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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1230 on: 02 January 2024, 12:42:25 »
I'd put my Kerensky's on the Wolves taking their Blood Legacies with them to Terra, they were all in, the facilities may have been left behind but noway they would leave the legacies to garrison troops and cadets

I'd guess that they'd have done something like the Nova Cats did with Kisho the legacies themselves must be in container like transports it would be cool if it was explained sometime how they are transported

They didn’t take the sibko’s, but they take the genetic vaults?

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« Reply #1231 on: 02 January 2024, 15:02:12 »
Clan Wolf could have survived if their touman had been defeated at Terra and could still survive losing it to the CCAF. The chips have been anted with the choice of the Empire's governing leadership. The Empire may not have the power to stop the League, but it could make moves to keep the Clan alive in a variety of directions.

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« Reply #1232 on: 02 January 2024, 16:42:17 »
That should be the only possibility though I expect that they have at least some repositories in their empire otherwise they could not "breed" new Trueborns. This would be a gap in their entire Clan they would need to bridge. Of course I am not sure if they also took examples of their Iron wombs with them or have to begin from scratch in the Terran system.

The physical structures can be replaced pretty easily it's common Clan tech even if the Wolves don't have the equipment the Foxes will trade it to them

They didn’t take the sibko’s, but they take the genetic vaults?

The Sibkos are dead weight they haven't proven themselves in battle and they are an unknown quantity - makes sense to leave them behind the genetic pool loses nothing

Those legacies are the past present and future of the Clan. They are everything that Nicholas Kerensky wanted for the Clans and the Wolves making it to Terra and becoming ilClan is the crowning achievement, if they are anywhere I think they'll be on McKenna's Pride during the battle then on Terra , no way Alaric sacrifices that on his way to a Terra IMO especially with no return since victory. He had the originals or he has copies

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1233 on: 02 January 2024, 17:45:13 »
The Sibkos are dead weight they haven't proven themselves in battle and they are an unknown quantity - makes sense to leave them behind the genetic pool loses nothing

Those legacies are the past present and future of the Clan. They are everything that Nicholas Kerensky wanted for the Clans and the Wolves making it to Terra and becoming ilClan is the crowning achievement, if they are anywhere I think they'll be on McKenna's Pride during the battle then on Terra , no way Alaric sacrifices that on his way to a Terra IMO especially with no return since victory. He had the originals or he has copies

I’m not being snarky, but this makes no sense.

The repository being on McKenna’s pride places huge risk that wolves lose everything if they lose a single ship. Remember that they brought suicide bombers and had no really way to know that RAF wouldn’t respond in kind. Moving the repositories or the sibkos before they secure Terra cripples any chance of wolf surviving if Alaric failed.

Moving those makes sense out of universe where we know wolf plot armor demands a victory, but the wolves weren’t supposed to know they’d do it for sure.

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« Reply #1234 on: 02 January 2024, 18:17:19 »
I’m not being snarky, but this makes no sense.

The repository being on McKenna’s pride places huge risk that wolves lose everything if they lose a single ship. Remember that they brought suicide bombers and had no really way to know that RAF wouldn’t respond in kind. Moving the repositories or the sibkos before they secure Terra cripples any chance of wolf surviving if Alaric failed.

Moving those makes sense out of universe where we know wolf plot armor demands a victory, but the wolves weren’t supposed to know they’d do it for sure.

There's an old story about a pirate captain who knew he needed to capture a ship, and to ensure his crew fought their hardest deliberately sunk his own ship as they boarded the other one, sometimes people really are willing to make a fight 100% "do or die"
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1235 on: 02 January 2024, 18:23:29 »
I’m not being snarky, but this makes no sense.

The repository being on McKenna’s pride places huge risk that wolves lose everything if they lose a single ship. Remember that they brought suicide bombers and had no really way to know that RAF wouldn’t respond in kind. Moving the repositories or the sibkos before they secure Terra cripples any chance of wolf surviving if Alaric failed.

Moving those makes sense out of universe where we know wolf plot armor demands a victory, but the wolves weren’t supposed to know they’d do it for sure.

DNA samples can be kept in more than one place

You just need some empty vials and an extra fridge



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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1236 on: 04 January 2024, 19:56:35 »
I'd guess that they'd have done something like the Nova Cats did with Kisho the legacies themselves must be in container like transports it would be cool if it was explained sometime how they are transported

Genetic information is just data.

The 2.9 billion base pairs of the haploid human genome correspond to a maximum of about 725 megabytes of data, since every base pair can be coded by 2 bits. Since individual genomes vary by less than 1% from each other, they can be losslessly compressed to roughly 4 megabytes.  Most portable USB drives could easily move any given clans entire genetic legacy.

Taking the mortal remaining, the gift takes, with them is largely symbolic, and also not something that would require a tremendous amount of space to move.

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1237 on: 04 January 2024, 20:04:33 »
Reading Shrapnel #15, apparently a group of Clan Jade Falcon warriors came to the Clan Protectorate after the Jade Falcon Civil War and asked to join, but got turned down.

Dang, wish the Spirit Cats had said yes, get a trinary or two of warriors for free.
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« Reply #1238 on: 05 January 2024, 05:49:32 »
Reading Shrapnel #15, apparently a group of Clan Jade Falcon warriors came to the Clan Protectorate after the Jade Falcon Civil War and asked to join, but got turned down.

Dang, wish the Spirit Cats had said yes, get a trinary or two of warriors for free.

Which story is that in #15 ?

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1239 on: 06 January 2024, 19:58:36 »
Which story is that in #15 ?

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1240 on: 06 January 2024, 21:58:20 »
Genetic information is just data.

The 2.9 billion base pairs of the haploid human genome correspond to a maximum of about 725 megabytes of data, since every base pair can be coded by 2 bits. Since individual genomes vary by less than 1% from each other, they can be losslessly compressed to roughly 4 megabytes.  Most portable USB drives could easily move any given clans entire genetic legacy.

Taking the mortal remaining, the gift takes, with them is largely symbolic, and also not something that would require a tremendous amount of space to move.

Thanks thinking about that it makes total sense for some reason I was thinking of the giftakes as the samples but they are scientists who knows what they get up to

Reading Shrapnel #15, apparently a group of Clan Jade Falcon warriors came to the Clan Protectorate after the Jade Falcon Civil War and asked to join, but got turned down.

Dang, wish the Spirit Cats had said yes, get a trinary or two of warriors for free.

That would have been interesting - seriously why not trial for them don't let them join just like that make them fight. I have to catch up with sharpnel
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1241 on: 07 January 2024, 06:55:33 »
It should be remembered that this was not long after Malvina took control of the clan.  The Falcons had a bit of a reputation for being insane from that point onward.

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1242 on: 07 January 2024, 12:17:19 »
It should be remembered that this was not long after Malvina took control of the clan.  The Falcons had a bit of a reputation for being insane from that point onward.

Plus they would have to consider how it would make them look with their neighbors.
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« Reply #1243 on: 07 January 2024, 13:28:23 »
True and I guess Malvina wouldn't have been against throwing a disposable WarShip at the Protectorate just to make a point about taking her warriors
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1244 on: 07 January 2024, 16:18:40 »
Reading Shrapnel #15, apparently a group of Clan Jade Falcon warriors came to the Clan Protectorate after the Jade Falcon Civil War and asked to join, but got turned down.

Dang, wish the Spirit Cats had said yes, get a trinary or two of warriors for free.

What happened to those Falcons after that?

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1245 on: 07 January 2024, 17:09:58 »
Many were killed repulsing attacks against Republic worlds with Jade Falcon enclaves.  The rest are founding members of the Strange Bedfellows mercenary unit.

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1246 on: 08 January 2024, 07:05:41 »
Just finished reading it.

Good read, who knows Jiyi may have use for them  :grin:

Hats off, loved this bit

"My fellow Jade Falcons, our Clan is now led by an abomination who not only kills conquered worlds, but our own enclaves. She has destroyed all of Hammarr to eliminate all opposition within the Clan. Many of us will be pruged instead of dying for the good of the Clan or the Founder's dreams for humanity. should you survive that, you will become her butchers, and your codex and Bloodheritage will be forever tainted by association with that malignancy. I am leaving Sudeten to chart another path to fulfill Kerensky's vision. All those who wish to go with me should board this ship now."

Perhaps this story has a prequel story (after leaving Sudeten)

On another note it would have been interesting if they did hold their enclaves or were accepted in The Protectorate and kept their namesake and legacy ? 

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1247 on: 12 January 2024, 03:12:50 »
Any guesses on the type of jumpship they escaped on ?

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« Reply #1248 on: 12 January 2024, 19:13:53 »
Any guesses on the type of jumpship they escaped on ?

If you're asking for speculation, I'd say it was either a Clan Scout or possibly an Invader.

I would actually go with the Invader.  It may be far larger than what they need, but Invaders seem very common in the Clan Toumans and easily in the reach of warriors who need to commandeer any transport immediately to get away from an insane leader like Malvina.
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