Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III

[Tyler Jorgensson]

Yeah I know the feeling. While the authors may not be working on any Kickstarter stuff, it seems like overall a bunch of things have been slowed in production while KS things are being worked on as well.

I mean… 7 million pledged…. A lot of stretch goals unlocked to now work on lol

[wantec]

I mean… 7 million pledged…. A lot of stretch goals unlocked to now work on lol

I totally get it, but I'm just anxious to get the rest of the story for that post ilClan Trial era. We don't really know what's going on with any of the 3 clans on Terra (Wolves, Falcons, Jaguars). We've only gotten a few bits and pieces of what's up with the Ravens and Capellans. Not to mention it felt like the Lyrans got skipped. Sure a few former-Lyrans got covered in Tamar Rising. And there were a few mentions in Empire Alone of the border region there, but it felt unfinished. The updates in ilClan only covered up to March 3151, where as the other 3 books cover up to June 3152.

Just more stuff I can't wait to see. I have lots of questions about the Terran Falcons, the Jaguars, and Ravens in this new era.

[JAMES_PRYDE]

Just more stuff I can't wait to see. I have lots of questions about the Terran Falcons, the Jaguars, and Ravens in this new era.

"Know your enemy"  8)

hahah, half way through "Elements of Treason: Honour", quick question, is it just that one book that is about you bad ass ponies 8), or are all three part of your stable talks. Or just little snippets of ilClans stuff all through and bits and pieces ?

[CJC070]

"Know your enemy"  8)

hahah, half way through "Elements of Treason: Honour", quick question, is it just that one book that is about you bad ass ponies 8), or are all three part of your stable talks. Or just little snippets of ilClans stuff all through and bits and pieces ?

Each Elements of Treason covers one of the major factions mentioned in Tamar Rising.  The three factions so far is the Vesper Marches, the (newly resurrected) Tamar Pact, and the Clan Hells Horses.  Question of Survival covers the Clan Jade Falcon and Ghost Bear Dominion before Operation Stampede.  We also have The Price of Duty and Mercenary’s Honor if you are a Grey Death Legion (resurrected faction) fan.

[Sjhernan3060]

Each Elements of Treason covers one of the major factions mentioned in Tamar Rising.  The three factions so far is the Vesper Marches, the (newly resurrected) Tamar Pact, and the Clan Hells Horses.  Question of Survival covers the Clan Jade Falcon and Ghost Bear Dominion before Operation Stampede.  We also have The Price of Duty and Mercenary’s Honor if you are a Grey Death Legion (resurrected faction) fan.

While I felt the new horses novel was so so I love the new focus on the horses. I also really like how it put over malvina has a truly abhorrent villain even in death

[truetanker]

Trothkin,

How goes your affairs?

Any news on your Trials and such?

Recently I got into a small campaign with two friends involving the Golden Age of Clans.

I Horse, one friend Bear and the other Wolf, his kid sister watched wanting to try out the green chicken. We let her play a Star vs. our Clusters.

Not fair, but hey she's six. Simple math and level 1 rules. We even let her attack when we had our backs turned. Any damages we got was played as if they magically appeared, like pre-existing conditions. Also when we fired back it was as if secondary or trinary attacks, representing harder to hit numbers.

She was free to attack anyone of us, as long as she had range and heat management, we said 0 heat was excellent choice.

TT

[DOC_Agren]

so TT did she score any neat hits?

and always have enjoyed the kids and weird tactics that they come up.  [jump on to lvl 4 hill, and then fire both the PPC and LRM10 from the griffin at Long range at my Clint, next thing I knew I was headless with a dead pilot.]

[truetanker]

She took a "Fatman" Atlas C, a TimberWolf Prime, two Griffin IIC and a pair of Bandit (IS) hovertanks, double As. We haven't given here infantry yet, but soon we'll see... More likely a Full Star so she can use them... 2 Points Jump PBI and three of BA.

Little things first...

But yeah, Conner, our Wolf Commander got an UAC/20:up his ass, that almost wasted him, she gleefully tried to hit him as much as possible... Kept running around and away from her...

I got some LRM damage earlier from her... She pouted when one of her Griffins died, but we told her the pilot was ok and you should rescue them with your tanks. If you ever seen a kid on Christmas, or remember that feeling, you'd know what I mean...

TT

[DOC_Agren]

Thumbs up
please keep us in the loop on her skill growth

[truetanker]

She hates losing FatMan... But loved the idea of Swarming.

Took out Conner's Timby with two Swarms of Toad! Needed eights and rolled ten and eleven.

Did a happy dance to celebrate the occasion.

Jenny is a ristar in Clan Pony Bear, she'll be ready for ToP to become a Star Captain soon. Her Codex is strong.

TT

[Tyler Jorgensson]

She hates losing FatMan... But loved the idea of Swarming.

Took out Conner's Timby with two Swarms of Toad! Needed eights and rolled ten and eleven.

Did a happy dance to celebrate the occasion.

Jenny is a ristar in Clan Pony Bear, she'll be ready for ToP to become a Star Captain soon. Her Codex is strong.

TT

Teaching her the combined Horse/ Bear ways of the mid 3070’s….. I’ll allow it. We need more Jake Kabrinski’s.

[truetanker]

Well she loves ponies and wears her Care Bear shirts everywhere...

TT

[Sjhernan3060]

She hates losing FatMan... But loved the idea of Swarming.

Took out Conner's Timby with two Swarms of Toad! Needed eights and rolled ten and eleven.

Did a happy dance to celebrate the occasion.

Jenny is a ristar in Clan Pony Bear, she'll be ready for ToP to become a Star Captain soon. Her Codex is strong.

TT

That’s really cute! Thanks for sharing

[Precentor Scorpio]

What would a Hells Horses Cluster look like in around 3055. 
Alpha - Two stars of omnis and one elemental  (10 omnis - 25 elementals)
Beta - Two stars of omnis and one elemental   (10 omnis - 25 elementals)
Gamma - three novas of omni-mechs and elementals  (15 omnis - 75 elementals)
Delta - Three aerospace stars
Epsilon - Three Vehicle Stars and three Conventional infantry - 30 vehicles - 15 points of infantry points (25 infantry/point)
Or would reduce Gamma and Epsilon from three novas to two novas?

Thank you

[Church14]

What would a Hells Horses Cluster look like in around 3055. 
Alpha - Two stars of omnis and one elemental  (10 omnis - 25 elementals)
Beta - Two stars of omnis and one elemental   (10 omnis - 25 elementals)
Gamma - three novas of omni-mechs and elementals  (15 omnis - 75 elementals)
Delta - Three aerospace stars
Epsilon - Three Vehicle Stars and three Conventional infantry - 30 vehicles - 15 points of infantry points (25 infantry/point)
Or would reduce Gamma and Epsilon from three novas to two novas?

Thank you

I would leave as is. Roughly 30 mechs, tanks, and ASF. Then about 15 points jump infantry and 15 BA looks right.

[truetanker]

I'd resolve that to have Alpha as a Binary w/ the Command Star a Nova.
Beta as the same, Binary w/ Command Nova Star.
Gamma as a Trinary w/ a Nova Command w/ a Binary of Omni
Delta being a Binary Aero.
Epsilon of vehicles : Binary w/ Command Nova w/ Binary of
PBI Infantry and an Artillery Nova w/ Fast Recon.

Specifically :

Alpha 10 Omni, 25 Elementals
Beta 10 Omni, 25 Elementals
Gamma 15 Omni, 25 Elementals
Delta 20 Aero
Epsilon 20 Vehicles, 10 Artillery, 10 Points Foot Infantry,  5 Points of Fast Recon

By having 10 Points of PBI in the Nova Command Star, which is weird, the Indra can deposit 250 troopers while making lightning strikes against the enemy.

I know... Fielded such a force, broke them down to Squad level..


Glorious Urban fight too...

TT

[Kojak]

Can't believe I never noticed this before...but has anyone else noticed that the Lola III-class Black Knight disappears between FMs 3085 and 3145?

[tassa_kay]

Can't believe I never noticed this before...but has anyone else noticed that the Lola III-class Black Knight disappears between FMs 3085 and 3145?

The Steel Shield also disappeared. I'm assuming they were lost in some conflict or another with their neighbors, or the Horses simply couldn't afford to maintain them (especially with Star's End not being an option after 3080, and HH-1 not necessarily having the ability to maintain WarShips that we know of).

[truetanker]

Ro-roh Raggy...

We're missing a Potemkin and a Lola III?

Lola III, I can see due to action, but a major asset like a Potemkin? Something major has happened.

It's, after all, a huge asset to transport twenty -five collars in a single jump. You know it'll have a major Aero escort and a dedicated Mech contingency assigned to it for Trials.

Last details I've found was Black Knight at Nouveaux Paris against the Adders and Steel Shield against the Ice Hellions in '72.

TT

[Kojak]

The Steel Shield also disappeared. I'm assuming they were lost in some conflict or another with their neighbors, or the Horses simply couldn't afford to maintain them (especially with Star's End not being an option after 3080, and HH-1 not necessarily having the ability to maintain WarShips that we know of).

Given the broader trend across the Clans of that era doing the same, I think it's a safe bet that the Steel Shield was traded to the Sea Foxes and is now one of their ArcShips.

[Kojak]

In fact, surveying the potential candidates, it seems there's only one: the Voidswimmer. I don't speak from any behind-the-scenes knowledge on this point, but I'd be willing to bet a whole lotta Sea-bills that the Steel Shield became the Voidswimmer.

[tassa_kay]

In fact, surveying the potential candidates, it seems there's only one: the Voidswimmer. I don't speak from any behind-the-scenes knowledge on this point, but I'd be willing to bet a whole lotta Sea-bills that the Steel Shield became the Voidswimmer.

It certainly makes sense; the Foxes have the infrastructure to maintain it, plus what did the Horses really need it for once they were settled in? That said, I'd be interested to know what the Horses got for it.

[truetanker]

Preferred status in future trades for X amount of time?

A one-time deal with no questions asked? We'll Transport anything for you, once.

TT

[CJC070]

They may have traded it for smaller jumpships.  I think several sourcebooks have alluded to the Hells Horses having a fairly significant jumpship fleet.

[Davion Loyalist]

I thought the loyalists here might enjoy knowing that I won the LVO Alpha Strike tournament with Clan Hell's Horses. All glory to combined arms and plasma cannons.

[Sjhernan3060]

I thought the loyalists here might enjoy knowing that I won the LVO Alpha Strike tournament with Clan Hell's Horses. All glory to combined arms and plasma cannons.

Congrats!!

[Davion Loyalist]

Thank you.

[truetanker]

Should edit your Avatar to say Ristar preceded by the award, naming the Unit under your picture.

So:

AS winner, CHH, Ristar

TT

[Davion Loyalist]

Here is my write up on the list/event if it is of interest:

https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/19dhavp/playing_with_fire_winning_with_clan_hells_horses/

[Nerroth]

Apologies if this has been discussed here already:

As shown on the MUL - and on the front cover of Interstellar Operations: Alternate Eras - Clan Sea Fox is one of the factions which has gained access to the Ares superheavy tripod (in its various configurations) in the wake of the ilClan Trial.

It's not entirely impossible that the Foxes might eventually consider selling samples of these superheavies to Clan Hell's Horses - for a price well bargained and done, of course.

So, the question would then be: is there a place for such a unit in the Horse touman? If so, where might that be?

Might it complement other technologies, such as for QuadVees, which the Horses have been working on by themselves? Or might the Ares be more difficult to fit within the Horse tactical doctrine (Mongol or otherwise) by comparison?