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Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« on: 23 October 2022, 11:06:41 »
While I've seen this discussed multiple times over the years, I haven't seen a formal write up (please point me to one if it's out there!).

The Saladin has the distinction of being Scarborough's "last medium hover tank", but that didn't mean they were done with the design in 2942 when it went into full rate production.  Less than ten years later, the company had a "self-propelled artillery" vehicle based on the same chassis.  The increased elevation required for the slightly heavier weapon necessitated an "exposed linkage" for the auto-loader, but given the intended mission profile, this was deemed acceptable.  The mission profile also drove the incorporation of a "fast reload" capability, despite the fact that even with two tons less ammunition, the Silah had five more rounds aboard than its progenitor.  The parts commonality with Scarborough's other offerings also made it essentially "ubiquitous".

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Silah

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-C-C-B
Production Year: 2951
Dry Cost: 686,375 C-Bills
Total Cost: 690,875 C-Bills
Battle Value: 265

Power Plant:  105 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Thumper
Manufacturer: Scarborough Limited
    Primary Factory: Al Na'ir
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Quirks:
Exposed Linkage (Thumper): -2
Rapid Reload: +1
Ubiquitous: +1

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      16 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                105                       7.00
    Cruise MP:  8
    Flank MP:   12
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     12       
                                          Left/Right   12/12       
                                                Rear     12       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Thumper                                      FR        6         1        15.00
@Thumper (20)                                BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 3
8h         2       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ARTT, EE

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #1 on: 23 October 2022, 11:33:44 »
Nice, logical continuation of the S family. (Almost too logical for the BT universe's whacky quartermaster departments  ;) ). Well applied quirks. I like it.
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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #2 on: 23 October 2022, 11:40:15 »
Thanks, glad you liked it!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #3 on: 23 October 2022, 11:40:33 »
One could almost omni-fy it, going down the list of comparable weight weapons to make arrow, snub Cannon, ultra and lbx type variants.  Its a fun exercise in a way.

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #4 on: 23 October 2022, 11:41:16 »
Don't forget the Gauss...  8)

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #5 on: 23 October 2022, 11:44:44 »
And a quick Google translate turns up "steel" is "Sulb" in Arabic...  ^-^

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #6 on: 23 October 2022, 13:05:06 »
Crazily enough, the Gauss version is cheaper than a Saladin!  :o
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Sulb

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/D-F-D-C
Production Year: 2951
Dry Cost: 877,625 C-Bills
Total Cost: 897,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 855

Power Plant:  105 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Scarborough Limited
    Primary Factory: Al Na'ir
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:
Quirks:

Exposed Linkage (Thumper): -2

Rapid Reload: +1

Ubiquitous: +1


================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      16 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                105                       7.00
    Cruise MP:  8
    Flank MP:   12
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     12       
                                          Left/Right   12/12       
                                                Rear     12       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                                  FR        1         1        15.00
@Gauss Rifle (8)                             BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 9
8h         1       2       2       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #7 on: 25 October 2022, 21:02:22 »
Probably due to multiple tons of ammo.

And I really like this,  a fast moving Thumper in the Intro Tech era is something the game needs actually.

Talk about area denial, that might be more annoying that my usual use of Precision Saladins as bodyguards.
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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #8 on: 26 October 2022, 03:10:25 »
Thanks Hellraiser, glad you like it!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #9 on: 27 October 2022, 17:11:59 »
Crazily enough, the Gauss version is cheaper than a Saladin!  :o
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Sulb

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/D-F-D-C
Production Year: 2951
Dry Cost: 877,625 C-Bills
Total Cost: 897,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 855

Power Plant:  105 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Scarborough Limited
    Primary Factory: Al Na'ir
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:
Quirks:
Exposed Linkage (Thumper): -2
Rapid Reload: +1
Ubiquitous: +1

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      16 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                105                       7.00
    Cruise MP:  8
    Flank MP:   12
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     12       
                                          Left/Right   12/12       
                                                Rear     12       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                                  FR        1         1        15.00
@Gauss Rifle (8)                             BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 9
8h         1       2       2       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE

This would be such a nasty raider.  8/12 Hover speed means rivers and lakes are just highways for these things, limited ammo means that the pilots know to not stick around, and 15 pts per shot means the standard anti-raider force will get nasty holes in them.  Total cost of less than a million means a planetary militia can have quite a few of these, and ammunition just needs a good metal shop to shape the rounds.  Your ammo handler crews don't have to worry either, as the ammo is not explosive.  Even if one of these gets tagged by a PPC, AC/10, or Large Laser, they can still get away instead of going boom.

A Savannah Master would look at this and smile

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Re: Silah (Saladin with a Thumper)
« Reply #10 on: 27 October 2022, 17:58:58 »
Thanks for the repost!  I forgot to remove the quirks, since they wouldn't necessarily apply (Ubiquitous might stick, but the other two really aren't necessary).