Spector Succession Wars Downgrade

[Daryk]

Being that the Exterminator received a Succession Wars version, I don't see why the Spector shouldn't have one too:

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Spector (SW) SPR-4S

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 3,272,760 C-Bills
Total Cost: 3,272,760 C-Bills
Battle Value: 855

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 245 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Medium Lasers
    1  Recon Camera
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      58 points                3.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                245                      12.00
    Walking MP: 7
    Running MP: 11
    Jumping MP: 7 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT                                   3.50
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 119                  7.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     11           17       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  5         
                                           L/R Torso     8            11       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  5         
                                             L/R Arm     6            12       
                                             L/R Leg     8            16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Medium Laser                                 RA        3         1         1.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
Recon Camera                                 HD        0         1         0.50
                                            Free Critical Slots: 36

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 9
7j         1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

[Failure16]

Nice. Reasonable, and always nice to see a SW-era Light that isn't either too tied to a specific faction (COM, VLK, PNT/JR7 etc.) or too single-minded/focused (UM, FS9). And the ReCam is always a nice addition. That has been officially retconned into 3SW availability, right?

[Daryk]

It's Pre-Spaceflight, but you need to use Experimental rules.

[Failure16]

It's Pre-Spaceflight, but you need to use Experimental rules.

Oh, I don't care about rules-levels, so to speak, only if something is allowed. For example, I'm totally down with downgraded SL (e.g. TRO3025R) types and Blazers. And Rocket Launchers, no matter what anybody says. I guess my litmus-test is: if nobody would have a reasonable argument about something's inclusion in a (say) 3014-era game, then it's available for me to use.

[Daryk]

The biggest benefit it gives is being able to spot and still shoot weapons, so I don't think it presents a game balance problem in 3025.

[Failure16]

The biggest benefit it gives is being able to spot and still shoot weapons, so I don't think it presents a game balance problem in 3025.

I do not worship at the altar of game balance, believing instead that certain things will gain prevalence based on their utility and other things will fall by the wayside. And some of those latter things will still see use because of a variety of factors.

You know, just like in the real world.

[Daryk]

Certainly!  It's just that game balance is the most common argument I've encountered when advocating for these kinds of things.

[Failure16]

Pfft. Amateurs.  ;D

[Daryk]

Heh... we're all amateurs when it comes to playing this game...  ^-^

[Giovanni Blasini]

What's a Spector without a large laser, though?

I took another page from the EXT-4A, and slowed it down a bit:

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Spector SPR-3A

Mass: 35 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 210 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 64.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 97.2 kph
Jump Jets: Standard
     Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     3 Small Laser
     1 Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3000
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-E(F)-D-D
Cost: 3,169,193 C-bills

Type: Spector
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 35
Battle Value: 850

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  3.5
Engine                        210 Fusion              9
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6
Double Heat Sink              10 [20]                 0
Gyro                                                  3
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor                  112                     7

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Head                    3         9     
     Center Torso            11        16   
     Center Torso (rear)               5     
     R/L Torso               8         11   
     R/L Torso (rear)                  4     
     R/L Arm                 6         11   
     R/L Leg                 8         15   


Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper Arm, Lower Arm, Hand

Weapons
and Ammo              Location  Critical   Heat    Tonnage
Heat Sink                LL        1        -       1.0   
Jump Jet                 LL        1        -       0.5   
2 Jump Jet               RT        2        -       1.0   
2 Small Laser            LA        2        1       1.0   
2 Jump Jet               LT        2        -       1.0   
Heat Sink                RL        1        -       1.0   
Jump Jet                 RL        1        -       0.5   
Small Laser              HD        1        1       0.5   
Large Laser              RA        2        8       5.0   

Features the following design quirks: Rugged (1 Point), Difficult to Maintain


[Daryk]

With DHS in the mix, why not a Medium and a Small instead of 3 Smalls? ???

[Giovanni Blasini]

With DHS in the mix, why not a Medium and a Small instead of 3 Smalls? ???

What the actual crap?  Those are supposed to be Single heat sinks, given my tech level was set at Introductory tech, and MegaMekLab let me put one single-crit standard heat sink and a jump jet in each leg.

I didn't bother saving the design, so I can't bring up the file anymore to take a look.  I'm guessing it got stupid when I downgraded the tech and changed year on the existing Spector with doubles, with weird flags flipped in different spots in memory.

[Daryk]

With only singles available, I went for two Mediums and no Large...  ???

[Giovanni Blasini]

With only singles available, I went for two Mediums and no Large...  ???

I was also willing to compromise on speed, the same way the EXT-4A version of the Exterminator did, and drop to 6/9/6, in order to preserve the large laser and heavy armor, whereas yours is still 7/11/7, preserving speed at the cost of firepower.

Both are valid interpretations: they're just preserving different aspects of the original's design when downgrading technology base.

[Daryk]

Uh... the bog-standard Exterminator is 6/9/6? ???

[Giovanni Blasini]

Uh... the bog-standard Exterminator is 6/9/6? ???

My dude.  The EXT-4A, the Succession Wars downgrade which inspired your 'Mech in the first place, drops the speed to 5/8/5, instead of the 6/9/6 of the original 4D (the NullSig/Chameleon -4C is also 6/9/6), because a 390-rating standard engine is 46 tons - a 6/9/6 Introtech Exterminator is 0.5 tons overweight before fitting armor, let alone weaponry.

[Daryk]

I figured speed was more important to a scout 'mech...  :)

[Argus1348]

I love this downgrading to Succession Wars era. One makes a good scout, the other a good scout hunter.

[Daryk]

Glad you like them... welcome to the board!  :thumbsup: