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Daryk

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #90 on: 10 June 2023, 11:29:24 »
Um... word wrap seems to have utterly failed...  :-\

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #91 on: 10 June 2023, 11:30:15 »
So, a Royal Voidseeker of sorts.  Neat.
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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #92 on: 10 June 2023, 12:29:50 »
Okay not sure how that happened but I made some snippity snips since the pre-existing fluff isn't really needed.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #93 on: 10 June 2023, 12:31:55 »
It's cleaner at least... sorry to have missed the fluff.  What does a BAP get an ASF again? ???

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #94 on: 10 June 2023, 12:37:50 »
Counteracts ECM modifiers if those optional rules are in play.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #95 on: 10 June 2023, 12:43:55 »
Ah... I thought you only got that by installing more ECM units and putting them in ECCM mode.  Thanks!  :thumbsup:

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #96 on: 30 June 2023, 20:09:06 »
Okay minor spoiler time.  I'm still deciding how many of the fleet get refit to this standard but Helena got a little tired of how often her AIs were at an ASF disadvantage so I'm absolutely going with she's calling in some war debt owed her in the form of goods.  Yeah I wanted to do more actual AMS but decided if that were as available as I'd like we would have seen it much more widely used so I compromised by adding a smattering of Small Lasers to beef up Point Defense.

Added Docking Collars to increase versatility.

A bit torn on yanking the NAC-20s.  I want the firepower so these things are still proper beatsticks when the occasion calls for it and to take advantage of high velocity closing engagement rules but I'd also like the cargo space to improve endurance and self storage of spares.  Keeping for now.

Capital Drone M-5.4 'Caspar'
Mass: 680,000 tons
Use: Capital Drone
Technology Base: Mixed (Experimental)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 680,000
Battle Value: 181,377
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-X
Cost: 17,758,587,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 628 meters

Fuel: 4,000 tons (10,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 15
Heat Sinks: 2500 (5000)
Structural Integrity: 50

Armor
    Nose: 96
    Fore Sides: 96/96
    Aft Sides: 96/96
    Aft: 94

Cargo
    Bay 1:  ARTS Small Craft (4)    2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  ARTS Fighter (18)       9 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (22031.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    60 rounds of AR10 Killer Whale ammunition (3,000 tons),
    720 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (60 tons),
    120 rounds of AR10 Barracuda ammunition (3,600 tons),
    20 rounds of Killer Whale ammunition (1,000 tons),
    1,200 rounds of NAC/20 ammunition (480 tons),
    40 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (1,200 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 2
Grav Decks: 0
Escape Pods: 20
Life Boats: 20
Crew:  42 officers, 161 enlisted/non-rated, 50 gunners, 20 bay personnel, 36 BA marines      

Notes: Equipped with
    1 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
    1 SDS (Caspar) Drone Control System (Improved)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
   680 tons of ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (874 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
2 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         450  30(300) 30(300) 30(300) 30(300)  Capital PPC
1 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)   20   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (20 shots)
4 Small Laser                                4   1(12)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
FRS/FLS (432 Heat)
2 Naval Laser 55                            170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
1 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  20   2(20)   2(20)   2(20)    2(20)   AR10       
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (20 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
RBS/LBS (132 Heat)
1 Naval Laser 55                            85   6(55)   6(55)   6(55)    6(55)   Capital Laser
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (20 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 Small Laser                                5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
ARS/ALS (412 Heat)
2 Naval Laser 55                            170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
Aft (424 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
2 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)      20   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)
4 Small Laser                                4   1(12)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #97 on: 30 June 2023, 20:17:33 »
And of course the Command variant.

Capital Drone M-5.4C 'Caspar'
Mass: 680,000 tons
Use: Capital Drone
Technology Base: Mixed (Experimental)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 680,000
Battle Value: 181,377
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-X
Cost: 19,258,587,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 628 meters

Fuel: 4,000 tons (10,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 15
Heat Sinks: 2500 (5000)
Structural Integrity: 50

Armor
    Nose: 96
    Fore Sides: 96/96
    Aft Sides: 96/96
    Aft: 94

Cargo
    Bay 1:  ARTS Small Craft (4)    2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  ARTS Fighter (18)       9 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (28131.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    60 rounds of AR10 Killer Whale ammunition (3,000 tons),
    720 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (60 tons),
    120 rounds of AR10 Barracuda ammunition (3,600 tons),
    20 rounds of Killer Whale ammunition (1,000 tons),
    1,200 rounds of NAC/20 ammunition (480 tons),
    40 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (1,200 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 2
Grav Decks: 0
Escape Pods: 20
Life Boats: 20
Crew:  42 officers, 161 enlisted/non-rated, 50 gunners, 20 bay personnel, 36 BA marines      

Notes: Equipped with
    1 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
    1 SDS (Caspar) Drone Control System
    1 Autonomous Tactical Analysis Computer (ATAC) (50 drones)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
   680 tons of ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (874 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
2 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         450  30(300) 30(300) 30(300) 30(300)  Capital PPC
1 Capital Missile Launcher (Killer Whale)   20   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   Capital Missile
    Killer Whale Ammo (20 shots)
4 Small Laser                                4   1(12)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
FRS/FLS (432 Heat)
2 Naval Laser 55                            170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
1 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  20   2(20)   2(20)   2(20)    2(20)   AR10       
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (20 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (10 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
RBS/LBS (132 Heat)
1 Naval Laser 55                            85   6(55)   6(55)   6(55)    6(55)   Capital Laser
2 Capital Missile Launcher (AR10 Launcher)  40   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   AR10       
    AR10 Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)
    AR10 Killer Whale Ammo (20 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 Small Laser                                5   2(15)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
ARS/ALS (412 Heat)
2 Naval Laser 55                            170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                 180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (300 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                        2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (120 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
Aft (424 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
2 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)      20   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)
4 Small Laser                                4   1(12)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
5 ER Large Laser                            60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
   


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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #98 on: 30 June 2023, 20:41:30 »
Aren't Laser AMSs available by now? ???

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #99 on: 30 June 2023, 21:02:42 »
Technically yes.

Helena's budget is not infinite though and she's probably not going to be able to get her entire fleet to this standard but it will be what she is working towards.

Speaking of another standard she is going to work towards because my count is despite the loss of Betty Laffey at least one Essex II is going to wind up in Helena's hands.  So she's going to see about making it look like this:

Essex II Destroyer L-5 'Caspar'
Mass: 620,000 tons
Use: Destroyer
Technology Base: Mixed (Experimental)
Introduced: 3084
Mass: 620,000
Battle Value: 87,275
Tech Rating/Availability: F/X-X-X-X
Cost: 16,906,932,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 615 m

Fuel: 6,000 tons (15,000)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 5
KF Drive Integrity: 14
Heat Sinks: 2500 (5000)
Structural Integrity: 60

Armor
    Nose: 108
    Fore Sides: 104/104
    Aft Sides: 104/104
    Aft: 107

Cargo
    Bay 1:  ARTS Fighter (36)       12 Doors 
    Bay 2:  Small Craft (4)         2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (41687.0 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    1,080 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (130 tons),
    240 rounds of NAC/20 ammunition (96 tons),
    30 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (900 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 2
Grav Decks: 1 (55 m)
Escape Pods: 16
Life Boats: 16
Crew:  40 officers, 151 enlisted/non-rated, 40 gunners, 20 bay personnel, 20 marines      

Notes: Equipped with
    1 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
    1 SDS (Caspar) Drone Control System (Improved)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
   744 tons of ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                       Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                 Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (186 Heat)
2 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                120  40(400) 40(400) 40(400)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (40 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                           60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
6 Small Laser                               6   2(18)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
FRS/FLS (872 Heat)
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (60 shots)
1 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)     10   2(20)   2(20)   2(20)    2(20)   Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
2 Anti-Missile System                       2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (180 shots)
2 Naval Laser 55                           170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
2 Naval PPC (Heavy)                        450  30(300) 30(300) 30(300) 30(300)  Capital PPC
5 ER Large Laser                           60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
RBS/LBS (8 Heat)
2 Anti-Missile System                       2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (180 shots)
6 Small Laser                               6   2(18)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
ARS/ALS (682 Heat)
2 Naval Laser 55                           170  11(110) 11(110) 11(110) 11(110)  Capital Laser
2 Naval PPC (Heavy)                        450  30(300) 30(300) 30(300) 30(300)  Capital PPC
2 Anti-Missile System                       2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (180 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                           60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
Aft (316 Heat)
3 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                180  60(600) 60(600) 60(600)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (40 shots)
1 Naval Autocannon (NAC/20)                60   20(200) 20(200) 20(200)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/20 Ammo (40 shots)
1 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)     10   2(20)   2(20)   2(20)    2(20)   Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (10 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                           60   5(50)   5(50)   5(50)    5(50)   Laser       
6 Small Laser                               6   2(18)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #100 on: 01 July 2023, 04:13:25 »
In the long run, Laser AMS will be cheaper than the ammunition devouring kind.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #101 on: 01 July 2023, 19:33:07 »
If the better version is not readily available(which I take it as not being as no one uses it) don't much matter.

But in an effort to standardize her fleet Helena does know someone who has an active Warship production industry she can call upon...

Pinto Corvette Hazard
Mass: 160,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3145
Mass: 160,000
Battle Value: 16,759
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-F
Cost: 5,001,930,000 C-bills

Fuel: 5,000 tons (25,000)
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Sail Integrity: 3
KF Drive Integrity: 5
Heat Sinks: 800 (1600)
Structural Integrity: 29

Armor
    Nose: 21
    Fore Sides: 18/18
    Aft Sides: 18/18
    Aft: 17

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (2)         1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Fighter (12)            2 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (11012.5 tons)    1 Door   

Ammunition:
    120 rounds of NAC/10 ammunition (24 tons),
    7,200 rounds of Machine Gun ammunition (36 tons),
    200 rounds of AC/20 ammunition (40 tons),
    120 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (3,600 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 1
Grav Decks: 1 (45 m)
Escape Pods: 10
Life Boats: 10
Crew:  25 officers, 68 enlisted/non-rated, 38 gunners, 34 bay personnel, 28 marines      

Notes: Mounts 92.5 tons of ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                    Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                              Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (300 Heat)
2 Naval PPC (Light)                     210  14(140) 14(140) 14(140)   0(0)   Capital PPC
10 Medium Laser                         90   9(90)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Laser       
    5 ER Large Laser
FRS/FLS (64 Heat)
1 Naval Laser 35                        52   4(35)   4(35)   4(35)     0(0)   Capital Laser
20 Machine Gun                          12   8(76)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
    12 Small Laser
    Machine Gun Ammo (1800 shots)
RBS/LBS (104 Heat)
1 Naval Autocannon (NAC/10)             30   10(100) 10(100) 10(100)   0(0)   Capital AC 
    NAC/10 Ammo (60 shots)
2 AC/20                                 14   4(40)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AC         
    AC/20 Ammo (100 shots)
5 ER Large Laser                        60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)     0(0)   Laser       
ARS/ALS (32 Heat)
2 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)  20   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    4(40)   Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (60 shots)
20 Machine Gun                          12   8(76)    0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   Point Defense
    12 Small Laser
    Machine Gun Ammo (1800 shots)
Aft (52 Heat)
1 Naval Laser 35                        52   4(35)   4(35)   4(35)     0(0)   Capital Laser
   


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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #102 on: 01 July 2023, 19:41:25 »
I did NOT expect Machine Guns!  :o

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #103 on: 01 July 2023, 20:10:56 »
I did NOT expect Machine Guns!  :o

That's the stock point defense array of the Pinto. All in all looks like a fairly mild update.
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #104 on: 01 July 2023, 20:26:44 »
That's the stock point defense array of the Pinto. All in all looks like a fairly mild update.

Which is kind of the point, though I may actually cut back on some of those just to cut back on fire control, and break them into more bays so they are actually more effective.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #105 on: 01 July 2023, 22:49:06 »
Which is kind of the point, though I may actually cut back on some of those just to cut back on fire control, and break them into more bays so they are actually more effective.

To cheat on Fire control, put your Capital weapons into Fore-left, Fore-right, Aft-left, and Aft-right arcs and your non-capital weapons into Nose, Left Broadside, Right Broadside, and Aft arcs.  Your main concern is that the Nose and Aft arcs have to cover 120 degrees each, while the Broadside arcs only have to cover 60 degrees each.

The N/LBS/RBS/A arcs allow for 360 coverage vs ASF, while the Nose L/R and Aft L/R allow decent coverage by capital weapons.  Each of these arcs covers 120 degrees, meaning the Broadside arcs are the only ones that have coverage from the Nose and Aft arcs of that side.

If you have additional room you might toss extra weapons into the Capital arcs, but try to avoid going over 20 weapons in your Capital weapon arcs.  If you have to go over 20 weapons, make sure to put as many of your smaller weapons in the other arcs as possible to reduce the Fire Control tonnage penalty.

Fire Control Tonnage penalty is if there are too many weapons in that arc you take the number of weapons in that arc over the limit, divide it by the limit, multiply that by .1, multiply that by the mass of all the weapons in that arc (not ammunition), and round that final result up to the nearest half ton.

So if you have 20 HNGauss in that arc then the total mass of the weapons is 140,000 tons (ammunition is not counted) and there are only 20 weapons so the Fire Control limit is not exceeded.  But adding a single Machine gun brings you up to 21 weapons for a total mass of 140,000.5 tons.  As 21 is over 20, you have to do the math.  21-20 = 1, divided by 20 is .05.  You then multiply .05 by .1, giving .005.  You then multiply that by 140,000.5, giving 700.0025.  This is rounded up to the nearest half ton, resulting in 700.5 tons of Fire Control equipment needed.

Adding a second Machine Gun changes the math to: 140,001 tons @ 22 weapons, 22-20 = 2, 2/20 = .1, .1*.1 = .01, .01*140,001 = 1400.01, 1400.01 -> 1400.5 tons of Fire Control Tonnage.  All because you wanted to add two more Machine Guns to that arc.

You see why you want to keep the number of weapons below 20 where possible.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #106 on: 01 July 2023, 22:56:30 »
Yes, yes.  I know all this.  It's actually something of a complaint I have about the construction system and how it impacts the actual game when minis and dice meet mapsheet and recordsheet.

But I want to keep it a very straight forward refit to cut down on time and cost to do.  So the most I'm willing to do is cut out some Machine Guns and break the point defenses up into more bays so I can get more cargo capacity.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #107 on: 02 July 2023, 02:34:18 »
Aren't proper AMS excluded from fire control requirements? ???

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #108 on: 02 July 2023, 07:29:51 »
Nope.  They are excluded from Gunner requirements.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #109 on: 02 July 2023, 08:56:11 »
Ah, thanks... I knew there was something they were free from...

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #110 on: 06 September 2023, 21:00:07 »
And because Helena will need human piloted ASF in her forces:

Starseeker Mk 39-007 HMMF

Mass: 75 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant: 300 XL
Armor: Ferro-Aluminum
Armament:
     2 Anti-Missile System
     5 Medium Pulse Laser
     2 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: Ulsop Robotics
     Primary Factory: Terra
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3137
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-D
Cost: 11,692,656 C-bills

Type: Starseeker
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 75
Battle Value: 1,777

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                        300 XL                9.5
   Safe Thrust: 6
   Max Thrust: 9
Structural Integrity:         7                       
Heat Sinks:                   22 [44]                12
Fuel:                         800                  10.0
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          259                  14.5

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    81   
     Wings                 62/62   
     Aft                     54   


Weapons
and Ammo                        Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
2 Anti-Missile System             NOS       1.0      1      3    0    0    0 
2 ER Large Laser                  NOS       10.0     12     8    8    8    0 
2 Medium Pulse Laser              RWG       4.0      4      6    0    0    0 
Anti-Missile System Ammo (24)     FSLG      2.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Active Probe                      FSLG      1.5      -      -    -    -    - 
ECM Suite                         FSLG      1.5      -      -    -    -    - 
2 Medium Pulse Laser              LWG       4.0      4      6    0    0    0 
Medium Pulse Laser                AFT       2.0      4      6    0    0    0 
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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #111 on: 06 September 2023, 21:08:22 »
And for situations where you need sheer speed...

Sparrowhawk SPR-6DbH

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant: 300 XL
Armor: Ferro-Aluminum
Armament:
     1 Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3137
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-D
Cost: 4,320,205 C-bills

Type: Sparrowhawk
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 568

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                        300 XL                9.5
   Safe Thrust: 12
   Max Thrust: 18
Structural Integrity:         10                       
Heat Sinks:                   10                      0
Fuel:                         560                   7.0
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (Ferro)          134                   7.5

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    47   
     Wings                 25/25   
     Aft                     37   


Weapons
and Ammo              Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
Medium Laser            NOS       1.0      3      5    0    0    0 
Active Probe            NOS       1.5      -      -    -    -    - 
Recon Camera            NOS       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #112 on: 06 September 2023, 22:02:48 »
And she'll need a way to get her forces to the ground:

Arsenal Combined Arms
Type: Military Spheriod
Mass: 50,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 3137
Mass: 50,000
Battle Value: 25,002
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 3,348,184,000 C-bills

Fuel: 3,000 tons (30,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Heat Sinks: 311 (622)
Structural Integrity: 180

Armor
    Nose: 1651
    Sides: 1651/1651
    Aft: 1573

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Fighter (12)            2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  Mech (12)               1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Light Vehicle (12)      1 Door   
    Bay 4:  Heavy Vehicle (24)      2 Doors   
    Bay 5:  Infantry (Foot) (50)    1 Door   
    Bay 6:  Cargo (3768.0 tons)     1 Door   

Ammunition:
    240 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (20 tons),
    80 rounds of Long Tom ammunition (16 tons),
    144 rounds of LRM 20 Artemis-capable ammunition (24 tons)

Escape Pods: 44
Life Boats: 44
Crew:  6 officers, 14 enlisted/non-rated, 9 gunners, 580 bay personnel, 20 BA marines      

Notes: Mounts 648 tons of ferro-aluminum armor.

Weapons:                                      Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV     ERV   Class       
Nose (154 Heat)
4 Long Tom                                80    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  Artillery   
    Long Tom Ammo (80 shots)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)
RS/LS Fwd (74 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
RS/LS Aft (74 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
Aft (74 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)
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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #113 on: 06 September 2023, 22:15:23 »
And a pure gunship, yeah it could use more thrust but what the hell to keep it in line with the transport:

Arsenal Gunship
Type: Military Spheriod
Mass: 50,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Introduced: 3137
Mass: 50,000
Battle Value: 30,499
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 3,316,432,000 C-bills

Fuel: 3,000 tons (30,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Heat Sinks: 311 (622)
Structural Integrity: 180

Armor
    Nose: 1651
    Sides: 1651/1651
    Aft: 1573

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (4)         1 Door   
    Bay 2:  BattleArmor (Clan) (4)  1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (7023.0 tons)     1 Door   

Ammunition:
    240 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (20 tons),
    80 rounds of Barracuda ammunition (2,400 tons),
    144 rounds of LRM 20 Artemis-capable ammunition (24 tons)

Escape Pods: 20
Life Boats: 20
Crew:  10 officers, 10 enlisted/non-rated, 30 gunners, 44 bay personnel, 20 BA marines      

Notes: Mounts 648 tons of ferro-aluminum armor.

Weapons:                                      Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV     ERV   Class       
Nose (114 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)
4 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)    40   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)  Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)
RS/LS Fwd (170 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1                    96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  Sub-Capital Laser
RS/LS Aft (170 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1                    96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  Sub-Capital Laser
Aft (114 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)
4 Capital Missile Launcher (Barracuda)    40   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)   8(80)  Capital Missile
    Barracuda Ammo (40 shots)

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #114 on: 06 September 2023, 22:23:37 »
And I might call that Gunship a short lived prototype/experimental version that was quickly replaced by this version because what's better than capital missiles?  Missiles you get back(better known as ASF)!

Arsenal Carrier
Type: Military Spheriod
Mass: 50,000 tons
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Introduced: 3137
Mass: 50,000
Battle Value: 25,184
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-E
Cost: 3,311,084,000 C-bills

Fuel: 3,000 tons (30,000)
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Heat Sinks: 311 (622)
Structural Integrity: 180

Armor
    Nose: 1651
    Sides: 1651/1651
    Aft: 1573

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Small Craft (4)         2 Doors   
    Bay 2:  BattleArmor (Clan) (4)  1 Door   
    Bay 3:  Fighter (18)            4 Doors   
    Bay 4:  Cargo (7443.0 tons)     1 Door   

Ammunition:
    240 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (20 tons),
    144 rounds of LRM 20 Artemis-capable ammunition (24 tons)

Escape Pods: 20
Life Boats: 20
Crew:  10 officers, 10 enlisted/non-rated, 30 gunners, 80 bay personnel, 20 BA marines      

Notes: Mounts 648 tons of ferro-aluminum armor.

Weapons:                                      Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV     ERV   Class       
Nose (74 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)
RS/LS Fwd (170 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1                    96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  Sub-Capital Laser
RS/LS Aft (170 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (48 shots)
4 Sub-Capital Laser /1                    96   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  Sub-Capital Laser
Aft (74 Heat)
2 LRM 20+Artemis IV                       12   2(24)   2(24)   2(24)    0(0)  LRM         
    LRM 20 Artemis-capable Ammo (24 shots)
4 ER PPC                                  60   4(40)   4(40)   4(40)    0(0)  PPC         
2 Anti-Missile System                      2    1(6)    0(0)    0(0)    0(0)  AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (24 shots)

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #115 on: 19 September 2023, 13:44:57 »
I take it you were using MegaMek to make these dropships?
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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #116 on: 19 September 2023, 14:06:29 »
Yes.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #117 on: 19 September 2023, 16:44:43 »
Yikes, I've never seen dropships outsider boo boos done with Heavy Metal Aero, get their armors in 4 digit mark.   :smilie_party_cheers:
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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #118 on: 19 September 2023, 16:59:08 »
There are actually a couple published Dropships that either get close or outright do so.  Castrum is 1500 or so per facing.

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Re: A New Weapon of War
« Reply #119 on: 19 September 2023, 17:23:44 »
Just say "no" to thresholds... yeesh! ;D