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Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« on: 29 October 2011, 20:40:37 »
So, with O:FS out, we have a better idea of what the AFFS fields apres le Jihad. Exciting! I know. I agree! So suppose you're fielding a company from...say...the Federated Suns Lancers. What would you put in it?
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #1 on: 30 October 2011, 02:08:38 »
I'd like to say a mix of the Omnis they now build, just so I could also add a company of Cavaliers and Infiltrator Mk IIs for Mech BA tactics.

Ignoring the all-Omni option, my choice would be two each of Falconers, Black Hawk-KUs, Dervish, Enforcer IIIs, Sentrys, and Valkyries, just so that there's a mix and that everything is moving at 5/8/5.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #2 on: 30 October 2011, 02:23:14 »
Since the 'Mechs would be flanking or supporting the assault armor, they're probably Thunderbolts, Valiants and other AFFS cavalry designs supporting a core of Challengers/Glorys/Ajax, with Longbows and Pendragons putting out missiles at the rear.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #3 on: 30 October 2011, 02:31:49 »
Are you only wanting to use FS-built mechs or are designs from friendly nations also on the table?


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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #4 on: 30 October 2011, 02:38:50 »
If imports are included, off the top of my head, the Shockwave, Dasher II, Mad Cat III and Talon fits nicely for the 'Mech category.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #5 on: 30 October 2011, 12:04:19 »
Are you only wanting to use FS-built mechs or are designs from friendly nations also on the table?

We don't really know what the allied powers build until we get O:LC and some sort of Objectives: RoTS.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #6 on: 30 October 2011, 13:09:48 »
I'd operate with something along the lines of this.  It's blatantly heavy, but still very cavalry.
I would personally use more paired combos, two Thanatos and two Warhammer 9D for example.
However in the interests of being a touch more...balanced here we go.

I couldn't help slot a Rifleman IIC8 into the mix, we've access to it so why not.  Whereas everything
else is a unit manufactured in the Federated Suns currently.

Command Lance
Falconer
Thanatos
Argus 2D
Argus 2D

Battle Lance
Enforcer III
Legionnaire
Centurion
Javelin

Fire Lance
Warhammer 9D
Rifleman IIC 8
Ostsol 8D
Dervish 8D/9D




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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2011, 13:46:40 »
We don't really know what the allied powers build until we get O:LC and some sort of Objectives: RoTS.

Well, anything from 3075 or especially 3085 is fair game.


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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2011, 14:20:02 »
I'd operate with something along the lines of this.  It's blatantly heavy, but still very cavalry.
I would personally use more paired combos, two Thanatos and two Warhammer 9D for example.
However in the interests of being a touch more...balanced here we go.

I couldn't help slot a Rifleman IIC8 into the mix, we've access to it so why not.  Whereas everything
else is a unit manufactured in the Federated Suns currently.

Command Lance
Falconer
Thanatos
Argus 2D
Argus 2D

Battle Lance
Enforcer III
Legionnaire
Centurion
Javelin

Fire Lance
Warhammer 9D
Rifleman IIC 8
Ostsol 8D
Dervish 8D/9D

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2011, 18:24:19 »
Here's my FedSuns 'Mech company, from the 1st FedSuns Lancers.

Command Lance
Avatar AV1-OC
Victor VTR-11D
Warlord BLR-2Dr
Enforcer III ENF-6NAIS

Striker Lance
Warhammer WHM-9D
Argus AGS-2D
Ostsol OTL-6D
Black Hawk-KU BHKU-OE

Force Recon Lance
Centurion CN9-D9
Legionnaire LGN-2F
Legionnaire LGN-2F
Fireball ALM-10D

EDIT: Fine, rain on my parade.  ;)
« Last Edit: 31 October 2011, 13:20:26 by Kojak »


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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2011, 18:57:16 »
PENALTY! TWENTY METERS! Few Gunslingers in the AFFS post-Jihad.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #11 on: 31 October 2011, 07:45:10 »
I'd include also some Jihad survivors, nearly every mech produced by the Fedsuns is a fair bet.
Of course, the 'survivors' should be limited to one mech per company.

Otherwise?
Depends on the profile and weight class of the company.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #12 on: 31 October 2011, 08:53:27 »
PENALTY! TWENTY METERS! Few Gunslingers in the AFFS post-Jihad.

Considering the 1st Kestrel Grenadiers were hardly touched by the Jihad (90% strength, still listed as reinforced regiment) or the FCCW, I'd see them having less new equipment and more "obsolete" compared to the AFFS as a whole.   They may still have some Salamanders from FM:FS's mention of a "full company of Longbows and Salamanders" for example, though I would not claim the Salamanders as numerous in the AFFS overall.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #13 on: 31 October 2011, 08:59:14 »
Considering the 1st Kestrel Grenadiers were hardly touched by the Jihad ...

So suppose you're fielding a company from...say...the Federated Suns Lancers.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #14 on: 31 October 2011, 09:11:41 »

But the point in general is still apt, the AFFS is not rebuilding from scratch.  Using only current production is unlikely in any AFFS regiment, though I will agree the 1stFSL would be more toward current production (having been "nearly destroyed" and then reduced to LCT) than the 1st Kestrel.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2011, 13:15:05 »
Well with my selection i opted to do something a touch different than my normal taste, and
also to highlight mechs currently produced based on O:FS.  But of course, it's likely that there
would be decent numbers of perennial favourites too.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #16 on: 31 October 2011, 13:21:34 »
Whoops, I got so caught up in the fun of building a FedSuns company I forgot I was building it for the Lancers. The post has been edited accordingly. My bad.


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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #17 on: 31 October 2011, 14:29:25 »
Ok so 42nd Avalon Hussars, for a different tack on things.

Command Lance
Black Knight BL12
Guillotine 8D
Warhammer 8D
Warlord

Support Lance
Battleaxe 8D
Argus 2D
Dervish 9D
Longbow 13C

Fire Lance
Avatar OF
Blackjack BJ4
Hammerhands 6D
Enforcer III 6T

The support lance was a little experiment in packing a decent selection of missile capable mechs together.

I admit i'll have a play about later at some point and see what i can do regards C3 Lances, seeing as there
are decent options in this time frame and soon after. 
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #18 on: 31 October 2011, 14:41:40 »
Nice.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #19 on: 31 October 2011, 15:41:38 »
I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the Argus 2D.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #20 on: 31 October 2011, 15:50:54 »
I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the Argus 2D.

It's a great 'Mech, a little lighter on the armor than I like but very solid as a fire-support unit for a heavy cav lance.


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« Reply #21 on: 31 October 2011, 15:52:30 »
I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the Argus 2D.

Most people don't? It's an outstanding fire-support design.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #22 on: 31 October 2011, 16:17:26 »
Well despite our factions long affection for the autocannon, i happen to think that
a reasonable level of missile support is wise.  Hence my choice of the 2D and it's
lance mates there.  Tbh i always found the Argus 4D to be a little too muddled in
it's loadout.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #23 on: 31 October 2011, 16:20:50 »
Well despite our factions long affection for the autocannon, i happen to think that
a reasonable level of missile support is wise.  Hence my choice of the 2D and it's
lance mates there.  Tbh i always found the Argus 4D to be a little too muddled in
it's loadout.

Yeah, that LRM rack really queers the pitch, IMO.
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« Reply #24 on: 31 October 2011, 16:45:45 »
Yeah, that LRM rack really queers the pitch, IMO.

A problem which the AGS-8DX Argus solves perfectly with it's MML-7, if you ask me.   {>{>  Yep, I'm a fan.

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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #25 on: 31 October 2011, 20:59:31 »
I have issues enough forming a regular c3 lance to my liking, let alone a boosted one.

No doubt this will change with future published mechs etc, but right now i'd probably
find the choices limiting with my idiosyncratic way of selecting lances.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #26 on: 31 October 2011, 21:09:38 »
The only C3 Boosted Master the FedSuns has available to them is the Gunslinger IIRC. When the C3 boosted units got published it seemed like they had a lance of mechs for the FedSuns and one for the Draconis Combine.

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« Reply #27 on: 31 October 2011, 23:22:58 »
I have issues enough forming a regular c3 lance to my liking, let alone a boosted one.

No doubt this will change with future published mechs etc, but right now i'd probably
find the choices limiting with my idiosyncratic way of selecting lances.

It's easy enough to strip out and replace with other equipment, or just ignore.  How many 'Mechs have had a ton and a half effectively wasted on Beagle in the past?  Doesn't really hurt the design, in my opinion.

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« Reply #28 on: 04 November 2011, 22:50:18 »
I'm looking forward to designing some Cavalry C3 Lances now that the Fennec is available. Maybe making a combined arms C3 company with two Fennec led Lances backed by an armor lance with a C3 Master Company Tank.

Now I might be biased on liking the Fen, I'll admit.

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« Reply #29 on: 05 November 2011, 06:33:44 »
If that is one of your creations, then you sir have my thanks.

Now about those Stealth, Jagermech, Nightstar and Templar factory lines eh?  ;)
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« Reply #30 on: 05 November 2011, 15:04:51 »
You forgot the Penetrator Rorke :P

If the Fennec was your design Welshman then my hat off to you. But what I really love about that mech is the artwork Chris Lewis provided. It is a very sleek looking mech and the leg being lifted up really helps it look like a mobile design.

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« Reply #31 on: 05 November 2011, 20:52:56 »
Oh i didn't forget it, i forget nothing i am told  ;)

It's in the second tranche of the want back list, along with the Cestus and Maelstrom.
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« Reply #32 on: 05 November 2011, 22:53:36 »
You forgot the Penetrator Rorke :P

If the Fennec was your design Welshman then my hat off to you. But what I really love about that mech is the artwork Chris Lewis provided. It is a very sleek looking mech and the leg being lifted up really helps it look like a mobile design.

It literally was such cool art that we designed a 'Mech for it. It can be a lot of fun to be handed art and told "stat that." The most fun was the Tonbo, but the Fennec was enjoyable.

I've still not had a chance to play it in a game, but all in due time.
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Re: Post-Objectives: Federated Suns AFFS 'mech companies
« Reply #33 on: 06 November 2011, 11:38:36 »
Alrighty then for the sakes of fun.

Fed Suns C3 Company

Command Lance
Fennec C3M
Warhammer 8D
Warhammer 8D
Stealth STH-2D1

Fire Lance
Avatar AV1-C
Blackjack    BJ2-OB
Rifleman RFL-6D
BattleAxe BKX-8D

Assault Lance
Gunslinger GUN-2ERDr
Thanatos
Longbow LGB13-NAIS
Victor VTR-11D


Ok two admissions in making this, it looks nothing like what i'd normally consider fielding being the first.  I
prefer to operate with as many pairs of the same chassis as i can.  But for the sakes of it being a touch more
generic, or a better example if you will...there we are.

Oh and the second being that in keeping with that i had to throw in a couple of older chassis.  Otherwise i'd have
had three Fennecs or Avatar C3Ms.  Besides you would not expect every single mech to fall by the wayside, now would
you? 

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