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Field Manual: 3145
« on: 10 September 2013, 16:18:56 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Field Manual 3145.

Product Link: http://bg.battletech.com/?wpsc-product=field-manual-3145

There is no compiled errata for this product at this time.

Please remember to follow the errata report template when reporting issues.  Thanks.
« Last Edit: 02 July 2015, 11:14:39 by Xotl »

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Re: Field Manual 3145
« Reply #1 on: 10 September 2013, 16:49:55 »
PDF

Rules Annex, pg. 245

"Game Rules: TSEMP weapons are only effective against targets weighing more than 200 tons and cannot be effectively used against conventional infantry at all."
This contradicts the TSEMP chart on the previous page, which reads that targets of 200 tons or more are unaffected by TSEMP.
Should probably be changed to:
"Game Rules: TSEMP weapons are only effective against targets weighing no more than 200 tons and cannot be effectively used against conventional infantry at all.


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Re: Field Manual 3145
« Reply #2 on: 10 September 2013, 17:33:43 »
PDF, page 54, 5th Galedon fluff:
"Even in those cases, though, the honor and nobility of these pilots, samurais all, was beyond reproach."

"Samurai" would be the correct plural noun.

PDF, page 54, 5th Galedon fluff:
"The two wing commanders, Sho-sa Mariano Ramirez and Dai-i Ichiro Sato, have both turned down opportunities to join the Second Sword of Light’s wing."
PDF page 62, 1st Amphigean LAG fluff:
"The Starwalkers, the First’s aerospace wing, has received a brand new
commander in Sho-sa Kyomi Arioch..."

Barring new information that renders House Kurita pg 130, FM: Draconis Combine pg 15-16 and ATOW Companion pg 30 obsolete, ASF pilots are all in the DCA and the DCA does not include the rank of Sho-sa.  The equivalent rank would be Dai-I.  Furthermore while DCA officers sometimes report to DCMS superiors is well documented, there is no evidence that DCMS officers are ever directly appointed AS wing commanders.
In addition:  PDF pages 64-67, DCMS unit deployment tables went from FM3085 assigning the rank of Cho-sa (sic) to Aero wing commanders to Sho-sa in FM3145.  Recommended changing back to corrected O-4 rank of Chu-sa or proper DCA rank of Dai-i if command of aero wings is now an O-3 billet.

Pg 231, Draconis Combine Battle Armor RAT:

roll result of 2 entry:  "Void (DCA) (3145)"

The correct TRO reference would be 3075

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Re: Field Manual 3145
« Reply #3 on: 10 September 2013, 19:26:39 »
Since there's not a rules questions subforum for TROs and other non-core rulebooks (I don't think Supplemental has quite the priority this one might need?), I'll put the question here:

Are HarJel II and III supposed to be able to regenerate more damage than has been suffered per turn?  As written, an LMG will deal one damage to a location, and if that location has HarJel II or III, it will then automatically regenerate either two or four points of armor, for a net gain of one or three armor.  In such a fashion, out of combat, it would be possible to completely "repair" a unit to maximum armor by striking it with LMGs repeatedly over the course of a few minutes.

I'm fairly sure that's not supposed to happen.  In light of that, suggested fix is to amend the descriptions for HarJel II and III to add a phase denoting that said systems cannot regenerate above and beyond the amount of damage taken that turn.
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Re: Field Manual 3145
« Reply #4 on: 10 September 2013, 19:41:16 »
Supplemental Rules is exactly what your question is for, as described in the sticky at the top of that forum.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #5 on: 10 September 2013, 20:55:48 »
PDF Pg. 101

"Thera-class Delos remains stranded in orbit" Change Delos to Santorini.

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #6 on: 10 September 2013, 22:22:05 »
PDF p. 208

"Tiburon Khanate: As with their brethren in Sina Khanate,"

Should be Spina Khanate.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #7 on: 10 September 2013, 22:49:59 »
PDF Pg. 79

Under the page header "Even bolstered as they are by the undamaged Periphery March Militia, the Thumpers, and
volunteers from the Filvelt Civilian..."

Should read Filtvelt Coalition.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #8 on: 10 September 2013, 22:59:06 »
PDF Pg. 101

"Thera-class Delos remainsstranded in orbit" Change Delos to Santorini.
I think that should also read "Thera-class Santorini remains stranded in orbit", there is a missing space, is that in the book or not?

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #9 on: 10 September 2013, 23:06:28 »
PDF Pg. 217
Republic of the Sphere Mech RAT

Line 27 Puma [95] should read Puma [35]

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #10 on: 11 September 2013, 01:36:02 »
PDF pg. 170

Not sure if it was intentional or not but "4th Wolf Guards" is repeated in the Wolf deployment section.

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #11 on: 11 September 2013, 02:21:52 »
pdf page 101

FWLN Fleet

Change:
"Thera-class Delos remains stranded in orbit around Oriente;"
to
"Thera-class Delos remains stranded in orbit around Avior;"

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #12 on: 11 September 2013, 02:46:19 »
Sorry for the inconvenience - before:


Page 130:
Commonwealth Jaegers description:

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In 3133, amid concerns of questionable loyalty
and suspected ties to separatist movements, the Skye Jaegers were disbanded as well.

While novels are not "lore" - the novel  "Bonfire of Worlds" was for a long time the reference.
During the assassination attempt at Melissa Steiner at February 22. 3141 - a Skye Jaeger Fafnir guarding the throne room - the pilot didn't move to protect its Archon - so she should get punished by Loki.

Could be a typo in both ways - but I would think a disbanding - in 43 would make more sense

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #13 on: 11 September 2013, 06:48:31 »
Page 245 TSEMP Weapons:

Game Rules: TSEMP weapons are only effective against targets weighing more than 200 tons and cannot be effectively used
against conventional infantry at all.

Should that be "are only effective against targets weighing no more than 200 tons"?
The rest of the entry suggests that.


EDIT: Already covered above.
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Additionally:

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A result of
that falls under the “No Effect” range for a unit indicates that the target suffers to significant effect from the attack.

I guess that should be "the target suffers no significant effect"

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #14 on: 11 September 2013, 09:32:35 »
page 263 Superheavy three-legged Mech Record Sheet Armor Digramm

there is a XX where you should enter the amount of armor for the front left torso
That XX needs to be removed


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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #15 on: 11 September 2013, 11:57:11 »
Page 20 - Border Crossings - right column

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The
forwardmost action of the invasion, dubbed Operation PELAYO by
Sandoval’s staff, was the three-week siege of Maryland on Annapolis.
The [unit] made six attempts to force their way into the capital city
but were rebuffed by the desperate defenders each time.

I guess the unit in question should be specified.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #16 on: 11 September 2013, 12:44:38 »
PDF, Page 247, Radical Heat Sink Rules

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(Note: Astute players will notice that this failure change is the same as that of the MASC system.)

-paragraph break-

Unlike the Coolant Pod, the Radical Heat Sink system will not explode if it suffers a
critical hit in combat.

For clarity, it should be written that Radical Heat Sink Systems do indeed suffer a critical hit upon failure.  (Unless for some reason, overuse of it makes it explode like a Coolant Pod anyways, and from my reading that doesn't seem to be the case.)

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #17 on: 11 September 2013, 16:41:24 »
 Free worlds league (general ) heavy mech RAT . roll result of 20 - Wendigo (50) . Is it norm or some error?

 PDF p.215
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #18 on: 11 September 2013, 20:36:49 »
FM:3145 PDF - P.189 - CALDERON PROTECTORATE

Minor Problem: The Protectorate remains unique in the Periphery as the only state with an active WarShip, the Quixote-class destroyer CDS Redemption.

Solution: Change Destroyer to Frigate.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #19 on: 11 September 2013, 21:14:18 »
FM:3145 PDF - P.221 - Rules Annex - Mecenaries Rolling Tables

Problem: TDK-7X Thunder Hawk [100] (3085-ONN) - This is the 7X which is the base line Thunder Hawk first appeared in TRO:3058 (later the Upgrade) and is not in 3085-ONN.

Solution: Change (3085-ONN) to (3058U)
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #20 on: 11 September 2013, 21:34:37 »
FM:3145 PDF - P.249 - Rules Annex - QUADVEE CONSTRUCTION RULES

Problem: Typo in Quadvee's Weight Limit line.
Quote from: 3145
Weight Limits: QuadVees may only be constructed within the weight limits of standard BattleMechs. QuadVess cannot be constructed as Superheavy ’Mechs.

Solution: Change Quadvess to Quadvee.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #21 on: 11 September 2013, 22:45:07 »
PDF, 1st Printing
Page 89, 92, Ceti Hussars listings in AFFS deployment table:

On pg 75, the Ceti Hussars are heavily inferred to be LCTs, with the 2nd Ceti being referred as such.  However, pg 89 and 92 list the units as "x Ceti Hussars RCT"

Solution:

Change pg 89 and 92 to read "x Ceti Hussars LCT"

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #22 on: 11 September 2013, 23:35:53 »
Gamma Aimag on page 170 is listed as a regular unit.

This may not be errata. But since they're a bunch of sharp shooting foxes that have won every ritual of combat that has been thrown their way I figured I'd mention it.

spotted by Savage Wolf, not that I'm sure it matters who spots possible errata. But I don't want to claim credit for his spotting
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #23 on: 12 September 2013, 04:58:13 »
PDF, first printing
Page 74, First Avalon Hussars LCT

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For this reason, the last twelve months have seen the First Hussars conducting crash training programs, to try and re-one their skills in advance of a very deal threat to the throne.

Suggested corrections: change "re-one" to "re-hone" and change "deal" to "real".


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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #24 on: 12 September 2013, 06:23:22 »
PDF, First Printing
Pg 218, line 20 of Clan Jade Falcon Medium Mech RAT

Problem: Black Lanner [55] (3058U-C)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Black Lanner* [55] (3058U-C)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, line 2 of Clan Sea Fox Medium Mech RAT

Problem: GLR-5R Gladiator* [55] (3075)     <--Does not need an asterisk, unit is not an Omni
Correction: GLR-5R Gladiator [55] (3075)

PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, lines 14 and 15 of Wolf Empire Light 'Mech RAT
Pg 220, line 13 and 15 of Rasalhague Dominion Light 'Mech RAT

Problem: Wulfen [30] (3145)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Wulfen* [30] (3145)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, lines 10 and 13 of Wolf Empire Heavy Mech RAT

Problem: Warwolf [75] (3145)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Warwolf* [75] (3145)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, line 21 of Wolf Empire Light Mech RAT

Problem: Puma [35] (3050U-C)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Puma* [35] (3050U-C)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, line 17 of Wolf Empire Medium Mech RAT

Problem: Phantom [40] (3055U)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Phantom* [40] (3055U)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 219, line 22 Wolf Empire Assault Mech RAT

Problem: Masakari [85] (3050U-C)     <--Needs an asterisk to denote unit is an Omni
Correction: Masakari* [85] (3050U-C)


PDF, First Printing
Pg 218, line 17 of Clan Hells Horses Heavy Mech RAT
Pg 219, line 18 of Clan Sea Fox Heavy Mech RAT
Pg 220, line 17 of Raven Alliance Heavy Mech RAT

Problem: Mad Cat IV* [75] (3145)     <--Correct name is "Mad Cat Mk IV"
Correction: Mad Cat Mk IV* [75] (3145)
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #25 on: 12 September 2013, 08:35:54 »
Field Manual 3145 PDF- Page 79- Federated Suns- Periphery March Guards- Fifth Periphery March Guards

Minor Problem: Happy to receive these donations to expand the Periphery Guards, Duke Marsin and his successors not only forged the Fourth LCT, but honored a commitment to keep at least half of the regiment on planet through its existence . . .

Solution: Change Fourth to Fifth

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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #26 on: 12 September 2013, 12:11:36 »
Per here: http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,33138.msg771167.html#new


The nickname of the Marian I Legio should be "Martia Victrix, not "Martina Victrix".  Apparently it was an error from several books ago that's gotten carried forward.
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Re: Field Manual 3145
« Reply #27 on: 13 September 2013, 12:01:37 »
I'm fairly sure that's not supposed to happen.  In light of that, suggested fix is to amend the descriptions for HarJel II and III to add a phase denoting that said systems cannot regenerate above and beyond the amount of damage taken that turn.

Turns out I was dead wrong.
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #28 on: 13 September 2013, 13:44:57 »
PDF, p. 245. TSEMP Weapon Rules, Game Rules, sixth paragraph

Insert the following at the end of this paragraph:

"However, a unit can only suffer "Interference" once: multiple "Interference" results do not stack."
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Re: Field Manual: 3145
« Reply #29 on: 13 September 2013, 13:48:01 »
PDF, p. 251, Tripod Mech Construction rules, first sentence

"Tripod ’Mechs follow all the same construction rules as superheavy ’Mechs (see p. 252), with the following additions:"
Change to:
"Tripod ’Mechs follow all the same construction rules as biped ’Mechs of equivalent weight and type, with the following additions:"
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