What would you equip the reborn Rolling Thunder and GMAB with ?

[Caturix]

Everything's in the title ;) !
Almost...  In 3085 +, what mechs would you see this two famous units working with ? What's available for us, Regulans ? What can reasonably be salvaged on battlefields ?

The Rolling Thunder were originaly a company strong, and the GMAB a batalion.

Suggestions on special ammunitions, tactics, and so on are welcome :).

[Moonsword]

If you're going to get cute, Tufanas are a solid choice for spotting, and the Ostwar is a very solid heavy 'Mech being built on Wallis.  They may have picked up a few Aerons as well after Andurien offered them for sale (and after getting their heads knocked in by the thing).

There's probably some of the League's old standbys around, too, like Orions, Archers, or Trebuchets.

[nckestrel]

GMAB is Green Monster Assault Battalion, and it was a true assault (all assault mechs) not just a heavy battalion called assault if I remember correctly?
I don't think Regulus makes any assaults right now?  Lots of good heavies, but no assaults.  So I'd look for refits or old FWLM standards.  Stalker (6M), Awesome (9M, 9Q), Battlemaster (3M, 5M), Goliath, Sirocco, Grand Titan, Thug (10E), Longbow (12C?), Emperor (6A). 

[Caturix]

That's correct, sir ! No mechs under 70 tons in the GMAB.

[JPArbiter]

Rolling THunder, being a showcase company of the first Regulans, would have to be very much a Regulan centric in its designs.  that means the Ostwar, Patriot, and probably Updated Sarissa.  The issue of the Trebuchet Lances (which is one per company now right?) comes up as well, Would Rolling Thunder use a lance of the same mech for economic Reasons, or for propeganda purposes would they try to make each machine recognizable?

[nckestrel]

That's correct, sir ! No mechs under 70 tons in the GMAB.

Oh, at 70 and 75 tons the Regulans have some home built options.  Warhammer, Marauder, Patriot, Ostwar. 
Also Hercules and Orion from Kali Yama on Kendall is selling to whoever.

[Moonsword]

The Ostwar is indeed Regulan (well, now it is, it was originally built in the Hegemony back in the Age of War) but it's 65 tons.

[LastChanceCav]

If you could lay your hands on a double C3M Battlemaster (or a Sunder), the new Rolling Thunder could be built as a C3 company with Patriots running 2 of the lances.

Cheers,
LCC

[martian]

I think you can't go wrong with Stalker. It's described as the most produced assault 'Mech. Regulans should have STK-5M left. As far as I know there hasn't been published any Record sheet for STK-6M. This missile-heavy variant (loaded with Semi-guided or other special missiles made in former FWL) could be great for use with some fast spotter.

[Crunch]

The Ostwar is indeed Regulan (well, now it is, it was originally built in the Hegemony back in the Age of War) but it's 65 tons.

But a darn nice unit.

[Moonsword]

Oh, no question about that - see what I said about it up in the first reply to the thread.  It's just not 70 tons or above, which someone was using as a cutoff.

[Devens]

Rolling Thunder :  Gallion Tanks, it is more beffitting the name.  Alternately you can go for Giant Hamster Wheels.

GMAB:                   While I am tempted to say chargers, I would go 100% Awesomes.

[Moonsword]

A horde of Galleons has a bit of a problem in the intimidation factor arena, although the newer XLFEs are a darn sight nastier than the old ones.  But it's still less rolling thunder and more a bunch of roaches scattering when the lights get turned on... especially compared to what the Rolling Thunder originally was.

[Lorcan Nagle]

I'm plannign to update my Regulans to post-Jihad in th enear future too.  the only units i've decided on for sure are a Patriot, an Ostwar and two Trebuchets...

[Devens]

A horde of Galleons has a bit of a problem in the intimidation factor arena, although the newer XLFEs are a darn sight nastier than the old ones.  But it's still less rolling thunder and more a bunch of roaches scattering when the lights get turned on... especially compared to what the Rolling Thunder originally was.

The point is the name does not fit a Mech unit.  Tracked or Wheeled Tanks are more fitting for the units name.

[Moonsword]

Maybe, but that's still not the Galleon.  Demolishers are intimidating.  Ontoses are intimidating.  To be honest, LRM carriers in groups can be pretty intimidating.

Galleons?  Not really that intimidating.

[JPArbiter]

I think we need to establish just what factories are in Regulan Territory (Principality of Regulus, Regulan Free States, and the Principality of Gibson)

[Moonsword]

Well, not anything actually on Gibson.  They kind of made sure of that one.

[JPArbiter]

lol, yeah I guess they did, didn't they?

[Devens]

Maybe, but that's still not the Galleon.  Demolishers are intimidating.  Ontoses are intimidating.  To be honest, LRM carriers in groups can be pretty intimidating.

Galleons?  Not really that intimidating.

The Galleon was the only one I could think of that was FWL designed and Built at the time.  Ontoses would be a good one also.  I just think the Choice(s) should be something the FWL fields in large numbers.

[martian]

What about Merkava Mk. IX? (Earthwerks - Tiber)

Better than Galleon.

[Moonsword]

Not bad although someone needs to smack them and remind them what an energy weapon is and why they're nice.

[martian]

Yeah, but it's FWL- what have you expected?  ;) (At least it has 2 tons of ammo for LGR, not usual 1 ton)

And another idea - Vedette. It seems that there was quite common upgrade which included swapping AC-5 for Imperator Ultra-5. It's some improvement, you can't deny it...

[Moonsword]

Considering that the original doesn't jam and can do some very interesting things with alternate rounds, I find I can deny it quite readily.

And, uh, CASE?  I can expect CASE.  That extra 100 rounds of MG ammo means a lot less when the whole blasted tank goes up! [tickedoff]

[martian]

You are right with that ammunition, I have associated it with former FedCom mostly, but now it could be bought almost everywhere. And CASE? Regulans do not need it. They are "Steel" Hussars....
But seriously, the extra ton of bullets is useless, all right.

Moltke - interesting design exported during Jihad from Andurien to Regulus. And it's 75 tons.

[Moonsword]

I genuinely like the various Moltkes.  A couple of them could use CASE themselves but it's less of an issue with the thicker armor and the lack of machine gun ammo.

[nckestrel]

And another idea - Vedette. It seems that there was quite common upgrade which included swapping AC-5 for Imperator Ultra-5. It's some improvement, you can't deny it...

I can deny it.  You lose speciality ammunition for the "ability" to jam your only gun all game :).  (I HATE Ultra autocannons.  rotaries upgrade that to merely dislike).

[Moonsword]

I dunno.  Ultra/10s and /20s seem worth the risk if you're smart about it.  The 2 and 5, on the other hand...

[martian]

I am lucky with Ultras usually  :) I can take the risk.

Perhaps some Partisan anti-aircraft tanks (80 tons)? And JES Missile Carrier (95 tons)? ("for general sale across the Inner Sphere")

[nckestrel]

I dunno.  Ultra/10s and /20s seem worth the risk if you're smart about it.  The 2 and 5, on the other hand...

I play once a month, as a demo I run for other players.  My entire month and my players (some that drive from hours away) is ruined by a single roll of a 2.
Headshots and center torso crits you have a minimum of control over.  Try to make the hit roll harder.   Ultra's, the only choice is to not use them.   Sure a head shot can hit on a to hit of 12, and then roll another twelve.  That's 1/36 * 1/36 = not at all likely.  I can apologize and point out that it is unlikely to ever happen again.   Ultra jams?  yeah, that happens every 36 shots, and there's nothing you can do about it, except not use ultra.

[martian]

To return back to 'Mechs and vehicles, could Regulans use Marauder MAD-9M and MAD-9M2? I would say they can build them on Wallis, and if not build them then salvage them. Which leads me to interesting MAD-6M Marauder II with suite of pulse lasers. Does anyone know where this 'Mech is (re)built? I mean, can Regulans get their hands on it?

[nckestrel]

To return back to 'Mechs and vehicles, could Regulans use Marauder MAD-9M and MAD-9M2? I would say they can build them on Wallis, and if not build them then salvage them. Which leads me to interesting MAD-6M Marauder II with suite of pulse lasers. Does anyone know where this 'Mech is (re)built? I mean, can Regulans get their hands on it?

TR3085 specifically says Wallis is making the MAD-9M2.  I thik all the former FWL remnants can refit the MAD-6M.  There's no reason listed to exclude the Regulans.

[Moonsword]

They're building Marauders and Warhammers on Wallis in the Marik book, so I'd assume they can get their hands on the MAD-9M and 9M2.  (The other Marauder line in the FWL was on Gibson, so, uh, blame Regulus!)

As far as the Marauder II, they may be able to redevelop it in-house, but that would be a major undertaking.

[martian]

O.K., I wasn't sure if there isn't mentioned elsewhere something about MAD-6M, thanks.

Regulans could use Warhammers? WHM-8D and -8M? Maybe some older WHM-7M?

As you may see from my userbar, I used to be fan of 13th Marik Militia, but when I read they defected to Blakists ... I wasn't pleased to say it gently.   :(

[nckestrel]

They're building Marauders and Warhammers on Wallis in the Marik book, so I'd assume they can get their hands on the MAD-9M and 9M2.  (The other Marauder line in the FWL was on Gibson, so, uh, blame Regulus!)

As far as the Marauder II, they may be able to redevelop it in-house, but that would be a major undertaking.

Irian makes/made the MAD-9M and MAD-9M2.  Wallis reverse engineered the 9M2 and is building that model.

MAD-4S's were sold to everybody, including the FWL (TR Project Phoenix).  MAD-6M is a refit of the Marauder II (TR3085).  So I assume the 6M is a refit of the 4S.  FWL isn't buildling new Marauder IIs.

[Moonsword]

I'm well aware of the Marauder II's production status.  That was a suggestion that Ronin might be able to reverse engineer the design and create their own line, not a suggestion that the FWL was building them.

[nckestrel]

I'm well aware of the Marauder II's production status.  That was a suggestion that Ronin might be able to reverse engineer the design and create their own line, not a suggestion that the FWL was building them.

They could reverse engineer Daishi's and make an assault FWL omni too, but there's no indication that they have :).

[Moonsword]

EDIT: You know what, forget it.

[JPArbiter]

Irian makes/made the MAD-9M and MAD-9M2.  Wallis reverse engineered the 9M2 and is building that model.

MAD-4S's were sold to everybody, including the FWL (TR Project Phoenix).  MAD-6M is a refit of the Marauder II (TR3085).  So I assume the 6M is a refit of the 4S.  FWL isn't buildling new Marauder IIs.

eventually Iran folds into the republic anyway, which keeps the mech factory (secretly) operating and pumping out Marauder IIs.  the five major rebel factions, a Cappelan Task Force, the ROTS and the Northwind Highlanders all fought a massive war over it, with Katana Tormark's Dragons fury taking the factory