Author Topic: The Rasalhague Dominion: Friend of a Friend (but not your Friend) (Read 199231 times)

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #1350 on:** 07 November 2020, 20:38:11 »

Quote from: Jellico on 07 November 2020, 16:29:23

Both the Firemoth factories got Wobbied. So I guess I am saying the Firemoth doesn't have to show up in the Dominion. Or am I? :D

A little nuclear fallout never stopped a real clan from sending workers in!

Zeruel · « **Reply #1351 on:** 07 November 2020, 21:03:38 »

As much as I would love to see us rebuilding the Fire Moth lines, I think I'd rather just see something new

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #1352 on:** 07 November 2020, 21:06:48 »

Quote from: Zeruel on 07 November 2020, 21:03:38

As much as I would love to see us rebuilding the Fire Moth lines, I think I'd rather just see something new

Rebuild the factories and add more lines than before! It might stop my complaining for a while. :D

wantec · « **Reply #1353 on:** 07 November 2020, 22:53:48 »

Quote from: Zeruel on 07 November 2020, 21:03:38

As much as I would love to see us rebuilding the Fire Moth lines, I think I'd rather just see something new

The nature of the Kickstarter and supporting it means basically everything in the KS as a mini will be in production in some form. If it's got to go to someone, why not do both, get the Fire Moth and something new.

Zeruel · « **Reply #1354 on:** 07 November 2020, 23:43:54 »

Quote from: wantec on 07 November 2020, 22:53:48

The nature of the Kickstarter and supporting it means basically everything in the KS as a mini will be in production in some form. If it's got to go to someone, why not do both, get the Fire Moth and something new.

I don't dare to hope for both XD

wantec · « **Reply #1355 on:** 08 November 2020, 19:18:02 »

Quote from: Zeruel on 07 November 2020, 23:43:54

I don't dare to hope for both XD

Well I can't say for sure because I only know what I've written and I think only the stuff through Volume 10 or 11 has been assigned & written.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1356 on:** 08 November 2020, 19:46:45 »

Gonna need some new battle armor to go with them fire moths. ;)

wantec · « **Reply #1357 on:** 09 November 2020, 07:49:47 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 08 November 2020, 19:46:45

Gonna need some new battle armor to go with them fire moths. ;)

Not necessarily with a few of the new configurations. But I do agree in general, and we have new BA mentioned in Children of Kerensky. The way I understand it the Rec Guides are going to be 'Mech-only, so where new BA would show up is something I just don't know.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1358 on:** 09 November 2020, 13:02:09 »

Quote from: wantec on 09 November 2020, 07:49:47

Not necessarily with a few of the new configurations. But I do agree in general, and we have new BA mentioned in Children of Kerensky. The way I understand it the Rec Guides are going to be 'Mech-only, so where new BA would show up is something I just don't know.

I'm just throwing spaghetti at the wall for throwing sake. We don't really need a new ba, I'm just greedy.

Jellico · « **Reply #1359 on:** 10 November 2020, 00:01:20 »

What do you want in a new BA? While the tech isn't completely mined out yet, it is close to the bottom.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #1360 on:** 13 November 2020, 16:46:32 »

After getting my hands on Clan Invasion boxed set (one LGS in here had it) I chose to switch to Ghost Bears to avoid whole ilClan silliness since so far Ghost Bears aren't really involved with that.

Zeruel · « **Reply #1361 on:** 14 November 2020, 00:39:41 »

Quote from: Mecha82 on 13 November 2020, 16:46:32

After getting my hands on Clan Invasion boxed set (one LGS in here had it) I chose to switch to Ghost Bears to avoid whole ilClan silliness since so far Ghost Bears aren't really involved with that.

That ilClan silliness might the only action to get in on for a while...

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1362 on:** 14 November 2020, 15:12:55 »

Quote from: Mecha82 on 13 November 2020, 16:46:32

After getting my hands on Clan Invasion boxed set (one LGS in here had it) I chose to switch to Ghost Bears to avoid whole ilClan silliness since so far Ghost Bears aren't really involved with that.

The good news is your combine minis will still get played with!

Quote from: Jellico on 10 November 2020, 00:01:20

What do you want in a new BA? While the tech isn't completely mined out yet, it is close to the bottom.

Honestly I'd rather have the ability to produce Ogre's than come up with a new suit.

CJC070 · « **Reply #1363 on:** 14 November 2020, 15:29:37 »

Quote from: Zeruel on 14 November 2020, 00:39:41

That ilClan silliness might the only action to get in on for a while...

Who says that the Ghost Bears won’t be involved at the appointed hour. Isn’t their totem known for coming out of nowhere.

David CGB · « **Reply #1364 on:** 14 November 2020, 16:09:53 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 14 November 2020, 15:12:55

Honestly I'd rather have the ability to produce Ogre's than come up with a new suit.

I would rather have the centaur battle armor, it would add much more..

Tyler Jorgensson · « **Reply #1365 on:** 14 November 2020, 16:15:05 »

Upgraded Rogue Bear with AP Gauss, a Quad Assault Suit, and a fast boy to keep up with the Horses Quad whose name I forget at this moment.

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #1366 on:** 14 November 2020, 17:05:21 »

I would like a golem if was good.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #1367 on:** 14 November 2020, 17:19:26 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 14 November 2020, 15:12:55

The good news is your combine minis will still get played with!

Yes, against each other even. After all GB and DC have clashed time to time even during Operation Revival. That short story that was included with Clan Invasion boxed set was about one of those times.

Jellico · « **Reply #1368 on:** 14 November 2020, 18:55:44 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 14 November 2020, 15:12:55

Honestly I'd rather have the ability to produce Ogre's than come up with a new suit.

There is the Reactive Armor Rogue Bear. Sure 4 shots isn't 13, but who uses 13 rounds and it has better armor and generates a jumping to-hit modifier.

Quote from: Kerfuffin(925) on 14 November 2020, 17:05:21

I would like a golem if was good.

Try Golems in the city, especially with alternate Bear Hunter rules.
Alternatively try Golem Support.

Quote from: Tyler Jorgensson on 14 November 2020, 16:15:05

Upgraded Rogue Bear with AP Gauss, a Quad Assault Suit, and a fast boy to keep up with the Horses Quad whose name I forget at this moment.

SRMs tend to be equal to APGRs if you have enough ammo. Enough depends upon armor.
A quad is not going to happen.
You can only keep up with a Buraq by going quad or a very very light VTOL. Whether you really need to keep up with a BA that can only crack 70kmh is a different question. Like doesn't have to fight like.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1369 on:** 15 November 2020, 20:35:15 »

I've ran out of rounds with my ogres before ;D, Ogres are FUN to play with defensively.

Quote from: Kerfuffin(925) on 14 November 2020, 17:05:21

I would like a golem if was good.

I'll echo playing them in a defense map, especially if other battle armor are involved. You laugh at the bear hunters range until it's time to dislodge them. Or your opponent oops and takes the plasma variant of the blackwolf.

Tyler Jorgensson · « **Reply #1370 on:** 16 November 2020, 02:39:42 »

I tend to be aggressive with my BA and my (Clan) opponent is a Hell Horse player who uses a real Combined Arms Star including Infantry. Usually I take a point or two of APGR Elementals but I’d love to use the Rogue Bears more.... so that’s a personal wish.

The Quad Assault Suit: I mean I want a Kodiak equivalent in BA form because it would be awesome.

As for the Buraq (thanks) I want to out Horde the Horses and Falcons and show them real swarm clusters. Duplicate their designs and make them better seems like a good way to do it. Plus a fast scout BA (doesn’t have to be a quad but IDK how to design BA) would be awesome paired with our normal BA carriers.

Jellico · « **Reply #1371 on:** 16 November 2020, 07:07:48 »

It is important to remember that like doesn't have to fight like.

For example scout BA are a poor option outside of cities because they are so slow. But! The Dominion has a very solid one in the form of the Constable, or alternatively a Kobold or Kobold IIC. And they have hands where Buraq don't.

If you want a Dominion swarm Cluster look up yhe Third Drakøn's semi humorous Viking Doctrine.

Rogue Bears are roughly equal to Elementals. It mostly depends upon how much you can pin your enemy down. If there are Infantry in play you have a good chance. But don't send them against the crunchies. Send your BA after the tanks. Those SRMs are made for immobilising, and once they can't move the MGs will get kills.

Rogue Bear [Upgrade] BV396
Elemental [APGR] BV428
If the Bears do the job for less...

truetanker · « **Reply #1372 on:** 16 November 2020, 14:18:04 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 09 November 2020, 13:02:09

I'm just throwing spaghetti at the wall for throwing sake. We don't really need a new ba, I'm just greedy.

Your just sad that there isn't five mini lions that transform to make a bigger bot!

TT

Zeruel · « **Reply #1373 on:** 20 November 2020, 15:02:34 »

so new RecGuide has the Fire Moth and Viper in it

both are listed as being built at Dominion Facility Kappa-5 on Thule (the Viper line there is new info), which was destroyed in the Jihad..so rebuilt? and we build the Viper again?? it's not fully clear, but I would assume they wouldn't put out of date info

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #1374 on:** 20 November 2020, 15:20:40 »

Quote from: Zeruel on 20 November 2020, 15:02:34

so new RecGuide has the Fire Moth and Viper in it

both are listed as being built at Dominion Facility Kappa-5 on Thule (the Viper line there is new info), which was destroyed in the Jihad..so rebuilt? and we build the Viper again?? it's not fully clear, but I would assume they wouldn't put out of date info

One of the other books (FM:3085 or whatever the post jihad production lines books was, maybe updates) said they had plans to make Thule a main plant, further removed from anyone who could attack it. I would bet they did rebuild it, along with the other two plants there.

Mecha82 · « **Reply #1375 on:** 20 November 2020, 20:19:55 »

So we have steady supply of Vipers if needed. I haven't really though it as typical Ghost Bear mech so I have been wrong in that.

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #1376 on:** 20 November 2020, 21:01:51 »

what do you guys think is going on with those R variants?
The dominion shouldn’t have any need to make low tech pod mounts, and 5>4 so I don’t know why regular c3. Maybe they are Republican variants, but the lore in the Viper pilot seems to suggest (at least the viper R) is native to the dominion.

truetanker · « **Reply #1377 on:** 20 November 2020, 21:06:57 »

Umm... little r or big R.

Cause I can see Republic with little r. Like how the 3050+ IS omni's got that R designation from Clantech.

I wonder if GB still make due with future (C) models anymore?

TT

Jellico · « **Reply #1378 on:** 21 November 2020, 03:09:14 »

https://youtu.be/9vWNauaZAgg

The factories are rebuilt (Firemoth) or finally finished (Viper). No confirmed date yet. Watch the MUL.

R usually designates an Omni variant using mixed tech. In this case these are old widespread OmniMechs with a general Inner Sphere presence.

truetanker · « **Reply #1379 on:** 21 November 2020, 11:34:31 »

Which is what I said. Little r, should be Republic while big R are clanified IS Omni models.

TT