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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #60 on: 25 June 2021, 14:58:15 »
That XO would be told he's "no beltah" by anyone working those yards...
Not really. He's plenty beltah. Kowloon rockjacks are tough, but if they could have pressurized rotating cans to live in near the job site where they can take off their helmets, get some fresh air, and poop sitting down, they'd take em. It's just that they're on a time table and at war. Luxuries can come afterwards or during leave rotation.

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« Reply #61 on: 25 June 2021, 22:33:34 »
Not really. He's plenty beltah. Kowloon rockjacks are tough, but if they could have pressurized rotating cans to live in near the job site where they can take off their helmets, get some fresh air, and poop sitting down, they'd take em. It's just that they're on a time table and at war. Luxuries can come afterwards or during leave rotation.
they were at war even before the uprising. you can bet that part of the reason for the ultra bare bones facilities is because sturdier habs, gravdecks, etc are all things the Rimworlders would pick up on.. which is bad when you are trying to hide to avoid reprisals.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #62 on: 25 June 2021, 23:02:04 »
Snark repair yard...

a few short years go, Rear Admiral Throckmorton would have put the woman he was meeting here, in a prison cell and called it a good day's work.

Anh Cu'ong was a known face in some circles, after all-a smuggler and pirate wanted for crimes against the Rim Worlds Republic, a smuggler of contraband, identified by numerous informants over a thirty year period, at one time on the Star League's 'most wanted' list in no small part for her distressing habit of avoiding capture.

Now, he was floating in a pressurized bubble-shelter looking into the eyes of one of the most elusive criminals in the last fifty years.

She was also, currently, holding a letter of Marque issued by the Kowloonese provisional government, with a warrant of commission.

"Admiral, welcome to Snark."  She said.  Her accent was clipped with a sharp, precise pronunciation of someone who studied English and was good at it, but didn't speak it at home.  "I trust your trip out was uneventful?"

"No significant problems.  General DeChevalier said you're the person to talk to about the supply corridor for the 171st."  Throckmorton stated.  "You know, I hardly believed it, We chased you all over the periphery for years..."

she inclined her head.  "you came a long way for work that could be done over correspondence.  What does the Star League Navy need with my people?"

"We're prepping an offensive in the direction of the Terran Hegemony." he laid out, "There are some issues with transport of supplies and personnel..."

"You need to hire some shipping then." she shrugged.

"Actually..." he nodded at her pale tan overgarment, at the patch below the left zip-pocket. "I'm looking for routes that aren't likely to be heavily patrolled by member-state navies that aren't committed to the Liberation."

"You're concerned about interference from the Lyrans." she observed, "Which you kind of should be.  The Steiners didn't come out on your side."

"No, they didn't.  We're getting some back-channel support but..."

She didn't smile.  "I understand.  Rimjob intelligence doesn't need to do much to mess with your supply lines and the Lyrans aren't going to secure those routes."

"You do understand."

"Of course I do.  Ngo led the ground fight, but I've been fighting this war against the Rimjobs since my parents were disappeared in '35.  You're looking for a pathfinder's trail into the Terran Hegemony that bypasses most of the observer and traffic control stations, so that your offensive can kick off without the Rimjobs having a nice ambush laid for you.  You're also looking for sustainment, and unless I miss my guess, you're laying in for additional cargo shipping to keep your field units supplied...and you're hoping I can talk to The Folk about coming off the fence on your side."

He gestured at the patch on her coverall, "You've got the Pathfinder patch." he said.

"It means I've done some extraordinary things, it doesn't mean I've got juice with the Lines." she stated, "What do we get out of it?"

Throckmorton schooled his face to look confused, because he'd been coached on this by Igor.  "What do you want? wood? Cloth? fresh meat? booze?"

She rolled her eyes, "We get those here from the planet." she said, "Try harder.  I know about the Mother Doctrine.  You're asking for smuggler's routes, that's a confidence, what do you have to offer for trade secrets?"

he reached into his tunic.  "This, is technical information." he told her, "Fundamentals not released in the open, basic research, core fundamentals for building or rebuilding an industrial base."

"You'll get your routes." she said, accepting the chip, "IF this is genuine."

"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #63 on: 26 June 2021, 04:52:42 »
He didn't even blink when she said "Mother Doctrine"!  :o

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #64 on: 26 June 2021, 05:58:41 »
What is "mother doctrine"?

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #65 on: 26 June 2021, 06:03:38 »
In short, Terra's nefarious plan to keep everyone else down...

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« Reply #66 on: 26 June 2021, 06:56:22 »
Oh wow... for an high ranked SLDF official as our good general here then to NOT BLINK when Anh yielded knowledge on that... especially given she's got some ins with the Guild...

Jesus, that has some serious implications as to the current situation the SLDF feels it is in!

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« Reply #67 on: 26 June 2021, 07:23:13 »
Indeed!  Hence my  :o

Also, think of the Mother Doctrine as what Holy Shroud merely aspired to be...  >:D

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« Reply #68 on: 26 June 2021, 09:01:13 »
He didn't even blink when she said "Mother Doctrine"!  :o

He had that data on him.  Thockmorton knew Anh knew, or at least strongly suspected she knew.  And had that data on him to bargain with.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #69 on: 26 June 2021, 09:24:55 »
It's still supposed to be a black program (in fact, one of the blackest).

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #70 on: 26 June 2021, 09:29:47 »
Nicely done, that the Star League was pulling a CoDominion on the Inner Sphere well before our friendly neighborhood robes is telling.
The thing about Marauders is this, the big bad MAD was never unseen, reseen or whatever. We were always there.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #71 on: 26 June 2021, 09:30:52 »
My guess is ROM cribbed notes from the Mother Doctrine when conceiving of Holy Shroud.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #72 on: 26 June 2021, 11:54:46 »
Planning for Operation: Chieftain goes on...

"it's an Anaconda plan.  we could go straight for Terra first, but that leaves Amaris forces able to hit our flanks."  General Aleksandr Kerensky noted. 

"There's going to be a problem if we keep the one-seven-one tied with the Eighty-Third on the Lyran front, sir."  Aaron DeChevalier was Kerensky's right-hand man.  "They're not going to play well with Ralliers from the other Rim Worlds Republic worlds."

"How 'not well' are we discussing?"  Abe Truscott asked from his chair.  "I mean, for the other general officers on the link."

"Highly probable fratricide."  Kerensky pronounced, getting looks from his subordinates-except for DeChevalier.  "It's worse than putting Taurians with Davions, right Aaron?"

"Just so." DeChevalier nodded, "the question is, who gets stuck with them if you're taking them off the Lyran front?"

"I have a unit in mind." Kerensky stated, "the Tigers can sit on the 'Loonies and make them useful."
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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #73 on: 26 June 2021, 14:08:39 »
Kerensky's Sledgehammers and the 'Loonies.  Now there's a team.

Is this one where the 90th Heavy Assault is a Division or a Regiment?
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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #74 on: 26 June 2021, 18:47:22 »
Kerensky's Sledgehammers and the 'Loonies.  Now there's a team.

Is this one where the 90th Heavy Assault is a Division or a Regiment?
The Tigers are a Regiment (With Attachments) I think I might have mistyped somewhere and wrote division instead of regiment.
The thing about Marauders is this, the big bad MAD was never unseen, reseen or whatever. We were always there.

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« Reply #75 on: 26 June 2021, 23:00:46 »
KMS Maria...

"Can we do it?"  Tranh Truk Ngo was out of the hospital, and floating in the CIC.

"Pretty sure we can." Anh said, "I'm a little bit concerned with some of the requirements.  We're going to be establishing supply lines more than half-way across the Inner Sphere, and you want us to also start commerce raiding."

"I don't WANT it, but if the data packet from the SLDF command lines out the way it looks, we're going to NEED it." Ngo sipped a coffee bulb, "Most of the SLDF's fleet is direct support for ground forces, but interstellar war is like an island hopping campaign-if the enemy can reinforce, resupply, or manuever, it ends up chewing up massive numbers to no solid gains."

"I'm sure General Kerensky's considered that, Colonel." she said.

"I'd agree, but look at the ******  in the Taurian Concordat these last twenty years.  If Amaris is free to use similar tactics...well, he's not outright stupid."

"I agree.  How do you want to play it though?"  she asked.

"Your connections have enough ships and crew to keep us supplied?" He asked.

"More than enough." she asserted.

"Then we play it straight.  keep my supply lines open, and if the opportunity arises, hits to the enemy's transport network and economy-we can't afford to overcommit to a campaign we can't win, and the Terries didn't ask you to add that."

"fair enough." she nodded.

"In the meantime, keep working up the charts and plans for alternative methods.  We broke the Rimjobs in part by breaking their fortresses on Kowloon.  I'd like to have that as a fallback option."

"Keep it in the quiver?"

"For now." Ngo nodded.  "I don't think our present allies would appreciate planting volcanoes or cracking crusts as the price of victory-and I'm not sure I could live with the results of going gloves-off and the civilian deaths that would inevitably result from escalating THAT way."

"Understood.  what's our next target?"

"DeChevalier hasn't said yet, which gives us time to integrate the replacements and set up future production to support them."
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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #76 on: 27 June 2021, 00:01:21 »
"Pretty sure we can." Anh said, "I'm a little bit concerned with some of the requirements.  We're going to be establishing supply lines more than half-way across the Inner Sphere, and you want us to also start commerce raiding."

"I don't WANT it, but if the data packet from the SLDF command lines out the way it looks, we're going to NEED it." Ngo sipped a coffee bulb, "Most of the SLDF's fleet is direct support for ground forces, but interstellar war is like an island hopping campaign-if the enemy can reinforce, resupply, or manuever, it ends up chewing up massive numbers to no solid gains."

(snip)

"Then we play it straight.  keep my supply lines open, and if the opportunity arises, hits to the enemy's transport network and economy-we can't afford to overcommit to a campaign we can't win, and the Terries didn't ask you to add that."

(snip)

"DeChevalier hasn't said yet, which gives us time to integrate the replacements and set up future production to support them."

So the smugglers have time, need to integrate the replacements, and are being asked to start commerce raiding.  I see the smugglers using the commerce raiding as a way to train their new crews.  The fun question is how many of the seized Jumpships will be turned over to the SLDF, how many to the Kowloon main force, and how many will just be kept by the smugglers.  More Jumpships in the hands of the smugglers means keeping the Kowloon troops supplied will be much easier.

It also means Amaris may have to disperse his fleet (or the CASPAR drones) to more systems, meaning the SLDF has a better chance of picking them off in smaller formations.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #77 on: 27 June 2021, 13:43:58 »
The Tigers are a Regiment (With Attachments) I think I might have mistyped somewhere and wrote division instead of regiment.

 In one of the elseworlds, Cannonshop had them as a division and a heck of a reaction during the Jihad when the Tigers flag was flown in NYC.  I think it was one of the Orc stories.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #78 on: 27 June 2021, 13:45:21 »
KMS Maria...



"In the meantime, keep working up the charts and plans for alternative methods.  We broke the Rimjobs in part by breaking their fortresses on Kowloon.  I'd like to have that as a fallback option."

"Keep it in the quiver?"

"For now." Ngo nodded.  "I don't think our present allies would appreciate planting volcanoes or cracking crusts as the price of victory-and I'm not sure I could live with the results of going gloves-off and the civilian deaths that would inevitably result from escalating THAT way."



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"First, one brief announcement. I just want to mention, for those who have asked, that absolutely nothing what so ever happened today in sector 83x9x12. I repeat, nothing happened. Please remain calm." Susan Ivanova
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Romo Lampkin could have gotten Stefan Amaris off with a warning.

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #79 on: 28 June 2021, 10:37:08 »
I wonder what 2770 campaign will in tale.
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« Reply #80 on: 28 June 2021, 11:48:53 »
I wonder what 2770 campaign will in tale.

We've hit a point where I actually need to do some research so as not to step on anything Canonical (at least, not step on it too hard).

the Broad strokes involves working up a series of battles and conflicts where the Kowloonese eat heavy casualties against a variety of opponents.  so this is going to be a little slow, and I'll be figuring out which battles they lose.  (nobody hits 1000).

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« Reply #81 on: 28 June 2021, 14:21:50 »
yeah at the end of a campaign, i see a dropships loadmaster trying to check folks in

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #82 on: 28 June 2021, 15:55:38 »
Said with perfect precision and 1,000 yard stare...  8)

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Re: Lest we drown in the darkness...
« Reply #83 on: 29 June 2021, 17:45:46 »
Hey, it's Anh! Now there's a lady who knows what she's about....good times.
The thing about Marauders is this, the big bad MAD was never unseen, reseen or whatever. We were always there.

I want to build something REAL....I want to bring our people out of the DARK AGES while there's something to save.
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