Clan Protectorate

[Scotty]

You would think that as the Protectorates leader he'd want something a bit better though.

Narrative and gameplay disconnect.  An elite pilot isn't going to be as easy to hit as a green one, but BattleTech doesn't actually represent that at all without Evasion rules that are not great ways to represent it.

It's something of a fundamental disconnect between what I'd consider real life and the game: in the game, a green pilot and an elite pilot can perform exactly the same things, and there's no actual difference between the green pilot rolling 10+s all day and the elite pilot rolling 6s.  In "real life", I'd expect an elite pilot to know better when to cut this corner, how their machine is going to react to this surface, where they can find a blind spot for a second, and all around wring better performance out of their equipment.  That's simply not represented.

[Colt Ward]

Yeah, actually the fiction where he takes that Shadow Hawk IIC up against a Legionnaire drives that point home b/c he times the speed changes to throw off hits and performs a move that pushes his machine to the edge where it can exploit a weakness of the mech/pilot he is facing.

But still . . . it was a Firestarter . . . even our known light mech Khans piloted things that could do better- Aletha with the Fire Moths and Conner Rood with the Kit Fox though I thought he got something heavier later.

Which is why I suggested 6/9/6 movement profile . . . and a Vapor Eagle.

[wantec]

Yeah, actually the fiction where he takes that Shadow Hawk IIC up against a Legionnaire drives that point home b/c he times the speed changes to throw off hits and performs a move that pushes his machine to the edge where it can exploit a weakness of the mech/pilot he is facing.

But still . . . it was a Firestarter . . . even our known light mech Khans piloted things that could do better- Aletha with the Fire Moths and Conner Rood with the Kit Fox though I thought he got something heavier later.

Which is why I suggested 6/9/6 movement profile . . . and a Vapor Eagle.

Connor Rood later got a Linebacker that had been taken as salvage at some point. Being a proper Ice Hellion warrior he was disgusted at the sheer tonnage of his new 'Mech, the only saving grace was that it matched his old Kit Fox's speed.

[Kitsune413]

Top Gear displays that pretty well in real life Scotty with their test track. They put some amazing drivers on the track but the F1 drivers just pulverize them.

You also see it in mechwarrior online with tactical decisions and cover but in battletech the player is the one primarily responsible for running the numbers up.

[Kitsune413]

Hoping the Nova Cat returns home instead of belonging to the DC.

Would be really nice to get a lot of the non-avalanche mechs. Wendigo's are good. No ball lechs.

Cave Lions would be a nice return. I guess Tiburon Khanate knows how to build it.

Sphinx and Supernova would be good too.

[CJC070]

Hoping the Nova Cat returns home instead of belonging to the DC.

Would be really nice to get a lot of the non-avalanche mechs. Wendigo's are good. No ball lechs.

Cave Lions would be a nice return. I guess Tiburon Khanate knows how to build it.

Sphinx and Supernova would be good too.

Me thinks the DC burned all the bridges between them and the Nova Cats.  Hopefully they stay alive and strong in the iClan era.

[Kitsune413]

Yeah but a lot of their stuff was Tiburon khanate (should have been Fox khanate, but who knows.) Backed. Not supernova's. But theoretically they could set up production on Marik.

What is being built on Marik?

Edit: Planetlifters and Cheetahs apparently.

[Foxx Ital]

Hoping the Nova Cat returns home instead of belonging to the DC.

Would be really nice to get a lot of the non-avalanche mechs. Wendigo's are good. No ball lechs.

Cave Lions would be a nice return. I guess Tiburon Khanate knows how to build it.

Sphinx and Supernova would be good too.

  SPHINX!!

[Colt Ward]

A Cave Lion with Ferro-Lam instead of Reflec . . . it is interesting considering by initial description it was planned like a Clan Black Knight.

[Istal_Devalis]

Sphinxs would be nice, for sure. Maybe dust off the plans to make it a full Omni.

[Rncavenger]

Potential some future hints in Childrens of Kerensky:

Alarick said that as ilkhan he will be able to cancel Nova cat abjuration and wiling avenge their genoside

[Istal_Devalis]

SIGN ME UP!! Do you need the soul of my first born? Do I sign in blood? What?

[Rncavenger]

Another potential hints from new Tokayyid book:
Instead, Leroux’s decisions led to the ultimate downfall of the Nova Cats of old" p.99
 "of old"...

[Metallgewitter]

Another potential hints from new Tokayyid book:
Instead, Leroux’s decisions led to the ultimate downfall of the Nova Cats of old" p.99
 "of old"...

Well there are still the Spirit Cats and those Noca Cats that somehow managed to migrate to the clan protectorate. who lnows maybe they finally agreed to merge into a NEW Clan Nova Cat maybe making also the abjuration null and void because they are a "new" clan. Just like Vlad Ward dismissed the accusation of genocide when he reformed Clan wolf in 3057

[Rncavenger]

 Not only Clan Protectorate. I think Kisho and his band too find their safe place . It is simple - use world that allready was safe heaven for another clan . Welcome to Wayside 5 Kisho ;)) .

[Dragon Cat]

It would be interesting if in the ilClan era Alaric reversed the abjurnment creating a Nova Cat Galaxy specifically to use against the Combine.

That way the Protectorate isn't steamroller and becomes part of the ilClan which makes sense from the Wolf and Cat perspective

This unit is then joined by Kisho and co which sees the Nova Cats reborn still subservient to the ilClan but also its own entity

[Rncavenger]

 First nova cat's origins mech confirmed built in Clan Protectorate (Asellus Australis Alpha) and it is ... Shadow cat ;)

PS Kisho Nova Cat in Ilclan section of  Battletech: legends book ;)

[Dragon Cat]

Another notable pilot in the Valkyrie write up in Rec Guide 9 - Star Captain Maren Averitt - cool pilot would make an interesting book

[Colt Ward]

Another notable pilot in the Valkyrie write up in Rec Guide 9 - Star Captain Maren Averitt - cool pilot would make an interesting book

 You mean the Battletech version of Xenophon?

[Dragon Cat]

You mean the Battletech version of Xenophon?

When it comes to saving the last bits of the Clan I'll take it

[Rncavenger]

What happened to the Cats merchant fleet? In 3067 (FM:update) they have:
Lola III-class SLS Growler, SLS Ranger and
SLS Hunter, and twelve Carrack-class ships: SLS Far Star, SLS
Enlightened Path, SLS Nebula, SLS Glory Road, SLS Blessed
Vision, SLS Pathfinder, SLS Guiding Vision, SLS Bright Star and
SLS Faithful Rite

[Dragon Cat]

It got murdered in the Jihad many by "rogue" Combine units or traded to Sea Foxes for resources to build new factories during and after Jihad

[Rncavenger]

Dont find mention about this :'(

[rebs]

Jihad: Final Reckoning should have mentioned it.

[Dragon Cat]

Dont find mention about this :'(

In the various jihad books there's mentions of ship x y and z dying.  Probably not all of them but by the end of the Jihad the surviving Nova Cat ships were Republic ones as the Khan's sent the whole navy after wiping out most of the bear fleet in the Trial for the Leviathan II the bears were building honestly not a great move as it left the Cats at home vulnerable to attack

In I think the original pheonix project book it mentioned novs cats trading ships for factories

[Rncavenger]

In the various jihad books there's mentions of ship x y and z dying.  Probably not all of them but by the end of the Jihad the surviving Nova Cat ships were Republic ones as the Khan's sent the whole navy after wiping out most of the bear fleet in the Trial for the Leviathan II the bears were building honestly not a great move as it left the Cats at home vulnerable to attack

It is about warships fleet , not merchant )

[Rncavenger]

from Baatletech: Legends

Kisho escape wasnt last minute desision. He took whith him complete scientific and technical database, along with samples of entire Bloodname genetic legacy and thousands of Nova Cats
 Petr Kalasa participate in battle on Marik in 3147 and lost his Tiburon here

[Dragon Cat]

from Baatletech: Legends

Kisho escape wasnt last minute desision. He took whith him complete scientific and technical database, along with samples of entire Bloodname genetic legacy and thousands of Nova Cats
 Petr Kalasa participate in battle on Marik in 3147 and lost his Tiburon here

I haven't read it yet but

 :)

This is my reaction to that post

 :)

And will remain it

[Rncavenger]

 Find this   https://bg.battletech.com/forums/general-discussion/xtro-comstar-fm-3085-and-rs-prototypes/msg346073/#msg346073 (about merchant fleet) :

It is not a WarShip per say, so it is not included in the rolls of offensive weapons. Same with the Clan Merchant Carracks, they were removed because they should never had been included in the first place. But Clan Nova Cat does have some merchant Carracks left, even if they have no proper WarShips.
With regards, Øystein
— Øystein Tvedten, BattleTech Line Developer, 13 Jan 2012

[wolfgar]

frag i forgot i had an account here, hows it been guys

as to on subject, i was writing a story, (need to get back to it) that had the CP send a merc unit to pull all they could off of Irece before the DC struck.