Clan Protectorate

[Angrii]

Why do we think Kisho is coming back in the first place? It's possible he and his exiles skedaddled to the Periphery somewhere to live on their own terms much like the Fidelis did in their early days. I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to come back.

[Colt Ward]

Because he is a Legend of the ilClan era . . . basically means he has to do SOMETHING significant for that period, and the last confirmed time we saw him was in Dark Age . . . which is not where he was a Legend.

[Angrii]

And that something significant might take place outside the sphere. Just look at the Scorpion Empire; they've been coming up aces on the fringes.

[BrianDavion]

And that something significant might take place outside the sphere. Just look at the Scorpion Empire; they've been coming up aces on the fringes.

yeah but notice the scorpions didn't get any characters in legends? Battletech has always been pretty inner sphere centric.

[Flaresnake]

yeah but notice the scorpions didn't get any characters in legends? Battletech has always been pretty inner sphere centric.

That is true but such a waste of an interesting and unique location

[Istal_Devalis]

Why do we think Kisho is coming back in the first place? It's possible he and his exiles skedaddled to the Periphery somewhere to live on their own terms much like the Fidelis did in their early days. I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to come back.

Because they didnt have time to bring any other infrastructure with them, and unlike the Fidelis, dont have a major power service as their sugar daddy. They figuratively just had the clothes off their backs.

And honestly 'escaped in the nick of time with the genetic repository' is a pretty big plot hook what with the Protectorate right there.

[Geg]

We've got a RAT boys! It's not just two lines in the middle of the FWL table anymore.

I am a little bummed that the Protectorate RAT is so Clan TechBase heavy. 

I was hoping for some old Republic Tech or at least a some hold over smattering of FWLs IS Mechs.

[Colt Ward]

The Spirit Cats have had RATs, and FM3145 had a FWL sub-faction bit.  But by 3151, they have had nearly 10 years to be established and with the Foxes providing a lot of support to create Clan production . . . for a slice of that production too.

[Kitsune413]

I am a little bummed that the Protectorate RAT is so Clan TechBase heavy. 

I was hoping for some old Republic Tech or at least a some hold over smattering of FWLs IS Mechs.

Maybe a 3160 field manual will roll around with some third line clan forces for you. They'll have some solohma non-trueborn forces eventually...

If the wolves don't eat us.

[Rncavenger]

Maybe a 3160 field manual will roll around with some third line clan forces for you. They'll have some solohma non-trueborn forces eventually...

If the wolves don't eat us.

 Does Nova/Spirit Cats have a solahma? They are historically much more tolerant towards the old warriors than the rest of the clans.

[CJC070]

Maybe a 3160 field manual will roll around with some third line clan forces for you. They'll have some solohma non-trueborn forces eventually...

If the wolves don't eat us.

I think we will only see front and second line forces any more and it becomes overwhelming.

[jimdigris]

I don't think that they have the numbers to make the solahma distinction.

[Scotty]

If Tamar Rising and Empire Alone have taught us (or the Inner Sphere Clans) anything, it should definitely be to not underestimate an old man in a profession where men die young.

[Rncavenger]

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/battletech-legends-pandoras-gambit-by-randall-n-bills

A Rikkard mech with the Nova Cat emblem. Most likely a mistake, but it's funny considering the dispute about Spirit Cats.

[Colt Ward]

It is the Shadow Hawk IIC he used in that book . . . but TPTB switched him back to a Firestarter like he had in the beginning of MWDA.

[Kitsune413]

Why do we think Kisho is coming back in the first place? It's possible he and his exiles skedaddled to the Periphery somewhere to live on their own terms much like the Fidelis did in their early days. I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to come back.

That's where the clans came from. >.>

[Geg]

Because they didnt have time to bring any other infrastructure with them, and unlike the Fidelis, dont have a major power service as their sugar daddy. They figuratively just had the clothes off their backs.

And honestly 'escaped in the nick of time with the genetic repository' is a pretty big plot hook what with the Protectorate right there.

Petr Kalasa is playing the Devlin Stone role for the Spirit Cats.  The Spina Khanate / Sea Foxes as a whole have been pretty aggressive in terms of helping the Protectorate expand into a full blown Mircostate.   I feel like of all the known unknown plot hooks we have floating around for the current era that a plurality of them are swirling around the Protectorate.

[Rncavenger]

Petr Kalasa is playing the Devlin Stone role for the Spirit Cats.  The Spina Khanate / Sea Foxes as a whole have been pretty aggressive in terms of helping the Protectorate expand into a full blown Mircostate.   I feel like of all the known unknown plot hooks we have floating around for the current era that a plurality of them are swirling around the Protectorate.

Everything can be. Considering that we still know almost nothing about the internal affairs of the Clan Protectorate. However, every year there is less and less hope that when we find out about it. If it wasn't for Kisho Nova The Cat in Legends, I would have already thought that about Nova/Spirit Cats just prefer to forget.

[Guardian11]

One thing that seems to be indicated by the last lore page of Tamar Rising, the nabbing of all Comstar assets in the FWL, and the deal Petr Kalasa made with Othar in Redemption Rites; is that the Sea Foxes will be bringing online the HPG network and essentially be the new Comstar. If the Clans have the advantage of interstellar communications, that maybe enough of a barrel to put the FWL over that they agree to a deal negotiated by the Sea Foxes to join the Star League. The FWL as the first Great House to join the Star League would be somewhat poetic considering how integral a Marik was to the founding of the original Star League. 

[Metallgewitter]

One thing that seems to be indicated by the last lore page of Tamar Rising, the nabbing of all Comstar assets in the FWL, and the deal Petr Kalasa made with Othar in Redemption Rites; is that the Sea Foxes will be bringing online the HPG network and essentially be the new Comstar. If the Clans have the advantage of interstellar communications, that maybe enough of a barrel to put the FWL over that they agree to a deal negotiated by the Sea Foxes to join the Star League. The FWL as the first Great House to join the Star League would be somewhat poetic considering how integral a Marik was to the founding of the original Star League.

The question will be if the Foxes can keep it secret HOW they operate their HPG's and how they restored them. As Anastasius Focht so well said "a kick is usually more efficient then a prayer"  And what would keep the Free Worlds from simply seizing everything from the Foxes? The Clan Protectorate lies within the new League. Not exactly a secure place if you ask me especially since the beatings the Protectorate forces got from the other League units.

[Jellico]

The Protectorate is not the home of the Sea Foxes. They would regret the loss of investment, but it would be fatal.
OTOH the FWL nearly died the last time they annoyed the phone company while fighting against the neighbours who were still paying.

[Metallgewitter]

The Protectorate is not the home of the Sea Foxes. They would regret the loss of investment, but it would be fatal.
OTOH the FWL nearly died the last time they annoyed the phone company while fighting against the neighbours who were still paying.

Small difference though: that phone company had wormed itself into several branches of said goverment (even so far that BA production was only possible with said phone guys and let's not forget the systems installed on mayn Warships) and even had the secrets to pull the rug under from it's best leader. Does this apply to the Foxes at the moment?

[Jellico]

Not the Interdiction I was thinking of.

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Interdiction#The_Exclusion_of_the_Free_Worlds_League

[Colt Ward]

BA production might have started off requiring the phone company, but by the time they went on their rampage it no longer applied.

[Rncavenger]

 A new special unit of the Clan Protectorate in Shrapnel 10 unit digest section!  :thumbsup: And it's commander is Kara Fletcher from Dark age clickgame :)
 There is also a minor spoiler for the upcoming war between the League and the Wolves. It seems that the Beta Striker cluster will not survive this war.

[Colt Ward]

Well, the Scorchers were her unit in that too . . . just shows they were part of the Spirit Cats that made it out.  IIRC, she actually was a Republic Horse.

[Geg]

A new special unit of the Clan Protectorate in Shrapnel 10 unit digest section!  :thumbsup: And it's commander is Kara Fletcher from Dark age clickgame :)
 There is also a minor spoiler for the upcoming war between the League and the Wolves. It seems that the Beta Striker cluster will not survive this war.

The Beta Strike Cluster doesn't seam to be living up to expectations of the ristars that lead it.

Well, the Scorchers were her unit in that too . . . just shows they were part of the Spirit Cats that made it out.  IIRC, she actually was a Republic Horse.

It would have been the forces with Rosse in I, II, and III that joined up with Kishu for certain doom against the combine right?  I would have expected most of the Rimward units to make their way over to Rikkard sooner or later.

I still find it weird to read Galaxy Commander rather than Star Commander Rikkard Nova Cat.

[Church14]

One thing that seems to be indicated by the last lore page of Tamar Rising, the nabbing of all Comstar assets in the FWL, and the deal Petr Kalasa made with Othar in Redemption Rites; is that the Sea Foxes will be bringing online the HPG network and essentially be the new Comstar. If the Clans have the advantage of interstellar communications, that maybe enough of a barrel to put the FWL over that they agree to a deal negotiated by the Sea Foxes to join the Star League. The FWL as the first Great House to join the Star League would be somewhat poetic considering how integral a Marik was to the founding of the original Star League.

I’m not sure how any of that works.
- The end of EA is the FWL declares war and starts the first moves to attack the Empire. Not exactly ready to join
- FWL is used to no HPG. Being denied that isn’t gonna stop them now. It would provide an advantage for the Empire on defense though.
- Speaking of. The Empire has 10 clusters and a Keshik to defend with and has had several of those mangled, including the Keshik. So unless the Foxes want to put their own asses on the line as shock troops for Alaric, who’s bending the FWL over the barrel?
- I don’t see Spirit Cats betraying the one group that’s treated them well in the last century because… ilClan? I dunno what the sales pitch is.

We also saw Alaric reject Rasalhague Dominion for not being 100% in favor of joining. It looks like he wants a big pure clan league What’s different that he would take the deal with FWL?

There’s always room for me to be wrong. I just don’t see how FWL goes from putting boot to Wolf Empire neck to joining Alaric’s faux league in a short time period.

[Geg]

- I don’t see Spirit Cats betraying the one group that’s treated them well in the last century because… ilClan? I dunno what the sales pitch is.

The Spirit Cats are divided on the issues.   the 1st Provisional and the Beta Cluster both went off to fight for the ilClan on their own.   If Beta gets mauled on New Olympia, which is right next door to Atreus,  I don't see them getting mauled fighting for Jessica.

[tassa_kay]

I don't see them getting mauled fighting for Jessica.

I'd certainly hope not, considering that Jessica's dead.