Chinese names in BT

[NeonKnight]

should be organized in Alliterative verse format, and utilize more heiti and Kennings
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/onp/index.htm

:)

And there you have it.

One person tries to do something a little different, and another will come along and tell them how it should have been done. ;)

Or:

https://www.universallearningacademy.com/the-man-the-boy-and-the-donkey/

[Feenix74]

There are certain phrases and pronunciations in Japanese that resemble Cantonese pronunciations.  One explanation is that Japanese absorbed this vocabulary and pronunciation from Tang dynasty China, and Cantonese similarly is descended from that period too, explaining why for example Tang poems still rhyme in spoken Cantonese but no longer rhyme in spoken Mandarin.

And it now it happens in all directions in our modern globalised world, for example

Japanese: カラオケ

English: Karaoke (which I understand is a phonetic translation of the Japanese characters)

Chinese: 卡拉OK (in Traditional Chinese script) or 卡拉OK (in Simplified Chinese script) or Kǎlā OK (in pinyin) (and yes that is the english/latin alphabet letters of "O" and "K" in the chinese word for karaoke).

[NeonKnight]

And it now it happens in all directions in our modern globalised world, for example

Japanese: カラオケ

English: Karaoke (which I understand is a phonetic translation of the Japanese characters)

Chinese: 卡拉OK (in Traditional Chinese script) or 卡拉OK (in Simplified Chinese script) or Kǎlā OK (in pinyin) (and yes that is the english/latin alphabet letters of "O" and "K" in the chinese word for karaoke).

And in Korean it's 노래방 (Noraebang/nolaebang) or literally in English, Singing Room ;)

[worktroll]

Nolaebang seems an entirely appropriate term for karaoke.

[NeonKnight]

Nolaebang seems an entirely appropriate term for karaoke.

Yeah, I don't know what Karaoke is in English beyond, well, Karaoke.

But 노래방, or Noraebang, is as I said, Singing Room (노래 - Singing, and 방 being Room).

When I went to korea before Marrying, I would often spend a couple of hours waiting while my wife was in class at one of the many: 비디오방, or (phonetically) a Pidiobang, which if you say it fast you can easily translate yourself knowing that Bang = Room.

비디오 is Pi-di-o or...Video.

Which is something that one never saw in north America. You and a bunch of your young friends want to get together and hang and watch a DVD or video, North American's would head to the local BlockBuster and rent the videos and take them home. In Korea, while they had those sort of places, they also had lots of 비디오방/Video Rooms, where, you would rent a video, they put it in a machine (DVD player/VCR) and direct you to one of the various rooms which had some chairs, couch, etc and a TV to watch it on.

Was really interesting.

[MadCapellan]

Yeah, I don't know what Karaoke is in English beyond, well, Karaoke.

Carey-Okie.

[NeonKnight]

Carey-Okie.

I meant translation. As i said above the Korean is literally 'Singing Room'.  :P

[MadCapellan]

Karaoke is a Japanese compound-abbreviation of kara okesutora, or "empty orchestra".  There's really no English for it other than karaoke, it's a Japanese invention.

[Kidd]

The word typically used for story in Japanese is 物語 - monogatari. My Japanese is very basic, but I'm not aware of kucha being used as a word for story.

Really? Well heck that again illustrates the folly of hearing about such things from non-native speakers.

[SteelRaven]

Karaoke is a Japanese compound-abbreviation of kara okesutora, or "empty orchestra".  There's really no English for it other than karaoke, it's a Japanese invention.

Someone told me it was a joke, the closes English equivalent being tone deaf. Kara can also mean 'void' like your missing allot of notes.

[Dubble_g]

Really? Well heck that again illustrates the folly of hearing about such things from non-native speakers.

Can confirm, "kucha" is not a Japanese word.

Possible translations for story:
ストーリー　suto-ri-: Story in the sense of a "narrative" or "story line." Gets back to the key point that one major element for realistic linguistic drift is contact with other languages
物語　monogatari: as suggested this works, but sounds a little archaic, story in the sense of a "tale" or "chronicle"
話し　hanashi: a spoken story, as in "cool story, bro"
小説　shosetsu: a novel
記事　kiji: a newspaper story or article

[Feenix74]

Karaoke is a Japanese compound-abbreviation of kara okesutora, or "empty orchestra".  There's really no English for it other than karaoke, it's a Japanese invention.

I had read previously that "empty orchestra" is the literal translation of karaoke.

謝謝您 / xiè xiè nín (thank you) for confirming this for me and providing the full derivation of the word karaoke.

[Feenix74]

Some of the "linguistic drift" can also be because of situations like this: http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/nitv-news/article/2017/09/14/crazy-name-melbourne-winery-has-people-hysterics

[StoneRhino]

Karaoke is a Japanese compound-abbreviation of kara okesutora, or "empty orchestra".  There's really no English for it other than karaoke, it's a Japanese invention.

What will our Japanese friends think of next? :o