Author Topic: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question  (Read 2709 times)

BrianDavion

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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #30 on: 10 April 2024, 17:43:17 »
If they want to "rebuild for Taurian pride", upgraded Talosi would be better choices than SLDF-descended designs. Just retool the medium production lines.

sure but why bother? by this point those 55 tonners have served with distinction for centuries, and are, arguably, better designs.
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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #31 on: 10 April 2024, 22:19:22 »
The easy availability of the Centurion also makes a refitted Talos a hard sell.  The Taurians build Shadow Hawks, Griffins, Marshals, Clints, and Phoenix Hawks, and also have access to Starslayers and more mediums (and I assume either they or the Calderon Protectorate are rhe source of all of the Hatchetman 5S that suddenly appeared everywhere in the Periphery, because Steiner and Davion have moved onto other variants.)  If they want an Omni Talso, the Avalance would be the best start to draw from, since it has Endo Steel and no expensive engine tech. I'll see what I can come up with over in the Fan Design forum. I do know the popular BTA 3062 mod for HBS Battletech has an upgraded Talos in it.

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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #32 on: 13 April 2024, 09:52:24 »
sure but why bother? by this point those 55 tonners have served with distinction for centuries, and are, arguably, better designs.

It's just an "if". The current Taurian regime does want to appeal to nationalistic fervour

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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #33 on: 02 May 2024, 14:12:15 »
For Nationalism, a Talos 2 would be a great tool.
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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #34 on: 03 May 2024, 10:07:26 »
They would be proud to see Talosi serving with Toros in homogenous units once again

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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #35 on: 19 May 2024, 17:54:25 »
am I the only one who thinks the talos and Uller are weirdly simmilar

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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #36 on: 22 May 2024, 14:54:13 »
The original Periphery book had the Taurians making the Griffin and the Hatchetman.  With all the retcon, that was a Comstar mistake stuff it would be easy to replace those lines.  The Griffin could become the Toros, almost the same mech, just smaller and supposedly mass produced by the Taurians.  The Talos could easily be called a mistaken Hatchetman line, 5 tons size difference, AC 10 as main weapon for both.   

The Magistracy has a similar problem.  They finally get around to producing the Calliope and Penthesilea but they could have done that as down tech versions centuries earlier.  The Calliope could use the Hermes II chassis and a large laser, SRM 4 and LRM 5 in place of its 3050 weapon array.  The Penthesilea could just have weapons downgraded and a slower move.  That would have given them the three bugs, a fast 40 tonner, the Shadowhawk and a 75 ton Penthesilea.

The Capellans would have benefitted from just adding the Thunderbolt and Battlemaster lines since they are said to love them, have many and want more.  The Firebee line getting resurrected would have been perfect for their lighter forces.  Seriously, a 35 tonner with a large laser and 4 SRM 2's.  Not just retconning was a mistake. 

Anyone think the Draconis Gladiator was a great mech?  How about the Lyran Crossbow (fast LRM boat with a back up PPC) and the Ymir?  Anyone wonder why no Longbow lines survived?  Even though 4, IIRC, houses built it.  How did the Combine never redesign the Charger into the Hatamoto Chi centuries before they did.

So many missed opportunities.  Probably something like, screw the Succession Wars, we have clans coming just sweep it under the rug.
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Re: The Missed Opportunity: Talos Battlemech Question
« Reply #37 on: 22 May 2024, 20:32:29 »
They updated the production lines in one of the later Periphery books so that the Taurians could produce the Griffin and the Hatchetman. They produce their own variant of the Griffin by 3083, and the Hatchetman lines were working until they were destroyed by Hansen's Roughriders. 

 

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