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Clan Chatterweb / Re: Giftake sibkos expected to excel?
« Last post by The Wobbly Guy on Today at 07:25:15 »Epigenetics? Although not well understood, there could be a smidgen of fact in there.
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The Inner Sphere / Re: Political instability in the Capellan Confederation?
« Last post by tassa_kay on Today at 06:45:42 »The Capellans preserved their manpowerr before the Jihad by nuking first and ask questions later. Not exactly the best way to prepare for future fights.
You're missing the point entirely. The Capellans were able to squirrel away more of their pre-Republic war material because they didn't work with Stone, who we know sent forces into the other Houses to ensure they were complying with the drawdowns.
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Also I would say loosing the planet Liao which was NOT a Republic possesion after the Jihad does sound rather humiliating. And they lost their Crusade against a then weakened Republic when one old Mechwarrior who was already dying wrecked havoc behind the lines. Heck it nearly cost Sun Tzu his one heir.
And again: Sun-Tzu being a shrewd political leader (unequivocally true) and Sun-Tzu unable to defeat the Republic (also true) aren't mutually exclusive concepts. Clever/shrewd people can still lose, and it doesn't take those qualities away from them when they do.
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Though I agree it made the Confederation stronger in the end but without Gray Monday we will never know how a 3rd round would have looked like. Then again the Republic had drawn down their military so much it might have been more leaning in the Confederations favor.
Irrelevant, since it didn't happen.
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But who is to say the Confederation will come out alive in the end? The Star League needs it's bogeyman and the Capellans are the perfect target
Also irrelevant, since Sun-Tzu is dead.
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Clan Chatterweb / Re: Giftake sibkos expected to excel?
« Last post by Gaiiten on Today at 06:33:24 »IMHO the point is how the Warrior died.
If it was a glorious death while killing scores of enemies and the Clan being victorious against all odd because this warrior`s actions, this would be this warrior`s peak / most excellent performance. The warrior`s giftake is matured at its best.
And so given the Clans view of genetics sibkos bred with this giftake should excel, either.
If it was a glorious death while killing scores of enemies and the Clan being victorious against all odd because this warrior`s actions, this would be this warrior`s peak / most excellent performance. The warrior`s giftake is matured at its best.
And so given the Clans view of genetics sibkos bred with this giftake should excel, either.
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Clan Chatterweb / Re: Giftake sibkos expected to excel?
« Last post by AlphaMirage on Today at 06:13:52 »I think it fits within the Clans' pseudo-religious/cultish love of genetics and Warrior honor. Perhaps gifttake cadets are pushed harder by their trainers or push themselves further due to the implication that they have the blood of a 'successful' Warrior flowing through their veins. and thus can manage it Motivation can be a powerful thing and a gifttake cadet could be seen as living the true 'legacy' of their ancestor.
Although now I think I might put that into my fiction now since my Diana Pryde was created from a gifttake by Peri.
Although now I think I might put that into my fiction now since my Diana Pryde was created from a gifttake by Peri.
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Clan Chatterweb / Giftake sibkos expected to excel?
« Last post by Alan Grant on Today at 05:52:40 »I have several stories from the BattleCorps site and I was rereading one of them, "Seeds of Loyalty" by Philip Lee.
Without giving too much away, it is about a Clan Cloud Cobra Star Colonel and his Coyote bondsman circa 2954. The story got incorporated into the fluff on the Pella ASF in TRO: Golden Century. Right after the former Coyote pilot was captured, he is presented to the Star Colonel Samson Izumi, Samson is clearly sizing up the bondsman Tomas Masino and says:
"Your codex says you were bred from a giftake sample from Star Colonel Alejandra Masino, killed in action during a minor territorial dispute here on Homer in 2926," Samson said, letting the idea hang in the air. Giftake sibkos were always expected to excel, even if they came from lesser bloodlines.
The statement is sort of a jab at the new bondsman intended to get a defensive response and reveal more of the bondsman's personality. He's already thinking about how best to integrate the bondsman into the Cobras. What interests me is this idea of giftake sibkos being expected to excel. I can't recall ever seeing that anywhere else before. I'm wondering if that has been presented before, in novels or sourcebooks.
It's an interesting thought to me, because honestly, I've never understood the giftake thing. The Clan has the genetic profile, and presumably genetic samples, of their trueborn warriors. The giftake never seemed to have a point. I long ago assumed that collecting a giftake and taking it to a genetic repository or blood chapel was more like a funeral/memorial ritual and tradition with little to no practical value.
This seems to differ from that. This portrayal of that concept would suggest to the Clans it does have a practical value. Yet it still also has an air of superstition. After all, a genetic sample is just a genetic sample. I feel like what is being implied here is that the DNA collected just after a successful warrior died is somehow superior to that older sample of DNA.
Thoughts on this? Has it ever been presented this way anywhere else when the topic of giftakes has come up?
Without giving too much away, it is about a Clan Cloud Cobra Star Colonel and his Coyote bondsman circa 2954. The story got incorporated into the fluff on the Pella ASF in TRO: Golden Century. Right after the former Coyote pilot was captured, he is presented to the Star Colonel Samson Izumi, Samson is clearly sizing up the bondsman Tomas Masino and says:
"Your codex says you were bred from a giftake sample from Star Colonel Alejandra Masino, killed in action during a minor territorial dispute here on Homer in 2926," Samson said, letting the idea hang in the air. Giftake sibkos were always expected to excel, even if they came from lesser bloodlines.
The statement is sort of a jab at the new bondsman intended to get a defensive response and reveal more of the bondsman's personality. He's already thinking about how best to integrate the bondsman into the Cobras. What interests me is this idea of giftake sibkos being expected to excel. I can't recall ever seeing that anywhere else before. I'm wondering if that has been presented before, in novels or sourcebooks.
It's an interesting thought to me, because honestly, I've never understood the giftake thing. The Clan has the genetic profile, and presumably genetic samples, of their trueborn warriors. The giftake never seemed to have a point. I long ago assumed that collecting a giftake and taking it to a genetic repository or blood chapel was more like a funeral/memorial ritual and tradition with little to no practical value.
This seems to differ from that. This portrayal of that concept would suggest to the Clans it does have a practical value. Yet it still also has an air of superstition. After all, a genetic sample is just a genetic sample. I feel like what is being implied here is that the DNA collected just after a successful warrior died is somehow superior to that older sample of DNA.
Thoughts on this? Has it ever been presented this way anywhere else when the topic of giftakes has come up?
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The Inner Sphere / Re: Political instability in the Capellan Confederation?
« Last post by Metallgewitter on Today at 05:51:24 »The Capellans preserved their manpowerr before the Jihad by nuking first and ask questions later. Not exactly the best way to prepare for future fights. Also I would say loosing the planet Liao which was NOT a Republic possesion after the Jihad does sound rather humiliating. And they lost their Crusade against a then weakened Republic when one old Mechwarrior who was already dying wrecked havoc behind the lines. Heck it nearly cost Sun Tzu his one heir. Though I agree it made the Confederation stronger in the end but without Gray Monday we will never know how a 3rd round would have looked like. Then again the Republic had drawn down their military so much it might have been more leaning in the Confederations favor. But who is to say the Confederation will come out alive in the end? The Star League needs it's bogeyman and the Capellans are the perfect target
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Off Topic / Re: Aviation Pictures: A-Seven-th Thread--CorsAirin' Through Time and Airspace
« Last post by worktroll on Today at 05:50:07 »Had to include this:
Which it survived with only minor damage. Built in Germany as part of reparations from WW1, the ZR3 was the only US Navy rigid airship to survive without 'catastrophic incident', being dismantled in 1939.
Which it survived with only minor damage. Built in Germany as part of reparations from WW1, the ZR3 was the only US Navy rigid airship to survive without 'catastrophic incident', being dismantled in 1939.
