Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?

[Wrangler]

It's Halloween (as of this posting) it's Doctor related.  Goes well with the name of our thread.



As the note, the Tardas is being played by 1980s Mac Computer.  ;D

[gyedid]

SPIDERS! Why did it have to be SPIDERS?!?!?!?!?!?

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Ruger

Did anyone else get the feeling this episode was a bit of a throwback to the Pertwee era?  I'm thinking "The Green Death" in particular.

Cheers,

Gabe

[grimlock1]

Did anyone else get the feeling this episode was a bit of a throwback to the Pertwee era?  I'm thinking "The Green Death" in particular.

Cheers,

Gabe

Not sure about the throwback, but I did find the Doctor's no-gun attitude to be almost out of place in the final resolution.  The giant spider was slowly suffocating because she grew too big.  No fix was mentioned, suggesting that the only option was to allow the creature to die a natural death.  By suffocation.

And all the other spiders would presumably suffer the same slow death in the not-Trump's panic room.

Okay, I'll accept her no-gun policy, but leaving the spiders to a slow death when they've acted without malice seems cruel.

[Wrangler]

Doctor has always been a no-guns character except under extreme circumstances. The 12th Doctor used gun on the General for as example, then there was the forgotten War Doctor.

I do think pushing no gun thing is getting little annoying.

[Ruger]

Doctor has always been a no-guns character except under extreme circumstances. The 12th Doctor used gun on the General for as example, then there was the forgotten War Doctor.

I do think pushing no gun thing is getting little annoying.

The 10.5 Doctor in his last outing also ended up using one and it nearly looked like he would use it either on Rassilon or on the Master, but he managed to find a better way...

In other news, I managed to find three more original series serials at a used book store on a trip I had to make between yesterday and today so I now have "The Seeds of Death" (now only need one serial, his last one, to have what is currently available of the original run of Patrick Troughton's Second Doctor...also need The Two Doctors to have all of his on screen adventures), "Horror of Fang Rock" (only a dozen more Tom Baker adventures to go!), and "Castrovalva" to enjoy over the next few days...

Ruger

[gyedid]

Doctor has always been a no-guns character except under extreme circumstances. The 12th Doctor used gun on the General for as example, then there was the forgotten War Doctor.

I do think pushing no gun thing is getting little annoying.

And don't forget the Sixth Doctor taking the lead to the Cyber Controller.  But he was psycho anyway.

Cheers, Gabe

[ClarkeMarek]

Did anyone else get the feeling this episode was a bit of a throwback to the Pertwee era?  I'm thinking "The Green Death" in particular.

Cheers,

Gabe

Kind of felt it.

Not sure about the throwback, but I did find the Doctor's no-gun attitude to be almost out of place in the final resolution.  The giant spider was slowly suffocating because she grew too big.  No fix was mentioned, suggesting that the only option was to allow the creature to die a natural death.  By suffocation.

And all the other spiders would presumably suffer the same slow death in the not-Trump's panic room.

Okay, I'll accept her no-gun policy, but leaving the spiders to a slow death when they've acted without malice seems cruel.

I kind of let the decision slide, as it was in character for her.  Though now that I think about it, she may have had something else planned had the mercy kill not happened.

Doctor has always been a no-guns character except under extreme circumstances. The 12th Doctor used gun on the General for as example, then there was the forgotten War Doctor.

I do think pushing no gun thing is getting little annoying.

I think in the case of the General, he used the gun, knowing it was set to "kill," under the condition that he knew the General was going to regenerate.  If it had been the last incarnation, the Doctor might not have pulled the trigger.

[grimlock1]

I kind of let the decision slide, as it was in character for her.  Though now that I think about it, she may have had something else planned had the mercy kill not happened.

I think in the case of the General, he used the gun, knowing it was set to "kill," under the condition that he knew the General was going to regenerate.  If it had been the last incarnation, the Doctor might not have pulled the trigger.

Didn't he say something like, "Death is like man-flu for Time Lords"?

If I had to guess, she had something in mind for addressing the spiders, but that's based on knowing who the Doctor is  and what....

Idle, but serious question:  which pronoun is correct when discussing a trans woman's actions from before their transition?

Anyway, I base the aforementioned guess on knowing the Doctor's MO and history.  On the other hand 11 was about to lobotomize the space whale to end its pain and save the colony ship in its back. The Doctor is no stranger to violence, or killing, or mercy.  The War Doctor was prepared to whip out two races to spare the rest of space and time.

Robertson pulled the trigger out of hate and fear and ego. I won't say that he did the right thing for the wrong reasons, but maybe he did the "least bad thing" for the wrong reasons.

Maybe there was something that got left on the editing room floor that would have fleshed this out and addressed the ones trapped in the panic room.

[gyedid]

Idle, but serious question:  which pronoun is correct when discussing a trans woman's actions from before their transition?

Hmm...in the case of the Doctor, since we DO have 13 previous bodies and personalities to consider (even though they were all male), I think they/their/them are appropriate.  Otherwise you have to start making stuff up IMO.

Maybe there was something that got left on the editing room floor that would have fleshed this out and addressed the ones trapped in the panic room.

What about the ones that had already gotten into the city?

cheers,

Gabe

[gyedid]

So...nobody had opinions about the space gremlin from Hell...?

Cheers, Gabe

[ClarkeMarek]

So...nobody had opinions about the space gremlin from Hell...?

Cheers, Gabe

You kidding?  He was a cute little *******.  :)   :thumbsup:  And clever solution for getting rid of him.

BTW, thanks for the reminder:  Is it me, or is her Sonic Screwdriver shorting out a lot more frequently?

[monbvol]

It is improvised.

[ANS Kamas P81]

The War Doctor was prepared to whip out two races to spare the rest of space and time.

IIRC the War Doctor did.  (It didn't stick)  The prepared-to was wiping out Gallifrey as well, which was changed to locking it away.

[Elmoth]

Question: Is the new doctor better than Capaldi? For reference, I loved Tennant and Smith was OK, but couldn't stand Capaldi.

[Jaim Magnus]

I'm enjoying her portrayal so far. Shades of early, joyful Tennant, before the 10th got all depressed. Writing has been a touch weak, but with a couple of very good episodes. I think they're allowing the on the fence fans a chance to get used to a female doctor.

[gyedid]

Well, another episode with socio-political overtones that make commenting here difficult.

I will say:
--is this the first time since "Father's Day" that we've had an episode that delved so deeply into a particular companion's past?  (Indeed, before Yaz was even born...)
--the Vajarians seem to do basically the same sort of work as Testimony.  And their appearance effect looked a lot like Apparating in the Harry Potter films.
--I was looking at pictures of ancient Indian art and sculptures today, to see if there wasn't something in old Indian mythology that resembles the Vajarians i.e. some kind of spirit that appears as a harbinger of impending death.
--I'm glad the writer decided not to go the wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey route with Yaz's grandmother having met her e.g. dropping some comment right at the end about "I knew someone who looked so much like you when I was still in India..." etc.
--I really wonder whether the story isn't in some sense autobiographical for the scriptwriter, inspired by events in his/her own family's past.  It's also not hard to imagine that it's meant as a commentary on the current situation in India.

cheers,

Gabe

[gyedid]

FYI, Blogtor Who has posted this primer concerning the historical background for "Demons of the Punjab"

https://www.blogtorwho.com/doctor-who-the-reality-behind-demons-of-the-punjab/

Cheers, Gabe

[Sartris]

The last two episodes have used my favorite two kinds of of dr who aliens - a semi-sentient threat that can’t be defeated by run of the mill trickery, and apparent adversaries that are misunderstood.

In historical settings, I’m uncomfortable with inserting an element into human agency that deflects from man-made tragedy so I’m glad the Vajarians were not used in that capacity

[ClarkeMarek]

Just saw a promo for the next episode.  That fez 11 ordered about several years ago?  Finally showed up.  :thumbsup: :)

[Wrangler]

She doesn't strike me as being a Fezz wearing sort of person.

[ClarkeMarek]

She doesn't strike me as being a Fezz wearing sort of person.

The fez looked good on her.  Well, OK, the fez looked better on 10 and 11.  Be like putting the scarf on 12, I suppose.  Still, wasn't bad.

[Wrangler]

Hmm...in the case of the Doctor, since we DO have 13 previous bodies and personalities to consider (even though they were all male), I think they/their/them are appropriate.  Otherwise you have to start making stuff up IMO.

During the spider story, the Doctor had mentioned she was woman before. Which makes me wonder if the writers was just making it sound like she bit confused about the origin or their...remaking past for the doctor.  My wife thought the doctor inhabits people vs their own body.  My canon-head says its just throwaway random jabber.  She barely....weeks in living in her body now.  The original Doctor seem to be have been only a man most his first generation's life, at least in the last Christmas special with Peter in it.

[gyedid]

The fez looked good on her.  Well, OK, the fez looked better on 10 and 11.  Be like putting the scarf on 12, I suppose.  Still, wasn't bad.

Well she did ask, "is this still me?". Should've followed it up with " I used to think these were cool... "

Not much discussion of the last episode.  Who exactly was the villain supposed to be? 

I thought this was the most old-school feeling episode so far.  More of the Tennant/early Smith era feel, but also a pretty big nod to "The Robots of Death", IMO.

Cheers, Gabe

[gyedid]

Forgot to add:  explosive bubblewrap.  You would think that would be an Auton thing...

Cheers, Gabe

[ClarkeMarek]

Forgot to add:  explosive bubblewrap.  You would think that would be an Auton thing...

Cheers, Gabe

Just one more thing Doctor Who has made me scared of.  :o

[Robroy]

I am still on the fence with this Doctor, but that is normal for me and a new Doctor. She is good, I think it is the writing that needs to step up.

I am only three episodes in, just finished Rosa. Kept hoping they would at least mention Claudette Colvin.

[Elmoth]

Just one more thing Doctor Who has made me scared of.  :o

Barcelona is FULL of sculptures hiding their faces. I walk fast past them.

[Ruger]

"Oh. Well, it's obvious when you put it like that."

 ;D

Ruger

[Wrangler]

That's funny.  I just watched video (i haven't seen latest episode yet) about as 9th Doctor was talking to Rose, he was going take her to Barcelona.

[00Dawg]

I’ve given it a go, but I’m struggling to keep interest.  Capaldi wasn’t great every time out, but he had some great episodes....I stuck around and found enough to keep me going.

So far,  I’ve found this season’s to just be mostly bad.  Some of it has been the increased asking need for absolute political correctness, and some of it the need to keep having the new gender be a repetitive storyline, but in general I think it’s just been bad writing, and an actress that’s trying to incorporate the wrong parts of past doctors into her portrayal.  It feels like she’s trying to be a mish-mash of recent versions with a hefty dose of reversing gender stereotypes.  Having a team instead of only one companion has been a nice upshot, but it’s not enough to keep me intrigued.