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Cripples of BT, need some serious help.
« on: 13 October 2023, 01:43:10 »
First of all, I want to apologize if this is a bit heavy for the normal forum content, but I have a hard enough time asking for help on stuff like this, and I'd rather it be with our little community where everyone more or less knows everyone.

Earlier this year, I badly injured my knee at work. There were concerns that it might be a permanent injury, but there was some hope that it might be able to heal. That hope was really what was carrying me these past few months. Unfortunately, this week, I got news that it's no good. My only option left is surgery, and even then I'm staring down the barrel of what might be the lesser of two evils.

Now, I'm less than a month shy of 25, and while I'm not a very sporty person, I've always tried to stay active. Even just theorycrafting builds has often been a project done while pacing around the house with a book in hand, doing laps for hours while I weight options. I enjoyed coming home and playing chicken with the neighbors' dog, and I was hoping one day, if an when I have a kid of my own, I'd be able to teach them how to swim and ride a bike.

Now I'm breaking down every few hours constantly being reminded of things I might never be able to do again, and it hurts like nothing I've ever felt before. I'm not here for sympathy or well wishes, I really need to know, if there's anyone here who's gone through this, how did you cope with having all those doors close on you at the same time? What the hell am I supposed to do now that I'm pigeonholed into only doing things that aren't physically-intensive?
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« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2023, 05:16:29 »
I had a co-worker who had chronic knee problems.  After she finally decided to go with surgery, she's been in MUCH better shape.  Maybe not 100% where she was before, but light years ahead of where she was while her knee was a problem.  Short form: don't give up hope!

Also, short of knee replacement, PRP might be an option.  It's definitely one of those "ask your doctor" things.

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« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2023, 16:30:11 »
I have a broken-neck, from a toddler-injury that left my neck-bones fused together as one.  The doctors said I'd always have terrible stiff-necks, that last for months. Then, I found out if I just go swimming, the stiff-necks go away and as long as I remain active, I've never had a stiff-neck like those, ever again in decades.

So, I suggest swimming.

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« Reply #4 on: 14 October 2023, 00:02:56 »
Get the surgery. My grandfather had a full knee replacement at 70. After years of pain, he could walk again with no problems. At 25, you'll heal a lot faster than he did.

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« Reply #5 on: 14 October 2023, 05:53:17 »
My stepdad had knee replacement.  He put it off for years and suffered through the pain.  But he had it finally and he told me himself that he wishes he had done it 20 years ago.  And he is totally the kind of guy who more or less does not like admitting that he was wrong. 

So please take this in the spirit that I mean it in - get the surgery.   Recovery is a pain, but you will be so glad you took the jump.

And I'm not exactly crippled currently, just hobbled.  I have a bunyon that is scheduled to be removed in November.  It's all set and it will be done.  Recovery for that is said to be a bee-otch as well, as the doc has to more or less scrape it off of the bone and the joint.  It's like having my big toe severed and reattached. 

I made the decision, you can too!  A knee is worse than a big toe!  Just do it and let us know how it goes.
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« Reply #6 on: 14 October 2023, 08:03:51 »
as folks here had said go with surgery...
rehab will be a pain in rear posterior but dont skip it no matter what.
this goes about 30 years my friend got hurt on the job he got his leg trapped between two pallets because the operator was drunk...his knee broke so badly his foot was on backwards took him 4 months after surgery to get almost full mobility and ability run. and as prospernia said swimming is good activity to recover which my friend had done

so if you get surgery do not skip any rehab after
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« Reply #7 on: 14 October 2023, 10:02:45 »
Dads had problems all his life stemming from a head on collision forty five years ago.

One piece of advice I’ll state is: your body does take time to heal after surgery and/or other procedures (steroid injections and the like). If you do start to feel better after them DO NOT immediately go and resume ‘normal’ activities. Ease your way back into things. My dad did a stupid after one surgery and went and played golf and completely messed himself up ‘because he felt like a million percent’. Now he knows to take a break and rest even if he’s feeling well. Personally thought I would still recommend surgery cause what’s offered today is better than what used to be offered.

However in regards to the original question: as a nerd we are unique in that most of our hobbies are not physical in a major regard. Books and video games can still be an outlet into these passions. Now the way you described your ‘process and hobby’ sounds to me you really like being active mentally and physically which obviously is a problem: one thing I could recommend is researching how others have adapted online (an extreme example being Paralympic athletes). The best part about the internet is that the information is out there.

Now not gonna lie, from everything my dad has told me, it’s gonna be tough. But people out there can and will help (obviously a lot better than my own advice). I’ve got a bunch of dark humor from my dad if you want it. But I will say good luck, and we (as an online community) will try and help if we can, even if it’s only with words.

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« Reply #8 on: 14 October 2023, 11:21:41 »
A long time ago, a different lifetime, really, I was severely injured, breaking my leg completely in half to the extent I got the joy of seeing the bottom of my foot whilst hanging upside down sixty feet in the air. There was talk of losing the lower leg completely, or of never walking properly again.

I remember quite clearly that a day after the surgery, which involved numerous rods, pins, and screws, I told the nurse I had to use the bathroom. She kindly told me it was down the hall and then went about her business. I managed to find it and went on to about a year of rehabilitation which included further challenges that others have alluded to. Eventually I was able to walk, but it was certainly a low point in my life, socially, emotionally, and physically.

Later, I went to an appointment to get my new profession back on track and had to hop up the stairs for the intake; whereupon the staff there literally laughed nervously when i came in the door. Soon, though, a kindly older supervisor took me aside and informed me that the only way i would make it into the program was to endure further surgery to remove the metal in my leg.

This was not an option for me, after what I had gone through. So, that particular dream did not work out for me. But I went forward with the basic plan and got to do things that many others in my field never would have had the general opportunities to do in aggregate, to meet the people that were met, to see the things that were seen. Eventually I was running five-minute miles and carrying fifty kilos of gear over ridiculous places and distances--even though to this day I cannot "take a knee" on the leg that was injured. Life works in funny ways, and opportunities abound for those lucky enough to get them and take the chance when they avail themselves.

Much more recently, I received an injury that was life threatening and threatened the retention let alone use of my right hand. This is a problem for someone with a family, that works in a physical and technical field, and that likes to write as a hobby-and maybe-one-day-profession. It is still an ongoing process, but the situation has mostly solved itself.

Now, my situation is obviously quite different from yours. Luck has perhaps played a role in my various recoveries, but I also feel that luck is something that people make for themselves. The salient points are that you must weigh your options and figure out what you want to do. Then aim for that. Listen when people say that rehabilitation is, for some things, a lifelong endeavor, but certainly a mid/long-term proposition.

Have or make trust in your medical team. My broken leg gave me precious little choice in the proceedings, and the infection of my hand did not give me much more, but I was older by then and once lucidity ebbed into focus, I was able to bond with the surgeon who did more than everyone else thought was possible. Still, that nurse's calm minimalization of my plight forced me to do things on my own and believe that it would one day be better. This trust develops instantaneously, in my experience, almost instinctively, but it is a palpable thing. And it is vital.

Having said that, it is chiefly you that will decide how things ultimately turn out. It is your attitude that will demarcate your success or failure. Just as bad news rarely improves with age, neither do injuries. Deference to your medical team preeminent, but do this now, while you are young, and recovery will be more efficacious.

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« Reply #9 on: 14 October 2023, 12:06:46 »
As a person with Cerebral palsy,  I know the having doors closed on you feeling, I stil feel my wife ended our relationship over the fact I not able to go go go(and going downhill) like she does still and my falling down the steps a few times hurting myself. Get the surgery (depending on the type and the rehab time) and your young you shall be fine.
These days it a lot better  than when i was younger. I have a friend that got knee replacement   and after rehab he back to work  but due to the work he did he end up in a manager position and not as active in firefighting  but he said he a lot happier and it does not bother him and he actually making more money and has more free time. (  We joke I need to have a spine and hips deal  for my back pain and leg issues or at least put in some   mecha parts for me. but i know I need to look into something soon  as i falling too much these days and after a few days be like how i bruised that part (from fall).. also you should to do 95% of what  you were before just no lifting entire motors and such lol.

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« Reply #10 on: 14 October 2023, 15:43:48 »
Further encouragement: when I tore the cartilage in my hip, the docs eventually told me "it might matter, it might not".  The pain was sufficient to put me off running for five years.  Then I saw a "corrective exercise specialist", who gave me some things to do (technically not physical therapy), to build up the strength around my hip.  After about another year, I started running again.  I've since been up to 16 miles (limited by dehydration, not hip pain), and can even do a mile and a half in under 9 minutes (No 5-minute miles for me, F16!).

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« Reply #11 on: 14 October 2023, 16:50:21 »
That speed was long ago, brother. And it was only offered as an example of the strides one can make under adverse circumstances, not as braggadocio.
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« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2023, 17:36:44 »
Those are some incredible strides, and ones I've never managed... good on you, brother! :)

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« Reply #13 on: 15 October 2023, 19:46:05 »
I have watch multiple friends and family go though the surgery route.   the recovery and rehab has kept the mobile.
worse one did, 1 knee at 28, 2nd at 33, Shoulder 40...  Family history of bad joints.

REHAB is the key, and don't be afraid to speak up if you think you are not going in the right way.  And I call it Physical Terrorism, because they will push you to get better.
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« Reply #14 on: 16 October 2023, 10:08:18 »
From my own experience... get the surgery. Do rehab. Whatever it takes. Because I wish I'd been willing to back when I needed it.

In my case, it was head trauma via hockey, and back then concussions weren't really understood the way they are now- otherwise I'd have treated things VERY differently. I wore the old style goalie mask- the Friday The 13th Jason one, not the modern style full-head one. It gave me better visibility- instead of having those cage bars in front of my face like the modern one, I had a clearer vision forward. If a puck (or stick, or knee, etc.) hit the side or back of my head, it'd ring my bell, but whatever- take a couple of Advil and get back to work. If I miss time, my backup goalie takes over, and if he does really well I might become HIS backup, and that was far scarier to me than any headache.

This all culminated in a night that literally almost killed me- a fake pass that caused me to turn my head, a powerful shot from the blue line instead as soon as I looked away that hit behind my left ear, and almost 30 years afterwards a continued struggle every day to feel 'normal'. Vertigo, dizzyness, headaches, light sensitivity, struggles to focus... it's unpleasant. I had brain swelling that caused surgeons to need to drill a small hole in my skull to relieve fluid pressure- luckily I didn't have baldness as a gene, so that's covered up nicely. But even now in my  mid-40s, I have days where I feel great, and others where I literally can't tie my shoes without needing a few tries. (Side note, part of my Battletech draw aftewards was the mental exercise of working out to-hit numbers, and later the focusing-practice of painting miniatures).

I didn't do a lot of rehab stuff. I didn't follow up with doctors as much as I should have. I didn't even stay off the ice- I was skating and weight-practicing again within a few weeks, against advice, and started in a game (with the full-head mask, I admit) only three months later, despite having trouble going up and down stairs. I didn't want to do any of the weakness-exposing care stuff- I was a macho teen who didn't show any weakness to my teammates, I was a badass and all of that dumb crap.

Don't be that guy. Get yourself taken care of. Get it done sooner than later, do every single ****** thing that doctor says to do to get better, push yourself even when you just don't want to- ESPECIALLY when you don't want to- and with any luck this setback will be a distant memory and occasional ache when it's about to rain by the time you're 30. I wish I'd taken that kind of advice when I needed it. Don't be me.
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« Reply #15 on: 16 October 2023, 15:04:33 »
From my own experience... get  the surgery. Do rehab. Whatever it takes. Because I wish I'd been willing to back when I needed it.

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« Reply #16 on: 16 October 2023, 17:09:50 »
Indeed!  Jade, that's the best advice yet! :)

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« Reply #17 on: 16 October 2023, 18:37:29 »
As others have said (nothing left to add on that front), there's no other option. Get the surgery and listen to the rehab staff. It's not a lesser evil, it's the only sane option. Don't think, do what you must.

My grandfather fell down a roof while de-icing it. In your 70's ish, braking your back isn't good news. But he was a simple man. Did everything he had to, never started asking himself questions so as not to brood. All he knew was he wanted to walk again. That was all he needed to think of. Despite the severity of the injury, from which most in their 20's never manage to get up from, he learned to walk again. Willpower. He hobbled, but he walked and was 2 years later back spending every waking hour of summer tending his garden and could take his walk during winter with his icepick equipped cane.

Then I had a friend whose passion was figure skating. Broke her knee at 17, thought too much, wasn't serious enough in her rehab, fell into ice cream. Never managed to do much athletics again. These things can take time to heal up and much willpower, the surgery is a life savior but you gotta be ready to save yourself also.

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« Reply #18 on: 17 October 2023, 03:17:45 »
I would also recommend surgery. My cousin had leucemia (or whatever the blood xancer is called in english) and that left him, indirectly, with very bad knees. He was quite the cripple. Until he underwent surgery. He will need to go through surgery  every 25 yeats or so, but he is much better now.

I am diabetic type 1 (autoimmune disease). I cannot eat regularly and have to be aware and alert about my blood sugar level. But the thing is: so what? I do not drink sweet drinks or eat cake. Well, i eat other stuff. And i am generally healthier than other people that do not care about their body because they do not have to. You just learn to cope, shrug and do something else. You will.do the same. We, humans, are extremely resilient. Turn that i to an asset. You probably will do well with surgery and going to the gym to exercise your muscles. If you turn that into a habit you will be in better shape than most people that drop off from their gym after half a month.  Maybe swimming is better. No idea since i a.a bycicle guy. I started really cycling at 34. I am in better shape now than when i was 22 and felt immortal.

I also had a knee injury at 37. Not like yours for sure, but one of those injuries that ground professional sportsmen. It took me 2 years to recover from it. I hated it, but doing the prescribed exercises helped me get back on my bycicle, starting slow first and going back to my previous self eventually.

So all my support and move forward. You took a bad turn in life. We all do at certain points. You can make a comeback and make the best out of it. It might not be immediate, but you can do it.

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« Reply #19 on: 17 October 2023, 14:23:56 »
I can echo the young and stupid altho mine is a lot more minor than most of the people commenting.

in 8th grade (us) I did a vault and landed wrong. the instructor was all does your neck hurt repeatedly. and I said no.

what I SHOULD have said is my neck doesn't hurt but my lower back hurts like heck.

so I landed just right/wrong on the padded mat, and tucked my head/neck so I landed on my shoulders, but the impact transferred just right up my spine, that nothing much was affected until it got to my lower back.

the good news is no major issues, just some minor low back pain off and on (say a 1-3ish) on the 1-10 scale and a vertebrae that likes to twist a little so a chiropractor wants to adjust it almost every time I go in.

its not horrible and I have lived with it for over 30 years at this point.  like I said in hindsight there are other things I SHOULD have done.

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« Reply #20 on: 17 October 2023, 22:44:15 »
most if you are lucky and can get surgery and rehab and pain in majority of cases would be gone.
as for myself its like living on a spit. about 12 years back i had been hit by a car while crossing at the light. flew about 120 ft or about 35 meters plus ended up with few bruises a small bunch of cuts dislocated left hip and fractures all over my spine with some nerve damdge that lets me enjoy pain on scale 1 to 10 about 7 and up with bonus of sometimes not able to tell how hot things are so got few burns thanks to that involuntary airborne trip both legs enjoy giving me pins and needles like if you had sat wrong for a while same goes for my arms mixed with constant pain. apparently fractures did not heal right and grew bone spurs that damaged my nerves so no amount of surgery or meds can fix...was told by few doctors that i will be in pain till i die more than likely and they are surprised that i had not gone crazy from pain and i should not be even moving from amount of pain i am experiencing. oth being struck by lightning when i was a kid apparently saved me from pain that would make me off myself seems that a lot of nerves got fried when i got hit. ohh and yes answer is it was shocking...i lost about 15 minutes of my memory so i remember tripping falling down coming to in a porta shelter on my friends aquaintance farm where we were playing them being furious because i lost my brand new sneakers i worked hard to get...hey i was 12 ok?  after thunder heads passed and rain stopped we found my sneakers...apparently i got blown out of them...ohh and doctors after they looked me over and observation said i was fine,,,but found out later my tolarance to pain had increased which pissed my stepmother off because she could not whip me with a belt and make me scream like she enjoyed...
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« Reply #21 on: 13 November 2023, 17:32:36 »
Bunyon removal surgery at 06:30 tomorrow EST.  Wish me a steady recovery, since I know it won't be swift and luck won't have much to do with it.

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« Reply #22 on: 13 November 2023, 19:07:10 »
How about a simple wish for a speedy recovery? :)

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« Reply #23 on: 13 November 2023, 19:14:14 »
I'll take it.  :smilie_happy_thumbup: But I'm told 6 to 8 weeks before I can return to work, and a few months to be fully healed.  But, I eat a high protein diet with lots of fresh fruit and supplemented by vitamins.  This should all work in my favor when it comes to healing.
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« Reply #24 on: 15 November 2023, 13:34:05 »
So it is done...
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« Reply #25 on: 15 November 2023, 18:06:19 »
At least you're home! :)

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« Reply #26 on: 15 November 2023, 18:18:31 »
I'm home tonight, yes.

My mom lives a mile from where I had my surgery, so I spent the day yesterday napping  on her couch and had this for dinner last night, because Mom knows how to grill a NY strip steak like nobody's business!   :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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« Reply #27 on: 15 November 2023, 18:19:44 »
Now you're making me hungry, even if you do prefer your steaks overdone... ;)

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« Reply #28 on: 15 November 2023, 18:21:27 »
Now you're making me hungry, even if you do prefer your steaks overdone... ;)

Pink all the way through.  Those were 2 inch steaks from the butcher! 
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« Reply #29 on: 15 November 2023, 18:25:49 »
I tell the waitresses "chase it across the grill with a match", or "blue" in the REALLY expensive places... sometimes I get what I ask for! ;D

At home, I give them 30 seconds per side to sear (which my wife won't, so *I* cook my steaks)... ;)

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« Reply #30 on: 15 November 2023, 18:28:25 »
I tell the waitresses "chase it across the grill with a match", or "blue" in the REALLY expensive places... sometimes I get what I ask for! ;D

At home, I give them 30 seconds per side to sear (which my wife won't, so *I* cook my steaks)... ;)

Hahaha, I see.  You like bloody steaks! Bright pink center is good enough for me.  But it's good, I can begin the healing process with high-quality proteins!  And tasty, too.
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« Reply #31 on: 15 November 2023, 18:39:17 »
So yesterday morning being when the surgery happened, I did take a few of the vicodins that they prescribed to me over the course of the evening.  But today I only took 1 vic, and the rest is just ibuprofen.  I'm going to try to just ride it out on ibuprofen alone.

There's only a little pain sometimes while I hobble around my kitchen or something.  Mostly it's just discomfort due to swelling - it feels like my foot will explode if it were any more swollen.
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« Reply #32 on: 15 November 2023, 19:44:59 »
Don't flush the remaining good drugs until you're REALLY out of the woods... I still remember the moment my last narcotics ran out from my wisdom teeth removal...

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« Reply #33 on: 15 November 2023, 20:11:44 »
Definitely not flushing them any time soon.  Besides, I often help my dad with carpentry and handyman style projects.  He hurts his back and shoulders sometimes, and these might help him out. 

But yeah, if I wake up in raging pain, I'd be glad to have the prescription still on hand.
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« Reply #34 on: 15 November 2023, 20:28:15 »
Sounds like a plan! :)

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« Reply #35 on: 16 November 2023, 03:29:00 »
My situation is different from the OP, but I think there are some relevant lessons.  I wont say what they are only to tell my story and let people draw whatever conclusions they want. 

I am disabled and use a mobility scooter.  It is larger than usual, lot of room in the footwell and with a large basket on the front.  I have a much more compact one to use on the train and other close confines.  Now I can walk, people think that because I use a mobility scooter I must be like Steven Hawking, and some don't like it when they see me get off it.  But I never claimed I couldn't walk, only that I cant walk far and there is a price to pay later for anything I do.  More to the point my disability benefit assessors know I can walk, as do my doctors etc it has never been hidden from then or any official record. I still do many of the things I used to do, and I can still exercise, particularly swim.  I am disabled for reason x, it matter not to anyone here what that is, only that it is real and it entitles me to the privilege of using mobility equipment.

The mobility scooter is liberating, in many cases it is an out and out advantage.  I can trundle down the supermarket or in a mall, take enough items to fill a car boot and go home without having to get off my chair.  I then put the scooter away and carry the goods around the house putting things away.  It is easier and more convenient than using a car the vast majority of the time.  It is worth every penny.

When on the scooter I got far more respect and polite treatment from people I met than I ever received while walking.  It was surprising at first.  I get to see the nice side of people a lot of the time.  There is more support out there than many people think and it is rather warming frankly.

I see many people who ask about my scooter. 'Oh I always wanted one of those.'  'Yes, they are worth every penny. Highly recommended, it will make a lot of difference.'

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« Reply #36 on: 16 November 2023, 12:22:30 »
I'm glad that you have that option for your mobility.  And glad you shared that with us here. 
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« Reply #37 on: 19 November 2023, 20:53:23 »
So yesterday morning being when the surgery happened, I did take a few of the vicodins that they prescribed to me over the course of the evening.  But today I only took 1 vic, and the rest is just ibuprofen.  I'm going to try to just ride it out on ibuprofen alone.

There's only a little pain sometimes while I hobble around my kitchen or something.  Mostly it's just discomfort due to swelling - it feels like my foot will explode if it were any more swollen.
yeah.. I remember that thought when I broke my leg..  I can do without after a day proir to casting..  then getting up slipping on my crutches and screaming in the pain on the floor in the hallway..waking my betterhalf up..  talking her out of me going to ER just get back to my chair and some pills
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« Reply #38 on: 19 November 2023, 21:35:15 »
yeah.. I remember that thought when I broke my leg..  I can do without after a day proir to casting..  then getting up slipping on my crutches and screaming in the pain on the floor in the hallway..waking my betterhalf up..  talking her out of me going to ER just get back to my chair and some pills

Correct! It was not as easy as I thought.

But I still cut way down.  Tuesday was surgery.  And on the day after surgery I took several of them again throughout the day. 

But after that I cut down to 1 vicodin in the morning along with one motrin 800.  Then motrin the rest of the day.  That has actually worked and I've stuck to it.  This morning, Sunday, I would have stopped taking the vicodin, but the foot is still nagging a bit, so I took one then motrin the rest of the day.  We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

So I didn't completely quit. I just cut back and I'll wean myself off of the need for it.  Things are getting better, though it's still swollen.
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« Reply #39 on: 19 November 2023, 22:33:58 »
good for you...   
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« Reply #40 on: 20 November 2023, 00:43:20 »
most of you are lucky you guys can take pain killers...with me it has to put down a horse....and i am still in pain. my doctor found out hard way narcotics and i do not mix, lets just say they make me paranoid and he found out hard way and a black eye did not endear me to him...seems i am over sensitive to some meds and they play havok with my behaviour. only one so far is advil or its derevitives that i tolerate and does not make me go out of wack but its not strong enough there is also limit how much one can take without damadging digestive systems and liver...
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« Reply #41 on: 20 November 2023, 12:46:03 »
most of you are lucky you guys can take pain killers...with me it has to put down a horse....and i am still in pain. my doctor found out hard way narcotics and i do not mix, lets just say they make me paranoid and he found out hard way and a black eye did not endear me to him...seems i am over sensitive to some meds and they play havok with my behaviour. only one so far is advil or its derevitives that i tolerate and does not make me go out of wack but its not strong enough there is also limit how much one can take without damadging digestive systems and liver...
I'm sorry to hear the issues other are having, and I hope people heal up, at least enough to have manageable or no pain.

yesterday I walked out to get my puppy out of the fenced enclosure and slipped and ended up on my back.  fortunately I did not hurt myself, but It still took me several minutes to get up (yes I laid there for a few just getting over the "shock" of falling. )

I know my dad has disabled plates/permit 60+40 VA disability, part of his issue is degenerated cartilage in his ankles so yes he CAN walk but not very far and it hurts if he walks too much

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« Reply #42 on: 20 November 2023, 19:52:05 »
And I don't mean to compare my pains that are mostly going to be fixed after I heal from surgery to the users on this thread who are dealing with long-term illnesses and disabilities.  But I just didn't think my surgery warranted its own thread, and I borrow space here. 

And yes, I am thankful for generally good health.  I increasingly eat better and work out and do everything I can to take care and to enjoy life on behalf of those who wish they could.  I'm rooting for you all too, maybe one day there will be breakthroughs that can possibly help those of us with more severe pain and disability.
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« Reply #43 on: 20 November 2023, 21:10:06 »
Pain is pain, my man. Glad you are doing acceptably, and that you see a window into a better future!
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« Reply #44 on: 24 November 2023, 19:32:47 »
Rebs I am, glad your doing well  after surgery,  I can still remember waking up from mine when I was a kid a( over 30 years ago)..   I have been going though the head ache with my separation and everything from my wife ( after she called me a leech and tossed me out  in June 2023( long story wont repeat here).  I had 4 Mri  this past week of skull  to my hips trying to find the reason for weakness, tingling in my legs  and falling so much ( even though I not been able to get my records from AI dupont back in Delaware yet)  .  I tell them Cerebral palsy  when I was diagnose as  kid.   but anyhow the Mri  have found about every disc in my back from t6- L6 has a bugling issues and they go about every way they can do so.  but the Doc just called it  arthritis  so far.  the skull and brain scan said something about white spots and I am waiting for their  diagnose on this.  but either way people that see me walk(waddle) can tell I am having issues.  I am also trying to go though DVR services to find some form of part time work to try and keep my truck and phone until  my Disability claim decided and even after to possible keep me moving more until it become too much.  I realized that i become more dependent on the walker than I wanted to.  What upset me some was the DVR lady said to get a wheel chair and use it at work to reduce my  falling issues. but then I point out that I doubt I could do the things I want/need to do in one like work on Pc /3d Printers and such also I still have ot stand to put times either on the higher shelves or get in the floor to reach the lower things as I could still flip a chair without trying since i am top heavy lol ( i have chicken legs and a beer belly without the beer)

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« Reply #45 on: 24 November 2023, 20:44:25 »
Pain is pain, my man. Glad you are doing acceptably, and that you see a window into a better future!

Rebs I am, glad your doing well  after surgery,  I can still remember waking up from mine when I was a kid a( over 30 years ago)..   I have been going though the head ache with my separation and everything from my wife ( after she called me a leech and tossed me out  in June 2023( long story wont repeat here).  I had 4 Mri  this past week of skull  to my hips trying to find the reason for weakness, tingling in my legs  and falling so much ( even though I not been able to get my records from AI dupont back in Delaware yet)  .  I tell them Cerebral palsy  when I was diagnose as  kid.   but anyhow the Mri  have found about every disc in my back from t6- L6 has a bugling issues and they go about every way they can do so.  but the Doc just called it  arthritis  so far.  the skull and brain scan said something about white spots and I am waiting for their  diagnose on this.  but either way people that see me walk(waddle) can tell I am having issues.  I am also trying to go though DVR services to find some form of part time work to try and keep my truck and phone until  my Disability claim decided and even after to possible keep me moving more until it become too much.  I realized that i become more dependent on the walker than I wanted to.  What upset me some was the DVR lady said to get a wheel chair and use it at work to reduce my  falling issues. but then I point out that I doubt I could do the things I want/need to do in one like work on Pc /3d Printers and such also I still have ot stand to put times either on the higher shelves or get in the floor to reach the lower things as I could still flip a chair without trying since i am top heavy lol ( i have chicken legs and a beer belly without the beer)

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« Reply #46 on: 24 November 2023, 21:22:27 »
That's a benefit of the excellent moderation we get here... it makes it so much easier to be sincere! :)

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« Reply #47 on: 24 November 2023, 21:30:33 »
Indeed.  And "Like" buttons get used too much and end up turning opportunities to engage a topic into something akin to a poll.  We're better off without them.
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« Reply #48 on: 25 November 2023, 19:54:58 »
Thanks guys!  People often will quip about how they wish this site had like buttons.  I would only want such a thing for posts like these here where people are actively giving a damn about fellow users, since we're all human beings and not just nicknames scrolling by on the internet.
Wait you all are real???  You are not just some AI bots I am stuck dealing with.
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« Reply #49 on: 25 November 2023, 20:02:38 »
As far as you know... ;D

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« Reply #50 on: 25 November 2023, 20:12:35 »
Wait you all are real???  You are not just some AI bots I am stuck dealing with.

We might all be "seamonkeys" in some adolescent alien's middle school science project, but that would mean you, too!  (Alien kid: "MOM!  They're nuking each other again!!!!")

It's still "real", however.    :cool:
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« Reply #51 on: 26 November 2023, 20:08:09 »
As far as you know... ;D
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It's still "real", however.    :cool:
Great, now more questions...
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« Reply #52 on: 21 December 2023, 15:16:47 »


Still hobbling around in a recovery boot, nearly 6 weeks after surgery.  Still just a little too swollen to fit into my shoes or regular boots.
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« Reply #53 on: 21 December 2023, 17:41:21 »
At least you can "walk"! :)

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« Reply #54 on: 21 December 2023, 20:07:40 »


Still hobbling around in a recovery boot, nearly 6 weeks after surgery.  Still just a little too swollen to fit into my shoes or regular boots.
ok dont mean to be insensitive...but whose backside you put your foot with such force in and did they deserve it?
hope you get full motion and no phantom pains
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« Reply #55 on: 21 December 2023, 21:36:53 »
I haven't dropped in as not actually crippled, but mentioning phantom pains - can I tell you about diabetic foot pain?

Imagine being stabbed in part of the foot with an electrified cocktail fork, every 10-30 seconds, for 2 to 3 days. Usually triggered by overuse (one reason I try and use a weight machine for exercise, not walking). Not so bad during the day - the pain is lessened if you have a little pressure on the foot, eg. sitting - but at night, it's taking painkillers and Voltaran gel just to minimise it long enough to get to sleep.

And yes, eventually it goes, and with more attention to diet and careful use of feet, goes away for weeks. Until it doesn't.

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« Reply #56 on: 21 December 2023, 22:01:24 »
mine is a fun one pins needles and burn all over full body since my accident it feels like being roasted on a spit slowly...at least yours goes away...one bright thing is it could had been worse if the lightning that struck me did not burn most of my pain receptors about 15 years prior i would not be here but about 2 meters under the ground and pushing flowers from below because i would had died of lead poisoning delivered at high velocity
and yes it was a shock when it hit me....
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« Reply #57 on: 22 December 2023, 08:07:55 »
Yes, as I said and is worth saying again, I'm glad not to be crippled, just hobbled (but recovering).

However, there's titanium staples and a screw holding the bones together now, and they are causing a crazy kind of burning sensation.  I've never been a fan of metal objects in my body.  The doc said I can get them removed but we need to wait several months for the bone to fully heal.   

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« Reply #58 on: 24 December 2023, 10:15:15 »
Yes, as I said and is worth saying again, I'm glad not to be crippled, just hobbled (but recovering).

However, there's titanium staples and a screw holding the bones together now, and they are causing a crazy kind of burning sensation.  I've never been a fan of metal objects in my body.  The doc said I can get them removed but we need to wait several months for the bone to fully heal.   
At least it not duct tape and zip ties.   I had 2 falls since last post, one put a hairline fracture my wrist and I just used a brace when room mates not around ( I didn't inform them as I owe them so much and it just took me longer to do what I been doing to earn my room and board with one arm) then more recent after the first MRI as I was getting off the table  and legs buckled and I hit the floor ( they required me to get check out as they heard the thud from my block trying to crack the floor. entire time i al laughing at them saying this is normal.

   I recently had mri done from base of skull to hips.( won't be back to doc until next month to get the full results) but basically they trying to claim mild arthritis along my entire spine . ( i have budging/herniated disk in every direction  but none pushing on spinal cord.)  Sadly by the time i do get to go back to the Doc I will probably lose my truck, due to unable to find work ( it seems that knowledge on how to do things and lacking the physical strength to do it all day every day won't get you a job.  Plus due to holiday freezes most places don't higher.  Plus  when I applied for disability and then moved ( i updated that I moved ) my home state called and once I was verified at the new address the lady said it have to be transferred to another office  and hung up. and now it looking like spring/ summer before i can hear anything if I am lucky.

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« Reply #59 on: 24 December 2023, 12:04:55 »
It's inspiring to know that you go above and beyond persevering.  You shake it off with a laugh. 

And I'll remember the duct tape suggestion. 

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« Reply #60 on: 26 December 2023, 01:10:16 »
Resisted sharing this, but holidays being here and having more time to relax has given me clarity of thought, so I'll crack.

Last spring, me wife started feeling rather bad. Now she'd had pains since I knew her and passing years weren't doing her any good, but till then she was still fit enough to go hiking across rough and steep terrain as a family activity, getting helped by our bastard malamute on the hardest slopes.

Then suddenly she started hurting real bad after her work shifts. Being a cleaning lady (a worker status that is unfortunately considered "independant work" and hence excluded from all "disability wage" programs) might not look like much but scrubbing dirty bathtubs is hard work. She started being unable to sleep due to the pain, then one day my parents call me and tell me that when she came home from work (they were baby sitting our kid), the wife looked "unlike anything they'd seen from her before". Talk with her, says she'll keep keeping on.

Next day, I come back from work, she's crying, standing in front of a chair, holding onto it, unable to move from pain. Now me wife, she ain't one of them sissys. Hard girl, tough girl, used to box in her twentys, lived in the streets for a few rather long spells. A survivor.

Managed to get refered to a clinic by the pharmatian (pain was too evident to ignore), sees a "super nurse" (with the doctor draught in my region of the world, seeing a full blown MD is nearly impossible but yakking about it will bring forth the dreaded "rule number 4).

About 15 years ago, my wife had been diagnosed with...I don't know the english word but a minor form of artrithis. Super-nurse says it's full blown arthrithis. Gives her pills, schedules a check-up with a rhumatologist. Ain't artrithis, its fibromyalgia.

They've tried all kinds of pill cocktails, the only one managing to ease the pain gave her suicidal tendencys and brought back the spectre of alcoolism. Nothing works, she's out of job, out of money. Thank Blake we're not folks used to much luxurys.

So yeah. Stuck with haywire neurons sending accute phantom pain signals all the time with her body actually reacting to it. Probably for the rest of her days.

Recently she had a new spike, some of her articulations actually swolling horribly. Goes to see the super-nurse who's convinced there's real arthrithis in the deal. Sends her back to the rhumatologist for a counter-expertise, but he stands his ground. Gonna run her a few more tests during the holidays in case he'd missed something. All we can do is hope for the best.

We do our best to keep morale up. Ain't always easy. 'Least she's kept occupied with the kids school (which ain't the local school, it's an altetnative program necessiting quite the few hours of volunteering on behalf the parents) and what chores she can do (that end up taking 3x the time it used to). 'Tis quite hard for her to be stuck this way, with a debilitating cripple-like state whithout actually having PHISICAL wounds.

Damned be our weak fleshling bodys and minds.

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« Reply #61 on: 26 December 2023, 09:17:10 »
From what I gather, things are made worse by the fact that a not insignificant amount of doctors believe Fibromyalgia to be a disease that exists only in a patient's head and in the terminology of what they regard as crooked doctors.  I've known people who suffer from this, and I've heard.
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« Reply #62 on: 27 December 2023, 03:54:06 »
Medicine can, at times, be very conservative.

I was lucky enough to get Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in the early 80s, before it was called that; I got genuine treatment (which did nothing), support, and eventually got better. Once they called it "Yuppie Flu", so many people got ignored.

At the time, their best theory was "You've probably got leprosy for parrots, or something like that. It's not getting a grip on your body, but your body is spending all its energy trying to get rid of it."
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« Reply #63 on: 27 December 2023, 07:29:31 »
Sorry to be late chiming in, but I endorsed the surgery and rehab.

You have youth on your side so you'll heal much quicker than some of us older folks. The sooner you do it the better as long as the doctors feel that it's needed. Good luck!
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« Reply #64 on: 27 December 2023, 23:10:04 »
From what I gather, things are made worse by the fact that a not insignificant amount of doctors believe Fibromyalgia to be a disease that exists only in a patient's head and in the terminology of what they regard as crooked doctors.  I've known people who suffer from this, and I've heard.
also speaking from the input of friends who have it, 1 of the big issues that some doctors and "sciencist" have is that there is no formal diagnostic testing for it.    Some feel it is mostly a psychological issue, as each person responds to it differently to physical problems.  And I know most of the people who have really issue getting doctors to listen are women.
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« Reply #65 on: 27 December 2023, 23:15:36 »
also speaking from the input of friends who have it, 1 of the big issues that some doctors and "sciencist" have is that there is no formal diagnostic testing for it.    Some feel it is mostly a psychological issue, as each person responds to it differently to physical problems.  And I know most of the people who have really issue getting doctors to listen are women.

Indeed.  It seems to affect women most.  And being dismissed so callously by somebody they sought help from is enough to piss me off just reading about it, I can't imagine what it's like to be in their place.
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« Reply #66 on: 02 January 2024, 17:46:23 »
It's not getting a grip on your body, but your body is spending all its energy trying to get rid of it."
I can contest to this with my back and legs discomfort( pain, there days I can do almost what I want and by mid day I pushed to hard.  but there also days I feel so bad I don't want to get out of bed.  I can use this weekend as a example.  started off mildly sore and pushed to myself to help with some unpacking, and lifting  by 3 rd hour of our day. I was ready to go crawl in bed and just cry till I crashed.  Woke up the next 2 days barely even able to move and fell many times.  One of the times was not even out the bedroom door 3 steps and down I went hard.   today I was still sore and super stiff but i managed to keep up right ( so far lol) and i only gotten about 2/3 of my to do list for today done on top  of other things I been trying to get done in last few weeks.

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« Reply #67 on: 03 January 2024, 11:04:55 »
also speaking from the input of friends who have it, 1 of the big issues that some doctors and "sciencist" have is that there is no formal diagnostic testing for it.    Some feel it is mostly a psychological issue, as each person responds to it differently to physical problems.  And I know most of the people who have really issue getting doctors to listen are women.

What I find to be the crazyest about this illness is how different people "contract it". Besides my wife I know another person who has it. In her case its genetic, passed down from her mother. Or so is the best theorie of the experts.

But yes, it is truely distressing how people suffer from hand waving of doctors. While how we got there is a shame, I find that's the big advantage of our super-nurse program (plus, gotta dig the name), They're less "detached" from their patients. While getting basically ignored by the doctor is unfortunately too common, I've never heard of a bad comment on a super-nurse. Heck, in our case, we can only be grateful, and we're more and more tempted to follow her judgement over the specialist's.

From all sorts of pill cocktails to none, and now so much backpain she hurts breathing. What the heck?

 

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« Reply #68 on: 03 January 2024, 22:17:02 »
Breathing?  I go to a chiro, nice chap who straightens out a vertebrae that twists or something in my back and hurts like shit.  He just suggested physio to me, says my back is weak and the ribs subluxating (sp) or whatever.

Your friend look into a chiro?  I thought they were just another quack like acupuncture until I needed one.
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« Reply #69 on: 04 January 2024, 15:03:10 »
Breathing?  I go to a chiro, nice chap who straightens out a vertebrae that twists or something in my back and hurts like shit.  He just suggested physio to me, says my back is weak and the ribs subluxating (sp) or whatever.

Your friend look into a chiro?  I thought they were just another quack like acupuncture until I needed one.
chiropractors like any other medical profession you find good and we will say less good ones.  one of the adjustment procedures I personally feel is more of a joke than anything else is when they offer to "adjust" your ears.on the other hand hip, spine, and similar adjustments ... we joked that my friend who is a chiro "hurts you good"

with the acupressure/ acupuncture there is some evidence and theory that it does (can) work I will say that a lot of modern western medicine wants to go with pills and /or surgery as the solution

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« Reply #70 on: 04 January 2024, 15:20:29 »
Breathing?  I go to a chiro, nice chap who straightens out a vertebrae that twists or something in my back and hurts like shit.  He just suggested physio to me, says my back is weak and the ribs subluxating (sp) or whatever.

Your friend look into a chiro?  I thought they were just another quack like acupuncture until I needed one.

Chiro wouldn't really help. The problem is, as far as medecine can figure it out at this point, mental. At this point, its considered an illness originating in the central nervous system. Brain always thinks you're locked in a torture chamber even though your resting on a comfy chair with a hot tea looking at the snow outsdide.

Physio would be an option, its apparently helpfull, but being canadians we're unfortunately not covered for that and neither do my work insurances help (though they do on medics at least). Apparently, most american insurances cover it, or so we've been told, but the canadian health care system doesn't really take fibromyalgia into account, gotta pay for everything (not that I'm critical of the theory behind our system, but commenting would surely get too close to rule number 4). Might become a possibility if my wife gets accepted on some "wage for the disabled" program.

To give you an idea of how it's a blind spot for our system, one of my wife's friend also has contracted that crap. Single mother, basically told to fend for herself by her doctor, she's had to turn to the black market for morphine to keep going. Father takes in the kids when she's too high on morphine to care for them.

The "wonder medicine" for us is cortisone, but that thing can be real dangerous to some of your organs if your not careful...only take it when you can't do any else.

But on acupuncture, I've had some real good comemnts on it actually for some ailments, but apparently it's one of those "you have to believe in it" options...might be more of a "mental" treatment.

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« Reply #71 on: 04 January 2024, 15:43:28 »
Chiro wouldn't really help. The problem is, as far as medecine can figure it out at this point, mental. At this point, its considered an illness originating in the central nervous system. Brain always thinks you're locked in a torture chamber even though your resting on a comfy chair with a hot tea looking at the snow outsdide.

Physio would be an option, its apparently helpfull, but being canadians we're unfortunately not covered for that and neither do my work insurances help (though they do on medics at least). Apparently, most american insurances cover it, or so we've been told, but the canadian health care system doesn't really take fibromyalgia into account, gotta pay for everything (not that I'm critical of the theory behind our system, but commenting would surely get too close to rule number 4). Might become a possibility if my wife gets accepted on some "wage for the disabled" program.

To give you an idea of how it's a blind spot for our system, one of my wife's friend also has contracted that crap. Single mother, basically told to fend for herself by her doctor, she's had to turn to the black market for morphine to keep going. Father takes in the kids when she's too high on morphine to care for them.

The "wonder medicine" for us is cortisone, but that thing can be real dangerous to some of your organs if your not careful...only take it when you can't do any else.

But on acupuncture, I've had some real good comemnts on it actually for some ailments, but apparently it's one of those "you have to believe in it" options...might be more of a "mental" treatment.
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« Reply #72 on: 11 January 2024, 14:45:44 »
ok most days i am in a lot of pain but had any one been in so much pain that you tried reheating your hot drink by putting it in a fridge freezer pain?
yah i put it in a freezer closed it then wondered where the hell is the key pad...took me a minute to focus and it hit me its not a microwave...
isnt living in  pain fun? have to admit that was a first for me...
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