The *literally* Never-Seen

[Wrangler]

Was the Grand Crusader II OmniMech mentioned yet. Development was abandoned for the Celestial Series OmniMechs

[RanFelsnerAFFS]

the [/i]Corsair... a Corsair. Meaning, a "generic Periphery term referring to heavy and assault class FrankenMechs."

Well...No, thats not what ist stated

95-ton FrankenMech "Redemption", arguably a Corsair but not explicitly named as such

And I never heard of such a specific "periphery term". Source?

[beachhead1985]

Sarna notes that Redemption and Malice also mentions another 'Mech, the Slither.

Any details given?

Was the Grand Crusader II OmniMech mentioned yet. Development was abandoned for the Celestial Series OmniMechs

It will be now!

[RanFelsnerAFFS]

Any details given?

Book only says

"One was the upper torso of a Vulcan and the legs of a Rim Worlds Slither"

No further Info.

[BATTLEMASTER]

And I never heard of such a specific "periphery term". Source?

The Corsair fluff from MWO:  https://mwomercs.com/news/2018/11/2179-corsair-lore

While the Inner Sphere settled into a culture of salvage and refurbishment, those dregs of humanity—devolving into pirate kingdoms and dictatorships—were forced even further into desperation. Out there, BattleMechs were not simply field-repaired. They were all too often mash-ups, with whole parts, including skeletons, grafted on in an effort to field equipment that can still fight. The heavier such “FrankenMechs” are often also referred to as “Corsairs”, though no exact weight or chassis applies. Instead, Corsairs are these desperate chop-shop heavy and assault BattleMechs forged from parts from a variety of different ’Mechs, whatever can be found on forgotten battlefields.

[Wrangler]

Any MWO source isnt canon unless CGL puts it out.

[SteelRaven]

CGL already said they won't out of legal caution. Same reason why they won't touch fan designs. Only reason we more recently got a few MW4 looking mech is because MW4 became abandon-were.

[Empyrus]

CGL already said they won't out of legal caution. Same reason why they won't touch fan designs. Only reason we more recently got a few MW4 looking mech is because MW4 became abandon-were.

MW4 is not abandonware. (Besides, that isn't really a legal concept.)

[Colt Ward]

CGL already said they won't out of legal caution. Same reason why they won't touch fan designs. Only reason we more recently got a few MW4 looking mech is because MW4 became abandon-were.

 . . . the artist for MW4 designs, David White, has worked for CGL?

[Cache]

. . . the artist for MW4 designs, David White, has worked for CGL?

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Works_by_David_White

[Colt Ward]

Which is why I said that- he also worked on MWDA mechs IIRC, which is why we had a Black Knight that looked pretty close- same for the Thor II/Grand Summoner.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

And the Arctic Wolf II

[SteelRaven]

Which is why I said that- he also worked on MWDA mechs IIRC, which is why we had a Black Knight that looked pretty close- same for the Thor II/Grand Summoner.

That was another artist, Brent Evans who also worked on TRO 3075. While David White's work on MW4 influenced the look of many MWDA mechs like the Thor, Mad Dog and Black Knight, I have yet to see anything credited to David White directly outside of later TROs post WK reintroducing those mechs.

[MarauderD]

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Works_by_David_White

I felt like he did a brilliant job for TRO:3145 Federated Suns.

His Gunsmith, Vulpes, Black Knight, and Atlas III all really hit the mark for me.

I also liked the Zibler Strike tank and a few other of the vehicles as well.

[Wolf72]

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Works_by_David_White

OHHHH he's the one who made the Hoplite and Firefly look cool! (granted they're SLE/Clan versions, so they are cooler by default  ;) )

[Empyrus]

OHHHH he's the one who made the Hoplite and Firefly look cool! (granted they're SLE/Clan versions, so they are cooler by default  ;) )

Those two really need minis based on White's work...

[worktroll]

I'm a bigger fan of David White's art than the MWO art, by a long shot.

The nuseen fit in the middle - more greeblie than White, but not as busy or as similar as MWO. If you have trouble telling the difference between a Firestarter, Enforcer, and Vindicator ...

[Colt Ward]

Add in a unknown Nova config from the Luthien scenario book pg 43, bottom right.  A DC Slayer is donating a lot of missiles to the poor Jaguar (Mech is named Luvbug? and has 'hate' spelled out on the fingers of the right hand?) who might be on fire from the attention.  The right shoulder has a 4 missile rack and the arm looks like it has the ERML set up of the Prime but I can only see 3 . . . this does not match ANY canon (or even really close) Nova configs.  At a guess . . . 4 ERML on each arm, SSRM4 on the RT, and add a DHS . . . but you cannot see the same position on the LT so it could be a SRM4 on each shoulder and split the ton of ammo.

[Kit deSummersville]

Omni loadouts seem rather pedantic given the nature of them.

[SteelRaven]

The Luthien book is also noted as one of the most error prone books of the FASA era due to the rush to get it published.

[Colt Ward]

Not saying too much against that Kit, but its still a very different load for the Nova than we get- I like that sort of load out on the Pouncer, figure it would work well on a Nova since its more robust.

I agree SteelRaven, but its art with most the details right . . . not saying the elite Jag & Nova Cat clusters are 3/4 skills or forgetting Leo Showers was a Jaguar Khan at the time the invasion started.

[The_Livewire]

Those two really need minis based on White's work...

Something about the 3050 art for the Firefly calls to me more than the OK Firefly.  Though the Wolverine II is still my favourite.

And don't we now have a sheet for the missig Firefly variant?

[Empyrus]

Something about the 3050 art for the Firefly calls to me more than the OK Firefly.  Though the Wolverine II is still my favourite.

And don't we now have a sheet for the missig Firefly variant?

RSSW has the original Firefly (3-something) that was referred to in HOK.

[beachhead1985]

Add in a unknown Nova config from the Luthien scenario book pg 43, bottom right.  A DC Slayer is donating a lot of missiles to the poor Jaguar (Mech is named Luvbug? and has 'hate' spelled out on the fingers of the right hand?) who might be on fire from the attention.  The right shoulder has a 4 missile rack and the arm looks like it has the ERML set up of the Prime but I can only see 3 . . . this does not match ANY canon (or even really close) Nova configs.  At a guess . . . 4 ERML on each arm, SSRM4 on the RT, and add a DHS . . . but you cannot see the same position on the LT so it could be a SRM4 on each shoulder and split the ton of ammo.

I'll add it. Honestly; to make Omnis seem as unique as they should be; we need more rando-cardrissian comfigurations

[Frabby]

I still don't get why different Omni loadouts are considered notable here. The whole point of Omni pod space is that it can be whatever configuration you want, as long as it is within tonnage and crit space limits. Why not simply note to Omni space as such regardless of content?

[Sartris]

i can see the argument for loadouts that exist canonically (even if just in hints and glimpses) vs the infinite possibilities not published in an official source. headcanoning that John Doe runs his own Avatar config vs a novel saying that he definitely does mean two different things.

[Colt Ward]

I still don't get why different Omni loadouts are considered notable here. The whole point of Omni pod space is that it can be whatever configuration you want, as long as it is within tonnage and crit space limits. Why not simply note to Omni space as such regardless of content?

You have missed the 'canon only' discussions and overboard official reactions to anything hinting at a mech or vehicle's loadout in a topic?

Its art, so its canon (as flimsy as art is) and one we lack a sheet for . . . as someone pointed out, being Omni only counts for meta/strategic game purposes- a RS from a Omni is no different than a standard mech.

[beachhead1985]

Added the UL-14 Bulldozer: TRO:VA(R) p. 34

And Gulf Breeze "Capital Station" 930,000T; 5x Wheelers, from Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, P.12

[assaultdoor]

I don't see the Hessen Heavy Tank here. The MUL says it is from the Age of War and appears in XTRO Primitives 3, but has no other data on it at all.

[Wrangler]

Avalonmax-class freighters noted (not seen/no states) in Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentarus.