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BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Fan Financing 2.0 => Topic started by: speck on 02 February 2015, 21:23:02
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This is the Funding thread for Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV and it needs $800.00 to be Funded.
Current Funds total $800.00, so it is FUNDED
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I will do $25
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I'll toss in another $20 here for sure.
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I will start out with 50$.
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I'm for 100 $
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$50.
Thanks.
Mike
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$75 From me here.
Heavyguard
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I'll pitch in $100.00.
I'll spend that much at Gen Con anyway. ::)
:D
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I could throw in $25 as well. O0
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Welp. I voted for it. I'm down for $30 on this one.
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I'll pop for $25.
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I'm in for $100.
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See first post for update on amount remaining.
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I bid US$25.
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we do not have a coord for this one, yet, right? it is *not* Cache, who is doing the APCs?
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we do not have a coord for this one, yet, right? it is *not* Cache, who is doing the APCs?
As of now, there is not a lead contact for this one.
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I vote for Beachhead :)
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I vote for Beachhead :)
uh...how do I do that?
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uh...how do I do that?
You send PMs to all the pledgers to get them to send money to you, and then laugh maniacally forward the payment to Behrle.
You probably also have to nag slow payers to get the money together. That part sounds less fun.
There's a whole process posted in the rules thread.
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You send PMs to all the pledgers to get them to send money to you, and then laugh maniacally forward the payment to Behrle.
You probably also have to nag slow payers to get the money together. That part sounds less fun.
There's a whole process posted in the rules thread.
Well shucks, I guess I could manage that.
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Put me in for $50
That brings the total pledged from all backers to $675 as of this post.
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Updated the first post.
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I'll throw $25 at this bad boy!
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$25
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I can't stand to see this project suffer.
Put me down for the last $75 needed to get it done.
Beachhead, are you organizing?
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Put me down for $75
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That's $875!!
I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
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I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
I was quite surprised, too. I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong. ???
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A few people have expressed their preference in the question thread for funding "new" minis (ie minis for mechs/vehicles which currently do not have a mini) not just another "reimage" of an unseen that we already have reseen versions of. I respect people's right to have this point of view.
I have contributed a small amount but I was reluctant to do so as first because I have not seen the art for the primitive Rifleman yet (XTRO Primitives IV is on my long wishlist). However my desire to help IWM (who have been good to me) and dislike of the reseen Rifleman overcame my fear of the unknown.
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That's $875!!
I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
Wait, do we whittle that down now? Does the last guy not get in, or do we keep it as extra to the sculpt, or what?
Follow-up question; that's Funded, then right? Now I PM everyone, conf and distribute paypal info for funding collection and forwarding to B-3, correct? or wait out?
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A few people have expressed their preference in the question thread for funding "new" minis (ie minis for mechs/vehicles which currently do not have a mini) not just another "reimage" of an unseen that we already have reseen versions of. I respect people's right to have this point of view.
I have contributed a small amount but I was reluctant to do so as first because I have not seen the art for the primitive Rifleman yet (XTRO Primitives IV is on my long wishlist). However my desire to help IWM (who have been good to me) and dislike of the reseen Rifleman overcame my fear of the unknown.
Here you go :)
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I was quite surprised, too. I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong. ???
"Old School" trumps anything new in BattleTech I think... :D
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"Old School" trumps anything new in BattleTech I think... :D
Primitives are in a weird spot though where some are using/preferring them as a analogs for Unseen. Perhaps the APC fans were just more rabid.
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Primitives are in a weird spot though where some are using/preferring them as a analogs for Unseen. Perhaps the APC fans were just more rabid.
Yup. That's my plan. I have a 3025 Merc company that'll use primitives to replace their old Unseen analog.
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Here you go :)
Thanks mate, you are a gentleman and a scholar O0
Looks good. Very happy I have the privilege of being involved in turning it from 2D art into a 3D miniature pewter armament and I will purchase a couple to sit along side my one unseen Rifleman mini and be used as proxies for the unseen Rifleman.
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Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
I guess that's what happens when people who do not intend to pledge/buy are allowed to vote for what gets done.
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I intend to do both, Was gonna chip in on the APC's but it was finished before I even knew it was started. But the next one I will chip in on if I think it is the one I think it is gonna be.
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I can't stand to see this project suffer.
Put me down for the last $75 needed to get it done.
Beachhead, are you organizing?
After this pledge we reached the $800, so it is Funded..
Put me down for $75
Minnow will be back up if everyone else can not contribute what they pledge in there posts.
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Wait, do we whittle that down now? Does the last guy not get in, or do we keep it as extra to the sculpt, or what?
Follow-up question; that's Funded, then right? Now I PM everyone, conf and distribute paypal info for funding collection and forwarding to B-3, correct? or wait out?
I already posted in a thread above this that the last guy will be on deck if someone can not contribute that they posted. We can only collect the $800 for the sculpt. So next step PM all the people who pledged except the last guy (I sent a email to him about sculpt being Funded by the pledge before his), Collect money in paypal and then forward onto B-3. Also collect names, amount contributed and emails, I will need that information for emailing the Vouchers.
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I was quite surprised, too. I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong. ???
For my own part, I wanted both sculpts (These were two of my three votes!), but I nominated the APC's, and have been wanting them for much longer than the primitive Rifleman has been in-print, so I threw my money over there.
I don't know how other people felt, but, at the time, I thought it would be more productive to concentrate my budget on one project to get it done, rather than split it. I don't know that that's "right".
In either case, there are actually more funders for the rifleman than the APCs (67% the pledgers for 125% the money). The vehicles got a small number of large pledges up front, which brought them close to funding in a real hurry. That probably bodes well for sales volume on the rifleman, assuming each pledger represents a sampling of market interest.
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I voted for the Primitive Griffin and Rifleman, and intend to help fund them both (I've already pledged for the Rifleman). While I didn't vote for the others, and don't intend to help fund them, I'm sure I'll buy some of them when they're released, namely the APCs. Basically, once they're up for sale I'll be "Voting" for them with my wallet. O0
While there's the Argument that the Primitives can be seen as Resculpts, they're actually significantly Different enough from the originals that I Personally don't see them as Resculpts. I DON'T feel that way about the Flashman or Highlander though, or any other "Resculpt" that was on the Voting Poll. I'll have to wait and see what any "new" mini of them looks like before I decide to buy yet another copy of it. I haven't seen the art for the Black Knight "Red Reaper" either, so I've no idea how "Different" it might/might not be from the original. :-\
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I haven't seen the art for the Black Knight "Red Reaper" either, so I've no idea how "Different" it might/might not be from the original. :-\
I think it's lurking in DarkISI's signature.
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Black Knight Red Reaper artwork:
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5783/black-knight-bl-x-knt-red-reaper
(http://www.masterunitlist.info/Image/RenderImage?width=300&height=400&file=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.masterunitlist.info%2FBattleMechs%2FXTRO%20Most%20Wanted%2FBlack%20Knight%20BL-X-KNT.jpg)
XTRO: Most Wanted (http://bg.battletech.com/test/epubs/battletech-experimental-technical-readout-most-wanted/) is actually well worth the buy, not just to support this beautiful piece of artwork. You get a lot of great fluff and story/scenarios/campaign ideas out of it, too. :)
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Thanks for the picture! O0
So it's a Black Knight with a sword and shield then. Couldn't you just use an AD&D Paladin figure as a proxy? :D
Seriously though, while the head seems to be a little shorter than the usual BK, I can definitely see this is VASTLY different from the regular model. A mini of this would certainly NOT be a "Resculpt"! While I Probably won't pitch in towards getting it made, I'm sure I'll buy a couple minis when they're released at least. O0
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I see the primitives are different than the originals but as you can use the originals as the primitives and the primitives as originals I see them as kind of a resculpt, as there are lots of things that do not yet have any sculpt I do not plan to put money towards resculpts tell they are done.
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I see the primitives are different than the originals but as you can use the originals as the primitives and the primitives as originals I see them as kind of a resculpt, as there are lots of things that do not yet have any sculpt I do not plan to put money towards resculpts tell they are done.
I see your point, and I've got enough Unseen minis myself that I don't "Need" the Primitives. However, I DO like the looks of them enough to buy them, AND there are MANY people out there that either don't have ANY Unseen, or that don't have enough of them to suit them. One of the Complaints about the Unseen/Originals after all is that they're just NOT available anymore. The "Secondary Market" for them is being polluted with fakes, so that makes buying them chancy also. :-\ Even the Reputable sources for them generally only have 1 or 2 for sale at a time, then it's weeks or months before they have any more, if ever.
But like you, I'll not be funding Resculpts, Clan or WoB stuff. I'll fund what I like, and nothing else. ;)
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Let's get back on topic for this thread. Do we have a lead contact for this funded Primitive Rifleman.
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Hey guys, yeah it's me. Going to take a stab at this.
So here are are funders;...fundites? Fundians?
TS_Hawk 25
Me 25
Maingunnery 50
God and Davion 100
The Wayfarer 50
heavy guard 75
GRUD 100
Saint 25
Azakael 30
mdauben 25
abou 100
Feenix74
D.Jensen 50
jbressel 25
Sartris 25
klarg1 75
Minnow 75, first alternate
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Hey guys, yeah it's me. Going to take a stab at this.
So here are are funders;...fundites? Fundians?
People funding this?
Dunno.
Either way, just PM me with the information to PayPal you, and I shall do so when I get home from work.
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Okay, the first of the Pms are in the pipe. I will send the rest shortly.
Those of you in on the APC funding may notice a *slight* similarity with the PM from Cache.
Sorry Cache, buddy; I steal only from the best.
Minnow; my plan at this time is only to contact you if someone defaults.
So let's cross our fingers and hope I did this right.
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Fundicators?
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Sorry Cache, buddy; I steal only from the best.
Don't worry, speck asked me to write up a guide for lead contacts. It'll be pretty similar.
Also, I went with financiers. But I'm not always the most creative.
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PayPal is delivering the money via the interweb thingy.
Noting the fact that the primitive Rifleman is a bit lighter in tonnage, may I suggest that the primitive Rifleman be close in size to the unseen Rifleman mini instead of the reseen Rifleman?
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Fundicators?
Fundamentals 8)
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*updated added TS _Hawk
Sitrep; 780 at this time.
TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid
Minnow 75, first alternate
How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?
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Maths look right to me.
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Paid in full. New daddy duties have kept me busy. :)
Cheers,
DJ
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Paid in full. New daddy duties have kept me busy. :)
Cheers,
DJ
Then the current level should be 730, we are now in the last sprint.
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So, with the APC funded and this one almost paid for, when can we expect to see the funding threads for the next two.
Disappointed the Highlander resculpt is getting done. It doesn't look that much different from the original. I'd rather raise additional funds for updated artwork in the newer style and a new sculpt based on that.
Oh well, as my mother always said, "if wishes were horses, then beggars would ide."
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So, with the APC funded and this one almost paid for, when can we expect to see the funding threads for the next two.
Disappointed the Highlander resculpt is getting done. It doesn't look that much different from the original. I'd rather raise additional funds for updated artwork in the newer style and a new sculpt based on that.
Oh well, as my mother always said, "if wishes were horses, then beggars would ide."
Still better than my version; "if wishes were fishes; we'd all eat ground beef."
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That should read "beggars would ride" not ide.
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*updated added TS _Hawk
Sitrep; 780 at this time.
TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid
Minnow 75, first alternate
How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?
I think in our financing frenzy we over pledged. As jbressel is the last financier yet to have paid, probably your easiest solution is, with jbressel's agreement, drop his contrubtion back to $20. Alternatively you could drop yours back by $5 (to save having to do more paypal money transfers) or if nobody else wants to reduce their contribution you can drop my contribution back to $20 (but then you will need to paypal me back $5).
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edit: it seems that I was wrong.
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*updated added TS _Hawk
Sitrep; 780 at this time.
TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid
Minnow 75, first alternate
How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?
Beachhead, you actually stated you were only doing 20 initially in your first post, and it says that you have paid 25 here. I think that is the discrepancy...
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Beachhead, you actually stated you were only doing 20 initially in your first post, and it says that you have paid 25 here. I think that is the discrepancy...
Yeah, that would be me screwing up.
No dishonour fi I just do the 20 as pledged?
I think in our financing frenzy we over pledged. As jbressel is the last financier yet to have paid, probably your easiest solution is, with jbressel's agreement, drop his contrubtion back to $20. Alternatively you could drop yours back by $5 (to save having to do more paypal money transfers) or if nobody else wants to reduce their contribution you can drop my contribution back to $20 (but then you will need to paypal me back $5).
Yes, jbressel is out last guy. I have PM'd him again, nothing yet.
And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out. I seem to recall that I talked a lot about putting in form something the last time around and missed the boat and you guy even let me handle the money for this one.
besides that, we have all the cash.
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Yeah, that would be me screwing up.
No dishonour fi I just do the 20 as pledged?
Yes, jbressel is out last guy. I have PM'd him again, nothing yet.
And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out. I seem to recall that I talked a lot about putting in form something the last time around and missed the boat and you guy even let me handle the money for this one.
besides that, we have all the cash.
Without his pledge are we short and if so by how much?
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Without his pledge are we short and if so by how much?
$25, and Minnow was a first alternate with a $75 offer. Heh.
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And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out.
I know I wouldn't have any problem with it. Between 2002 and 2009, my '98 Saturn surprised me FOUR times with unexpected repairs that each ate nearly an entire paycheck. >:( My Dad and brother have each had to replace their washers and driers fairly unexpectedly also (not both at the same time, fortunately for them!), and I know those things aren't cheap either. Things like that "Happen" to everyone, like it or not. :-\ I think we should just be patient and understanding when/if it Does happen with someone that's pledged money. O0
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And we have time, too. B-3 isn't a machine that can crank out a bunch of sculpts at once. Maybe give jbressel until Friday.
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And we have time, too. B-3 isn't a machine that can crank out a bunch of sculpts at once. Maybe give jbressel until Friday.
something had to have happened. the person would post almost on a regular basis and to suddenly disappear?
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The pledgee in question has posted on the forum over the last couple of days, including today.
However, life happens. If a forum member has to drop out after having made a pledge, then that is life. It would be nice if, in that situation, if the pledgee was to post that they are unable to go through with their pledge because that would allow the Lead Financier to contact the backup pledgee(s) or seek new pledges with the minimal delay but again life happens and this may not always be possible.
I have suggested in the Fan Financing Questions thread that we should give the pledgee(s) two weeks from the Lead Financier's PM with payment details to make payment arrangements before we then move to the backup pledgee(s).
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something had to have happened. the person would post almost on a regular basis and to suddenly disappear?
Don't know what's up but he didn't disappear. He posted several times in the last few days.
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Two other thoughts:
1. talk to B-3 to find out his timeline. If he is busy with other things, you could delay payment a little longer.
2. (this certainly can't be done in each instance but sometimes it might be easiest) lead funder drops the extra money in for the time being so it can be passed on in time and then if the payment is received, you're good. If not, get one of the backups to send the money. It may just require delaying the vouchers for everybody or doing the vouchers in two parts, if speck/IWM is willing. (this depends upon if someone has the spare cash and the missing amount is not excessive.)
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I posted over on the questions forum and we came up with a metric of 2 weeks pack initial emails going out to the fundians.
That was 11 feb, so two weeks hence gives us till the 25th and then Minnow is in the breach.
In the CF; we'd call this a "Warning Order" with implied tasks for both jbressel and minnow.
To reiterate; I have pm'd jbressel. So presumably he is aware.
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Yes, I am busy finishing the Kodiak II at the moment and will take a little while to get the APC's sculpted. The payment can be delayed a little while so a Fundicator can get their pledge together. This only delays the thread setup on the QCC a bit at this juncture.
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Yes, I am busy finishing the Kodiak II at the moment and will take a little while to get the APC's sculpted. The payment can be delayed a little while so a Fundicator can get their pledge together. This only delays the thread setup on the QCC a bit at this juncture.
Take your time; looking forward to that beast.
lol; "Fundicator" love it. I kill me.
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Don't know what's up but he didn't disappear. He posted several times in the last few days.
I say then we beat him with a soggy udon noodle then :P
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I have gotten in touch with jbressel. Things are good, we will get this sorted right quick.
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So when will this be officially funded?
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So when will this be officially funded?
I 2nd this.
Funding for this opened on 2 FEB, with the 1st pledge made on 3 FEB, and jbressel pledging on the 8th. If there's something keeping him from being able to fulfill his pledge after this long, I think we need to go with the Alternate. As Feenix74 suggested, it's been over 2 weeks, so I think we should go with Minnow. I STILL don't have any problem with anyone dropping out, but I also think we need to do something to get this moving Forward again. :-\ I'm almost ready to pay the remaining $20.00 myself, just to close this up.
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Fellas, relax. I've been in touch with jbressel, as I have noted and he has been indisposed. I also made a post on the subject in the FF 2.0 thread and we laid out a rule for delayed payments, which I re-posted here and he has been in touch with me since then. When I have had information I have posted it, but frankly I had some information which it was not my business to share.
He contacted me over he weekend and I responded just a few minutes ago and I expect payment within the next day or so, at which time I will forward the full sum on to B-3.
I apologize for my part in the deficiency; my job often keeps me away and incommunicado on weekends from September to may. But I could have posted an additional filler update on the 25th, which I did fail to do.
jbressel is not at fault, as circumstances were beyond his control and he asked that I not cover his share in the interim and I respected his request.
B-3 has already noted that he is quite occupied with other work at this time as well, so everyone sit tight and within the next day or so we'll have this all wrapped up.
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Thanks for the update! O0
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That works for me! As B-3 said, Thanks for the Update! O0
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Thanks for the update Beachhead.
B-3 - personally, I have waited almost 20 years to purchase a second metal Rifleman to add to my BT miniature collection. So take your time, I am very happy to be patient and see it turn out to be a beautiful mini that we can all be proud of.
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Thanks for the update beachhead
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Thank you for being so understanding folks.
jbressel sent the money just after midnight last night and I send B-3 the cash just a few minutes ago.
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I got it! O0 I'm done with the Kodiak II and am doing Orthos for the APC's and Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N. If anyone wants to help with orthos, your efforts will be MUCH appreciated. I need a place to start not alotta details.
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huzzah
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If anyone wants to help with orthos, your efforts will be MUCH appreciated. I need a place to start not alotta details.
Please tell us what you need.
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Example Orthos from IAMCLANWOLF:
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Zeus-4X-512689637?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=2
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Malice-512688865?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=3
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Example Orthos from IAMCLANWOLF:
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Zeus-4X-512689637?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=2
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Malice-512688865?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=3
Better let IACW do that. my art skills suck :P
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A lot of you have been contacting me regarding your vouchers and when you will be getting them.
Well, I always want to be upfront and honest with everything I say and do and with that in mind fellas, I need to admit to you that I dropped the ball on this.
It's been remedied now, but what needed to happen was that the email addresses and amounts for all my fellow fundians needed to be passed on to Speck and to be honest; I forgot to do that. It's fixed now, and you should get your vouchers soon, but the original mess was my fault and I want to apologize for that.
Frankly, I am one of those guys who tends to learn by asking a lot of dumb questions and finding all the wrong ways to do something before I find the right ones.
I just hope this didn't put any big kinks in anyone's plans.
Beachhead.
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No problems Beachhead, thanks for the update. If the problem is sorted then no harm done. We have all made mistakes first day on the job so do not publically flagellate yourself too much over it.
"Success does not consist of never making mistakes but in never making the same one a second time." - George Bernard Shaw
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No problem here I'll be saving mine for the Rifleman and some other goody. O0
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A lot of you have been contacting me regarding your vouchers and when you will be getting them.
Well, I always want to be upfront and honest with everything I say and do and with that in mind fellas, I need to admit to you that I dropped the ball on this.
It's been remedied now, but what needed to happen was that the email addresses and amounts for all my fellow fundians needed to be passed on to Speck and to be honest; I forgot to do that. It's fixed now, and you should get your vouchers soon, but the original mess was my fault and I want to apologize for that.
Frankly, I am one of those guys who tends to learn by asking a lot of dumb questions and finding all the wrong ways to do something before I find the right ones.
I just hope this didn't put any big kinks in anyone's plans.
Beachhead.
I will be sending out the credit within the next few days.
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Thanks for the update Speck
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awesome news
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Thanks to both Beachhead and Speck! ;)
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How does this grab ya? :D
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFLMN-1N.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFLMN-1N.jpg.html)
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It does look great! It is a great and awesome job.
Some nitpicks. I think that the lower legs should be wider. Also, the hip joints should be somewhat wider, too. In the torso, in the panels between the cockpit and the "shoulder", they form an angle in the upper panel that it is more noticeable in the art that in the orto. Finally the back should have something extra, like a small protrusion for extra heat sinks, to link it with other variants. But this is only my opinion and it doesn't stain your awesome work. O0
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How does this grab ya? :D
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFLMN-1N.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFLMN-1N.jpg.html)
How soon can I get it in my greedy little hands!!!
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WANT! 8) Everything I like about the design
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I just noticed that this kind of resembles the MWO Blackjack???
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How does this grab ya? :D
Good, but please:
- slightly thicker AC boxes
- A little bit of space between the intakes and cockpit.
- the lower legs a bit more beefier.
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Beefier legs.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final.png.html)
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Hell YES!!
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Wider AC boxes, slightly wider vents.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_1.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_1.png.html)
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[notworthy] [notworthy] [notworthy] Awesome, it looks beautiful! Great work!
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Wider AC boxes, slightly wider vents.
Nice.
Could we get an enlarged ortho of the Sensor assembly?
Also I am a bit concerned about the rear of the legs, could you please make an ortho of that too?
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Please include spare barrels with the mini.
In case, you know, the regular barrels ... umm ... bend during transit and not at all to be mounted underneath the regular barrels in that nice rectangular slot area ...
W.
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I actually like this design. However you cockpit looks like it needs just a little more beef.
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I actually like this design. However you cockpit looks like it needs just a little more beef.
You mean like having become slightly wider at the torso?
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Thank you everyone for being so understanding.
Thanks also to Speck for bringing this last bit of the paperwork so to speak, to rest.
B-3, you are doing great man.
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You mean like having become slightly wider at the torso?
Yep, it looks like a reinforced cockpit in the art, at least to my eyes. Could be wrong.
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How does this grab ya?
Things look off with the side view of the legs. 1) Too much ankle actuator showing, 2) knee actuator and thigh pushed too far forward, 3) "knee pad" too short--should be taller than knee actuator, 4) inner outer side calf armor polygon sides and angles are out of proportion to the original art (i.e. front side of calf armor appears like it should be parallel to rear upper side--heck it looks like it should be a rectangle with corners bobbed to different depths).
I know they match up with the front ortho view, but in the original art the knees appear slightly bent. Straightening them would mate the top of the "knee pad" with the bottom of the thick thigh armor instead of leaving a large gap as in the ortho. I'm not entirely sure how to fix this all and make it match up.
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After this I'm done orthoing. Sculpting will commence shortly. Any more changes will be up to thems what has the time to make em. Barrels will be built into the "arm" so no extra barrels.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFL-1N%20FRONT%20FINAL.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFL-1N%20FRONT%20FINAL.png.html)
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Great work! [notworthy] [notworthy]
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It really is beautiful but again something about it is also resembling the MWO Blackjack :(
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looks great. can't wait to see it up close.
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and not at all to be mounted underneath the regular barrels in that nice rectangular slot area ...
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Right on, WT!
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After this I'm done orthoing. Sculpting will commence shortly. Any more changes will be up to thems what has the time to make em. Barrels will be built into the "arm" so no extra barrels.
Then we will need to find some extra barrels somewhere...
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I know I said no more Orthoing but I just had to change the legs after reading Cache's post.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_3.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_3.png.html)
The QCC has suggested a height of 42mm.
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That looks great!
Q: did the original artist supply you with any detailing for the rear side? Or do you have to think of something?
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That looks great!
Q: did the original artist supply you with any detailing for the rear side? Or do you have to think of something?
Thanks!
All I get is the original art no other views. I was going to do something similar to the Reseen Rifleman on the back.
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Then we will need to find some extra barrels somewhere...
Somehow I doubt you people that Mod minis will have any problems finding brass rod and plastic tubing. :D
The rest of us are SOL, However. :(
I realize where the idea for the Original Rifleman came from, but I'm wondering what the "In Universe" Logic is for switching from the "Side-by-Side" gun configuration of the Primitive to the "Over/Under" Configuration of the "Later" version. ??? The Jagermech and Marauder are both "Over/Under" after all.
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The new legs look great!
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Great work B-3, looks great so far O0 Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?
Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels? >:D
It really is beautiful but again something about it is also resembling the MWO Blackjack :(
TS Hawk - I can see where you are coming from in relation to the arm layout in the front ortho (it is very similar to the look of the MWO Blackjack from head on but if you look at the original art and the side ortho I think we will find that the actual 3D sculpt of the arms will look different to the arms of a MWO Blackjack. Orthos can be a bit deceptive.
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Great work B-3, looks great so far O0 Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?
Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels? >:D
My suggestion is to have the arm or weapon sprue added to the IWM scrap yard. Then people can just order the parts needed for the conversion.
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Great work B-3, looks great so far O0 Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?
Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels? >:D
That is something that would most likely need Mikes approval. Maybe CGL as well since it would deviate from what the art is for that variant. I will ask about it on the QCC thread.
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Thanks Speck, but please note the >:D
I am not trying to create trouble or more work for you, Mike or CGL. If TPTB decide that it is "flying too close to the envelope" then I will not rant on this forum or anywhere else. I am very appreciative of everything we have already and the efforts that all TPTB make in keeping BT alive and going.
The fact that I have been accorded the privilege of being a small part of bringing the primitive Rifleman to life in pewter is already a humbling experience for me. Thank you.
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So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?
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That is something that would most likely need Mikes approval. Maybe CGL as well since it would deviate from what the art is for that variant. I will ask about it on the QCC thread.
I will be game for it :)
TS Hawk - I can see where you are coming from in relation to the arm layout in the front ortho (it is very similar to the look of the MWO Blackjack from head on but if you look at the original art and the side ortho I think we will find that the actual 3D sculpt of the arms will look different to the arms of a MWO Blackjack. Orthos can be a bit deceptive.
I don't get what Orthos means :( I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age
So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?
they said soon on the previous page
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I don't get what Orthos means :( I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age
Apologies, thank you for reminding me that not forum-ite has an engineering/technical background. Ortho = Orthographic Projection which is commonly used in engineering/technical drawing. What many laypeople call "plans". Wikipedia explains it better than I can (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiview_orthographic_projection)
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So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?
It's on my to do list for tomorrow night. I had a convention and then computer issues. So spent weekend catching up on other items that I need to get done.
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I will be game for it :)
I don't get what Orthos means :( I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age
they said soon on the previous page
It's basically a guide to help with the sculpting process.
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An ortho has a similar function as blueprint if you will.
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As mech42ace said when I say "plans" in English I mean "blueprints" in American. I really should have checked my Lonely Planet USA Phasebook before I posted. :-[
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Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.
W ;)
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As mech42ace said when I say "plans" in English I mean "blueprints" in American. I really should have checked my Lonely Planet USA Phasebook before I posted. :-[
Sorry about that feenix, I meant no insult when I posted.
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Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.
W ;)
Hey! just cause bad english isn't your native tongue! ;D
Anyways, Can't wait to see how this ends up anyways. Good luck B-3.
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No problems mate, no insult/offence taken O0
Much appreciate the assist in getting my "American" right. I still remember the time when I was at the Boeing staff cafeteria many years ago and the lady serving me had a good giggle because I asked if I could have my lunch order as "takeaway" instead of "takeout".
Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.
W ;)
"English spoken, American mis-understood" ^-^
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Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.
W ;)
Because the space on the back of your car so totally resembles something you wear on your foot, instead of a box with a lid that you store things in, am I right? ;D
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You'd think that Australia, who as we all know is completely populated by convicts*, would need phones in their lockups, and would use the phrase "cell phone". But no, these survivors in Ghu's own destructive testing area walk around talking, and call those cunning slices of silicon, plastic & status "mobile phones".
And don't start me on American toilet bowls ...
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You'd think that Australia, who as we all know is completely populated by convicts*
Inconceivable! :D
At least can we pronounce "alu-min-ium" properly. Shameless attempt to tie this back into the topic - I might have to buy an extra set of primitive rifleman arms, get some aluminium or brass rod/tubing to add an over-under AC barrels to the arms plus use a hobby knife and files to kitbash a primitive rifleman that can be reconfigured as required.
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Aluminum :D
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Aluminum :D
Correct! Note that we don't need to insert extra letters into words that don't require them. I'm looking at you, "armour"!
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and we can get our 'e' and 'r' in the right order 'theater' as opposed to 'theatre' or 'center' instead of 'centre'
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All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them ^-^
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All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them ^-^
Lol, well played. :)
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All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them ^-^
or how we avoid getting our words confused with French ones
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Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.
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Cheers and many thanks Speck. I dusted mine off after retrieving it from the Junk folder. Perfect timing for my next order with Melissa.
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Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.
Thank you!
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Cheers and many thanks Speck. I dusted mine off after retrieving it from the Junk folder. Perfect timing for my next order with Melissa.
The voucher would need to be used through the online store since that is how it is managed and kept track of when used.
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Got mine last night. Thanks, Speck! O0
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Thank you!!
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Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.
Received, thanks!
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Thanks, mine is also in!
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Thanks Speck! O0 Now I just have to wait until the newest round of OE minis get released before I can spend my Credit! ;D I double-checked the Guidelines and read this:
Step 4: Once Behrle has been paid, then we will create the thread on our QCC forum and sculpting will begin. When sculpting has been complete and approved by QCC it will be turned into IWM, then we will open up other Funding thread until all six of the poll winners have been sculpted. Once all six winners have been funded and sculpted, another suggestion thread will not be opened until the next quarter. The completed sculpted items will be worked onto the web only release schedule.
What are the chances we'll see the Primitive Rifleman available for sale this year? ??? I'm guessing 4th Quarter at the Soonest, if we're Lucky? :-\
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I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them.
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I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them.
Nice! Bravo, Sir, bravo!
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I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them.
Woohoo! You're a machine, B-3! O0
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I am not sure if I can wait for the mechs and vees with that great deal they are having on buildings
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Has everyone who funded gotten their store credit voucher?
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I have. Just haven't activated it yet.
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I sent them all out to the provided email address. If you do not see it in your inbox then check your spam folder.
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I have mine...haven't activated it yet but really not sure if I should wait to use it when the Prim and the Vees are released or get that sweet deal on the buildings ?
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Mine will go towards the 1st Quarter OE minis, but I'm going to wait until I pitch in on the Primitive Griffin before I buy anything. Might as well make one order instead of two, right? O0
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Mine will go towards the 1st Quarter OE minis, but I'm going to wait until I pitch in on the Primitive Griffin before I buy anything. Might as well make one order instead of two, right? O0
My sentiments exactly!
I have plans for the Griffin... Multiple. Copies. Of. ::cough::
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I got mine. Anyone else still stray on vouchers for this?
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Wadayathink?
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20F%201.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20F%201.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20B1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20B1.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20L.jpg.html)
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Will the medium lasers be visible on the final metal mini?
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They're visible on the master, you just hafta look closely. ;)
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Good that I have a drill bit then. ;) /jk
Another thing, comparing the master (see attachment) with the TRO picture, these seem to stick out way too far.
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Hmmm yes you're right about the hip pieces sticking out too far. Fixing that. You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface?
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What is the silver thing? (Besides a radar dish.) What was it in its previous incarnation?
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It was a radar dish on one of my ship designs.
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You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface?
Why not small hemispheres that are recessed? 8)
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(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20hip%20redo.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20hip%20redo.jpg.html)
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With the dish shifted to one side, it would inhibit the pilot from flipping the weapons over to fire backwards
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The one I used is only 3mm larger in diameter (1.5mm on each side) than what the design called for. The one in the design would interfere as well though not as much. If this was a real machine the gun would automatically deviate to avoid the radome as it traversed to the rear.
I think too much. :D
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If this was a real machine the gun would automatically deviate to avoid the radome as it traversed to the rear.
Or the arms would flip down and under rather than up and over. ;)
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Or the arms would flip down and under rather than up and over. ;)
Yeah that! O0
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I think those hip bits should be flipped upside down and be flush with the front of the pelvis.
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Looking good so far!
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Looking good Behrle O0
Did you machine the brass rod for the arm-mounted ACs yourself? Or are they a standard brass piece that would-be kitbashers may be able to procure ^-^
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Looking good Behrle O0
Did you machine the brass rod for the arm-mounted ACs yourself? Or are they a standard brass piece that would-be kitbashers may be able to procure ^-^
Thats a one off turning I did for this piece. I will probably mold it seperately and cast it in pewter for future projects.
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As an engineer, I think your plan to mold the AC barrels separately for the primitive Rifleman casting is probably the best engineering solution to the vexing issue of how owners of the pewter minis can replace AC barrels that may get damaged in-transit when they are moving minis from game to game.
This would mean that IWM would have to make AC barrels available through the IWM webstore scrapyard, so that owners of the primitive Rifleman minis can pre-purchase additional barrels as attrition spares in case the barrels get damaged in-transit. In fact, I will probably just have to buy a couple of attrition spares as part of my primitive Rifleman purchase ^-^
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You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface?
MY impression from the XTRO art is that the medium lasers stick up a little bit in their recessed boxes. WHY have them in a recessed housing, then stick out, I've NO idea. :D That's just how they look TO ME.
Since I'm NO artist, the best I can think of for a visual is: An empty 2Lb box of velveeta cheese (representing the "Housing"), with a jar of Kraft Pimento Spread standing up in it (representing the medium laser), but NOT sticking up above the sides of the box. Does that make any sense? ??? To ME, they seem to project out from their BASE, but NOT outside of their housing.
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[drool] Want now [drool] WANT NOW
I think she looks great, I do agree that the radar may need to be shifted.
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I think those hip bits should be flipped upside down and be flush with the front of the pelvis.
Done!
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20revised%20hip1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20revised%20hip1.jpg.html)
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B-3,
First let me say, I wish I had half your talent. Having said that, please review the attached amended ortho which depicts what I think is a more accurate interpretation of those hip doohickeys.
I think they are shielding for the hip servos and hydraulics.
I think you nailed it on your front ortho, but on the side view somehow they got skewed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/Primitive%20Rifleman%20Ortho_zpsbewhouod.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dickjensen/media/Primitive%20Rifleman%20Ortho_zpsbewhouod.jpg.html)
I hope that helps.
-DJ
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Thanks DJ! :D
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When does the suggestion Thread for the 2nd quarter open?
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Thanks DJ! :D
My pleasure.
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When does the suggestion Thread for the 2nd quarter open?
Considering that we are about half-way..... it would likely be in the 3rd quarter.
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Great work! It is an awesome sculpt. O0 O0
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Thanks everyone! This one is approved and delivered to IWM as of 11:00 this morning! O0 Let the Highlander fundication begin! :D
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Fast turnaround time B-3! It impresses me how fast you can churn a prototype out at such high quality! Keep it up! O0
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That's the plan, as long as my eyesight and sanity hold out. Well, eyesight at least the other is a lost cause... :D
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Thanks everyone! This one is approved and delivered to IWM as of 11:00 this morning! O0 Let the Highlander fundication begin! :D
What? No final picture of the master for us to drool over? >:D
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Here you go!
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20B.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20B.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20S.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20S.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20Scale_1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20Scale_1.jpg.html)
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By the Dice Gods it is so adorable.
Yeah I'm buying some when I get the chance.
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Definitely grabbing a couple when it comes out. Nice work!
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Welp.
Weeelp.
Welp.
I was slating my plate for one of these.
I think I might have to try to swing another one or two.
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That Sir is a thing of beauty.
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Love it! O0
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I Love it, but I can already hear the whining now. ::)
"But it's only 50 tons and it's as big as an Assault 'Mech!" :P
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I Love it, but I can already hear the whining now. ::)
"But it's only 50 tons and it's as big as an Assault 'Mech!" :P
It is primitive and thus bulky!
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Woah! That went fast!
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Looks great O0
B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?
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It is primitive and thus bulky!
I don't have any problems with it, I'm just saying how some people are about petty, inconsequential things like that. :D
I'm looking forward to buying a Lance of these! :Jumpy: EXCELLENT work B-3! O0 [applause] [applause]
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I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.
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Looks great O0
B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?
Typically, the company will make a mold from the original sculpt, and use that top cast a more durable set of masters in pewter. Those masters are then used to make the production molds. (Which typically make more than one model per spin.)
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I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.
Awesome, you won the internet with that pic!
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I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D
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I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D
Yes, you did. Now back to the workbench with you! >:D
Please and thank you.
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Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.
It has been an honour and a priviledge to be able to be involved in the fundication for this. My thanks go to speck, B-3, Beachhead and my fellow fundicators for this opportunity.
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I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.
That's how it is usually done. Behrle is the exception to the rule ;)
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Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.
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Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.
What!?! Only one?
[JediMindTrick]You will buy TWO![/JediMindTrick]
abou: "You know, it looks so good, I should buy at least 2 of them!"
Good decision! O0
:D
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I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D
Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor! [cheers]
The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!
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Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor! [cheers]
The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!
Well thanks! I am also a goldsmith and jeweler and do lots of custom jewelry design. I can cast gold, silver and bronze so pewter is pretty easy.
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Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.
B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene. The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.
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B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene. The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.
I had actually been wondering about that. The APC masters looked like they had styrene parts, but I didn't think that was possible, based on conversations with fantasy sculptors. I have seen how a green can be mangled during the high-pressure step of vulcanization.
This explains it!
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Question for anyone with half an educated guess, is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works. Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.
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Question for anyone with half an educated guess, is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works. Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.
Once B-3 sends his own masters to IWM, it's just a question of when they have an open slot in the mold-making queue. It seems to take at least 3 months, and sometimes 6 or more, but I don't think there is a strict rule for it.
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So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.
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That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0
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Sweet! O0
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That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0
I Second that! Please pass along My Thanks as Well! O0 It looks like I'll be using some of my "Primitive Rifleman Pledge Funds" to actually buy some of them!
And of course by "Some" I mean a Lance of them. 8)
Thanks Especially to B-3/Mr. Hubbuch, of course! MORE Amazing work! [cheers] [applause] [applause]
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oh great news that means then once they go up I can spend some of my vouchers :)
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Speck - could I ask a massive favour?
As one of the proud fundicators of this miniature, could you please provide us with some feedback on how well this miniature sells at Origins?
Does not need to be exact number (although that would be nice ;) ) but even if it is just a "It is a dog with fleas and nobody wanted to touch it" or "It sold ok" or "We sold most of them" or "We sold most of them on the first day and we had to get the team back at the factory to produce another batch and Fedex it in for us" or "Watch the Columbus news to see the block riots it caused"
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So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.
Like I said, no strict rule for it. :D
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Just opened the one I bought this morning. It took me a good 2 minutes to realize I was not in fact missing the legs, but that each leg came in 3 different parts. Oh boy am I going to have fun posing this guy. :D
Excellent mini.
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Ok, so we have made at least one sale :)
Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.
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Ok, so we have made at least one sale :)
Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.
I'd love to see some pics, as I plan to pick one or two up as soon as they go up on the site. :)
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My next order will include one for myself as well as stock for my online store and hopefully at least one of my regular customers.
I would offer to hook you up with one but unfortunately, unless you are here downunder, the freight cost from Ohio to Australia then back to where you are in the States means it is probably more cost effective for you to buy local (I can recommend Aries Games and Miniatures run by Dragon41673 from this forum) or direct from the IWM webstore.
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Another question, how much is the Primative Rifleman retailing for?
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Bought it at Origins for $12.50 US Dollars
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Can you use the Rifleman 6X arms on it?
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Cheers and many thanks Malk! O0
If US$12.50 is the IWM RRP then I think they should sell pretty well.
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Just got back from Origins. I can confirm that this mini is, in fact, dead sexy.
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Need an assembled, next to an Unseen and Reseen RFL, picture please. Thank you. :D
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Just got back from Origins. I can confirm that this mini is, in fact, dead sexy.
Really, the biggest problem with this mini is that I don't have one. ;)
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Really, the biggest problem with this mini is that I don't have one. ;)
Hoping by the weekend it will be up on the website. Have some assembly to do on a bunch of new stuff that came out at origins for images for webstore.
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Speck...do you have a part number on this guy? I've got an order sitting at IWM right now & I'd love to include some.
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Hoping by the weekend it will be up on the website. Have some assembly to do on a bunch of new stuff that came out at origins for images for webstore.
Waiting on this and the APC's to use some of my voucher credit.
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OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done. I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it. We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going! :D
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OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done. I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it. We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going! :D
Did you mean to put this in the Highlander thread? Either way, I'm excite to help fund the next 2 sculpts.
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It seemed the most logical place to put it. :D
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OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done. I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it. We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going! :D
we never even saw the griffin Orthos!
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So any pics of the finished Rifleman?
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Got a little ahead of myself, sorry. I'll post the Griffin orthos and Highlander photos tomorrow including 734 and 738 bits.
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Posted pics of mine I put together. Not the greatest paint job ever but it gets the job done.
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/miniatures/got-my-rifleman-1-n-done/
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Any update on when it will be up on the site? It's killing me to wait. [drool]
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Any update on when it will be up on the site? It's killing me to wait. [drool]
this will be up after gencon. Busy getting ready for show this week and just got back from Historicon.
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Thanks for the update O0
I just cant wait to pick one up. ;D
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I'm getting mine at Gen Con
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I'm getting mine at Gen Con
I'd like to, but I have so much fan financing credit tied up, that I kind of have to wait until it hits the online store. :-\
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I'd like to, but I have so much fan financing credit tied up, that I kind of have to wait until it hits the online store. :-\
Unless I start fundicating new sculpts at a 100% level, my shopping list will always exceed any credits I build up through fan financing. :D
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Locking thread since the Rifleman has been released.