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Title: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 02 February 2015, 21:23:02
This is the Funding thread for Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV and it needs $800.00 to be Funded.

Current Funds total $800.00, so it is FUNDED
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: TS_Hawk on 03 February 2015, 00:04:37
I will do $25
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: beachhead1985 on 03 February 2015, 09:17:33
I'll toss in another $20 here for sure.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Maingunnery on 03 February 2015, 11:59:02

I will start out with 50$.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: God and Davion on 03 February 2015, 12:53:15
I'm for 100 $
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: The Wayfarer on 03 February 2015, 13:45:59
$50.

Thanks.

Mike
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Heavyguard on 03 February 2015, 14:52:57
$75 From me here.
 
 Heavyguard
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: GRUD on 03 February 2015, 15:01:10
I'll pitch in $100.00.


I'll spend that much at Gen Con anyway.    ::)

:D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Saint on 03 February 2015, 20:12:16
I could throw in $25 as well. O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Azakael on 03 February 2015, 21:12:56
Welp. I voted for it. I'm down for $30 on this one.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: mdauben on 04 February 2015, 09:52:51
I'll pop for $25.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: abou on 04 February 2015, 17:50:43
I'm in for $100.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: speck on 04 February 2015, 21:48:11
See first post for update on amount remaining.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Feenix74 on 04 February 2015, 22:22:13
I bid US$25.

Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 February 2015, 09:19:28
we do not have a coord for this one, yet, right? it is *not* Cache, who is doing the APCs?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: speck on 05 February 2015, 10:03:40
we do not have a coord for this one, yet, right? it is *not* Cache, who is doing the APCs?

As of now, there is not a lead contact for this one.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: TS_Hawk on 05 February 2015, 13:37:05
I vote for Beachhead :)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 February 2015, 14:26:41
I vote for Beachhead :)

uh...how do I do that?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: klarg1 on 05 February 2015, 16:23:02
uh...how do I do that?

You send PMs to all the pledgers to get them to send money to you, and then laugh maniacally forward the payment to Behrle.

You probably also have to nag slow payers to get the money together. That part sounds less fun.

There's a whole process posted in the rules thread.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 February 2015, 17:04:28
You send PMs to all the pledgers to get them to send money to you, and then laugh maniacally forward the payment to Behrle.

You probably also have to nag slow payers to get the money together. That part sounds less fun.

There's a whole process posted in the rules thread.

Well shucks, I guess I could manage that.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: D.Jensen on 05 February 2015, 20:21:15
Put me in for $50


That brings the total pledged from all backers to $675 as of this post.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: speck on 05 February 2015, 21:22:38
Updated the first post.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: jbressel on 08 February 2015, 05:01:32
I'll throw $25 at this bad boy!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Sartris on 10 February 2015, 11:03:59
$25
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: klarg1 on 10 February 2015, 11:55:52
I can't stand to see this project suffer.
Put me down for the last $75 needed to get it done.


Beachhead, are you organizing?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Minnow on 10 February 2015, 13:51:13
Put me down for $75
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: D.Jensen on 10 February 2015, 16:16:53
That's $875!!


I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: mdauben on 10 February 2015, 16:28:30
I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
I was quite surprised, too.  I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong.   ???
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Feenix74 on 10 February 2015, 16:38:25
A few people have expressed their preference in the question thread for funding "new" minis (ie minis for mechs/vehicles which currently do not have a mini) not just another "reimage" of an unseen that we already have reseen versions of. I respect people's right to have this point of view.

I have contributed a small amount but I was reluctant to do so as first because I have not seen the art for the primitive Rifleman yet (XTRO Primitives IV is on my long wishlist). However my desire to help IWM (who have been good to me) and dislike of the reseen Rifleman overcame my fear of the unknown.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: beachhead1985 on 10 February 2015, 16:41:11
That's $875!!


I'm surprised how long this one took to fund compared to the APC! Can anyone explain that phenomenon?

Wait, do we whittle that down now? Does the last guy not get in, or do we keep it as extra to the sculpt, or what?

Follow-up question; that's Funded, then right? Now I PM everyone, conf and distribute paypal info for funding collection and forwarding to B-3, correct? or wait out?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: DarkISI on 10 February 2015, 16:43:35
A few people have expressed their preference in the question thread for funding "new" minis (ie minis for mechs/vehicles which currently do not have a mini) not just another "reimage" of an unseen that we already have reseen versions of. I respect people's right to have this point of view.

I have contributed a small amount but I was reluctant to do so as first because I have not seen the art for the primitive Rifleman yet (XTRO Primitives IV is on my long wishlist). However my desire to help IWM (who have been good to me) and dislike of the reseen Rifleman overcame my fear of the unknown.


Here you go :)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Savage Coyote on 10 February 2015, 17:00:56
I was quite surprised, too.  I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong.   ???

"Old School" trumps anything new in BattleTech I think...  :D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Cyc on 10 February 2015, 17:17:13
"Old School" trumps anything new in BattleTech I think...  :D

Primitives are in a weird spot though where some are using/preferring them as a analogs for Unseen. Perhaps the APC fans were just more rabid.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Azakael on 10 February 2015, 17:46:23
Primitives are in a weird spot though where some are using/preferring them as a analogs for Unseen. Perhaps the APC fans were just more rabid.

Yup. That's my plan. I have a 3025 Merc company that'll use primitives to replace their old Unseen analog.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Feenix74 on 10 February 2015, 17:54:47
Here you go :)

Thanks mate, you are a gentleman and a scholar  O0

Looks good. Very happy I have the privilege of being involved in turning it from 2D art into a 3D miniature pewter armament and I will purchase a couple to sit along side my one unseen Rifleman mini and be used as proxies for the unseen Rifleman.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Cache on 10 February 2015, 18:29:19
Can anyone explain that phenomenon?
I guess that's what happens when people who do not intend to pledge/buy are allowed to vote for what gets done.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: Bartholomew bartholomew on 10 February 2015, 18:58:27
I intend to do both, Was gonna chip in on the APC's but it was finished before I even knew it was started. But the next one I will chip in on if I think it is the one I think it is gonna be.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: speck on 10 February 2015, 20:32:55
I can't stand to see this project suffer.
Put me down for the last $75 needed to get it done.


Beachhead, are you organizing?

After this pledge we reached the $800, so it is Funded..

Put me down for $75

Minnow will be back up if everyone else can not contribute what they pledge in there posts.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: speck on 10 February 2015, 20:39:38
Wait, do we whittle that down now? Does the last guy not get in, or do we keep it as extra to the sculpt, or what?

Follow-up question; that's Funded, then right? Now I PM everyone, conf and distribute paypal info for funding collection and forwarding to B-3, correct? or wait out?

I already posted in a thread above this that the last guy will be on deck if someone can not contribute that they posted. We can only collect the $800 for the sculpt. So next step PM all the people who pledged except the last guy (I sent a email to him about sculpt being Funded by the pledge before his), Collect money in paypal and then forward onto B-3. Also collect names, amount contributed and emails, I will need that information for emailing the Vouchers.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV
Post by: klarg1 on 10 February 2015, 21:55:20
I was quite surprised, too.  I would have expected a lot more excitment for the Primitive Rifleman than for some APCs, but obviously I was wrong.   ???

For my own part, I wanted both sculpts (These were two of my three votes!), but I nominated the APC's, and have been wanting them for much longer than the primitive Rifleman has been in-print, so I threw my money over there.

I don't know how other people felt, but, at the time, I thought it would be more productive to concentrate my budget on one project to get it done, rather than split it. I don't know that that's "right".

In either case, there are actually more funders for the rifleman than the APCs (67% the pledgers for 125% the money). The vehicles got a small number of large pledges up front, which brought them close to funding in a real hurry. That probably bodes well for sales volume on the rifleman, assuming each pledger represents a sampling of market interest.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 10 February 2015, 22:58:09
I voted for the Primitive Griffin and Rifleman, and intend to help fund them both (I've already pledged for the Rifleman).  While I didn't vote for the others, and don't intend to help fund them, I'm sure I'll buy some of them when they're released, namely the APCs.  Basically, once they're up for sale I'll be "Voting" for them with my wallet.   O0


While there's the Argument that the Primitives can be seen as Resculpts, they're actually significantly Different enough from the originals that I Personally don't see them as Resculpts.  I DON'T feel that way about the Flashman or Highlander though, or any other "Resculpt" that was on the Voting Poll.  I'll have to wait and see what any "new" mini of them looks like before I decide to buy yet another copy of it.  I haven't seen the art for the Black Knight "Red Reaper" either, so I've no idea how "Different" it might/might not be from the original.   :-\
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 11 February 2015, 07:58:34
  I haven't seen the art for the Black Knight "Red Reaper" either, so I've no idea how "Different" it might/might not be from the original.   :-\

I think it's lurking in DarkISI's signature.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: DarkISI on 11 February 2015, 07:59:31
Black Knight Red Reaper artwork:
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5783/black-knight-bl-x-knt-red-reaper
(http://www.masterunitlist.info/Image/RenderImage?width=300&height=400&file=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.masterunitlist.info%2FBattleMechs%2FXTRO%20Most%20Wanted%2FBlack%20Knight%20BL-X-KNT.jpg)

XTRO: Most Wanted (http://bg.battletech.com/test/epubs/battletech-experimental-technical-readout-most-wanted/) is actually well worth the buy, not just to support this beautiful piece of artwork. You get a lot of great fluff and story/scenarios/campaign ideas out of it, too. :)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 11 February 2015, 10:16:35
Thanks for the picture!   O0


So it's a Black Knight with a sword and shield then.  Couldn't you just use an AD&D Paladin figure as a proxy?   :D


Seriously though, while the head seems to be a little shorter than the usual BK, I can definitely see this is VASTLY different from the regular model.  A mini of this would certainly NOT be a "Resculpt"!  While I Probably won't pitch in towards getting it made, I'm sure I'll buy a couple minis when they're released at least.  O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mike19k on 11 February 2015, 10:58:49
I see the primitives are different than the originals but as you can use the originals as the primitives and the primitives as originals I see them as kind of a resculpt, as there are lots of things that do not yet have any sculpt I do not plan to put money towards resculpts tell they are done.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 11 February 2015, 11:29:50
I see the primitives are different than the originals but as you can use the originals as the primitives and the primitives as originals I see them as kind of a resculpt, as there are lots of things that do not yet have any sculpt I do not plan to put money towards resculpts tell they are done.
I see your point, and I've got enough Unseen minis myself that I don't "Need" the Primitives.  However, I DO like the looks of them enough to buy them, AND there are MANY people out there that either don't have ANY Unseen, or that don't have enough of them to suit them.  One of the Complaints about the Unseen/Originals after all is that they're just NOT available anymore.  The "Secondary Market" for them is being polluted with fakes, so that makes buying them chancy also.   :-\  Even the Reputable sources for them generally only have 1 or 2 for sale at a time, then it's weeks or months before they have any more, if ever.


But like you, I'll not be funding Resculpts, Clan or WoB stuff.  I'll fund what I like, and nothing else.  ;)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 11 February 2015, 12:34:21
Let's get back on topic for this thread. Do we have a lead contact for this funded Primitive Rifleman.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 11 February 2015, 12:41:39
Hey guys, yeah it's me. Going to take a stab at this.

So here are are funders;...fundites? Fundians?

TS_Hawk 25
Me 25
Maingunnery 50
God and Davion 100
The Wayfarer 50
heavy guard 75
GRUD 100
Saint 25
Azakael 30
mdauben 25
abou 100
Feenix74
D.Jensen 50
jbressel 25
Sartris 25
klarg1 75

Minnow 75, first alternate
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 11 February 2015, 12:56:57
Hey guys, yeah it's me. Going to take a stab at this.

So here are are funders;...fundites? Fundians?

People funding this?

Dunno.
Either way, just PM me with the information to PayPal you, and I shall do so when I get home from work.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 11 February 2015, 13:07:31
Okay, the first of the Pms are in the pipe. I will send the rest shortly.

Those of you in on the APC funding may notice a *slight* similarity with the PM from Cache.

Sorry Cache, buddy; I steal only from the best.

Minnow; my plan at this time is only to contact you if someone defaults.

So let's cross our fingers and hope I did this right.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 11 February 2015, 18:35:14
Fundicators?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 11 February 2015, 19:09:42
Sorry Cache, buddy; I steal only from the best.
Don't worry, speck asked me to write up a guide for lead contacts.  It'll be pretty similar.

Also, I went with financiers.  But I'm not always the most creative.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 12 February 2015, 05:18:27
PayPal is delivering the money via the interweb thingy.

Noting the fact that the primitive Rifleman is a bit lighter in tonnage, may I suggest that the primitive Rifleman be close in size to the unseen Rifleman mini instead of the reseen Rifleman?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 12 February 2015, 10:02:50
Fundicators?

Fundamentals  8)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 12 February 2015, 10:51:39
*updated added TS _Hawk

Sitrep; 780 at this time.

TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid

Minnow 75, first alternate

How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 12 February 2015, 11:35:03
Maths look right to me.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 13 February 2015, 06:59:10
Paid in full. New daddy duties have kept me busy. :)

Cheers,
DJ
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 13 February 2015, 07:05:21
Paid in full. New daddy duties have kept me busy. :)

Cheers,
DJ
Then the current level should be 730, we are now in the last sprint.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 13 February 2015, 07:14:19
So, with the APC funded and this one almost paid for, when can we expect to see the funding threads for the next two.

Disappointed the Highlander resculpt is getting done. It doesn't look that much different from the original. I'd rather raise additional funds for updated artwork in the newer style and a new sculpt based on that.

Oh well, as my mother always said, "if wishes were horses, then beggars would ide."
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 13 February 2015, 09:10:46
So, with the APC funded and this one almost paid for, when can we expect to see the funding threads for the next two.

Disappointed the Highlander resculpt is getting done. It doesn't look that much different from the original. I'd rather raise additional funds for updated artwork in the newer style and a new sculpt based on that.

Oh well, as my mother always said, "if wishes were horses, then beggars would ide."

Still better than my version; "if wishes were fishes; we'd all eat ground beef."
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 13 February 2015, 09:51:54
That should read "beggars would ride" not ide.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 15 February 2015, 19:32:20
*updated added TS _Hawk

Sitrep; 780 at this time.

TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid

Minnow 75, first alternate

How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?

I think in our financing frenzy we over pledged. As jbressel is the last financier yet to have paid, probably your easiest solution is, with jbressel's agreement, drop his contrubtion back to $20. Alternatively you could drop yours back by $5 (to save having to do more paypal money transfers) or if nobody else wants to reduce their contribution you can drop my contribution back to $20 (but then you will need to paypal me back $5).
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 16 February 2015, 12:22:37

edit: it seems that I was wrong.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Stinger on 16 February 2015, 14:09:47
*updated added TS _Hawk

Sitrep; 780 at this time.

TS_Hawk 25 * paid
Myself 25 * paid
Maingunnery 50 * paid
God and Davion 100 * paid
The Wayfarer 50 * paid
heavy guard 75 * paid
GRUD 100 * paid
Saint 25 * paid
Azakael 30 * paid
mdauben 25 * paid
abou 100 * paid
Feenix74 25 * paid
D.Jensen 50 * paid
jbressel 25 * waiting to hear from
Sartris 25 * paid
klarg1 75 * paid

Minnow 75, first alternate

How did we get to 805? Who did I add up with the wrong amount?

Beachhead, you actually stated you were only doing 20 initially in your first post, and it says that you have paid 25 here.  I think that is the discrepancy...
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 16 February 2015, 14:42:53
Beachhead, you actually stated you were only doing 20 initially in your first post, and it says that you have paid 25 here.  I think that is the discrepancy...

Yeah, that would be me screwing up.

No dishonour fi I just do the 20 as pledged?

I think in our financing frenzy we over pledged. As jbressel is the last financier yet to have paid, probably your easiest solution is, with jbressel's agreement, drop his contrubtion back to $20. Alternatively you could drop yours back by $5 (to save having to do more paypal money transfers) or if nobody else wants to reduce their contribution you can drop my contribution back to $20 (but then you will need to paypal me back $5).

Yes, jbressel is out last guy. I have PM'd him again, nothing yet.

And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out. I seem to recall that I talked a lot about putting in form something the last time around and missed the boat and you guy even let me handle the money for this one.

besides that, we have all the cash.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 16 February 2015, 15:10:28
Yeah, that would be me screwing up.

No dishonour fi I just do the 20 as pledged?

Yes, jbressel is out last guy. I have PM'd him again, nothing yet.

And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out. I seem to recall that I talked a lot about putting in form something the last time around and missed the boat and you guy even let me handle the money for this one.

besides that, we have all the cash.

Without his pledge are we short and if so by how much?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 16 February 2015, 15:40:32
Without his pledge are we short and if so by how much?

$25, and Minnow was a first alternate with a $75 offer. Heh.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 16 February 2015, 22:12:10
And just so it exists somewhere, I don't think any of us would hate a boardmember forever if he needed to bow out.

I know I wouldn't have any problem with it.  Between 2002 and 2009, my '98 Saturn surprised me FOUR times with unexpected repairs that each ate nearly an entire paycheck.   >:(  My Dad and brother have each had to replace their washers and driers fairly unexpectedly also (not both at the same time, fortunately for them!), and I know those things aren't cheap either.  Things like that "Happen" to everyone, like it or not.   :-\  I think we should just be patient and understanding when/if it Does happen with someone that's pledged money.   O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: abou on 17 February 2015, 00:37:08
And we have time, too. B-3 isn't a machine that can crank out a bunch of sculpts at once. Maybe give jbressel until Friday.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 17 February 2015, 01:36:33
And we have time, too. B-3 isn't a machine that can crank out a bunch of sculpts at once. Maybe give jbressel until Friday.

something had to have happened. the person would post almost on a regular basis and to suddenly disappear?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 17 February 2015, 04:59:26
The pledgee in question has posted on the forum over the last couple of days, including today.

However, life happens. If a forum member has to drop out after having made a pledge, then that is life. It would be nice if, in that situation, if the pledgee was to post that they are unable to go through with their pledge because that would allow the Lead Financier to contact the backup pledgee(s) or seek new pledges with the minimal delay but again life happens and this may not always be possible.

I have suggested in the Fan Financing Questions thread that we should give the pledgee(s) two weeks from the Lead Financier's PM with payment details to make payment arrangements before we then move to the backup pledgee(s).
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 17 February 2015, 07:32:00
something had to have happened. the person would post almost on a regular basis and to suddenly disappear?
Don't know what's up but he didn't disappear.  He posted several times in the last few days.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: cavingjan on 17 February 2015, 08:00:23
Two other thoughts:
1. talk to B-3 to find out his timeline. If he is busy with other things, you could delay payment a little longer.
2. (this certainly can't be done in each instance but sometimes it might be easiest) lead funder drops the extra money in for the time being so it can be passed on in time and then if the payment is received, you're good. If not, get one of the backups to send the money. It may just require delaying the vouchers for everybody or doing the vouchers in two parts, if speck/IWM is willing. (this depends upon if someone has the spare cash and the missing amount is not excessive.)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 17 February 2015, 12:37:51
I posted over on the questions forum and we came up with a metric of 2 weeks pack initial emails going out to the fundians.

That was 11 feb, so two weeks hence gives us till the 25th and then Minnow is in the breach.


In the CF; we'd call this a "Warning Order" with implied tasks for both jbressel and minnow.

To reiterate; I have pm'd jbressel. So presumably he is aware.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 17 February 2015, 12:53:17
Yes, I am busy finishing the Kodiak II at the moment and will take a little while to get the APC's sculpted.  The payment can be delayed a little while so a Fundicator can get their pledge together.  This only delays the thread setup on the QCC a bit at this juncture.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 17 February 2015, 17:14:22
Yes, I am busy finishing the Kodiak II at the moment and will take a little while to get the APC's sculpted.  The payment can be delayed a little while so a Fundicator can get their pledge together.  This only delays the thread setup on the QCC a bit at this juncture.

Take your time; looking forward to that beast.

lol; "Fundicator" love it. I kill me.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 18 February 2015, 02:12:17
Don't know what's up but he didn't disappear.  He posted several times in the last few days.

I say then we beat him with a soggy udon noodle then :P
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 22 February 2015, 15:04:10
I have gotten in touch with jbressel. Things are good, we will get this sorted right quick.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 28 February 2015, 23:39:55
So when will this be officially funded?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 01 March 2015, 20:08:08
So when will this be officially funded?

I 2nd this.

Funding for this opened on 2 FEB, with the 1st pledge made on 3 FEB, and jbressel pledging on the 8th.  If there's something keeping him from being able to fulfill his pledge after this long, I think we need to go with the Alternate.  As Feenix74 suggested, it's been over 2 weeks, so I think we should go with Minnow.  I STILL don't have any problem with anyone dropping out, but I also think we need to do something to get this moving Forward again.   :-\  I'm almost ready to pay the remaining $20.00 myself, just to close this up.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 01 March 2015, 23:38:15
Fellas, relax. I've been in touch with jbressel, as I have noted and he has been indisposed. I also made a post on the subject in the FF 2.0 thread and we laid out a rule for delayed payments, which I re-posted here and he has been in touch with me since then. When I have had information I have posted it, but frankly I had some information which it was not my business to share.

He contacted me over he weekend and I responded just a few minutes ago and I expect payment within the next day or so, at which time I will forward the full sum on to B-3.

I apologize for my part in the deficiency; my job often keeps me away and incommunicado on weekends from September to may. But I could have posted an additional filler update on the 25th, which I did fail to do.

jbressel is not at fault, as circumstances were beyond his control and he asked that I not cover his share in the interim and I respected his request.

B-3 has already noted that he is quite occupied with other work at this time as well, so everyone sit tight and within the next day or so we'll have this all wrapped up.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 01 March 2015, 23:55:43
Thanks for the update! O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 02 March 2015, 00:15:51
That works for me!   As B-3 said, Thanks for the Update!  O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 02 March 2015, 01:01:21
Thanks for the update Beachhead.

B-3 - personally, I have waited almost 20 years to purchase a second metal Rifleman to add to my BT miniature collection. So take your time, I am very happy to be patient and see it turn out to be a beautiful mini that we can all be proud of.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 02 March 2015, 01:39:02
Thanks for the update beachhead
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 02 March 2015, 07:59:52
Thank you for being so understanding folks.

jbressel sent the money just after midnight last night and I send B-3 the cash just a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 02 March 2015, 10:19:05
I got it!  O0  I'm done with the Kodiak II and am doing Orthos for the APC's and Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N.  If anyone wants to help with orthos, your efforts will be MUCH appreciated.  I need a place to start not alotta details.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Sartris on 02 March 2015, 11:31:00
huzzah
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 02 March 2015, 13:00:50
If anyone wants to help with orthos, your efforts will be MUCH appreciated.  I need a place to start not alotta details.
Please tell us what you need.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Stinger on 02 March 2015, 13:47:28
Example Orthos from IAMCLANWOLF:

http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Zeus-4X-512689637?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=2
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Malice-512688865?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=3
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 02 March 2015, 14:09:39
Example Orthos from IAMCLANWOLF:

http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Zeus-4X-512689637?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=2
http://lky13.deviantart.com/art/Malice-512688865?q=gallery%3ALKY13%2F14850123&qo=3


Better let IACW do that. my art skills suck :P
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 09 March 2015, 16:54:49
A lot of you have been contacting me regarding your vouchers and when you will be getting them.

Well, I always want to be upfront and honest with everything I say and do and with that in mind fellas, I need to admit to you that I dropped the ball on this.

It's been remedied now, but what needed to happen was that the email addresses and amounts for all my fellow fundians needed to be passed on to Speck and to be honest; I forgot to do that. It's fixed now, and you should get your vouchers soon, but the original mess was my fault and I want to apologize for that.

Frankly, I am one of those guys who tends to learn by asking a lot of dumb questions and finding all the wrong ways to do something before I find the right ones.

I just hope this didn't put any big kinks in anyone's plans.


Beachhead.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 09 March 2015, 18:29:09
No problems Beachhead, thanks for the update. If the problem is sorted then no harm done. We have all made mistakes first day on the job so do not publically flagellate yourself too much over it.

"Success does not consist of never making mistakes but in never making the same one a second time." - George Bernard Shaw
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Saint on 09 March 2015, 20:47:33
No problem here I'll be saving mine for the Rifleman and some other goody. O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 09 March 2015, 21:17:27
A lot of you have been contacting me regarding your vouchers and when you will be getting them.

Well, I always want to be upfront and honest with everything I say and do and with that in mind fellas, I need to admit to you that I dropped the ball on this.

It's been remedied now, but what needed to happen was that the email addresses and amounts for all my fellow fundians needed to be passed on to Speck and to be honest; I forgot to do that. It's fixed now, and you should get your vouchers soon, but the original mess was my fault and I want to apologize for that.

Frankly, I am one of those guys who tends to learn by asking a lot of dumb questions and finding all the wrong ways to do something before I find the right ones.

I just hope this didn't put any big kinks in anyone's plans.


Beachhead.

I will be sending out the credit within the next few days.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 10 March 2015, 00:44:04
Thanks for the update Speck
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Sartris on 10 March 2015, 01:20:29
awesome news
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mdauben on 11 March 2015, 09:26:10
Thanks to both Beachhead and Speck!   ;)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 March 2015, 13:21:30
How does this grab ya? :D

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFLMN-1N.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFLMN-1N.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 12 March 2015, 13:41:43
It does look great! It is a great and awesome job.

 Some nitpicks. I think that the lower legs should be wider. Also, the hip joints should be somewhat wider, too. In the torso, in the panels between the cockpit and the "shoulder", they form an angle in the upper panel that it is more noticeable in the art that in the orto. Finally the back should have something extra, like a small protrusion for extra heat sinks, to link it with other variants. But this is only my opinion and it doesn't stain your awesome work. O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 12 March 2015, 13:56:13
How does this grab ya? :D

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFLMN-1N.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFLMN-1N.jpg.html)

How soon can I get it in my greedy little hands!!!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 12 March 2015, 14:20:49
WANT!  8) Everything I like about the design
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 12 March 2015, 14:30:25
I just noticed that this kind of resembles the MWO Blackjack???
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 March 2015, 14:42:55
How does this grab ya? :D
Good, but please:

- slightly thicker AC boxes
- A little bit of space between the intakes and cockpit.
- the lower legs a bit more beefier.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 March 2015, 14:56:39
Beefier legs.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final.png.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 March 2015, 15:05:02

Hell YES!!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 March 2015, 15:14:44
Wider AC boxes, slightly wider vents.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_1.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_1.png.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 12 March 2015, 15:36:08
 [notworthy] [notworthy] [notworthy] Awesome, it looks beautiful! Great work!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 March 2015, 16:12:20
Wider AC boxes, slightly wider vents.
Nice.

Could we get an enlarged ortho of the Sensor assembly?

Also I am a bit concerned about the rear of the legs, could you please make an ortho of that too?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: worktroll on 12 March 2015, 16:22:27
Please include spare barrels with the mini.

In case, you know, the regular barrels ... umm ... bend during transit and not at all to be mounted underneath the regular barrels in that nice rectangular slot area ...


W.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Bartholomew bartholomew on 12 March 2015, 17:00:06
I actually like this design. However you cockpit looks like it needs just a little more beef.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 March 2015, 17:01:55
I actually like this design. However you cockpit looks like it needs just a little more beef.
You mean like having become slightly wider at the torso?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 12 March 2015, 18:44:17
Thank you everyone for being so understanding.

Thanks also to Speck for bringing this last bit of the paperwork so to speak, to rest.

B-3, you are doing great man.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Bartholomew bartholomew on 12 March 2015, 18:50:17
You mean like having become slightly wider at the torso?
Yep, it looks like a reinforced cockpit in the art, at least to my eyes. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 12 March 2015, 20:12:03
How does this grab ya?
Things look off with the side view of the legs.  1) Too much ankle actuator showing, 2) knee actuator and thigh pushed too far forward, 3) "knee pad" too short--should be taller than knee actuator, 4) inner outer side calf armor polygon sides and angles are out of proportion to the original art (i.e. front side of calf armor appears like it should be parallel to rear upper side--heck it looks like it should be a rectangle with corners bobbed to different depths).

I know they match up with the front ortho view, but in the original art the knees appear slightly bent.   Straightening them would mate the top of the "knee pad" with the bottom of the thick thigh armor instead of leaving a large gap as in the ortho.  I'm not entirely sure how to fix this all and make it match up.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 March 2015, 20:48:25
After this I'm done orthoing.  Sculpting will commence shortly.  Any more changes will be up to thems what has the time to make em.  Barrels will be built into the "arm" so no extra barrels.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/RFL-1N%20FRONT%20FINAL.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/RFL-1N%20FRONT%20FINAL.png.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 13 March 2015, 09:37:49
Great work!  [notworthy] [notworthy]
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 13 March 2015, 10:44:47
It really is beautiful but again something about it is also resembling the MWO Blackjack :(
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Sartris on 13 March 2015, 11:02:34
looks great. can't wait to see it up close.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: manticore72 on 13 March 2015, 18:57:08
and not at all to be mounted underneath the regular barrels in that nice rectangular slot area ...


W.
Right on, WT!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Luriael on 13 March 2015, 19:27:44
After this I'm done orthoing.  Sculpting will commence shortly.  Any more changes will be up to thems what has the time to make em.  Barrels will be built into the "arm" so no extra barrels.



Then we will need to find some extra barrels somewhere...
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 14 March 2015, 10:06:06
I know I said no more Orthoing but I just had to change the legs after reading Cache's post.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_3.png) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N.final_3.png.html)

The QCC has suggested a height of 42mm.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 14 March 2015, 10:52:55

That looks great!

Q: did the original artist supply you with any detailing for the rear side? Or do you have to think of something?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 14 March 2015, 11:00:36
That looks great!

Q: did the original artist supply you with any detailing for the rear side? Or do you have to think of something?

Thanks!

All I get is the original art no other views.  I was going to do something similar to the Reseen Rifleman on the back.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 14 March 2015, 12:41:24
Then we will need to find some extra barrels somewhere...

Somehow I doubt you people that Mod minis will have any problems finding brass rod and plastic tubing.    :D

The rest of us are SOL, However.   :(


I realize where the idea for the Original Rifleman came from, but I'm wondering what the "In Universe" Logic is for switching from the "Side-by-Side" gun configuration of the Primitive to the "Over/Under" Configuration of the "Later" version.   ???  The Jagermech and Marauder are both "Over/Under" after all.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 14 March 2015, 21:22:07
The new legs look great!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 15 March 2015, 04:20:56
Great work B-3, looks great so far O0  Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?

Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels?  >:D

It really is beautiful but again something about it is also resembling the MWO Blackjack :(

TS Hawk - I can see where you are coming from in relation to the arm layout in the front ortho (it is very similar to the look of the MWO Blackjack from head on but if you look at the original art and the side ortho I think we will find that the actual 3D sculpt of the arms will look different to the arms of a MWO Blackjack. Orthos can be a bit deceptive.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 15 March 2015, 06:10:03
Great work B-3, looks great so far O0  Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?

Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels?  >:D
My suggestion is to have the arm or weapon sprue added to the IWM scrap yard. Then people can just order the parts needed for the conversion.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 15 March 2015, 07:54:39
Great work B-3, looks great so far O0  Are you planning with the scupt for the legs to be straight (at attention) or to be slightly bent or running?

Also, to follow on from worktroll's idea, if we ran an additional collection plate around and contributed a few more coins, what is the chance of get an extra set of arms with over and under barrels?  >:D


That is something that would most likely need Mikes approval. Maybe CGL as well since it would deviate from what the art is for that variant. I will ask about it on the QCC thread.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 15 March 2015, 08:13:13
Thanks Speck, but please note the >:D

I am not trying to create trouble or more work for you, Mike or CGL. If TPTB decide that it is "flying too close to the envelope" then I will not rant on this forum or anywhere else. I am very appreciative of everything we have already and the efforts that all TPTB make in keeping BT alive and going.

The fact that I have been accorded the privilege of being a small part of bringing the primitive Rifleman to life in pewter is already a humbling experience for me. Thank you.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 15 March 2015, 19:00:55
So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 16 March 2015, 00:20:42
That is something that would most likely need Mikes approval. Maybe CGL as well since it would deviate from what the art is for that variant. I will ask about it on the QCC thread.

I will be game for it :)



TS Hawk - I can see where you are coming from in relation to the arm layout in the front ortho (it is very similar to the look of the MWO Blackjack from head on but if you look at the original art and the side ortho I think we will find that the actual 3D sculpt of the arms will look different to the arms of a MWO Blackjack. Orthos can be a bit deceptive.

I don't get what Orthos means :(  I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age

So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?

they said soon on the previous page
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 16 March 2015, 00:40:23
I don't get what Orthos means :(  I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age

Apologies, thank you for reminding me that not forum-ite has an engineering/technical background. Ortho = Orthographic Projection which is commonly used in engineering/technical drawing. What many laypeople call "plans". Wikipedia explains it better than I can (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiview_orthographic_projection)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 16 March 2015, 15:58:36
So, should we expect an email with the voucher info?

It's on my to do list for tomorrow night. I had a convention and then computer issues. So spent weekend catching up on other items that I need to get done.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 16 March 2015, 16:00:23
I will be game for it :)

I don't get what Orthos means :(  I just don't want to have IWM and MWO having any sort of issues over this to be perfectly clear and I know I am a lot more paranoid in my old age

they said soon on the previous page

It's basically a guide to help with the sculpting process.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 16 March 2015, 16:24:53
An ortho has a similar function as blueprint if you will.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 16 March 2015, 18:06:20
As mech42ace said when I say "plans" in English I mean "blueprints" in American. I really should have checked my Lonely Planet USA Phasebook before I posted. :-[

Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: worktroll on 16 March 2015, 18:07:33
Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.

W  ;)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 16 March 2015, 18:12:05
As mech42ace said when I say "plans" in English I mean "blueprints" in American. I really should have checked my Lonely Planet USA Phasebook before I posted. :-[
Sorry about that feenix, I meant no insult when I posted. 
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Bartholomew bartholomew on 16 March 2015, 18:24:08
Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.

W  ;)
Hey! just cause bad english isn't your native tongue!  ;D

Anyways, Can't wait to see how this ends up anyways. Good luck B-3.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 16 March 2015, 18:30:00
No problems mate, no insult/offence taken O0

Much appreciate the assist in getting my "American" right. I still remember the time when I was at the Boeing staff cafeteria many years ago and the lady serving me had a good giggle because I asked if I could have my lunch order as "takeaway" instead of "takeout".

Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.

W  ;)

"English spoken, American mis-understood"  ^-^
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Jal Phoenix on 16 March 2015, 18:33:23
Remember though, it's the Queen's English, not the President's English. We are right, those benighted uppity colonials are wrong.

W  ;)

Because the space on the back of your car so totally resembles something you wear on your foot, instead of a box with a lid that you store things in, am I right?   ;D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: worktroll on 16 March 2015, 18:37:32
You'd think that Australia, who as we all know is completely populated by convicts*, would need phones in their lockups, and would use the phrase "cell phone". But no, these survivors in Ghu's own destructive testing area walk around talking, and call those cunning slices of silicon, plastic & status "mobile phones".

And don't start me on American toilet bowls ...
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 16 March 2015, 19:25:20
You'd think that Australia, who as we all know is completely populated by convicts*

Inconceivable!  :D

At least can we pronounce "alu-min-ium" properly. Shameless attempt to tie this back into the topic - I might have to buy an extra set of primitive rifleman arms, get some aluminium or brass rod/tubing to add an over-under AC barrels to the arms plus use a hobby knife and files to kitbash a primitive rifleman that can be reconfigured as required.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 March 2015, 20:18:06
Aluminum :D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Jal Phoenix on 16 March 2015, 23:53:26
Aluminum :D

Correct!  Note that we don't need to insert extra letters into words that don't require them.  I'm looking at you, "armour"!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Sharpnel on 17 March 2015, 01:35:50
and we can get our 'e' and 'r' in the right order 'theater' as opposed to 'theatre' or 'center' instead of 'centre'
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 17 March 2015, 05:32:57
All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them  ^-^

Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 17 March 2015, 06:32:13
All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them  ^-^
Lol, well played. :)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Sharpnel on 17 March 2015, 11:09:45
All examples of how you guys take perfectly good words and ruin them  ^-^
or how we avoid getting our words confused with French ones
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 18 March 2015, 21:02:56
Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 18 March 2015, 21:44:33
Cheers and many thanks Speck. I dusted mine off after retrieving it from the Junk folder. Perfect timing for my next order with Melissa.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 19 March 2015, 00:35:10
Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.
Thank you!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 19 March 2015, 09:08:38
Cheers and many thanks Speck. I dusted mine off after retrieving it from the Junk folder. Perfect timing for my next order with Melissa.

The voucher would need to be used through the online store since that is how it is managed and kept track of when used.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mdauben on 19 March 2015, 09:13:28
Got mine last night.  Thanks, Speck!   O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 19 March 2015, 15:30:17
Thank you!!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 19 March 2015, 16:34:00
Just sent Credit Vouchers out to all of the backers. If you do not see a email, check your spam folder.

Received, thanks!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 19 March 2015, 16:56:22
Thanks, mine is also in!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 19 March 2015, 23:14:54
Thanks Speck!   O0  Now I just have to wait until the newest round of OE minis get released before I can spend my Credit!   ;D  I double-checked the Guidelines and read this:

Quote
Step 4: Once Behrle has been paid, then we will create the thread on our QCC forum and sculpting will begin. When sculpting has been complete and approved by QCC it will be turned into IWM, then we will open up other Funding thread until all six of the poll winners have been sculpted. Once all six winners have been funded and sculpted, another suggestion thread will not be opened until the next quarter. The completed sculpted items will be worked onto the web only release schedule.

What are the chances we'll see the Primitive Rifleman available for sale this year?   ???  I'm guessing 4th Quarter at the Soonest, if we're Lucky?   :-\
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 19 March 2015, 23:21:45
I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them. 
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 20 March 2015, 05:52:34
I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them.
Nice! Bravo, Sir, bravo!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mdauben on 20 March 2015, 09:06:54
I should have the PR sculpted and masters to IWM in two weeks max. What they do after that is on them.
Woohoo!  You're a machine, B-3!   O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 23 March 2015, 14:44:39
I am not sure if I can wait for the mechs and vees with that great deal they are having on buildings
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: jbressel on 25 March 2015, 19:47:54
Has everyone who funded gotten their store credit voucher?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 26 March 2015, 12:51:18
I have. Just haven't activated it yet.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 26 March 2015, 13:08:51
I sent them all out to the provided email address. If you do not see it in your inbox then check your spam folder.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 26 March 2015, 14:50:48
I have mine...haven't activated it yet but really not sure if I should wait to use it when the Prim and the Vees are released or get that sweet deal on the buildings ?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 26 March 2015, 15:10:59
Mine will go towards the 1st Quarter OE minis, but I'm going to wait until I pitch in on the Primitive Griffin before I buy anything.  Might as well make one order instead of two, right?   O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 26 March 2015, 18:15:00
Mine will go towards the 1st Quarter OE minis, but I'm going to wait until I pitch in on the Primitive Griffin before I buy anything.  Might as well make one order instead of two, right?   O0

My sentiments exactly!
I have plans for the Griffin... Multiple. Copies. Of. ::cough::
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 02 April 2015, 10:55:57
I got mine. Anyone else still stray on vouchers for this?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 12:35:49
Wadayathink?

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20F%201.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20F%201.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20B1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20B1.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20L.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 16 April 2015, 12:54:33
Will the medium lasers be visible on the final metal mini?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 13:09:38
They're visible on the master, you just hafta look closely. ;)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 16 April 2015, 13:36:35

Good that I have a drill bit then.  ;) /jk

Another thing, comparing the master (see attachment) with the TRO picture, these seem to stick out way too far.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 13:58:15
Hmmm yes you're right about the hip pieces sticking out too far. Fixing that.  You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface? 
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: cavingjan on 16 April 2015, 14:30:13
What is the silver thing? (Besides a radar dish.) What was it in its previous incarnation?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 14:33:40
It was a radar dish on one of my ship designs.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 16 April 2015, 14:40:44
You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface?
Why not small hemispheres that are recessed?  8)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 14:45:18
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20hip%20redo.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20RFL-1N%20Master%20hip%20redo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: jbressel on 16 April 2015, 14:52:07
With the dish shifted to one side, it would inhibit the pilot from flipping the weapons over to fire backwards
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 15:07:59
The one I used is only 3mm larger in diameter (1.5mm on each side) than what the design called for.  The one in the design would interfere as well though not as much.  If this was a real machine the gun would automatically deviate to avoid the radome as it traversed to the rear.

I think too much. :D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 16 April 2015, 17:18:56
If this was a real machine the gun would automatically deviate to avoid the radome as it traversed to the rear.
Or the arms would flip down and under rather than up and over.  ;)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 17:46:01
Or the arms would flip down and under rather than up and over.  ;)

Yeah that! O0
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 16 April 2015, 17:57:30
I think those hip bits should be flipped upside down and be flush with the front of the pelvis.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 16 April 2015, 18:14:19
Looking good so far!
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 16 April 2015, 18:45:26
Looking good Behrle  O0

Did you machine the brass rod for the arm-mounted ACs yourself? Or are they a standard brass piece that would-be kitbashers may be able to procure  ^-^
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 16 April 2015, 22:25:04
Looking good Behrle  O0

Did you machine the brass rod for the arm-mounted ACs yourself? Or are they a standard brass piece that would-be kitbashers may be able to procure  ^-^

Thats a one off turning I did for this piece. I will probably mold it seperately and cast it in pewter for future projects.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 17 April 2015, 02:19:23
As an engineer, I think your plan to mold the AC barrels separately for the primitive Rifleman casting is probably the best engineering solution to the vexing issue of how owners of the pewter minis can replace AC barrels that may get damaged in-transit when they are moving minis from game to game.

This would mean that IWM would have to make AC barrels available through the IWM webstore scrapyard, so that owners of the primitive Rifleman minis can pre-purchase additional barrels as attrition spares in case the barrels get damaged in-transit. In fact, I will probably just have to buy a couple of attrition spares as part of my primitive Rifleman purchase  ^-^
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 17 April 2015, 04:20:31
You think the medium lasers should be recessed instead of small hemispheres on the surface?

MY impression from the XTRO art is that the medium lasers stick up a little bit in their recessed boxes. WHY have them in a recessed housing, then stick out, I've NO idea.   :D  That's just how they look TO ME.

Since I'm NO artist, the best I can think of for a visual is: An empty 2Lb box of velveeta cheese (representing the "Housing"), with a jar of Kraft Pimento Spread standing up in it (representing the medium laser), but NOT sticking up above the sides of the box.  Does that make any sense?   ???  To ME, they seem to project out from their BASE, but NOT outside of their housing.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Saint on 17 April 2015, 06:40:42
 [drool] Want now  [drool] WANT NOW 

I think she looks great, I do agree that the radar may need to be shifted.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 17 April 2015, 09:49:38
I think those hip bits should be flipped upside down and be flush with the front of the pelvis.

Done!

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Rifleman%20revised%20hip1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Rifleman%20revised%20hip1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 17 April 2015, 15:12:07
B-3,

First let me say, I wish I had half your talent.  Having said that, please review the attached amended ortho which depicts what I think is a more accurate interpretation of those hip doohickeys.

I think they are shielding for the hip servos and hydraulics.

I think you nailed it on your front ortho, but on the side view somehow they got skewed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/dickjensen/Primitive%20Rifleman%20Ortho_zpsbewhouod.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dickjensen/media/Primitive%20Rifleman%20Ortho_zpsbewhouod.jpg.html)

I hope that helps.

-DJ
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 17 April 2015, 16:04:23
Thanks DJ! :D
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Spenetrator on 19 April 2015, 04:08:08
When does the suggestion Thread for the 2nd quarter open?
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 19 April 2015, 04:25:39
Thanks DJ! :D
My pleasure.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Maingunnery on 19 April 2015, 04:28:01
When does the suggestion Thread for the 2nd quarter open?
Considering that we are about half-way..... it would likely be in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: 1st Quarter 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 19 April 2015, 15:11:46
Great work! It is an awesome sculpt. O0 O0
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 20 April 2015, 13:14:50
Thanks everyone!  This one is approved and delivered to IWM as of 11:00 this morning!   O0  Let the Highlander fundication begin!  :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 20 April 2015, 14:51:24
Fast turnaround time B-3! It impresses me how fast you can churn a prototype out at such high quality!  Keep it up!  O0
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 20 April 2015, 14:56:29
That's the plan, as long as my eyesight and sanity hold out. Well, eyesight at least the other is a lost cause... :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 20 April 2015, 17:00:38
Thanks everyone!  This one is approved and delivered to IWM as of 11:00 this morning!   O0  Let the Highlander fundication begin!  :D

What? No final picture of the master for us to drool over?  >:D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 21 April 2015, 10:39:47
Here you go!

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20B.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20B.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20S.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20S.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/RFL-1N%20Scale_1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/RFL-1N%20Scale_1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Atlas3060 on 21 April 2015, 10:50:36
By the Dice Gods it is so adorable.
Yeah I'm buying some when I get the chance.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: D.Jensen on 21 April 2015, 11:31:46
Definitely grabbing a couple when it comes out. Nice work!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 21 April 2015, 14:07:21
Welp.
Weeelp.
Welp.
I was slating my plate for one of these.
I think I might have to try to swing another one or two.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: ijewett on 21 April 2015, 14:40:14
That Sir is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mdauben on 21 April 2015, 15:02:37
Love it!   O0
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 21 April 2015, 21:06:16
I Love it, but I can already hear the whining now.   ::)


"But it's only 50 tons and it's as big as an Assault 'Mech!"  :P
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: JPArbiter on 21 April 2015, 23:26:25
I Love it, but I can already hear the whining now.   ::)


"But it's only 50 tons and it's as big as an Assault 'Mech!"  :P

It is primitive and thus bulky!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 22 April 2015, 06:25:53
Woah! That went fast!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 22 April 2015, 06:51:43
Looks great  O0

B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 22 April 2015, 07:37:32
It is primitive and thus bulky!

I don't have any problems with it, I'm just saying how some people are about petty, inconsequential things like that.   :D


I'm looking forward to buying a Lance of these!   :Jumpy:  EXCELLENT work B-3!   O0   [applause]   [applause]
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 22 April 2015, 09:03:41
I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 22 April 2015, 09:04:31
Looks great  O0

B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?

Typically, the company will make a mold from the original sculpt, and use that top cast a more durable set of masters in pewter. Those masters are then used to make the production molds. (Which typically make more than one model per spin.)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: God and Davion on 22 April 2015, 13:25:49
I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.

Awesome, you won the internet with that pic!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 22 April 2015, 15:59:53
I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM.  I won the Internet?!  :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 22 April 2015, 17:31:17
I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM.  I won the Internet?!  :D

Yes, you did. Now back to the workbench with you!  >:D

Please and thank you.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 22 April 2015, 20:56:44
Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes  O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.

It has been an honour and a priviledge to be able to be involved in the fundication for this. My thanks go to speck, B-3, Beachhead and my fellow fundicators for this opportunity.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GunjiNoKanrei on 23 April 2015, 03:18:37
I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.
That's how it is usually done. Behrle is the exception to the rule ;)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: abou on 23 April 2015, 07:13:07
Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 23 April 2015, 10:37:15
Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.

What!?! Only one?


[JediMindTrick]You will buy TWO![/JediMindTrick]

abou: "You know, it looks so good, I should buy at least 2 of them!"


Good decision!   O0


 :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 23 April 2015, 12:56:43
I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM.  I won the Internet?!  :D

Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor!  [cheers]

The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 23 April 2015, 13:21:17
Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor!  [cheers]

The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!

Well thanks!  I am also a goldsmith and jeweler and do lots of custom jewelry design.  I can cast gold, silver and bronze so pewter is pretty easy.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Cache on 23 April 2015, 17:07:41
Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes  O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.
B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene.  The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 24 April 2015, 07:30:03
B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene.  The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.

I had actually been wondering about that. The APC masters looked like they had styrene parts, but I didn't think that was possible, based on conversations with fantasy sculptors. I have seen how a green can be mangled during the high-pressure step of vulcanization.

This explains it!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: malk2651 on 29 May 2015, 12:23:45
Question for anyone with half an educated guess,  is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works.  Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 01 June 2015, 08:18:40
Question for anyone with half an educated guess,  is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works.  Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.

Once B-3 sends his own masters to IWM, it's just a question of when they have an open slot in the mold-making queue. It seems to take at least 3 months, and sometimes 6 or more, but I don't think there is a strict rule for it.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 04 June 2015, 21:49:42
So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 04 June 2015, 22:05:18
That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 04 June 2015, 22:46:42
Sweet! O0
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: GRUD on 04 June 2015, 22:56:39
That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0

I Second that!  Please pass along My Thanks as Well!   O0  It looks like I'll be using some of my "Primitive Rifleman Pledge Funds" to actually buy some of them!

And of course by "Some" I mean a Lance of them.   8)

Thanks Especially to B-3/Mr. Hubbuch, of course!  MORE Amazing work!    [cheers]  [applause]  [applause]
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 05 June 2015, 01:12:48
oh great news that means then once they go up I can spend some of my vouchers :)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 05 June 2015, 01:53:23
Speck - could I ask a massive favour?

As one of the proud fundicators of this miniature, could you please provide us with some feedback on how well this miniature sells at Origins?

Does not need to be exact number (although that would be nice  ;) ) but even if it is just a "It is a dog with fleas and nobody wanted to touch it" or "It sold ok" or "We sold most of them" or "We sold most of them on the first day and we had to get the team back at the factory to produce another batch and Fedex it in for us" or "Watch the Columbus news to see the block riots it caused"
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 05 June 2015, 08:51:57
So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.

Like I said, no strict rule for it.  :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: malk2651 on 06 June 2015, 21:39:53
Just opened the one I bought this morning.  It took me a good 2 minutes to realize I was not in fact missing the legs, but that each leg came in 3 different parts.  Oh boy am I going to have fun posing this guy.   :D

Excellent mini.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 07 June 2015, 00:02:54
Ok, so we have made at least one sale  :)

Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Mech42ace on 07 June 2015, 00:09:39
Ok, so we have made at least one sale  :)

Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.
I'd love to see some pics, as I plan to pick one or two up as soon as they go up on the site. :)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 07 June 2015, 00:19:29
My next order will include one for myself as well as stock for my online store and hopefully at least one of my regular customers.

I would offer to hook you up with one but unfortunately, unless you are here downunder, the freight cost from Ohio to Australia then back to where you are in the States means it is probably more cost effective for you to buy local (I can recommend Aries Games and Miniatures run by Dragon41673 from this forum) or direct from the IWM webstore.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 07 June 2015, 06:48:54
Another question, how much is the Primative Rifleman retailing for?
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: malk2651 on 07 June 2015, 10:46:09
Bought it at Origins for $12.50 US Dollars
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: wolfspider on 07 June 2015, 13:57:12
Can you use the Rifleman 6X arms on it?
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Feenix74 on 07 June 2015, 20:17:12
Cheers and many thanks Malk!  O0

If US$12.50 is the IWM RRP then I think they should sell pretty well.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Scotty on 07 June 2015, 20:18:39
Just got back from Origins.  I can confirm that this mini is, in fact, dead sexy.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Azakael on 08 June 2015, 18:05:12
Need an assembled, next to an Unseen and Reseen RFL, picture please. Thank you. :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 09 June 2015, 08:21:02
Just got back from Origins.  I can confirm that this mini is, in fact, dead sexy.

Really, the biggest problem with this mini is that I don't have one.  ;)
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 09 June 2015, 08:24:53
Really, the biggest problem with this mini is that I don't have one.  ;)

Hoping by the weekend it will be up on the website. Have some assembly to do on a bunch of new stuff that came out at origins for images for webstore.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Dragon41673 on 09 June 2015, 18:22:47
Speck...do you have a part number on this guy? I've got an order sitting at IWM right now & I'd love to include some.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 09 June 2015, 21:31:07
Hoping by the weekend it will be up on the website. Have some assembly to do on a bunch of new stuff that came out at origins for images for webstore.

Waiting on this and the APC's to use some of my voucher credit.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 June 2015, 11:08:19
OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done.  I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it.  We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going!  :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Baron RedSkull on 12 June 2015, 16:33:31
OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done.  I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it.  We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going!  :D

Did you mean to put this in the Highlander thread? Either way, I'm excite to help fund the next 2 sculpts.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 June 2015, 16:52:09
It seemed the most logical place to put it.   :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: JPArbiter on 12 June 2015, 18:40:33
OK, the 732 Master Pattern is at IWM and the 734 and 738 bits are almost done.  I have beautiful, QCC approved Orthos for the Griffin from IAMCLANWOLF and have started sculpting it.  We can get the Flashman Fundication Thread going!  :D

we never even saw the griffin Orthos!
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: TS_Hawk on 12 June 2015, 19:58:19
So any pics of the finished Rifleman?
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: B-3 on 12 June 2015, 22:40:22
Got a little ahead of myself, sorry.  I'll post the Griffin orthos and Highlander photos tomorrow including 734 and 738 bits.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: malk2651 on 13 June 2015, 15:20:52
Posted pics of mine I put together. Not the greatest paint job ever but it gets the job done.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/miniatures/got-my-rifleman-1-n-done/
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Saint on 20 July 2015, 12:41:01
Any update on when it will be up on the site? It's killing me to wait. [drool]
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 20 July 2015, 13:23:48
Any update on when it will be up on the site? It's killing me to wait. [drool]

this will be up after gencon. Busy getting ready for show this week and just got back from Historicon.
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: Saint on 20 July 2015, 16:47:16
Thanks for the update O0

I just cant wait to pick one up.  ;D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: jbressel on 20 July 2015, 17:11:12
I'm getting mine at Gen Con
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: klarg1 on 20 July 2015, 18:29:07
I'm getting mine at Gen Con

I'd like to, but I have so much fan financing credit tied up, that I kind of have to wait until it hits the online store.  :-\
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: mdauben on 21 July 2015, 09:22:03
I'd like to, but I have so much fan financing credit tied up, that I kind of have to wait until it hits the online store.  :-\
Unless I start fundicating new sculpts at a 100% level, my shopping list will always exceed any credits I build up through fan financing.   :D
Title: Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED!
Post by: speck on 30 November 2015, 20:48:41
Locking thread since the Rifleman has been released.