Author Topic: Aviation Pictures Part Trois (Read 194784 times)

Sharpnel · « **Reply #480 on:** 28 December 2017, 07:47:29 »

Quote from: PsihoKekec on 28 December 2017, 03:29:16

Going low in Straya

I can see it now as the young pilot has his wings pulled off his uni by his Wing Commander for reckless flying and violation of standing orders regarding flight operations in urban areas during peacetime. Nice video, but likely a career ender

Feenix74 · « **Reply #481 on:** 28 December 2017, 08:23:10 »

Unlikely to be a CLM.

It appears to be an acrobatic display for the Gold Coast 600 Supercars race (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Coast_600)

Which means that it is fully planned and authorised "mission" with the blessing of the boss and civilian authorities.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #482 on:** 28 December 2017, 10:04:38 »

Yup, they'll put on shows like that from time to time. So does the US, for Fleet Week in San Francisco, you get neat things like this:

Feenix74 · « **Reply #483 on:** 01 January 2018, 23:07:34 »

See you can have fun with flight safety (and you do not even have to be a German Leopard tank crew member):

https://youtu.be/sPfya60FYo4

PsihoKekec · « **Reply #484 on:** 26 January 2018, 02:58:43 »

From the unveiling of the first upgraded Tu-160

I am Belch II · « **Reply #485 on:** 26 January 2018, 13:52:20 »

That Tu-160 is a weird looking aircraft.

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #486 on:** 26 January 2018, 15:50:13 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 26 January 2018, 13:52:20

That Tu-160 is a weird looking aircraft.

no weirder than the b-1

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #487 on:** 26 January 2018, 16:39:08 »

It reminds me of a Concorde.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #488 on:** 26 January 2018, 17:35:42 »

Face it, we know it's going to happen.

A friend of mine saw this and pointed out the Tu-95 would still be using props loud enough to be heard in outer space.

"In space no one can hear you scream...because of that damn bomber!"

Cannonshop · « **Reply #489 on:** 26 January 2018, 19:14:16 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 26 January 2018, 13:52:20

That Tu-160 is a weird looking aircraft.

it's not weird, it's beautiful...like a B-1's older, sexier sister.

Weirdo · « **Reply #490 on:** 26 January 2018, 19:42:52 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 January 2018, 17:35:42

Face it, we know it's going to happen.

A friend of mine saw this and pointed out the Tu-95 would still be using props loud enough to be heard in outer space.

"In space no one can hear you scream...because of that damn bomber!"

I kinda really want to kitbash that...

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #491 on:** 26 January 2018, 19:58:13 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 January 2018, 17:35:42

Face it, we know it's going to happen.

A friend of mine saw this and pointed out the Tu-95 would still be using props loud enough to be heard in outer space.

"In space no one can hear you scream...because of that damn bomber!"

wrong type of nacelles though..

worktroll · « **Reply #492 on:** 28 January 2018, 04:54:13 »

On a sad note, an RAAF EA-18 Growler just crashed in Las Vegas, while taking part in Red Flag exercises. Thoughts & prayers with the aviators, their families, and loved ones.

O Spirit, whom the Father sent
To spread abroad the firmament;
O Wind of heaven, by thy might
Save all who dare the eagle's flight,
And keep them by thy watchful care
From every peril in the air.

Here's one in happier times, from context in Nevada:

Australia took delivery of 12 Growlers in only July last year. The Growler is 90% compatible with the two-seater FA-18F, I'm told, with additional electronics and some aerodynamic tweaks.

Kidd · « **Reply #493 on:** 28 January 2018, 05:04:55 »

Pilot and wizzo got out safely.

worktroll · « **Reply #494 on:** 28 January 2018, 05:11:03 »

I'm delighted to hear that! Looks like they tried an approach, but punched out in time. That's a fairly shallow impact.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #495 on:** 28 January 2018, 06:10:51 »

From publicly available sources, Growler was on take-off, had an engine problem, aborted take-off, overshot end of runway, crew was able to stop aircraft, exit aircraft before it caught fire.

Does not seem like it is going be to fixable . . .

Yes the EA-18F is just a F/A-18F with extra bits on it. In fact the 12 F/A-18Fs that we also purchased before the 12 EA-18Fs have been wired with the cabling so that they can be converted to Growlers when the F-35As are commissioned into service.

Daryk · « **Reply #496 on:** 28 January 2018, 06:21:42 »

Now THAT's thinking ahead... I wish my government would do more of that.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #497 on:** 28 January 2018, 06:28:18 »

For once the bean-counters and political advisors actually listened to the guys in uniform.

Now if only the guys in uniform with wings on chests listened to the guys in uniforms with pocket protectors and scientific calculators, we would have also bought two squadrons of F/A-18Es after committing to buying one squadron of early build F-35As that would have given us options to negotiate the price down by not having to buy early build F-35As . . .

Bedwyr · « **Reply #498 on:** 28 January 2018, 12:31:47 »

Quote from: worktroll on 28 January 2018, 05:11:03

I'm delighted to hear that! Looks like they tried an approach, but punched out in time. That's a fairly shallow impact.

Makes me think of investigation methods I learned in human factors coursework.

- If you can maintain longitudinal integrity of the airplane, you’re more likely to make it.
- This does not apply to stall spin accidents.
- In fact that’s a telling indicator: no approach scarring at the crash site. Good sign of a spin with little forward movement.
- Dramatic examples show pictures of a perfectly normal looking airplane from above. Just a whole lot flatter from the side.
- GA seats have 11G crumple structures. It still won’t dissipate all that vertical energy.
- Spinal compression sucks
- Learn to manage lift properly at low altitude and don’t cross your controls.

ColBosch · « **Reply #499 on:** 28 January 2018, 12:58:22 »

I am reminded of the fatal crash a couple years ago at Houston Hobby, when a pilot deployed her flaps at too low an airspeed and went into a spin. The impact area was literally limited to a single car in a parking lot.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #500 on:** 29 January 2018, 15:07:36 »

Here's what's left of that RAAF Growler at Nellis:

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #501 on:** 29 January 2018, 15:20:23 »

It looks surprisingly intact.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #502 on:** 29 January 2018, 17:39:53 »

I assume it is an engine fire. The location of the engine would see a lot of damage to the airframe, both in the centre barrel and the wing root. I would be seriously concerned that the structural integrity has been compromised by the heat. It would probably be repairable but it would involve stripping the airframe down to components, then doing non-destructive testing and replacing any failed structural sections. As the Growler is still in production, it is probably more economical to purchase a new airframe, "christmas tree" this electronic components for spares and the airframe can be used for maintenance/battle damage repair training.

mdauben · « **Reply #503 on:** 30 January 2018, 12:37:08 »

Quote from: beachhead1985 on 26 January 2018, 15:50:13

no weirder than the b-1

I always thought this was an odd plane, the B-36 Peacemaker. Six turbo-prop engines and four jet engines.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #504 on:** 30 January 2018, 12:57:50 »

Six turning, four burning. ;)

DoctorMonkey · « **Reply #505 on:** 30 January 2018, 13:05:26 »

Quote from: Fat Guy on 30 January 2018, 12:57:50

Six turning, four burning. ;)

"two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking, and two more unaccounted for."

I am Belch II · « **Reply #506 on:** 30 January 2018, 16:14:32 »

Quote from: DoctorMonkey on 30 January 2018, 13:05:26

"two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking, and two more unaccounted for."

its a neat looking plane cause of the Pusher props.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #507 on:** 30 January 2018, 16:16:59 »

Five bucks says that Growler driver gets a new callsign. Torch, Blaze, any other likely ones?

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #508 on:** 30 January 2018, 16:32:06 »

Smokey? Poptart?

Feenix74 · « **Reply #509 on:** 30 January 2018, 18:05:50 »

Yes, he/she will probably "cop a bit of stick" from the rest of the aircrew (my guess on new callsign being "Norman" or "Lauda") but that will be because they are jealous that he/she will now be in the running to be a future CAF (Chief of Air Force).

With the history that the RAAF had with operating the Mirage, at one stage the running in-house joke was that it was a prerequisite for one-star promotion that you must have ejected from an aircraft. When I was serving at Headquarters Air Command as a wet behind the ears junior staff officer, my one-star ("Poodle") and the other one-star ("Shep") celebrated their 20th anniversary of having ejected out of a Mirage together (Poodle was the instructor with Shep as his student pilot at the time). Shep later went on to become Chief of Air Force.