Author Topic: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur  (Read 174660 times)

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1470 on: 29 August 2011, 17:55:53 »
Speer: Mein Fuhrer, this is just balls, respectfully. We have, like, three different main battle tanks right now, and WHO KNOWS how many subvariants. And we're still producing the Pazer II? Why? Why?

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1471 on: 29 August 2011, 17:59:13 »
Fourteen different versions of the same plane.  Hmm and people complain of to many mech variants and new units in Battletech. ::)
Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany.  More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1472 on: 29 August 2011, 18:00:33 »
Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany.  More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.

So, more advanced than [insert place you dislike (eg Yorskhire) here]
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1473 on: 29 August 2011, 18:08:18 »
If we're all up for a game later, I'll play.

Speaking of Variants, I'm up to 13 different Shermans and I still dont have em all!  #P
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1474 on: 29 August 2011, 18:10:17 »
Sure, but BattleTech nations are moribund basket-cases compared to wartime Britain or Germany.  More akin those African nations where the steam engines are long gone and now folks get around on human or ox-powered rail cars.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is.  While individual worlds did get hit in the Succession Wars and some of them were basically shattered at different points, a lot of worlds were never really affected (Numenor in the Federated Suns, for instance), many were only hit lightly, and the ones that survived had generally begun to recover.  What happened to cause most of the decline was infrastructure decay and collapse but even then it seems like the situation had begun to reverse itself.  The regrowth in the wake of the Helm Core seems to me to be a lot like the way Europe was pulling itself back to its feet for the recovery of knowledge and growth of trade in the Crusades to lead into the Renaissance.

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1475 on: 29 August 2011, 18:19:56 »
I think the best reason behind lostech was the massive loss of transport. I can easily see many colonies and primary world's infrastructure and economy being governed by interstellar trade, only for it to dry up when there's no longer any way to get the goods from the factory to the market.

I can see companies like GM and Ford building luxury sports cars in massive outback factory complexes (were the labour is cheapest and the planetary government offer the best incentives) only to end up storing them by the thousand out in some desert mothball site, waiting for enough jumpships to finally move some and laying off workers in the meantime.

It's only a short push into an economic spiral, with simply not enough Military Industrial work to keep every world afloat and the few worlds still prospering end up propping up the economies of the others.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1476 on: 29 August 2011, 18:28:35 »
Here's something I've wondered: where would modern-day Earth fit on the Inner Sphere's alphabetical development table?  I'm guessing it would be pretty high up, since the state of Florida appears to have more colleges and universities than the whole of the Federated Suns.  And yet the typical modern man is a peasant farmer or an urban slum-dweller.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1477 on: 29 August 2011, 18:36:16 »
I think you'd have to break it up into continents at least.

That said, I can see many core worlds having a single central hub of Haves and a sprawl of either rural or urban Have-nots. I don't think the innersphere has much in the way of a suburban middle class.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1478 on: 29 August 2011, 18:51:59 »
A thing to remember about those many Spitfires is how long did they serve?  BT has mechs that are hundreds of years old.  Best case would probably be something like the B52 or the Israelis continuously upgrading things like Shermans and Centurions long after their build dates, or small nations still upgrading M24 or M41 tanks in the 1990s.  Fifty to sixty years is a fantastic service life already, to say nothing of the centuries expected out of BattleMechs, which never went out of production, which was continually upgraded with every new bell and whistle... 

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1479 on: 29 August 2011, 18:53:44 »
Well done Edward!
 I would watch if y'all (that sounds creepy) play, but probably not play. I hate leaving a game early.
Me thinks we need a title for the next AFFS incarnation?
Perhaps something with "Wight" in it. The "Wight" stuff perhaps? Perhaps that's the Stockholm Syndrome talking...
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1480 on: 29 August 2011, 18:55:11 »
How about AFFS High Command:  The Fox is always Wight
From a 'Mech grave he rose, snarling
Ready to do battle for his vanquished Clan
Stalking the Falcon Khans, who would remake us
His actions, the Wolf incarnate
  -The Remembrance(Clan Wolf), Passage 412, Verse 10, Lines 9-12

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1481 on: 29 August 2011, 18:56:10 »
Perhaps something with "Wight" in it. The "Wight" stuff perhaps? Perhaps that's the Stockholm Syndrome talking...

I dunno, none of the rest of us bet our reputations on the Wight---or in your case, wrong---fight.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1482 on: 29 August 2011, 18:58:31 »
Here's something I've wondered: where would modern-day Earth fit on the Inner Sphere's alphabetical development table?  I'm guessing it would be pretty high up, since the state of Florida appears to have more colleges and universities than the whole of the Federated Suns.

Technological Sophistication: C or D.  Medical is D, microelectronics are C to D, and education leans toward B but doesn't overcome the primitive technologies.  The literacy rate is probably better, though.
Industrial Sophistication: An unambiguous C, sliding toward the low end of that scale.
Raw Material Dependence: A with no exports for obvious reasons.
Industrial Output: A or B; my money's on A but again, no exports.
Agricultural Dependence: A or B, leaning toward B but it's difficult to judge since the criteria is exportable surplus.

A thing to remember about those many Spitfires is how long did they serve?  BT has mechs that are hundreds of years old.  Best case would probably be something like the B52 or the Israelis continuously upgrading things like Shermans and Centurions long after their build dates, or small nations still upgrading M24 or M41 tanks in the 1990s.  Fifty to sixty years is a fantastic service life already, to say nothing of the centuries expected out of BattleMechs, which never went out of production, which was continually upgraded with every new bell and whistle... 

A detailed treatment of the various Archer variants (probably at the level you'd see in Jane's, not a TRO) is said in TRO3025 to take up a book on its own.  That's before most of the variants we know about, too.  The Fan Article actually bounced off the character limit.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1483 on: 29 August 2011, 19:00:24 »
How about AFFS High Command:  The Fox is always Wight

Blasphemy! Unless you're in the Outback, then merely a forgivable typo.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1484 on: 29 August 2011, 19:01:57 »
I dunno, none of the rest of us bet our reputations on the Wight---or in your case, wrong---fight.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1485 on: 29 August 2011, 19:02:33 »
Did anybody talk about the Capellan version?  We all know that two Wongs can't make a Wight.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1486 on: 29 August 2011, 19:02:44 »
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1487 on: 29 August 2011, 19:02:50 »
The Fox is never Panther?

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1488 on: 29 August 2011, 19:03:04 »
Ha!  At long last!  The honor is mine.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1489 on: 29 August 2011, 19:03:39 »
Annnd Neko with the NPA gets to name the new thread.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1490 on: 29 August 2011, 19:05:57 »
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1491 on: 29 August 2011, 19:07:08 »
I was hoping for something with bacon.  Or Arby's.

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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1492 on: 29 August 2011, 19:07:45 »
Quod scripsi scripsi my good man.
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Re: AFFS High Command: Eternal Grandeur
« Reply #1493 on: 29 August 2011, 19:14:51 »
Blasphemy! Unless you're in the Outback, then merely a forgivable typo.

I was making a play on the whole "Wight" thing.  :P


From a 'Mech grave he rose, snarling
Ready to do battle for his vanquished Clan
Stalking the Falcon Khans, who would remake us
His actions, the Wolf incarnate
  -The Remembrance(Clan Wolf), Passage 412, Verse 10, Lines 9-12