Author Topic: Unified Doctor Who thread (Read 147507 times)

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #990 on:** 29 December 2014, 15:21:56 »

Yeah, at this point only Mark Heap and Julia Deakin are left from the main cast of Spaced.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #991 on:** 29 December 2014, 18:35:33 »

Im glad that Jenna Coleman is back for another season...I just hope the story and writing of show gets better.

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #992 on:** 02 January 2015, 21:23:03 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 29 December 2014, 18:35:33

Im glad that Jenna Coleman is back for another season...I just hope the story and writing of show gets better.

With Moffat still in charge, that's not going to happen.

mdauben · « **Reply #993 on:** 05 January 2015, 11:06:12 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 29 December 2014, 18:35:33

Im glad that Jenna Coleman is back for another season...I just hope the story and writing of show gets better.

I, on the other hand, was quite disppointed to see she's returning next season. I thought after the end of Death in Heaven we were done with her. :(

I actually would have been happy if they had just stopped at 80 year old Clara. I thought that would have made a nice farewell to her character.

gyedid · « **Reply #994 on:** 05 January 2015, 22:47:26 »

Quote from: mdauben on 05 January 2015, 11:06:12

I, on the other hand, was quite disppointed to see she's returning next season. I thought after the end of Death in Heaven we were done with her. :(

I actually would have been happy if they had just stopped at 80 year old Clara. I thought that would have made a nice farewell to her character.

It was supposed to be Clara's farewell. You could tell in the cold open something was amiss from the way Clara touched the Doctor and spoke about being back in TARDIS, like she really hadn't done it in decades. The ending was supposed to parallel Clara's last minutes with the aged #11 near the end of last year's Christmas special. But, after all of Jenna Coleman's hemming and hawing about staying on or not, and finally deciding to stay, they did a hasty rewrite and filmed the additional scene. Very creditable job on the makeup BTW, though she didn't play old nearly as well as Matt Smith did.

Why did Jenna finally decide to stay? Was she looking for a better gig and couldn't find one? Perhaps she got spooked into returning by the fate of Karen Gillan's series _Selfie_? Was she really conflicted about whether or not she wanted another season? Or was it the usual base motives (i.e. just holding out for more money)?

Well, she'll be back, seemingly for a full season. This will give her a length of tenure equal to Karen Gillan's, and puts her in the same league as other long-serving companions like Sarah Jane and Romana. Hopefully she'll just be the companion now, not used as a plot device. And her final farewell is going to have to be something REALLY special.

cheers,

Gabe

YingJanshi · « **Reply #995 on:** 06 January 2015, 00:04:18 »

How much of it was really Coleman's decision? And how much was it the BBC making "drama"?

mdauben · « **Reply #996 on:** 14 January 2015, 10:55:37 »

I didn't notice right away, since there's no new Doctor Who episodes to watch right now, but I realized unril last night that my stupid cable system had dropped BBC America! [madflame]

I sent in a complaint, but I don't expect any satisfactory resposne. My cable system is littered with "junk" channels these days, and they drop one of the few broadcasting (mostly) quality programming. Feh! Maybe its time to drop cable altogether and just rely on Netflix or Amazon Prime for my viewing. :(

roosterboy · « **Reply #997 on:** 14 January 2015, 11:34:17 »

Netflix is losing all their BBC shows—including Doctor Who—at the end of the month.

monbvol · « **Reply #998 on:** 14 January 2015, 13:54:16 »

Not terribly surprising. It'd be nice if more of the networks/studios and Netflix could play nicer together but hey at least Netflix is going to be putting out a Dare Devil series in April.

mdauben · « **Reply #999 on:** 14 January 2015, 19:14:57 »

Quote from: roosterboy on 14 January 2015, 11:34:17

Netflix is losing all their BBC shows—including Doctor Who—at the end of the month.

Anyone here if Amazon is having any issues with the BBC? They have the complete run of the NuWho series in their Instant Video line so if they continue carrying the show next season it would be a viable alternative to my crappy cable.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1000 on:** 14 January 2015, 19:24:25 »

Don't really care about Netflix loosing Doctor Who. Hulu has a far, far bigger selection (almost all of them I think, except for the missing episodes and "Trial of a Timelord").

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #1001 on:** 14 January 2015, 19:45:56 »

In Netflix' case, it's just that they've not reached a new licensing agreement with the BBC yet. This has happened a few times recently with different shows or distributors and is frequently resolved before the deadline or shortly thereafter.

GreenDragon · « **Reply #1002 on:** 15 January 2015, 00:46:56 »

Quote from: YingJanshi on 14 January 2015, 19:24:25

Don't really care about Netflix loosing Doctor Who. Hulu has a far, far bigger selection (almost all of them I think, except for the missing episodes and "Trial of a Timelord").

Hulu Plus, not the free service.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1003 on:** 15 January 2015, 07:58:24 »

Sounds like providers trying to cash in on the Doctor Who gravy train whenever they can.

God, i miss it being on PBS in America, no worries about hyper-commercialism/capitalism.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1004 on:** 18 January 2015, 22:57:25 »

So watched "Fires of Pompeii" again tonight. Really brilliant episode. That's the kind of story I wish we'd get for series 9. Honestly though, except for the two part Sontaran story (which wasn't bad, just the weakest story of the series), Series 4 has about the best writing that nuWho has seen (at least IMHO). "Fire of Pompeii", "Planet of the Ood", "Turn Left", had some stories with real emotional punch (if you can watch the escape pod scene in FoP without at least getting a lump in your throat, you have no soul).

I've just felt that emotional depth from Series 5 on was just...lacking. They did try in Series 8. Notably "Kill the Moon", which in some ways reminds me of "Fires of Pompeii". In both the Doctor is faced with an impossible decision. Who lives? Who dies? But there are notable differences, for 1) when the 10th Doctor wants to leave, you feel like he is serious; when the 12th leaves it doesn't feel like he really left, only waiting in the wings to swoop in if Clara messes up. 2) when Donna chastises the Doctor for wanting to run away, it is because of her empathy, her humanity: the magnitude of what happens breaks her heart; when Clara chastises the Doctor, I can't help but feel that it isn't because of what might or might not of happened or how many people might have died: but because the Doctor put her in a difficult situation, made her make the tough decisions instead of making it for her. And finally 3) it really begins Donna's journey to become someone so much more special and important than she could ever imagine herself to be: for one moment... one shining moment... she was the most important woman in the whole wide universe. And as for Clara....oh she told the Doctor where to get off...but did that experience change her in anyway? No...by the next story she was back to her addiction...

So yeah, I want to see more stories with the emotional depth of "Fire of Pompeii"...I want a story to actually affect me....make me feel...not just look pretty...

(As a side note...did anyone else think Peter Capaldi was channeling Stan Laurel in that episode?

mdauben · « **Reply #1005 on:** 31 January 2015, 08:13:40 »

I just read that Amazon is dropping Doctor Who from their Instant Video service because they could not negotiate exclusive rights to the program. Since my cable dropped BBC altogether, looks like no Who for me next season. :'(

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #1006 on:** 01 February 2015, 20:10:48 »

Quote from: mdauben on 31 January 2015, 08:13:40

I just read that Amazon is dropping Doctor Who from their Instant Video service because they could not negotiate exclusive rights to the program. Since my cable dropped BBC altogether, looks like no Who for me next season. :'(

Fortunately the box sets usually come out fairly quickly after the season ends.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1007 on:** 01 February 2015, 23:55:47 »

Also, if you have a Windows PC, you can buy the season on Microsoft Video (or XBox Video if you have 360/One). They usually release them the day after it airs. That's how I watched season 8.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1008 on:** 02 February 2015, 07:05:00 »

Has there been talk about what next season may in tale? I was bit disappointing that the events of the Day of the Doctor, with time lords giving the Doctor second batch of regenerations didn't lead to movement behind that plot. I did miss half of the later part of season but doesn't sound like anything heart shattering accrued.

gyedid · « **Reply #1009 on:** 02 February 2015, 18:35:47 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 02 February 2015, 07:05:00

Has there been talk about what next season may in tale? I was bit disappointing that the events of the Day of the Doctor, with time lords giving the Doctor second batch of regenerations didn't lead to movement behind that plot. I did miss half of the later part of season but doesn't sound like anything heart shattering accrued.

Well, we know that the Master/Missy seems to have made it off Gallifrey somehow and knows its location. In "Death in Heaven", she lied to the Doctor about it still being in its original location.

cheers,

Gabe

monbvol · « **Reply #1010 on:** 02 February 2015, 18:40:13 »

Well I have a pet theory about that.

Gallifrey is still in it's original position(accounting for whatever drift may have occurred) but is still locked away/cannot be accessed by the Doctor. To me it seems the perfect half truth for the Master/Misstress in his/her final moment.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1011 on:** 03 February 2015, 00:10:13 »

Quote from: monbvol on 02 February 2015, 18:40:13

Well I have a pet theory about that.

Gallifrey is still in it's original position(accounting for whatever drift may have occurred) but is still locked away/cannot be accessed by the Doctor. To me it seems the perfect half truth for the Master/Misstress in his/her final moment.

Except that wasn't her final moments. Missy has already been confirmed to return in Series 9. That's one of the very few things we actually know about the upcoming series.

monbvol · « **Reply #1012 on:** 03 February 2015, 00:15:24 »

Ugh. Why can't they just let the Master/Misstress stay dead. I'm really starting to lose my tolerance for the crap in recent Doctor Who.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #1013 on:** 03 February 2015, 01:45:36 »

If there's one character who'll always come back from certain death in Doctor Who, it's the Master.

And Davros.

Two! If there are any two characters who'll always come back from certain death in Doctor who it's the Master, Davros and the Rani.

I'll come in again

monbvol · « **Reply #1014 on:** 03 February 2015, 11:43:37 »

I'd be more okay with it if the Master/Mistress were not quite so decidedly vaporized and hadn't been so overused.

Davros at least his end was questionable enough I could possibly tolerate his return if the story around it was good.

Rani, same.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1015 on:** 03 February 2015, 13:16:14 »

I'd like Missy more if she was different from the previous Master. Her personality seems exactly the same to me. But I guess that's what Moffet likes (see Moriarty in "Sherlock").

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1016 on:** 03 February 2015, 20:15:48 »

Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 03 February 2015, 01:45:36

If there's one character who'll always come back from certain death in Doctor Who, it's the Master.

And Davros.

Two! If there are any two characters who'll always come back from certain death in Doctor who it's the Master, Davros and the Rani.

I'll come in again

I'll take it. If there are any characters who'll return from certain death in Doctor Who, it's the Master, Davros, and the Rani. Oh and the Cybermen and the Daleks and...

Oh, wait..... [blank]

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1017 on:** 07 February 2015, 15:06:01 »

I know I've said it several times before, but everyone simply must check out the Sixth Doctor's adventures from Big Finish. They given a lot of depth to his personality. And allowed Colin to grow the character however he wished to.

So, that said, I have a bit of bittersweet news: the Sixth Doctor is getting his regeneration scene.

So we will finally get to learn what led to him regenerating into McCoy. And oh, yes, it will involve the Valeyard.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1018 on:** 08 February 2015, 00:05:44 »

I wonder how their going to do Collin Baker's last hurrah? CGI like they did in the new Terminator movie and some stand ins?

Not like he was old man when he regenerated, but we may see something of what were missing out.

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1019 on:** 08 February 2015, 00:14:52 »

From what it looks like, it's only going to be the audio play, so you'll have to imagine it.