Author Topic: Unified Doctor Who thread (Read 147508 times)

Wrangler · « **Reply #1380 on:** 25 December 2017, 23:51:26 »

Well, it's out in the wild.

It was interesting adventure. I like the beginning, it was interest twist near the end. I did find it strange that it ran little bit longer than i expected. (more than hour.)

Ruger · « **Reply #1381 on:** 26 December 2017, 00:01:21 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 25 December 2017, 23:51:26

Well, it's out in the wild.

It was interesting adventure. I like the beginning, it was interest twist near the end. I did find it strange that it ran little bit longer than i expected. (more than hour.)

I liked the reveal on who the WW1 captain actually was...

Ruger

Tymers Realm · « **Reply #1382 on:** 26 December 2017, 01:12:56 »

I just through watching it myself.
Quite interesting. I rather enjoyed the shout-outs to the original First Doctor material as well.
While I don't have a firm read on Capaldi's regen speech, I think you get the feeling he wanted a bottom-up change. And in full honesty, how can you do that than switching genders? The only thing I didn't care for was cliffhanging it like the Tennant/Smith transition.

gyedid · « **Reply #1383 on:** 26 December 2017, 01:53:25 »

Quote from: Ruger on 26 December 2017, 00:01:21

I liked the reveal on who the WW1 captain actually was...

Ruger

As if we couldn't see that coming from a mile away...

cheers,

Gabe

EDIT: I see the spoiler tag is STILL not working.

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1384 on:** 26 December 2017, 02:04:51 »

I miss Rusty. :( The whole episode was a feels fest, and while I enjoy those, I normally make fun of those. :(

(No offense, of course, I do so in a light hearted way, and try not to intentionally offend anyone.)

ActionButler · « **Reply #1385 on:** 26 December 2017, 06:57:00 »

Quote from: gyedid on 26 December 2017, 01:53:25

As if we couldn't see that coming from a mile away...

True, but it was still pretty satisfying, IMO.

I liked the epsiode, overall. BBCAmerica butchered it with the constant commercial breaks, but it was pretty solid. Chuckled at the Doctor's reaction when he found out what the the glass people were doing, loved Capaldi's final speech, really enjoyed Bradley as the First, super excited to see how Jodie takes to the role.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1386 on:** 26 December 2017, 06:58:27 »

I wish the spoiler tag was working or i'd talk in more detail. #P

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1387 on:** 26 December 2017, 21:12:50 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 26 December 2017, 06:58:27

I wish the spoiler tag was working or i'd talk in more detail. #P

I concur. Hence why I tried to keep my comment spoiler minimum. Even without knowing that Rusty's in the episode, I presume somebody knows that I like Rusty the Dalek*. :)

*From "Into the Dalek," of course. :)

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1388 on:** 26 December 2017, 22:22:50 »

Just finished it and...I'm completely broken-hearted. I knew it would suck saying goodbye to Capaldi's Doctor, but still...damn.
All in all, a really fine episode. I read a review of it earlier and they compared it favorably to "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" (Moffat's first TV episode). And in someways I can see what they were getting at.

And I concur, Capaldi's final speech was magnificent, poignant. Really boiled down the essence of his incarnation. Bradley was also brilliant as the first. I'm glad they could bring him back like that (and apparently he is also doing new First Doctor stories for Big Finish). And it's always fun to see Gatiss acting again. As sad as I am to see him go, I couldn't think of a better exit for Capaldi.

I'm sure Whittaker will make a brilliant Doctor. I just think I'm too much a fan of Capaldi in the role to really give her an unbiased try. Oh well, we'll see next autumn.

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1389 on:** 26 December 2017, 22:31:09 »

Quote from: YingJanshi on 26 December 2017, 22:22:50

I'm sure Whittaker will make a brilliant Doctor. I just think I'm too much a fan of Capaldi in the role to really give her an unbiased try. Oh well, we'll see next autumn.

That's about all we can do. Truthfully, I think Jodie will make a great Doctor.

Lazarus Jaguar · « **Reply #1390 on:** 27 December 2017, 00:11:44 »

And already people ate hating the new Doctor and saying the show has turned into Ghostbusters

I hate the Internet

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1391 on:** 27 December 2017, 02:34:04 »

Quote from: Lazarus Jaguar on 27 December 2017, 00:11:44

And already people ate hating the new Doctor and saying the show has turned into Ghostbusters

I hate the Internet

Meh. Don't listen to them. They complained when Matt Smith took over from David Tennant. They complained when Capaldi came on board ("He's too oooold!!). The Internet always finds something to whine about. I'm sure the new Doctor will turn out just fine. (If only we didn't have to wait so long though...)

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #1392 on:** 27 December 2017, 03:50:46 »

Quote from: YingJanshi on 27 December 2017, 02:34:04

Meh. Don't listen to them. They complained when Matt Smith took over from David Tennant. They complained when Capaldi came on board ("He's too oooold!!). The Internet always finds something to whine about. I'm sure the new Doctor will turn out just fine. (If only we didn't have to wait so long though...)

Who fanzines were complaining about the new guy about as long as there's been semi-organised Who fandom.

gyedid · « **Reply #1393 on:** 27 December 2017, 05:30:06 »

Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 27 December 2017, 03:50:46

Who fanzines were complaining about the new ~~guy~~ girl about as long as there's been semi-organised Who fandom.

FFY.

In this case, though, the complaints stem pretty well exclusively from the new actor's gender, not because of age, appearance, or lack of qualification for the role.

cheers,

Gabe

Wrangler · « **Reply #1394 on:** 27 December 2017, 08:14:51 »

I thought the actress who David Tennet costarred with in Broadchurch, Olivia Colman would been good choice as female doctor. Then again, Catherine Tate was awesome as David's companion, for short while was sharing his Doctor's abilities when there was two of him. I would loved see her in the role.

I just wanted the role go to who best tell a good story, no matter who they are.

I just hope the stories improved, Moff's stuff was hit and miss at times. I still think the "The Day of the Doctor" (when all the doctor's showed up) was the best.

ActionButler · « **Reply #1395 on:** 27 December 2017, 08:57:02 »

Well, Jodie was the mom in Broadchurch, so you were close.

Good call on Olivia Coleman, though, She would do nicely. I didn't have anyone in-mind this time, like I did last time. I retrospect, though, I would have liked to see Colin Salmon give the role a go. Or David Warner.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #1396 on:** 27 December 2017, 15:59:35 »

Quote from: gyedid on 27 December 2017, 05:30:06

FFY.

Nope, I was talking about fanzines in the days prior to the internets.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1397 on:** 27 December 2017, 17:05:19 »

So would anyone else think it would be interesting to see a Doctor stranded for a season? Would make a change (and hasn't been done really since the 3rd Doctor)...

ActionButler · « **Reply #1398 on:** 27 December 2017, 18:36:23 »

I could get behind a stranded season. I wondered if that wasn't the plan with the ending of the Christmas special. My big problem with that is that it requires that the threats come to the Doctor, rather than the other way round.

That being said... IF we get a stranded season, and IF it would happen to be in... say... Victorian London... and IF it would result in Vastra/Jenny/Strax as season-long companions... you could cast a small dog as the Doctor and I would watch it and love it.

Ruger · « **Reply #1399 on:** 27 December 2017, 18:50:07 »

Quote from: Lazarus Jaguar on 27 December 2017, 00:11:44

And already people ate hating the new Doctor and saying the show has turned into Ghostbusters

Considering the fact that the new Ghostbusters was freaking great and hilarious, I can see that comparison as a good thing...

Ruger

YingJanshi · « **Reply #1400 on:** 27 December 2017, 19:20:52 »

After talking to a couple other friends, and we all agreed that the only thing that was really worth griping about was how heavy handed they were about showing how sexist the First Doctor was. The first couple of times it was amusing seeing Bill's reaction, but after that it just became tedious. Yes, we get the point, times have changed, the Doctor has changed too. They could have been much more subtle and on point with that instead of whacking it with a sledgehammer.

Quote from: ActionButler on 27 December 2017, 18:36:23

I could get behind a stranded season. I wondered if that wasn't the plan with the ending of the Christmas special. My big problem with that is that it requires that the threats come to the Doctor, rather than the other way round.

That being said... IF we get a stranded season, and IF it would happen to be in... say... Victorian London... and IF it would result in Vastra/Jenny/Strax as season-long companions... you could cast a small dog as the Doctor and I would watch it and love it.

It's a shame they didn't get their own spinoff show. Of course I would also be interested if they did it that way with Kate Stewart as well.

gyedid · « **Reply #1401 on:** 28 December 2017, 00:48:13 »

Quote from: YingJanshi on 27 December 2017, 19:20:52

It's a shame they didn't get their own spinoff show. Of course I would also be interested if they did it that way with Kate Stewart as well.

The Who spinoffs have been pretty hit-or-miss IMO. Sarah Jane Adventures worked (at least until its star's untimely death), Torchwood was very uneven, and Class got canned after one season.

That said, one big thread that was left dangling (and I was pretty surprised it wasn't touched on at all this past season) was the infiltration of UNIT by The Shoal (the brain aliens) at the end of last year's Christmas special. I think addressing that problem would make a good basis for a UNIT-centred spinoff starring Jemma Redgrave.

Cheers, Gabe

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1402 on:** 28 December 2017, 01:36:22 »

I'm going to miss 12. :(

Lazarus Jaguar · « **Reply #1403 on:** 28 December 2017, 07:46:52 »

Was Class even a spin off? Or was it a different show somekne tacked the Doctor onto to try to make people watch it despite being unwatchable

Wrangler · « **Reply #1404 on:** 28 December 2017, 07:55:26 »

I'm not a fan of the stranded style seasons. :P

It will be interesting how they explain the doctor survives a plummeting from the Tardis while like 10,000 feet in the air?

Personally, i thought it was kinda silly for 12 to torch the Tardis (again) with his regeneration. Didn't the doctor learn from the last time 10 keep doing that and ended badly?!?

Sharpnel · « **Reply #1405 on:** 28 December 2017, 08:01:19 »

Quote from: Ruger on 27 December 2017, 18:50:07

Considering the fact that the new Ghostbusters was freaking great and hilarious, I can see that comparison as a good thing...

Ruger

Really? I can't remembr laughing during that film. I could see where they were trying to be funny, but they failed miserably, especially Kate McKinnon.

Wrangler · « **Reply #1406 on:** 28 December 2017, 12:50:35 »

Question: Billy that was in the Christmas special really a copy of her vs she returned and turned into a Sentient Oil (That's what Pilot was called on the wiki page species wise.)

ClarkeMarek · « **Reply #1407 on:** 28 December 2017, 16:46:53 »

I'm gonna take a guess and say it was established that she was effectively a copy. She may have been that living oil...whatever thing, but if she was, I guess the process basically rendered her a copy. Just my guess.

Luciora · « **Reply #1408 on:** 28 December 2017, 18:08:06 »

Man. What is wrong with the Doctor having a nice quiet regeneration? I guess today's audiences need to have a huge Bay-esque ending to start over? I really liked Capaldi as well, and I wish Jodie well in the new role, but the year hiatus they did for Capaldi pretty much killed my watching interest. I still love the series and will peek in on the wiki and this thread for example, but that's it for me.

ActionButler · « **Reply #1409 on:** 28 December 2017, 19:20:32 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 28 December 2017, 12:50:35

Question: Billy that was in the Christmas special really a copy of her vs she returned and turned into a Sentient Oil (That's what Pilot was called on the wiki page species wise.)

99.9% sure it was just a copy.
Otherwise what was the point of that line about a person just being a bunch of memories?