Unified Doctor Who thread

[monbvol]

And who knows, there could still be some of that energy left clinging on in there too.  Would explain why it has a tendency to be more destructive then his previous regenerations as well.

[GreenDragon]

Blame it on Highlander.

[Wrangler]

Only reason why i suggested Romana was because Tasha mentioned she died several times in that room. SEVEN TIMES and not many beings can retain their physical appearance. She like looking like a humanish person and really like the Doctor.  Romana was a timelord her fate wasn't quite made clear.  Anyways, gives the writers something to play with and you don't having worry about the actress getting too old for the part. River stuck with her own form because she died with that face but younger.

[Lore]

Not only is this a brilliant mash-up of the "Doctor Who" and "Batman" character mythologies... but it also serves as something of a fitting epilogue of sorts for DC's Final Crisis.

[Scotty]

"Several" does not mean "seven" it's roughly synonymous with "a few" and I'd put the upper cap at four.

[ANS Kamas P81]

For all we know, theDaleks killed her, brought her back, tortured her to death for information, brought her back, tortured her to death again...I took it to mean the Daleks were simply that brutal with Tasha than anything that she could do on her own.  You'll note she didn't realize her repeat deaths until she thought about the Dalek intrusion into the room; she was blocking it out for some reason.

[GreenDragon]

Tasha Lem can NOT be Romana.  Romana was a Time Lord.  (President even between the Doctor and Rassilon).  And all the Time Lords are gone.  The Doctor is the only one left.

And no.  Jenny does not count.  She is Gallifreyan, but she is not a Time Lord

[monbvol]

Not only is this a brilliant mash-up of the "Doctor Who" and "Batman" character mythologies... but it also serves as something of a fitting epilogue of sorts for DC's Final Crisis.

That makes entirely too much sense...

[YingJanshi]

For all we know, theDaleks killed her, brought her back, tortured her to death for information, brought her back, tortured her to death again...I took it to mean the Daleks were simply that brutal with Tasha than anything that she could do on her own.  You'll note she didn't realize her repeat deaths until she thought about the Dalek intrusion into the room; she was blocking it out for some reason.

That's what I took it to mean.

[Lore]

For all we know, theDaleks killed her, brought her back, tortured her to death for information, brought her back, tortured her to death again...I took it to mean the Daleks were simply that brutal with Tasha than anything that she could do on her own.  You'll note she didn't realize her repeat deaths until she thought about the Dalek intrusion into the room; she was blocking it out for some reason.

My memories of that scene are fading fast... but didn't Lem [or even the Doctor for that matter] allude to that anyway?

[GreenDragon]

That's how I took it as well.

[Wrangler]

Tasha Lem can NOT be Romana.  Romana was a Time Lord.  (President even between the Doctor and Rassilon).  And all the Time Lords are gone.  The Doctor is the only one left.

And no.  Jenny does not count.  She is Gallifreyan, but she is not a Time Lord

I don't remember who Jenny was.  Was she the clone/daughter of the Doctor or her 1st Doctor's granddaughter who is missing/not accounted for.

[monbvol]

Jenny is the Clone/Daughter.

[ColonelCody]

I don't remember who Jenny was.  Was she the clone/daughter of the Doctor or her 1st Doctor's granddaughter who is missing/not accounted for.

Susan is the granddaughter from 1st Doctor.

[Col.Hengist]

I've been waiting to see what they'll do with Jenny. She is, after all , another time lord.

[YingJanshi]

I've been waiting to see what they'll do with Jenny. She is, after all , another time lord.

Is she even acting anymore? I thought I had read she has quit for awhile.

[DoctorMonkey]

Is she even acting anymore? I thought I had read she has quit for awhile.

She is making small people with David Tennant - I think there is a real Doctor's granddaughter but probably not called Susan

[ColonelCody]

She is making small people with David Tennant - I think there is a real Doctor's granddaughter but probably not called Susan

The Doctor is a mysterious character and little is known about him except that he has a granddaughter, Susan Foreman, and that they come from another time and place. He has a ship that travels through time and space, the TARDIS, which is currently disguised as a police box (Susan notes that it used to be able to change to blend in with its surroundings), and is bigger on the inside. The Doctor describes himself and Susan as "exiles" without specifying why or even whether their exile is self-imposed. It would not be until the last adventure of the Doctor's second incarnation that the name of the Doctor's people (the Time Lords) would be revealed, and the third incarnation before the name of his home planet (Gallifrey) was first spoken.

From the 1st Doctor's Wiki entry.

[GreenDragon]

I've been waiting to see what they'll do with Jenny. She is, after all , another time lord.

Actually, that is exactly the opposite of my point.  She is not a Time Lord.  She is Gallifreyan, but she is not a Time Lord.  Not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords.

[YingJanshi]

The Doctor is a mysterious character and little is known about him except that he has a granddaughter, Susan Foreman, and that they come from another time and place. He has a ship that travels through time and space, the TARDIS, which is currently disguised as a police box (Susan notes that it used to be able to change to blend in with its surroundings), and is bigger on the inside. The Doctor describes himself and Susan as "exiles" without specifying why or even whether their exile is self-imposed. It would not be until the last adventure of the Doctor's second incarnation that the name of the Doctor's people (the Time Lords) would be revealed, and the third incarnation before the name of his home planet (Gallifrey) was first spoken.

From the 1st Doctor's Wiki entry.

Um...he's referencing the fact that the woman who played Jenny (Georgia Moffett) is married to David Tennant. (And interestingly she's the daughter of Peter Moffett, better known as Peter Davison: who played the 5th Doctor.)

[DoctorMonkey]

She had their second within about the last year (her third)

[YingJanshi]

Actually, that is exactly the opposite of my point.  She is not a Time Lord.  She is Gallifreyan, but she is not a Time Lord.  Not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords.

We actually don't know she isn't. The difference has never been explained. Is it simply that the Time Lords are Gallifreyan noblility? If so then she is a Time Lady (being the Doctor's daughter). Or is there more too it than that?

[monbvol]

It was stated in the episode where she was created that she could not regenerate and as such I think that may be the important distinction between regular Gallifreyan and Time Lord.

[YingJanshi]

It was stated in the episode where she was created that she could not regenerate and as such I think that may be the important distinction between regular Gallifreyan and Time Lord.

Except she did. Or enough to heal herself. The Doctor said that yes, but what if he had stuck around and saw her come back? What would he have said?

[Scotty]

"That's impossible."

You know, kinda like he does every other time something happens. ;)

[monbvol]

Except it clearly wasn't a Time Lord regeneration that brought her back.

Doctor Who has established that there is more then one way to cheat death.

[ColonelCody]

Except it clearly wasn't a Time Lord regeneration that brought her back.

Doctor Who has established that there is more then one way to cheat death.

What is 'Clearly' a Time Lord Regeneration? Because we know that it does not have to be  a nuclear reactor level high energy event when it happens, indeed I'd be surprised to find out that it was the norm, not the odd-ball. I think those high-energy reactions come for someone like the Doctor who were in special circumstances. Most Gallifreyans were probably much less...showy...

[GreenDragon]

She has not undergone the training.  She didn't look into the Vortex - as the Master did when he first heard the Drums - she has not been granted the title.  Nor did she, at the time we last saw her, have any access to time travel.  Certainly, she does not have access to Gallifrey, or any of the resources thereof.
Ergo, she is not a Time Lord.  The Doctor remains alone in that regard.

[monbvol]

What is 'Clearly' a Time Lord Regeneration? Because we know that it does not have to be  a nuclear reactor level high energy event when it happens, indeed I'd be surprised to find out that it was the norm, not the odd-ball. I think those high-energy reactions come for someone like the Doctor who were in special circumstances. Most Gallifreyans were probably much less...showy...

Changing physical appearance is mandatory unless there is an available receptacle to absorb excess regeneration energy like the Doctor's severed hand when the tenth regenerated but didn't change.  There was no available receptacle for Jenny to dump any excess off into.

Plus as noted she had never been exposed to the time vortex and being a Time Lord and having their particular method of cheating death is a matter of being exposed to the time vortex and not genetics.

[Arvanna]

Side question  did they ever explain how Romana escaped from E-Space?