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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1380 on: 06 August 2021, 22:50:08 »
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1381 on: 07 August 2021, 11:40:13 »
As someone in the other thread said, the sourcebook really just makes me want to double-down and Falcon Harder.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1382 on: 07 August 2021, 12:26:54 »
So as a someone who didn't read HotW, but has gone through IlClan: The Falcons are currently down to a single Cluster or so in total, the Mongol Doctrine is pretty much dead, and Stephanie Chistu is in charge? And we're the new Black Watch, soon to have ties with Northwind through Tara Fluidsurname? Did I miss anything?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1383 on: 07 August 2021, 13:18:45 »
Quote from: Weirdo on 07 August 2021, 12:26:54
So as a someone who didn't read HotW, but has gone through IlClan: The Falcons are currently down to a single Cluster or so in total, the Mongol Doctrine is pretty much dead, and Stephanie Chistu is in charge? And we're the new Black Watch, soon to have ties with Northwind through Tara Fluidsurname? Did I miss anything?

Well, she's the new Falcon saKhan, but we still don't know what the Highlanders will think of it.  I suspect the powers that be are leaning that way though.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1384 on: 07 August 2021, 13:56:19 »
Gotta say, I think this is probably the best-case outcome possible for the Falcons. The whole being reduced to a single Cluster bit kinda sucks, but purging large chunks of the Clan in order to purify the rest is kinda what Falcons do, anyway. Besides, now the former OZ is gonna be a new Chaos March for at least a bit, and those are always good for Battletech.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1385 on: 07 August 2021, 14:08:17 »
The Falcons also retained, if not in useful repair at the moment, two Black Lions, a Cameron, and a Fredasa as a WarShip fleet.  At full strength those would put them solidly in Top 5 most powerful black-water navies in the Sphere, still.  I'm hoping that particular detail doesn't disappear into the background during the rebuild.

I will be absolutely livid if Falcon paint schemes going forward include Tartan, though.  Something simple, please.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1386 on: 07 August 2021, 15:40:03 »


Can't be the Black Watch obviously, so Green Watch? With a green and yellow swatch?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1387 on: 07 August 2021, 16:10:41 »
Does anyone know what Northwind thinks on the matter. Sure the Falcons have the duchess, but the Highlanders have the numbers.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1388 on: 07 August 2021, 16:28:56 »
Don't worry. The Highlanders will roll over for now, and betray the Falcons later. Kinda their schtick at this point.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1389 on: 07 August 2021, 18:28:27 »
It's been a while, but what claim to the original Black Watch did the Highlanders have? From what I remember it was basically pulled out of their ass, so I can't imagine anybody named Hazen is going to really care what they think.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1390 on: 07 August 2021, 20:16:28 »
Absolutely none IIRC.

I think the original claim was "we liked the Black Watch, so we're going to appropriate their name for our little clubhouse"
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1391 on: 07 August 2021, 22:28:45 »
That was pretty much it. Their sole claim to legitimacy came from their secret club having actually lasted a hundred-odd years.

And that's coming from a Highlanders fan.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1392 on: 07 August 2021, 23:18:15 »
Well, I'm just starting on a Gyrfalcon Galaxy trinary, DA colours - eg. the dark metallic grey with green trim from the MW:DA figures. Using a Jade Hawk for my proof of concept. Base back, drybrush with gunmetal, ghostbrush with steel, then nuln oil. Details in green & steel. Then will have to paint up some Wolf DA unit as opfor ...
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1393 on: 08 August 2021, 10:05:27 »
It is unfortunate that the Falcons lost.  But I still consider them my favorite Clan.


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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1394 on: 08 August 2021, 10:17:44 »
Quote from: Scotty on 07 August 2021, 14:08:17
The Falcons also retained, if not in useful repair at the moment, two Black Lions, a Cameron, and a Fredasa as a WarShip fleet.  At full strength those would put them solidly in Top 5 most powerful black-water navies in the Sphere, still.  I'm hoping that particular detail doesn't disappear into the background during the rebuild.

I will be absolutely livid if Falcon paint schemes going forward include Tartan, though.  Something simple, please.

In CoK, it was stated the the Emerald Talon II, a Nightlord battleship, is under construction. If that doesn't make you wet your pants, you must not like warships. The fact that the Falcons are building a warship is huge! Then that warship is a Nightlord makes it even more huge.

The tricky part is holding onto the Butler system and it's ship yards. Tamar Rising is going to be an interesting book for the Jade Falcons. Based on what the Horses are doing in ilClan, they appear to be preparing to take Falcon worlds leading to Terra. Let's hoping that they don't go after the heart of the Falcon OZ. Worlds like Sudeten, Butler, and Alyina need to stay in Falcon possession.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1395 on: 08 August 2021, 10:50:21 »
Quote from: MarauderCH IIC on 08 August 2021, 10:17:44
The tricky part is holding onto the Butler system and it's ship yards. Tamar Rising is going to be an interesting book for the Jade Falcons. Based on what the Horses are doing in ilClan, they appear to be preparing to take Falcon worlds leading to Terra. Let's hoping that they don't go after the heart of the Falcon OZ. Worlds like Sudeten, Butler, and Alyina need to stay in Falcon possession.

Is there such a thing as "Falcon Possession?"

They exist as the honor guard of Clan Wolf now, right?

I guess phrasing in Ilclan makes that a bit different. They say the clan will go on. After reading Hour of the Wolf I was under the impression that they're like the Smoke Jaguars now. Not like... a territory holding clan.

Tamar Rising even says, "Events in the former Jade Falcon Occupation Zone."
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1396 on: 08 August 2021, 11:15:06 »
Quote from: MarauderCH IIC on 08 August 2021, 10:17:44
In CoK, it was stated the the Emerald Talon II, a Nightlord battleship, is under construction. If that doesn't make you wet your pants, you must not like warships. The fact that the Falcons are building a warship is huge! Then that warship is a Nightlord makes it even more huge.

The tricky part is holding onto the Butler system and it's ship yards. Tamar Rising is going to be an interesting book for the Jade Falcons. Based on what the Horses are doing in ilClan, they appear to be preparing to take Falcon worlds leading to Terra. Let's hoping that they don't go after the heart of the Falcon OZ. Worlds like Sudeten, Butler, and Alyina need to stay in Falcon possession.
I think it is a question of who gets it the renewed Tamar Pact or the Clan Hells Horses.  I don’t think there is enough Falcon Warriors in the OZ to make a cluster.  Considering one planet had two warriors protecting it in 3150 just before the CHH was pushing towards Terra may support my theory.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1397 on: 08 August 2021, 11:46:50 »
Quote from: MarauderCH IIC on 08 August 2021, 10:17:44
In CoK, it was stated the the Emerald Talon II, a Nightlord battleship...

Which part of the text confirms that the GreenFinger Deuce is a Nightlord? Or even confirmed to be a true WarShip, as opposed to merely a warship?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1398 on: 08 August 2021, 12:17:40 »
Quote from: Kitsune413 on 08 August 2021, 10:50:21
They exist as the honor guard of Clan Wolf now, right?

Clan Jade Falcon exists as part of the Third Star League that is led by the ilClan.  If it existed as part of another Clan there would have been no point in electing new leadership.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1399 on: 08 August 2021, 13:26:29 »
Quote from: Kitsune413 on 08 August 2021, 10:50:21
Is there such a thing as "Falcon Possession?"

They exist as the honor guard of Clan Wolf now, right?

I guess phrasing in Ilclan makes that a bit different. They say the clan will go on. After reading Hour of the Wolf I was under the impression that they're like the Smoke Jaguars now. Not like... a territory holding clan.

Tamar Rising even says, "Events in the former Jade Falcon Occupation Zone."


Until I read about it in a published novel or sourcebook, everything the Jade Falcons possessed going into Terra is still in their possession. There has been an abundance of speculating that the Lyrans and Horses are just going to roll over the JF OZ. It's probably going to happen to some extent. We have yet to see what is going to happen.

Are the Jade Falcons just a Wolf honor guard now? That's your way of looking at it. A rather simple way of looking at it. But the Jade Falcon story is far from over and isn't going to be easy. They are now the Royal Black Watch. The elite of the new ilClan SLDF for which other units are to be measured against. Then there is the Tara Campbell/Jade Falcon story line. I think the Falcons will have a big part of the new story. The pieces are there.

As for events in the former Jade Falcon OZ in Tamar Rising, we will see what happens...
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1400 on: 08 August 2021, 14:34:35 »
The Falcons pulled up almost everything from all their planets when they went for Terra.  They left no forces behind greater than a few Solahma units with poorly kept 3rd line (at best) mechs.  If I remember right, Hour of the Wolf made mention of one planet that had nothing but a single well aged star to defend it.  A previous book was all about how the falcons were taking pretty much anything that wasn't nailed down if they thought they would need it.

The planets may still fly a Jade Falcon flag, but they are hardly what you could call "held".
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1401 on: 10 August 2021, 17:17:14 »
Quote from: MarauderCH IIC on 08 August 2021, 13:26:29

Until I read about it in a published novel or sourcebook, everything the Jade Falcons possessed going into Terra is still in their possession. There has been an abundance of speculating that the Lyrans and Horses are just going to roll over the JF OZ. It's probably going to happen to some extent. We have yet to see what is going to happen.

Are the Jade Falcons just a Wolf honor guard now? That's your way of looking at it. A rather simple way of looking at it. But the Jade Falcon story is far from over and isn't going to be easy. They are now the Royal Black Watch. The elite of the new ilClan SLDF for which other units are to be measured against. Then there is the Tara Campbell/Jade Falcon story line. I think the Falcons will have a big part of the new story. The pieces are there.

As for events in the former Jade Falcon OZ in Tamar Rising, we will see what happens...

As someone who loves the Amaris civil war and Klondike, I think it is pretty cool.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1402 on: 24 August 2021, 15:38:12 »
The Merchant Queen of Alyina?



An interesting tidbit that appeared in the interview with Ray Arrastia on Sarna today...


Take note that the Hierofalcon, Ion Sparrow, and Jade Pheonix are all produced on Alyina
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1403 on: 25 August 2021, 00:09:00 »
Imagine if she was a Falcon warrior who tested down to the merchant caste...

That would be very interesting.
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« Reply #1404 on: 25 August 2021, 01:38:15 »
Quote from: MarauderCH IIC on 24 August 2021, 15:38:12
The Merchant Queen of Alyina?



An interesting tidbit that appeared in the interview with Ray Arrastia on Sarna today...


Take note that the Hierofalcon, Ion Sparrow, and Jade Pheonix are all produced on Alyina

Hierofalcon, Ion Sparrow, and Jade Phoenix for everybody I guess.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1405 on: 29 August 2021, 14:04:32 »
While I understand the Jade Falcons are not a democracy, in honor of the new age of serving the Star League in what its whatever version it is now.  Maybe we can decide on the name of the next thread before the thread starts?
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« Reply #1406 on: 29 August 2021, 15:52:02 »
Clan Jade Falcon Thread III: What size kilt do you wear?
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« Reply #1407 on: 29 August 2021, 16:00:57 »
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« Reply #1408 on: 29 August 2021, 16:27:09 »
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« Reply #1409 on: 29 August 2021, 16:27:56 »
Clan Jade Falcon Thread: Bird Black Watching in the ilClan Era
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