GenCon 2023 Diorama Discussion

[Colt Ward]

I cannot link the pictures at this time BUT . . .

We had representatives of the Wolves, Jaguars, Falcons and Snow Raven ground forces fighting a Capellan force.  I do not remember the Capellans, but I think a regular CCAF force and House Hiritsu.  It was described as a Clan coalition (huh, that is another word for League . . . ) battling Capellans on . . . I forget, but a old Chaos March world that the Capellans had taken back from the Republic.

I know I saw for the Wolves the tiger stripe paint scheme, which IIRC is a Gamma? scheme.  I know I saw the Crucible and a Timber Wolf in that scheme.  The Jaguars had a star of a Dire Wolf, Cauldron Born, Mist Lynx and 2 others- not sure if they got Elementals.  Not sure what Falcon or Raven formation or mechs were involved

[Geg]

Tau Ceti IV
December 3151

The ilClan and its allies, Clan Jade Falcon, Snow Raven, and Smoke Jaguar land on New Earth, only to meet layers of resistance from the Capella Confederations Warrior House Hiritsu.  The fighting on the city outskirts quickly degenerates into a chaotic fur ball.

Caption posted to my discord.  Looks like the NuJags and the Fidellis didn't fair too well during the invasion of Terra.   Needing to comeback and dislodge a warrior house core ward of Terra is interesting.  However, I suspect the Ravens are involved mostly to show off the Blood Asp mini.

[Colt Ward]

IIRC those who became Jaguars followed Alaric off their world, so they would not have been around.  What happened to the Fidelis . . . well, they did not want to become Clan- I thought they were set to leave their world.

Even if the Ravens are just present for the Blood Asps, that will portend some interesting negotiations for the Clan League.  I mean, for all we know they could be a 'observer' star such as happened during the original Invasion.

[Geg]

IIRC those who became Jaguars followed Alaric off their world, so they would not have been around.  What happened to the Fidelis . . . well, they did not want to become Clan- I thought they were set to leave their world.

Even if the Ravens are just present for the Blood Asps, that will portend some interesting negotiations for the Clan League.  I mean, for all we know they could be a 'observer' star such as happened during the original Invasion.

I had thought the Fidelis stayed on New Earth with Paul Moon.

[tassa_kay]

I mean, for all we know they could be a 'observer' star such as happened during the original Invasion.

Could you explain this to me? Not being a smartass; I'm genuinely wanting to know because I'm not as familiar with the nitty-gritty details of the original invasion.

[Death_from_above]

Could you explain this to me? Not being a smartass; I'm genuinely wanting to know because I'm not as familiar with the nitty-gritty details of the original invasion.

There's this fluff/background on Sarna :

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Invasion

Additionally, the remaining Clans not participating in the invasion were invited to send observers along with the invasion force, consisting of no more than a Trinary-sized ground contingent but any number of WarShips and other interstellar craft. All of them choose to send both of their Khans to serve as witnesses


Somewhat related :

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Battle_of_Tukayyid_(3052)

Clan Goliath Scorpion also participated in the battle, with Scorpion saKhan Ren Posavatz leading Crimson Seeker Star, who were on a Seeker quest and had negotiated permission from the Steel Vipers to accompany them under condition that they not attempt to claim possession of any territory.

[Shin_Fenris]

There's this fluff/background on Sarna :
Clan Goliath Scorpion also participated in the battle, with Scorpion saKhan Ren Posavatz leading Crimson Seeker Star, who were on a Seeker quest and had negotiated permission from the Steel Vipers to accompany them under condition that they not attempt to claim possession of any territory.

That's a fun tidbit. Might run something with that.

[tassa_kay]

Clan Goliath Scorpion also participated in the battle, with Scorpion saKhan Ren Posavatz leading Crimson Seeker Star, who were on a Seeker quest and had negotiated permission from the Steel Vipers to accompany them under condition that they not attempt to claim possession of any territory.

This one I kinda knew about just from people talking about it on here from time to time, though I'm curious why this particular tidbit was excluded from the newer Battle of Tukayyid book.

Anyways, sorry for the tangent, y'all. And thank you for providing some clarity on this!

[Colt Ward]

No, I think it is a legit avenue of inquiry . . . I mean we could have Ravens observing how the ilClan proposes to integrate forces from different Clans into one operational chain of command with the Wolves, Falcons, and Jaguars doing a demo.

[Generic Clanner 24601]

No, I think it is a legit avenue of inquiry . . . I mean we could have Ravens observing how the ilClan proposes to integrate forces from different Clans into one operational chain of command with the Wolves, Falcons, and Jaguars doing a demo.

We have a passage in Dominions Divided saying the Ravens working under the authority of the Star League. Add to the fact that they don't have a particular reason not to join the Star League. So, they are likely fighting under the Star League banner.

At least until it no longer benefits them.

[Geg]

We have a passage in Dominions Divided saying the Ravens working under the authority of the Star League. Add to the fact that they don't have a particular reason not to join the Star League. So, they are likely fighting under the Star League banner.

At least until it no longer benefits them.

But that's many many months of travel away.   This is maybe 6 months time after the proclamation of the ilClan

[Colt Ward]

Raven Khan & saKhan were there for the declaration along with a star? of warships.  It would make sense they brought their keshiks if not each galaxies' premier cluster.

[tassa_kay]

But that's many many months of travel away.   This is maybe 6 months time after the proclamation of the ilClan

The Ravens showed up with a full naval Star for said proclamation. They could've easily had some ground forces tagging along that stuck around. I don't see this as an issue.

[Geg]

The Ravens showed up with a full naval Star for said proclamation. They could've easily had some ground forces tagging along that stuck around. I don't see this as an issue.

Agreed,

I don't see the Raven Alliance undergoing major troop transports before they had even met with Alaric.  I think my point was that this was more of an honor guard and dignitaries along with Alaric using every part of the buffalo (troops on hand).

[Decoy]

IIRC The Corvus Keshik is a trinary each of Aerospace, Mechs, and Battle Armor and goes wherever the Khan goes.

[Church14]

Tau Ceti IV
December 3151

The ilClan and its allies, Clan Jade Falcon, Snow Raven, and Smoke Jaguar land on New Earth, only to meet layers of resistance from the Capella Confederations Warrior House Hiritsu.  The fighting on the city outskirts quickly degenerates into a chaotic fur ball.

If this is the case, looks like Capellans were proactive and surrounded more of Terra while Alaric rebuilt his forces to some sort of functional.

Could explain his lack of comms to the Empore if Capellans own enough planets between empire and Terra to interdict a jumpship. Especially if House Hiritsu pushes them back.

[tassa_kay]

IIRC The Corvus Keshik is a trinary each of Aerospace, Mechs, and Battle Armor and goes wherever the Khan goes.

Yep. And I was actually gonna ask if someone knew what parade colors/insignia (if any) the Raven forces were rocking in the diorama. Corvus Keshik makes a lot of sense here.

[Colt Ward]

This is the pictures I saw, which updates- the Wolves are fielding a Ares in gray paint . . . a Atlas and Highlander in tiger stripe,  Amorak as well . . . maybe 2 different artists doing tiger stripe b/c there is another Crucible and a Stormwolf I think.  And yeah, a Raven ASF.

[GuyIncognito]

Tera them apart, Cappies.

[VanVelding]

Tau Ceti IV
December 3151

The ilClan and its allies, Clan Jade Falcon, Snow Raven, and Smoke Jaguar land on New Earth, only to meet layers of resistance from the Capella Confederations Warrior House Hiritsu.  The fighting on the city outskirts quickly degenerates into a chaotic fur ball.

Caption posted to my discord...However, I suspect the Ravens are involved mostly to show off the Blood Asp mini.

I never thought of seeing Clans fighting side by side. I assumed they'd just become Wolf units like the Hellions did within the Goliath Scorpions. I can't think of when they've done that instead of dividing things up by Clan. Luthien? Jihad? Wars of Reaving maybe? That's a big deal.

Also, if I had a Blood Asp to show, I'd invade someone just to show it off. Politics be damned. That 'mech ******.

Clan Goliath Scorpion also participated in the battle, with Scorpion saKhan Ren Posavatz leading Crimson Seeker Star, who were on a Seeker quest and had negotiated permission from the Steel Vipers to accompany them under condition that they not attempt to claim possession of any territory.

R.I.P.

[Colt Ward]

We knew the Wolves would not be absorbing the other Clans- might order them around, but not absorbing.  Otherwise Alaric would not have said the Jaguars would be re-established by the ilKhan when the time came.

[Generic Clanner 24601]

We knew the Wolves would not be absorbing the other Clans- might order them around, but not absorbing.  Otherwise Alaric would not have said the Jaguars would be re-established by the ilKhan when the time came.

Yeah. Can't be on top when you're the only one.

[VensersRevenge]

Capellans on New Earth? It really is a new era, and likely not a great sign for the Lyrans doing anything in IKEO

[Church14]

Capellans on New Earth? It really is a new era, and likely not a great sign for the Lyrans doing anything in IKEO

Lyrans were never going to do much in ilKEO. Unless they went on a massive warpath, they are just too far away to worry Terra. At least for a while.

[Geg]

Capellans on New Earth? It really is a new era, and likely not a great sign for the Lyrans doing anything in IKEO

Do the Lyrans even have an army to do stuff with these days?

[VensersRevenge]

Considering two RCTs, a mercenary regiment, and a Clan defected, it's debatable. But I was holding onto (naive) hope they would move back into Skye

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Do the Lyrans even have an army to do stuff with these days?

They have the material.  It's the will that's been lacking.

[Death_from_above]

Top picture also gives us a first look at the new Visigoth mini, nice !

[Lorcan Nagle]

Considering two RCTs, a mercenary regiment, and a Clan defected, it's debatable. But I was holding onto (naive) hope they would move back into Skye

Skye appears to be independent for now, if you look at the maps in Dominions Divided you can just about see the edge of the region, and it's labelled "Isle of Skye"

[Death_from_above]

More pics from the Book of Faces.. (CamoSpecs' page)

https://www.facebook.com/camospecs/posts/pfbid02E6D2TxBiWLhGTBgq5EUXf5g1ycXsTNZSziifXtmqmoUejGzrcdikhxZqVWod5RXXl

Does that Dire Wolf have Aztec-style decoration on the upper torso ?