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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #30 on: 12 November 2021, 20:14:13 »
You are right about his ride- still a Alpha Galaxy Commander not having a Omni . . . or the whole premier cluster of a Alpha Galaxy not being fitted out with Omnis- like FMWC says- is bonkers.  But it is a Arana in Myers keshik or working with it- built in 3087 when the Scorpions moved to the NC region- that I was thining of is in Chapter 35.  A Kodiak for the Scorps?

It's the Scorpions. They do...*nuanced*, better than most. It's not a flaw, it's a feature.

Look at the FMWC/FMU for that formation- should be Omnis.  Further, the Jaguar cast-offs left on Wayside to die of old age?  Too many bloodnames and too many Omnis to be the desperate Jaguars.

The tables have long been a guide, and not something meant to be taken as carved in stone. The BattleMechs appearing among the 35th Cuirassiers, or the Onagers, Shadow Cat IIs, or even Malvina's Shrike among the 100% Omni Raptor Keshik are proof enough of this.
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« Reply #31 on: 24 December 2021, 15:02:25 »
So, how about those Star Pythons and Star Crusaders...  :D 8)

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« Reply #32 on: 24 December 2021, 15:03:46 »
Brought to you by the funslayer.  :)

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« Reply #33 on: 24 December 2021, 15:41:33 »
Good to see Hellions are still causing trouble, getting in tantrums and going feral.

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« Reply #34 on: 24 December 2021, 16:40:10 »
So, how about those Star Pythons and Star Crusaders...  :D 8)

very niiiice!

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« Reply #35 on: 24 December 2021, 19:47:22 »
Brought to you by the funslayer.  :)

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I'll take two.

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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #36 on: 25 December 2021, 02:21:00 »
So far, local consensus seems to be on the Star Crusader A (And a pack of Star Pythons)

What do other people think?

Also pairing them with a Night Gyr T

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« Reply #37 on: 25 December 2021, 07:00:17 »
So far, local consensus seems to be on the Star Crusader A (And a pack of Star Pythons)

What do other people think?

Also pairing them with a Night Gyr T

My favorite of those designs when Comstar first put them out was the Raijin, so I wish the Scorpions had gotten that one too.

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« Reply #38 on: 25 December 2021, 11:33:44 »
Maybe they will one day. Could be they have the schematics but haven't done anything with them yet.

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« Reply #39 on: 25 December 2021, 11:47:00 »
This is just step one of Doc Swift's plans to revive the Celestial series, in the Empire.

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« Reply #40 on: 25 December 2021, 11:57:01 »
Oh, I have grander plans than that!

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« Reply #41 on: 25 December 2021, 14:22:31 »
I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned the new Galaxy...

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« Reply #42 on: 25 December 2021, 15:21:46 »
Eta? Mix of free and trueborns?
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« Reply #43 on: 25 December 2021, 21:01:36 »
Okay, I can admit when I'm wrong. Intro, Blakist, Mixed, and even EC-tech mechs and tanks. Armed Indys (which I'd previously thought declared extinct in the Empire for some reason) and small combat support vees. Conventional fighters and small craft gunships. No less than four classes of purely IS-tech battlesuits, not to mention what may be the last faction listing for Corona suits.

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« Reply #44 on: 25 December 2021, 22:05:39 »
Sounds like Weirdo just became a die hard Scorpion fanboy!

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« Reply #45 on: 25 December 2021, 23:42:00 »
Eta? Mix of free and trueborns?

Hopefully a sign of continued progress.

It would be delicious for Imperial Celestials to appear

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« Reply #46 on: 26 December 2021, 02:37:30 »
I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned the new Galaxy...

Didn't we already reveal Eta in Moving Forward?
Maybe they will one day. Could be they have the schematics but haven't done anything with them yet.

Even if they have the schematics, remember the files used to create the Star Python were damaged and had to be sent to a civilian contractor to be restored.
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« Reply #47 on: 26 December 2021, 02:57:37 »
You're correct. I never know if everyone reads the fiction, but I expect that most people do read TROs and the like.  :)

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« Reply #48 on: 26 December 2021, 09:33:52 »
So, ¿the Star Phyton is getting another line in Gateway besides the line(s) in Imperial BattleMechs of Braunschweig?
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« Reply #49 on: 26 December 2021, 09:36:55 »
So, ¿the Star Phyton is getting another line in Gateway besides the line(s) in Imperial BattleMechs of Braunschweig?

Gateway was the first full production line. Everything before that were prototypes. No idea if they start another line on another planet.
Remember, the RecGuide is set before Moving Forward. The Mech is still in limited/prototype production state at that point. The Foxes simply didn't know about the factory being set up on Gateway.
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« Reply #50 on: 26 December 2021, 09:48:03 »
Gateway was the first full production line. Everything before that were prototypes. No idea if they start another line on another planet.


Maybe i got it wrong. The RecGuide #23 list the production site of the mech at Imperial BattleMechs of Braunschweig. But the  "MOVING FORWARD" story at Sharpnel #6 states that a line is beign built in Gateway.

So, Gateway´s line was the first, and later they added another production site at Braunschweig´s Imperial BattleMechs?
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« Reply #51 on: 26 December 2021, 09:50:26 »

Maybe i got it wrong. The RecGuide #23 list the production site of the mech at Imperial BattleMechs of Braunschweig. But the  "MOVING FORWARD" story at Sharpnel #6 states that a line is beign built in Gateway.

So, Gateway´s line was the first, and later they added another production site at Braunschweig´s Imperial BattleMechs?

My edit came to late ;)
The RecGuide is set earlier. The Mech is still in prototype/limited production state at that point. Gateway was the first full production line.
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« Reply #52 on: 26 December 2021, 09:56:16 »
My edit came to late ;)
The RecGuide is set earlier. The Mech is still in prototype/limited production state at that point. Gateway was the first full production line.

Got it. So while there is some production at Braunschweig, the first "proper" factory line is at Gateway. Also, if i understanded correctly (english is not my main language) the Scorpions have a "Hephaestus Station". ¿Is something similar to the orbital assembly line the Wolf´s Dragoons used to have?
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« Reply #53 on: 26 December 2021, 09:58:42 »
No, the Hephaestus line was cut from Moving Forward via errata. Plans changed between writing and release of the story and it was forgotten to cut it before release.
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« Reply #54 on: 26 December 2021, 10:09:05 »
No, the Hephaestus line was cut from Moving Forward via errata. Plans changed between writing and release of the story and it was forgotten to cut it before release.

Was not aware of the erratas. So, based on that, we can assume that the first test moderl were produced at Braunschweig, but the first production models at Gateway?
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« Reply #55 on: 26 December 2021, 10:13:42 »
Was not aware of the erratas. So, based on that, we can assume that the first test moderl were produced at Braunschweig, but the first production models at Gateway?

That seems correct, yes. We don't know if the prototype line was later refurbished for full production or used for something else, though.
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« Reply #56 on: 26 December 2021, 10:20:15 »
That seems correct, yes. We don't know if the prototype line was later refurbished for full production or used for something else, though.


While the RecGuides are usually made as in-universe documents, with all the miss-information and errors that it can entail, the information on the TROs (and RecGuides) tend to be correct.
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« Reply #57 on: 26 December 2021, 23:06:03 »
Also we have Scorpion activity in the "former" [Huh... wonder what happened there] Coreward Confederacy world of Norfolk.

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« Reply #58 on: 27 December 2021, 03:34:05 »

While the RecGuides are usually made as in-universe documents, with all the miss-information and errors that it can entail, the information on the TROs (and RecGuides) tend to be correct.

Yeah. I think Moving Forward made it clear that the Star Python entering regular production on Gateway was a political move. The Khan was running a long game with Emmy Line. Look deep enough and you might find him machinating a lot of things in the background to get her where she ended up. Her own decisions might not really have been her own over large parts of her career once she caught his eye.
That's all speculation, though. So far we have not seen any of that and just because I imagine it happening doesn't mean it really did. Gateway being a political move is quite clear, based on the sources we have.
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« Reply #59 on: 27 December 2021, 08:16:02 »
Really impressed with the Scorpions getting the former C* and WoB Mechs, hopefully they'll get some of the other designs like the Initiate, Lightray, Grim Reaper and Toyama.