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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #30 on: 09 November 2024, 15:20:09 »
Real engineering is all about squeezing every last advantage out of designs as possible.  We might call it cheese, but in real life it can be life or death.

LOL,  I like this,  I'm stealing it to justify my dipping into "cheese".

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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #31 on: 09 November 2024, 15:39:58 »
By all means, good sir! :)

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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #32 on: 09 November 2024, 15:48:47 »
If I was designing a "Titan-ish" ship from scratch, I'd probably set up my bays to look something like this.


I capped the guns at 12/Bay to avoid any FC tonnage & they focus more on Long Range instead of Short.
But that is starting from scratch & doesn't match the basic layout of the Titan well.

Nice layout for a clean sheet build I'd definately "borrow" the idea, thanks :)


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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #33 on: 09 November 2024, 20:13:47 »
Could be... either way, I hope it's an easy answer.

The counter argument I've seen to Dragon Cat's point is that AMS fire control is built in to the mount.

But it would still need to feed into a ships systems so you'd need wiring, computers to tell it that the missiles were coming in on target, computers to tell the AMS's FCS that the ship's own missiles were not to be engaged

Regardless if the AMS had self guidance you'd still need more internal gubbins within the ship meaning more tonnage
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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #34 on: 13 November 2024, 21:26:17 »
 Point defense, why not use small pulse lasers instead of AMS? No ammo to worry about plus the to hit bonus. Though they can run up the heat quick depending on how many incoming missiles. Put 3-4 in each bay.

 Even if Royal, with the Nav Comm Scanner, I would make it a "command" ship, then 1 per division of six Titans.

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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #35 on: 13 November 2024, 21:44:41 »
Non-AMS point defense bays can only respond to a single missile attack each round, while AMS can respond to every missile attack in a round as long as they have ammunition and/or heat dissipation.

They are also half(ish) as effective as AMS against the missile attacks they can engage, as their capital value is divided in half (rounded normally) when determining their affect on missile attacks.

So even if you want to go for the maximum exploitation of the rules and mount numerous bays each containing two small pulse lasers, or expect to only ever counter one missile attack a round, AMS are just the more efficient option.
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Re: A (Royal?) Titan in 2750
« Reply #36 on: 13 November 2024, 22:17:49 »
Liam has that entirely right!  AMS are SO much better at the anti-missile game than other Point Defense (read: dual use) weapons! :)