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Daryk

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Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« on: 05 January 2025, 17:19:46 »
As a long delayed follow up to my "Lift Hoists Exist" thread, here are tracked, fusion-powered recovery vehicles:

"Heavy" Recovery Vehicle (can carry up to 75 tons at 5/8, 100 tons at 3/5):
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Heavy Tracked Recovery Vehicle

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-D
Production Year: 2440
Dry Cost: 1,987,500 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,987,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 307

Power Plant: Generic 300 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: Lightweight Steel Panels Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer: Various
    Primary Factory: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting and Tracking System: None

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                5.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      28.50
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  80                  5.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     20       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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3 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         3         9.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 3
6t         0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE

"Medium" Recovery Vehicle (up to 60 tons at 5/8, 90 tons at 3/5):
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Medium Tracked Recovery Vehicle

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-D
Production Year: 2440
Dry Cost: 864,500 C-Bills
Total Cost: 864,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 184

Power Plant: Generic 180 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: Lightweight Steel Panels Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer: Various
    Primary Factory: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting and Tracking System: None

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      12 points                3.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                180                      10.50
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     13       
                                          Left/Right   13/13       
                                                Rear     9         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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4 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         4        12.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
6t         0       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE

"Light" Recovery Vehicle (up to 37.5 tons at 5/8 and 62.5 tons at 3/5; Fractional Accounting nets it four points of armor, 3 for the Front, 1 Rear):
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Light Tracked Recovery Vehicle

Mass: 25 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-D
Production Year: 2440
Dry Cost: 637,500 C-Bills
Total Cost: 637,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 204

Power Plant: Generic 150 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: Lightweight Steel Panels Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer: Various
    Primary Factory: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting and Tracking System: None

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      12 points                2.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                150                       8.50
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  56                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     18       
                                          Left/Right   13/13       
                                                Rear     12       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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3 (R) Lift Hoists                            RR        0         3         9.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
6t         0       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #1 on: 05 January 2025, 20:59:12 »
So these seem really handy.  Two questions though

1, what does fusion add for a logistics vehicle.  Mostly the increased range I guess?  Speed too a little bit I guess, but is ICE that much slower?

2, more a rules nerd thing, but I would like some cargo for an exosquad loader team or infantry squad loader team.  Someone needs to step out of the truck and rig the lift hoists still, right?  Yeah it could just be a transport that drives alongside with the hands on team, but feels like the recovery vehicle with a little bay could be a one stop shop, and also have space to stick the downed mechwarriors.

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #2 on: 06 January 2025, 04:22:16 »
Fusion adds fuel independence.  If you want ICE, I did that in the first thread... :)

As for crew, the 50 ton one has 3 extra personnel beside the driver while the other two have one.  The canon Recovery Vehicles just leave "cargo" space, and that's covered by the Lift Hoists here.  If you want to rush a tech team to the recovery site, use an APC or Ferret... ;)

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #3 on: 06 January 2025, 04:28:29 »
Isn't the tractor-trailer speed is determined as if it's a single unit with the weight of the sum of all the units and using the engine of the tractor only? Is carry the load via lift hoist different with this? Good. Then it would serve as the better tractor....

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #4 on: 06 January 2025, 04:44:42 »
I think the Lift Hoist rules were written by a different person than the trailer rules.  For Recovery Vehicles, any "trailer" is just fluff/art.

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #5 on: 06 January 2025, 07:27:40 »
Isn't the tractor-trailer speed is determined as if it's a single unit with the weight of the sum of all the units and using the engine of the tractor only? Is carry the load via lift hoist different with this? Good. Then it would serve as the better tractor....

That was the old rules although I do like them. Carrying cargo is in TW and a set half move over half weight basically and no flank at mass. Loft Hoists are weird though and I believe double the effective Tow mass while not requiring riggers.

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #6 on: 06 January 2025, 07:41:46 »
Lift Hoists enable a vehicle to carry 50% of its weight each and also make it so the move penalty is only -1 MP up to the capacity of the hoists alone.  Once you start using the mass of the vehicle for cargo, movement is halved.
« Last Edit: 06 January 2025, 16:45:56 by Daryk »

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #7 on: 06 January 2025, 15:59:41 »
Wait, aren't Lift Hoists 50% each?

Did that change, or was I just confused from the start?

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #8 on: 06 January 2025, 16:45:41 »
Yes, 50%... that's what I get for posting in a hurry!  Thanks for the catch, and off to edit that bit... :)

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Re: Tracked Fusion Recovery Vehicles
« Reply #9 on: 06 January 2025, 17:23:29 »
Oh, phew!
And no problem.