Author Topic: Might Before Metal: Home of Clan Hell's Horses III (Read 88357 times)

tassa_kay · « **Reply #120 on:** 09 May 2018, 16:13:32 »

I need some assistance from the Herd. :)

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61455.0

Maelwys · « **Reply #121 on:** 11 May 2018, 23:29:00 »

So are people still using the Elemental II (or did they ever start?). It seems still viable in cities and leg attacks, but I was wondering if it got forgotten when the Buraq showed up...

truetanker · « **Reply #122 on:** 12 May 2018, 17:58:15 »

Oh I still use them... for when I need to BV sink something.

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Kojak · « **Reply #123 on:** 16 July 2018, 17:32:31 »

Fellow Herdsman, I could use some insight on something: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=37902.msg1429555#msg1429555

Kojak · « **Reply #124 on:** 26 July 2018, 02:51:05 »

I don't know why it's never occurred to me ask the community about this, but does anyone know what the officer situation is with Nova'd forces? For instance, in the platonic ideal of a Supernova Trinary (three 'Mech/BA Novas), is the structure:

Nova A
Nova Captain
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

Nova B
Nova Commander
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

Nova C
Nova Commander
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

Or, is it:

Nova A
Nova Captain
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Star Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

Nova B
Nova Commander
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Star Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

Nova C
Nova Commander
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Warrior
Star Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors
Point Commander+4 Warriors

JadedFalcon · « **Reply #125 on:** 26 July 2018, 21:44:03 »

I'm not a pony expert, but the old CJF phonebook only had a single command-grade officer for each Nova formation. However since there are so many Novas in the HH Touman, I wouldn't be surprised if they retained a second officer per Nova formation, to allow advancement opportunities. I'm probably not helping answer the question...

truetanker · « **Reply #126 on:** 28 July 2018, 13:50:10 »

I think it's more like Star Captain, then Nova Commander, then Star Commander followed by Point Commander.

So for your three Novas, ,Nova Captain command one, Nova Commander, another Nova Commander, where BA CO of each would be Star Commander, followed by four Point Commanders.

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Edit: Kojak is right.

Kojak · « **Reply #127 on:** 28 July 2018, 20:09:57 »

Nova Captains are definitely a thing.

Kojak · « **Reply #128 on:** 05 August 2018, 05:12:13 »

Just finished reading Shattered Fortress.

We got New Oslo back!

truetanker · « **Reply #129 on:** 06 August 2018, 15:55:27 »

And we got a few new toys to play around with!

Though we already knew about the Nova CEWS, we get some funsies added. Call them hints of easter eggs to come.

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Kojak · « **Reply #130 on:** 06 August 2018, 17:18:45 »

New toys? Also, we have Nova CEWS? Since when?

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #131 on:** 07 August 2018, 10:03:49 »

Are ultra heavy protos like the svartala (sp) still accorded the same 5 in a point rule?

wantec · « **Reply #132 on:** 07 August 2018, 11:23:18 »

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 07 August 2018, 10:03:49

Are ultra heavy protos like the svartala (sp) still accorded the same 5 in a point rule?

Yep. A point of 15 tonners gets you 75 tons of protos in a point

truetanker · « **Reply #133 on:** 07 August 2018, 17:43:22 »

Quote from: Kojak on 06 August 2018, 17:18:45

New toys? Also, we have Nova CEWS? Since when?

Just before the formation of Clan Stone Lion / CHH. While it was abandoned by the IS CHH after 3071. IF your playing CHH during the Reaving, you'd wouldn't use it, but if your from Zeta and just after the Reaving, most likely. UNTIL you become Stone Lion, then you can use them, but only in secondline and vehicles at best.

What I'm saying after the Reavings, CHH Zeta had less than 3 Clusters left, and any replacements would have come from captured equipment just like any other isola. Including the Society Nova CEWS, most likely the units are striped out @ 1.5 tons each and costing 1.100 Million C-Bills a pop! ( 1,100,00.00 ) Some might have been left in and not used, but the temptation to target... Well if the battlecams don't record it, or was lost / damaged... >:D

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Foxx Ital · « **Reply #134 on:** 07 August 2018, 19:15:39 »

So about the noyan :beatdown:

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #135 on:** 08 August 2018, 17:06:55 »

Quote from: Foxx Ital on 07 August 2018, 19:15:39

So about the noyan :beatdown:

;D

Guys you stopped Hooning around in the desert and took some Ghost Bear Worlds!

Speaking of hoonage what is up with your mech/tanks? They need wheels. You can only do rock and roll racing a little with treads.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #136 on:** 08 August 2018, 18:55:49 »

Horse's. You just made me waste hours of my day getting distracted by hoonage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPXW3MX4tio&index=18&list=PLPNsV8IPds6LcjWS1ytZv9xeTDgpbW30x

truetanker · « **Reply #137 on:** 09 August 2018, 10:49:01 »

Did you like it Kit? And is that your hoonage opinion?

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Kitsune413 · « **Reply #138 on:** 09 August 2018, 13:35:07 »

Quote from: truetanker on 09 August 2018, 10:49:01

Did you like it Kit? And is that your hoonage opinion?

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Haha. I always enjoy hoonage. We need to petition to get the Hells Horse's to trial by rock and roll racing.

Maelwys · « **Reply #139 on:** 09 August 2018, 17:35:30 »

Quote from: truetanker on 06 August 2018, 15:55:27

And we got a few new toys to play around with!

Though we already knew about the Nova CEWS, we get some funsies added. Call them hints of easter eggs to come.

TT

I'm curious about this statement. Can you explain more?

truetanker · « **Reply #140 on:** 11 August 2018, 06:55:26 »

Technically, by " new toys " I meant we get a factory world's products, New Oslo among others.

Though they are the same old toys, but now we get more to fill our ranks!

TT

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #141 on:** 19 September 2018, 13:31:34 »

If the then crusader horses agreed to support the jags against task force serpent what warship assets could they have sent on short notice?

truetanker · « **Reply #142 on:** 19 September 2018, 13:33:53 »

Straight up Alpha Galaxy's with Beta's in tow.... along with attached ground units of course!

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Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #143 on:** 19 September 2018, 13:36:22 »

Did the horses of this era have their spec ops teams already? Also was the gnome BA Only in the keshiks?

Kojak · « **Reply #144 on:** 19 September 2018, 14:08:27 »

In order:

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Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 19 September 2018, 13:31:34

If the then crusader horses agreed to support the jags against task force serpent what warship assets could they have sent on short notice?

It's highly unlikely the Horses would have intervened to save the Jaguars. But in any case, even if they had, I doubt Alpha Galaxy or their assets would have been involved, since they would have most likely been en route to the three-world enclave in the Wolf OZ they'd just been given.

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 19 September 2018, 13:36:22

Did the horses of this era have their spec ops teams already?

Almost certainly, since we know they were active in the fighting with the Ghost Bears in '63.

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 19 September 2018, 13:36:22

Also was the gnome BA Only in the keshiks?

Unlikely: it began deployment in '56, so by '60 it should have at least spread to Alpha Galaxy.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #145 on:** 21 September 2018, 07:07:32 »

Quote from: Kojak on 19 September 2018, 14:08:27

In order:

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It's highly unlikely the Horses would have intervened to save the Jaguars. But in any case, even if they had, I doubt Alpha Galaxy or their assets would have been involved, since they would have most likely been en route to the three-world enclave in the Wolf OZ they'd just been given.

I thought contract bid with the wolves was after the jags fall?

Almost certainly, since we know they were active in the fighting with the Ghost Bears in '63.

Unlikely: it began deployment in '56, so by '60 it should have at least spread to Alpha Galaxy.

tassa_kay · « **Reply #146 on:** 21 September 2018, 08:13:58 »

The Horses won/were given their trio of worlds in the Wolf OZ in 3060 per FM:U, but it doesn’t say if that happened before or after the conclusion of the destruction of the Jaguars. I’m inclined to think it happened after, because I’d think the Clans were collectively preoccupied with seeing how that shook out.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #147 on:** 21 September 2018, 08:46:16 »

Quote from: tassa_kay on 21 September 2018, 08:13:58

The Horses won/were given their trio of worlds in the Wolf OZ in 3060 per FM:U, but it doesn’t say if that happened before or after the conclusion of the destruction of the Jaguars. I’m inclined to think it happened after, because I’d think the Clans were collectively preoccupied with seeing how that shook out.

Same

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #148 on:** 02 October 2018, 20:09:13 »

Quote from: truetanker on 19 September 2018, 13:33:53

Straight up Alpha Galaxy's with Beta's in tow.... along with attached ground units of course!

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What type of naval support warships I mean could the horses have sent?

truetanker · « **Reply #149 on:** 02 October 2018, 20:33:32 »

Well the 'Red Pegasus' fleet, as it's called, comprises of a double Binary, Warships ( 10 ) and Jumpships ( 10 ) as well as an Assault Dropship Star ( 5 ).

So I think:

Red Knight
Gold Knight
Black Knight
Mount Olympus
and maybe the Blood Horse

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