Author Topic: The Scorpion Empire : Plus Ultra (Read 198989 times)

Weirdo · « **Reply #600 on:** 13 May 2018, 12:41:54 »

I'm currently painting up a Delta Galaxy star, and need ideas for a fifth mech. So far I've got a Kodiak, Highlander IIC, Marauder IIC, and a Galahad. I'm trying to build a lineholding unit, to stand up to the Clan assault during the abjurement. Any thoughts for a fifth?

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #601 on:** 13 May 2018, 13:19:04 »

Looks like a need for a missile boat, or something close. Maybe a Naga or Mad Cat II.

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #602 on:** 14 May 2018, 01:18:42 »

Kingfisher E/X. As Jaim Magnus mentioned the need for missiles, and you want a cheap Mech that can stand up to the odds during the Abjurement.

snewsom2997 · « **Reply #603 on:** 14 May 2018, 10:51:18 »

What about a Bombardier, for Missiles, or a Bowman? Considering where they are, tech tree wise, at maybe even and ARC-2R.

Could have gotten a Bombardier from the WOB storage Depot, maybe even brought some SL Heirlooms along.
Bowman was a HH design, imagine a few trials netted the scorps some.
Bog Standard Archers are all over the place, Original TRO3025 stated 100,000+ had been produced over the life of the design.

Weirdo · « **Reply #604 on:** 14 May 2018, 10:54:45 »

What's with all the missile boats? The Scorpions dislike missiles, preferring precise direct-fire weapons.

Also, don't forget that this force is for pre-Abjuration, so before the tech mix of the Imperio.

Gaiiten · « **Reply #605 on:** 14 May 2018, 11:12:10 »

Good old Warhammer IIC.

Weirdo · « **Reply #606 on:** 14 May 2018, 11:15:53 »

Warhammer IIC might work. Do we have access to any missile-less variants? The racks on mine were repurposed long ago for a MAD-9M2.

Falling that, I've also got a spare Dire Wolf sitting around...

Gaiiten · « **Reply #607 on:** 14 May 2018, 13:14:13 »

An excellent melee fighter is the Warhammer IIC 3 (2xLarge Heavy Lasers, 5xMed Pulse Lasers, Targetting Comp).

No missiles :)

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #608 on:** 15 May 2018, 03:29:25 »

The Scorps are more pragmatic than completely eschewing missile boats. Kingfisher E/X fits the bill with one missile rack augmented by beam weaponry

Boomer8 · « **Reply #609 on:** 15 May 2018, 12:29:32 »

Well, you just have to think about missiles as direct fire weapons. Isn't that why we have Artemis? To make missiles direct fire?

snewsom2997 · « **Reply #610 on:** 15 May 2018, 12:56:23 »

Quote from: Boomer8 on 15 May 2018, 12:29:32

Well, you just have to think about missiles as direct fire weapons. Isn't that why we have Artemis? To make missiles direct fire?

No that is what iATMs and Streaks.

Talpini · « **Reply #611 on:** 15 May 2018, 20:19:14 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 14 May 2018, 10:54:45

What's with all the missile boats? The Scorpions dislike missiles, preferring precise direct-fire weapons.

Also, don't forget that this force is for pre-Abjuration, so before the tech mix of the Imperio.

I think the Scorps anti-missile thing doesn't really apply to second line units, and can largely be ignored even given some of the frontline stuff the roll tables suggest they field. Their two mechs, the Commando IIC and the Fire Scorpion, both have missile boat variants, so they're clearly not manufacturing mechs they find too gauche to use.

Speaking of, stick a Fire Scorpion in there. They're not the best by any means, but if you want thematic, its the sort of way the Scorpions would ruin a perfectly good star. In fact, that should probably be your star commander...

Weirdo · « **Reply #612 on:** 15 May 2018, 20:30:38 »

On one hand, I already own a Dire Wolf and (most of) a Warhammer IIC. On the other hand, I absolutely love the Fire Scorpion mini, and would love an excuse to get a second one, especially if it means that it'll end up in badass Delta colors. On top of that, I dislike when my formations suffer from tonnage creep(yes, even assault groups), and using a second heavy would be a good way to keep the mass down.

I must ponder...

truetanker · « **Reply #613 on:** 15 May 2018, 20:51:49 »

What about the Horned Owl 3 and 5?

To round out your unit Weirdo?

TT

Weirdo · « **Reply #614 on:** 16 May 2018, 08:41:58 »

And? ??? I'm only looking for one mech, the other four slots are already filled and locked in.

Also, would a Horned Owl survive in the kind of high-intensity fighting that an assault Star would be called into?

truetanker · « **Reply #615 on:** 16 May 2018, 15:26:13 »

No no... either or Weirdo.

3 uses an ER PPC + TC combo and arm mounted 3 LMGs in twin MG Arrays.

While 5 is that CT HML and arm mounted ERLs.

Damage out to range and all, speedy enough to dictate where and when ambushes are to be taken.

TT

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #616 on:** 17 May 2018, 03:20:52 »

Cobras love air strikes. The Horned Owl will drop in a matter of seconds during the Abjuration.

I stand by the Kingfisher.

Gaiiten · « **Reply #617 on:** 26 May 2018, 11:25:57 »

Quote from: ArkRoyalRavager on 17 May 2018, 03:20:52

Cobras love air strikes. The Horned Owl will drop in a matter of seconds during the Abjuration.

I stand by the Kingfisher.

What about a Trial to decide? Might proves right ;)

ArkRoyalRavager · « **Reply #618 on:** 26 May 2018, 22:17:59 »

Normally I'd agree with you, but everyone, even the Vipers(to a lesser extent), went pragmatic during the WoR, and the endgame at Roche saw half the capital leveled by the Cobras, so they're unlikely to allow the Scorpions honor rules :-\

Weirdo · « **Reply #619 on:** 26 May 2018, 23:28:22 »

I wonder if any of that campaign saw any big underwater fights? Just imagine a mass deployment of Undines...

truetanker · « **Reply #620 on:** 27 May 2018, 16:00:58 »

Upgrades or standard Undines?

TT

Weirdo · « **Reply #621 on:** 27 May 2018, 17:26:31 »

Underwater? Standards. :)

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #622 on:** 01 June 2018, 22:47:19 »

Quote from: Deadborder on 09 March 2018, 17:49:30

My inner snark says Sun Spider

You snark(ed), but the Sun Spider'd be a solid choice if it were available in BT. Hell, the Prime's capable of a 78 damage alpha up to 12 hexes and frankly isn't too bad on tabletop.

AJC46 · « **Reply #623 on:** 02 July 2018, 16:56:38 »

remember the scorps took the last Nagas that were in clan space with them when they skipped town from clan homewords. so they likely still have a few of those somewere.

truetanker · « **Reply #624 on:** 02 July 2018, 20:07:52 »

Quote from: AJC46 on 02 July 2018, 16:56:38

remember the scorps took the last Nagas that were in clan space with them when they skipped town from clan homewords. so they likely still have a few of those somewere.

I think it's just one Naga, as in the very last one produced before the lines went full Septicemia.

TT

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #625 on:** 15 July 2018, 00:33:59 »

In a way, I find that kind of both a fitting end and a bittersweet end for such a machine.

Disliked by those for not being even capable of fighting 'in the Clan way', disliked for being exceptionally single-role, and being effectively cancelled for something far more versatile; Only for the last produced model to end up in a Clan that got cast off and nearly killed. There's just something poetic about that, that such a maligned thing would end up in the hands of people who are visibly clawing and preparing with whatever advanced gear they can get.

wantec · « **Reply #626 on:** 19 October 2018, 19:22:08 »

truetanker · « **Reply #627 on:** 19 October 2018, 22:35:53 »

Your little handy work wantec? Or a teaser of something I have to buy to keep up with...

TT

wantec · « **Reply #628 on:** 20 October 2018, 17:38:13 »

Quote from: truetanker on 19 October 2018, 22:35:53

Your little handy work wantec? Or a teaser of something I have to buy to keep up with...

TT

My handiwork was the inside, the cover was someone else. The recent post from Cubby said January release

pat_hdx · « **Reply #629 on:** 20 October 2018, 17:59:23 »

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My handiwork was the inside

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