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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1260 on: 07 March 2024, 21:29:08 »
Of them working together, that is a matter of politics. Of the capability, it is definitely there.

Having the potential to do something is not the same thing as doing it. By that logic, pretty much any faction can reverse-engineer just about anything if they really wanted to and the FWL is hardly a unique snowflake in that regard, but that's simply not how BattleTech works on a general level. And there is absolutely no evidence that exists to suggest that the FWL is producing Coronas in any way, shape or form.
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« Reply #1261 on: 07 March 2024, 22:39:00 »
 Like the original university, if the League can get interested entities to work through the university it will function well. This includes in reverse engineering Clan Tech.
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« Reply #1262 on: 08 March 2024, 06:25:58 »
As much as I love the Corona SRM, it feels like a real reach for the Scorchers to have any. I think I'll stick to Phalanx, maybe with a point of Kopis and Xiphos each. The Kopis anti-infantry variant looks pretty nasty.

Thanks for the advice!

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« Reply #1263 on: 08 March 2024, 08:01:24 »
As much as I love the Corona SRM, it feels like a real reach for the Scorchers to have any. I think I'll stick to Phalanx, maybe with a point of Kopis and Xiphos each. The Kopis anti-infantry variant looks pretty nasty.

Thanks for the advice!
It would not be a reach at all, the standard Corona is available to all Inner Sphere Clans, though the SRM version is Star Adder only. This means it is just a matter of if the Foxes or Wolves provided them to the unit in some form. Potentially even Nova Cat survivors.

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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1264 on: 08 March 2024, 10:50:00 »
Also, the Scorchers are an elite Spec Ops unit. If any group in the Protectorate is gonna have an excuse for non-standard Battlearmor, it'll be them. Especially since they can beg/borrow/Trial of Possession it. The MUL isnt the end all be all for unit assignment. They can hack a custom together if they really need to.

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« Reply #1265 on: 08 March 2024, 15:28:35 »

Corona is one of the classic Battle Armor designs, it's widespread among all Clans and is a staple product in Sea Fox (and others') catalogue

If Scorchers decide they need Coronas all they have to do is get the box of germanium ready, log on to chatterweb, place an order on Amazon IIC and wait 2-6 weeks for dropship to land


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« Reply #1266 on: 08 March 2024, 15:56:29 »
Corona is one of the classic Battle Armor designs, it's widespread among all Clans and is a staple product in Sea Fox (and others') catalogue

Literally none of this is accurate. It's not a "classic" design (it only hit production in 3060 and was only used by a few Clans at that time) and was never "widespread among all Clans", it doesn't appear on a single Clan's RATs in the Dark Age/ilClan era with the sole exception of the Scorpions (the RATs aren't the end-all-be-all, yes, but between them and the production facility listings, they're an excellent starting point), and it certainly isn't a "staple product" of the Foxes because they don't have the ability to produce them. No one does beyond the Star Adders and maybe the Cobras.

Do they exist in some form in the Inner Sphere? Of course they do. Do they exist in enough numbers that they're being sold by their owners to interested parties? Not very likely, given their rarity. Are they being produced by anyone outside of the Adders? Not that we've seen thus far. But like anything else, they can be salvaged or taken in a ToP, and there's room for a one-off sale here or there.

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« Reply #1267 on: 08 March 2024, 16:08:13 »

It's 1.5 ton century old armor not McKenna warship, it's getting made no problem

Behold:

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8613/corona-heavy-battle-armor-sqd5



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« Reply #1268 on: 08 March 2024, 16:20:51 »
It's 1.5 ton century old armor not McKenna warship, it's getting made no problem

Behold:

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8613/corona-heavy-battle-armor-sqd5

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« Reply #1269 on: 08 March 2024, 17:29:58 »
Being on the MUL doesn't mean they're being produced by the faction that uses them.

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« Reply #1270 on: 09 March 2024, 13:02:59 »
As much as I love the Corona SRM, it feels like a real reach for the Scorchers to have any. I think I'll stick to Phalanx, maybe with a point of Kopis and Xiphos each. The Kopis anti-infantry variant looks pretty nasty.

Thanks for the advice!

Also remember the Republic, who the Spirit Cats originate from along with Kara's pony enclave, had Grenadiers.  I THINK they had some figs of them in MWDA too.  So you can vary up your SRM BA flavors if that appeals, or ignore them for uniformity.
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« Reply #1271 on: 10 March 2024, 20:01:20 »
Also remember the Republic, who the Spirit Cats originate from along with Kara's pony enclave, had Grenadiers.  I THINK they had some figs of them in MWDA too.  So you can vary up your SRM BA flavors if that appeals, or ignore them for uniformity.

Grenadiers were never made into a clix piece, I just bought some IWM ones the other day because I didn't have any clix ones to convert.

The author of the Kara's Scorcher's article shared with me his ideal supernova layout of the unit. No Coronas present. Of course, it's not technically canon as it hasn't appeared in any published sources.
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1272 on: 11 March 2024, 08:10:18 »
...So what did they give as a layout then? Curious minds want to know. :D
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« Reply #1273 on: 11 March 2024, 09:15:48 »
Being on the MUL doesn't mean they're being produced by the faction that uses them.

It's too bad Corona is so rare in the IS.  The MPL in the prime variant makes a star of them one of the ultimate area denial units in the game. 
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« Reply #1274 on: 11 March 2024, 09:50:13 »
It's too bad Corona is so rare in the IS.  The MPL in the prime variant makes a star of them one of the ultimate area denial units in the game.
It would neither break the Commonwealth nor the League to have them as an addition. It would probably end up like the Quirinus on my bench, getting play but not every game (That is in games where BA is employed, especially scenario and campaign play). Combine players would love teaming them up with their suits.
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« Reply #1275 on: 12 March 2024, 06:15:34 »
...all they have to do is get the box of germanium ready, log on to chatterweb, place an order on Amazon IIC and wait 2-6 weeks for dropship to land

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« Reply #1276 on: 12 March 2024, 07:36:57 »
3150s are a great time to be alive.
It is too late, the Inner Sphere chassis has been augmented with Clan tech. Maybe not the Amazon specifically, but...

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« Reply #1277 on: 13 March 2024, 18:50:22 »
...So what did they give as a layout then? Curious minds want to know. :D
EDIT: Got permission. Just remember this isn't official canon, just headcanon of the author of that article.



Sariah Vozka's in the Centurion and Dyan Nova Cat was supposed to be in the Sarath B. I've agree to paint up the Supernova eventually once I get some other projects done.
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« Reply #1278 on: 13 March 2024, 18:58:07 »
... so where the hell is Kara Fletcher supposed to be? Don't tell me she's been relegated to duty off the field of combat. That's so sad.
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« Reply #1279 on: 13 March 2024, 19:53:20 »
... so where the hell is Kara Fletcher supposed to be? Don't tell me she's been relegated to duty off the field of combat. That's so sad.

She would be leading Spade Star as the Point one in the Rabid BA Point A. Since She's a Star Colonel she's in charge of the entire Supernova, and Spade Star rides Heart Star into battle.
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1280 on: 13 March 2024, 22:23:19 »
Where are the Ogres?
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« Reply #1281 on: 13 March 2024, 22:48:11 »
Where are the Ogres?
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Re: Clan Protectorate
« Reply #1282 on: 24 March 2024, 09:41:54 »
So on Thursday there was a recent interview with Randall Bills where he said he's still working on a Nova Cat/Spirit Cats novel...

I think we'll be seeing Kisho again soon.
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« Reply #1283 on: 24 March 2024, 10:35:29 »
So on Thursday there was a recent interview with Randall Bills where he said he's still working on a Nova Cat/Spirit Cats novel...

I think we'll be seeing Kisho again soon.

Good to know, wonder if it will lead to the Clan Protectorate becoming part of the new Star League and Clan Nova Cat being a recognised clan once again.

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« Reply #1284 on: 24 March 2024, 15:56:06 »
So on Thursday there was a recent interview with Randall Bills where he said he's still working on a Nova Cat/Spirit Cats novel...

I think we'll be seeing Kisho again soon.

It's great...  but I am also having flashbacks to exactly what it took to get the Founding of the Clans.

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« Reply #1285 on: 24 March 2024, 17:31:49 »
It's great...  but I am also having flashbacks to exactly what it took to get the Founding of the Clans.

Lol, I regularly posted on that . . .
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« Reply #1286 on: 18 May 2024, 20:56:23 »
I'd like to see the Clan Protectorate create a Clan-spec Firestarter in honor of their leader, Rikkard Nova Cat. Firestarter IIC. Crapton of Improved Jump Jets and Clan Flamers. Clan everything. And then make it Omni.

(Yes I know IS Omni Firestarters already exist, gimme a Clan version though).

Name it the Spirit Cat.
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« Reply #1287 on: 19 May 2024, 14:41:43 »
Clan Firestarter is essentially a Firestorm, isnt it? Not a Omni, but it's still built for incendiary warfare and thus murdering conventional force. Also it's based on a Nova Cat design even though the Wolves got it first.

Could always just custom an existing Omni into the role, too. No need to build a specifically fire based omni.

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« Reply #1288 on: 30 May 2024, 21:29:24 »
Made this to help clear up some confusion about Clan Nova Cat/Spirit Cat in the Dark Age/IlClan Era.

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« Reply #1289 on: 01 June 2024, 11:12:49 »
As Randle get's closer to wrapping up lose ends.  I wonder is the Spirit Cats are going to become fully Clan Spirit Cat, revert to Clan Nova Cat, or the two remain separate and the Marik aligned Spirit Cats just keep hanging out inside of the Clan Protectorate.