Author Topic: Favorite hauler for assault BA (Inner Sphere, Clan, and Comstar/WoB)?  (Read 2378 times)

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That sums up WoB equipment.
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Personally I like vtols for BA deployment, so I tend to use a Shun or a Cardinal. The Shun has 12 tons of infantry space, stealth armour, tag, and a pair of mag shots linked to a targeting computer. The Cardinal has 10 tons of infantry space, a lrm 5, an lbx 2 and a pair of ap gauss rifles.

I second this. I love VTOLs for deploying BA. They're insanely mobile and can generally have the BA in the mix within two-three turns. Hovercraft work well but I don't like navigating them at flanking speed: too many PSRs for my liking. I can get VTOLs up above the terrain and minimize the amounting of turning I have to do.

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Cannon : Hyro or Gibbons . MAXUM

Custom varient of Karnov .

They really didn't publish most cannon ones until the 3085 TRO so 3058-3084 you were kinda forced to design your own on whatever chassis that presented itself

Was a Thread in Fan Designs of a single suit support Ultra Light  VTOL or hover platforms that moved at I think 28/32;was the fastest.
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I like the Vargr (LRM) for Alpha Strike . IT 7, great armor, and IF1. A tad slow but tougher than most APCs.
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I like the Svantovit, the Bolla, the Badger, the Karnov, the Kirghiz, the Capellan Omnigfighter who has a similar configuration to the Kirghiz, the battle armor variant of the Maxim, and Mechs/Omnimechs to carry assault BAs. The Fronc Reaches variant of the Marshal is a great carrier for assault and heavy BAs with magclamps, as is the Black Hawk KU or the Men Shen. On the Clan side, just about any Omni will do, but if you slap a Ryoken or a Hellion with Corona suits are nasty.

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and Mechs/Omnimechs to carry assault BAs.
The Fronc Reaches variant of the Marshal is a great carrier for assault and heavy BAs with magclamps, as is the Black Hawk KU or the Men Shen.
On the Clan side, just about any Omni will do, but if you slap a Ryoken or a Hellion with Corona suits are nasty.
FYI, You can't carry Assault BA on Omni's, hence the topic.
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Ah it's been a while since I read the battle armor rules. My apologies.  The Taurian Maultier wouldn't be bad either, but you would have to break a squad apart since it only has 4 tons for transport. The Blizzard could work though, and it's cheap.

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Ah it's been a while since I read the battle armor rules. My apologies.  The Taurian Maultier wouldn't be bad either, but you would have to break a squad apart since it only has 4 tons for transport. The Blizzard could work though, and it's cheap.

Does Taurian Battle Armor operate in squads larger than 4?
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Checking the MUL, it looks like the Taurians use four-person squads.  But under advanced rules, you need an infantry bay that can carry the full mass of the squad, so a four-trooper squad of assault BA would need 8 tons.
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Checking the MUL, it looks like the Taurians use four-person squads.  But under advanced rules, you need an infantry bay that can carry the full mass of the squad, so a four-trooper squad of assault BA would need 8 tons.

Sounds like a rule to punish people using Heavy and Assault BA.
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We need more BA-specific haulers made canon.  Especially for the larger ones.

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Sounds like a rule to punish people using Heavy and Assault BA.

Well, it's an optional rule.
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That really isn't an issue for the Taurians, as they only have two assault class suits, the Marauder and bought/salvaged/captured Grenadier 1s.  The Marauders have magnetic clamps, and you'll have to use converted Planetlifters or split your squads up in multiple carriers. The latter would require some give on the rules since you usually take groups of BA, but I'd allow it.

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The Marauder is a heavy suit.  That's how it's able to mount mag clamps.
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Sounds like a rule to punish people using Heavy and Assault BA.

More like a Realistic Rule.

Foot/Motor/Jump all weigh different amounts & need different bays.

But for BA, we have 200-750-1T-1500-2T suits, but, they all count as 1-Ton each per Tourney Rules.

So as much as it might "punish" Hvy/Aslt suits to use full weights, it is also a bonus to PA/Light suits since they can now fit squads in 1T & 3T bays respectively.

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More like a Realistic Rule.

Foot/Motor/Jump all weigh different amounts & need different bays.

But for BA, we have 200-750-1T-1500-2T suits, but, they all count as 1-Ton each per Tourney Rules.

So as much as it might "punish" Hvy/Aslt suits to use full weights, it is also a bonus to PA/Light suits since they can now fit squads in 1T & 3T bays respectively.

Sorry, it still doesn't fly well because when a ConvInf Platoon gets reduced to 7 Members, they can't use 1T Cargo unless they used Squad Deployment.  Same goes if the ConvInf Platoon is just built smaller (like MML does for SRM ConvInf for some reason).
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What is the rule for just chucking BA into a flatbed truck?  We have the truck with 6 tons of cargo.  Does it have to specify that its infantry cargo versus normal cargo?  Are they not interchangeable since they weigh the same?

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I believe they used to have separate "fluff" in the TROs.
Some would say CARGO, while others called out INFANTRY BAY.

My understanding is that TW clarified it is "all the same" at the TW scale.

That said, Alpha Strike turns around & does separate them back out as CT & IT respectively.
Though they also have an "optional rule" that makes them interchangeable if both sides agree.

For simplicity sake I think anything should be equally usable as both.

If I want to stuff my grunts in the back of a pick up truck then I can, and if I want to load my Maxim full of TP Boxes, then I can do that too.
It's just easier for game play.
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Assuming the flatbed truck is good, I would use that to move BA around as a long distance hauler.  Is there rules for charging the BA?  Do they need special services between battles?  I know the mech maintenance rules penalize you if you are 'in the field' versus in a proper transport bay, but I dont know if battle armor makes maintenance rolls for components the same way mechs do.

Like, it makes sense that you would need to get them to the dedicated transport bay on something like a dropship to repair armor, but only if the little guys actually have to make rolls to do it.  If it just happens with no rolls, then they wouldnt need anything more then a truck with spare armor cargo to support them, unless there is range or charging concerns somewhere in rule form.

 

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