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MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« on: 17 May 2024, 02:15:26 »
I've been dabbling in a bit of fiction, part of which involves the MoC doing some quiet recon of suddenly abandoned Marion Hegemony worlds.

I'm a bit out of the loop on jumpships and dropships overall, but from some initial research a Scout class JumpShip seems a logical choice.

But I'm still debating what sort of dropship makes sense for a reconnaissance mission, up to and including dropping covert assets onto the surface for some aggressive intelligence gathering.  Suggestions?
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #1 on: 17 May 2024, 02:26:07 »
I'd vote for a Trojan, the secretly-armed version of the common Danais-class civilian cargo hauler. Carries a pair of shuttles and more than enough room in the cargo bay for your recon troops and their gear.
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #2 on: 17 May 2024, 05:03:55 »
I'd go with a Mule.  They're the most common type of dropship and it is a civilian ship.  It will just blend in with the crowd.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #3 on: 17 May 2024, 05:12:55 »
I second the Trojan particularly if you can increase the armament to discourage boarding craft and hostile dropships. Plenty of room to support a short term recon op and enough space to upgrade the sensor suites to get better data in the process.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #4 on: 17 May 2024, 16:47:33 »
If it helps, the Master Unit List website has a range of DropShips listed for the Magistracy in this time period under the "Aerospace" tab, and a range of JumpShips under the "Advanced Aerospace" tab.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #5 on: 17 May 2024, 18:10:58 »
Vengeance class refit "Danai Centrella".  Go big or go home.
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #6 on: 18 May 2024, 05:20:58 »
In the MoC Random Assignment Table from FM: 3085, what you see is a fairly conventional array of dropships from TRO: 3057. The designs that have been around and common for a long time. Seekers, Leopards, Triumphs, Intruders are found in the middle of the table. A lot of the TRO 3057 designs that have been around for hundreds of years are in there.

What jumps out is the dropship designs they obviously gained by virtue of their close association with the Capellans. The original Lung Wang would appear to be quite common given its placement on the RAT (at a 10 roll, suggesting it's actually a rather common MoC design in service). The upgraded 3055 Achilles, Kuan Ti, Overlord A3 and the Vengeance DC-PWS appear in the extreme high dice roll ends of the table.

In the 2-roll slot is the Dictator. I had to look that up. TRO: 3075 includes the Dictator and says that it was nearing extinction, with the few hulls left in poor shape, until the MoC suddenly began to have flotillas of new ones over the last 5 years. But from what source it doesn't say and from what I can tell that remains a mystery.

Echoing what others have said. If covert insertion is the goal you probably want something that looks pretty innocent. So ideas like the Mule and other "civilian" designs make sense to me. If we're talking about a small team of spies or something.

If you need a military design to transport more of a military force, the Seeker, Intruder and Lung Wang probably make the short list. Depends on what you are deploying. What size force, what types of assets.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #7 on: 19 May 2024, 02:33:42 »
Appreciate the feedback all.  Especially on where to find dropships.  I just sort of assumed they'd be under advanced aerospace for some reason.

The Trojan sounds like exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for.
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #8 on: 18 June 2024, 12:02:01 »
If it helps, the Master Unit List website has a range of DropShips listed for the Magistracy in this time period under the "Aerospace" tab, and a range of JumpShips under the "Advanced Aerospace" tab.

While the MUL lists the DroST IIa, they never list the IIb, the Small Craft carrier...

I can see both flying the MoC flag, especially if their assigned to an invasion corridor. One lands, dropping off the troopers and whatever is "stored" onboard, the other "supplying" aero support via its cargo of Small Craft. Add in an Avenger, you can then Dive Bomb using its bomb bay...

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #9 on: 05 July 2024, 17:11:27 »
The drost iib goes unmentioned because it is extinct. The text of the drost’s write up does not mention it surviving.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #10 on: 05 July 2024, 20:05:47 »
Well, it's extinct because, like everything, if you mention one in canon, their bound to be more than one left floating around.

It goes to show, what works in your table can work at another and so on.

Just because it was once mentioned, doesn't mean they are gone.

But oh well...

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #11 on: 05 July 2024, 20:26:11 »
Just because it was once mentioned, doesn't mean they are gone.

That’s actually exactly what it means. Extinct means they aren’t floating around. You can run it at home but canonically they’re not in use.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #12 on: 11 July 2024, 19:11:30 »
Aren't designs "Extinct" only until plot decides they're not?

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #13 on: 11 July 2024, 19:46:46 »
Correct. Currently plot has not decided that. Bank accounts are also empty until you put money in them. It doesn’t change their current state.

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« Reply #14 on: 11 July 2024, 20:17:59 »
Here's hoping the next batch of resurrections aren't like bank accounts and only back long enough for the bills to hit... :)
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #15 on: 11 July 2024, 22:26:12 »
this is my preference. having to track things that blip in and out constantly is a massive pain in the ass

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #16 on: 11 July 2024, 23:14:39 »
wouldn't the small craft Drost have been filling the operational role that carrier dropships do now? providing CAP for a fleet, or trans-atmospheric air support for ground operations.

i doubt there would be much call for them after the ASF became commonplace. but the regular Drost is a vehicle carrier and general cargo craft, which is always in demand.
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #17 on: 12 July 2024, 10:09:13 »
Hence CGL's preference as "Clones of" in the TRO...

Sad, it has to come as that.

But as Sartris said, if it isn't in use, it's "extinct".

I disagree, but it is what it is.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #18 on: 12 July 2024, 17:49:41 »
Correct. Currently plot has not decided that. Bank accounts are also empty until you put money in them. It doesn’t change their current state.

Cool. Thanks. :)
So officially, "None exist that we know of." Unofficially, they exist if we want them too.

Is there a reason someone couldn't have customized  IIa into something like a IIb?

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #19 on: 12 July 2024, 18:50:44 »
It would have to be documented to have its designation changed.

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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #20 on: 15 July 2024, 10:46:34 »
A DroST IIa clone.. with minor upgrades no one will be aware of.  It is small, non threatening but somewhat up gunned and could easy support a covert operation team.

Next up would be old beaten up Danais (Trojan) dropship.   Once more some upgrades that no one will be aware of until you need them.
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Re: MoC navy in 3080's... what Dropship(s)?
« Reply #21 on: 15 July 2024, 11:04:34 »
I didn't6 care if any returning DroSTs are upgraded or if they're identical to the sheets in Prim2. I just want IIBs back. :cool:
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