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My (miniatures) life in statistics
« on: 26 June 2021, 17:26:07 »
To which one might well say, "what life?" ;D

Short form, I do keep all my work and works tagged in a multi-worksheet Excel spreadsheet. I see others doing likewise, so thought I'd share the extent of my madness.

The heart of my mini planning is ... the Grand Plan.



So the idea is to have at least one unit per era per faction or grouping (yep, it's Smoke Jaguar, Jade Falcon, and "Clan-Other".) Coloured cells are complete, italic uncoloured are in progress or in collection, orange text means dependant on getting Wave 2 and making some hard decisions.

The other side of the Grand Plan is the Tracker:



So I can keep some eye on how I'm going, what eras/factions need some loving, etc. Which then means ...



Dashboard! (the frisson of fear that office workers will feel hearing that word is quite intentional ;) ) Does this tell you much other than I don't have a life, outside minis? But even I can't explain why I'm not so productive over Jan-Feb, but peak in March.

Behind all that, I keep worksheets of the units painted, and the one's I'm building. Here's the reason why I helped fan-fund the Raider mini:



Yes, I build exclusively in Alpha Strike formations, using MUL as a guideline for factional availability. It's fun, it imposes some structure on the build, and i can always find a way to justify slipping a mini in (like my Grand Dragon in the Andurien Rangers ...) The colours mean typically white = notional, yellow = must buy, grey would be "coming in KS", light green means "in a small box for use", darker green would indicats "in progress painting", and so on.

And then, because all of this (and infrequently updated inventories of minis yet to be painted), I can periodically do this:



So feel free to delve the depths of my hobby obsession, and post examples of how you're organising your ever-increasing hordes!

Cheers,

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Re: My (miniatures) life in statistics
« Reply #1 on: 26 June 2021, 18:21:58 »
Wow  :o

That's a lot of... stuff. I mean, i know you have a lot of minis, you've posted some pics of your collections, but so much plans and tracking behind that. Cool stuff.


Me, i just type my plans to .txt files. And my plans seem to be in flux always no matter what.

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« Reply #2 on: 26 June 2021, 20:36:08 »
You put my spreadsheet to shame.
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« Reply #3 on: 26 June 2021, 21:28:27 »
Show me what you're using 9 years from now ...
* No, FASA wasn't big on errata - ColBosch
* The Housebook series is from the 80's and is the foundation of Btech, the 80's heart wrapped in heavy metal that beats to this day - Sigma
* To sum it up: FASAnomics: By Cthulhu, for Cthulhu - Moonsword
* Because Battletech is a conspiracy by Habsburg & Bourbon pretenders - MadCapellan
* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #4 on: 27 June 2021, 18:30:03 »
And they say accountant-tech can't be fun...  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: 27 June 2021, 21:23:46 »
Very impressive WT!

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« Reply #6 on: 27 June 2021, 23:16:18 »
CanI askfolks to share thwir organisers? Doesn't matter how complex, or otherwise.
* No, FASA wasn't big on errata - ColBosch
* The Housebook series is from the 80's and is the foundation of Btech, the 80's heart wrapped in heavy metal that beats to this day - Sigma
* To sum it up: FASAnomics: By Cthulhu, for Cthulhu - Moonsword
* Because Battletech is a conspiracy by Habsburg & Bourbon pretenders - MadCapellan
* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #8 on: 28 June 2021, 01:54:22 »
Got some good big plans there, Kerfuffin! Nice to see the ambitions. And that Tyr cluster on Sheet 3 - nice!
* No, FASA wasn't big on errata - ColBosch
* The Housebook series is from the 80's and is the foundation of Btech, the 80's heart wrapped in heavy metal that beats to this day - Sigma
* To sum it up: FASAnomics: By Cthulhu, for Cthulhu - Moonsword
* Because Battletech is a conspiracy by Habsburg & Bourbon pretenders - MadCapellan
* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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Re: My (miniatures) life in statistics
« Reply #9 on: 28 June 2021, 04:39:50 »
So, question: How do you choose which units to paint? And how do you choose 'Mechs (and vehicles etc.) for those?

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« Reply #10 on: 28 June 2021, 05:01:32 »
Okay, so it basically comes down to the paintscheme.

The Grand Plan has holes. So that tends to indicate the direction/faction. I needed to do a Late Republic era League unit, to 'complete the set'. Hence to CamoSpecs! Many League schemes I'd done - Marik Militia, Oriente, Regulans, Orloff. And most Andurien schemes are, agreed, unpaintable by such as me. Yes, I could do Legionnaires, Guard, Knights, etc - but the units didn't appeal. And then I hit the Andurien Rangers - I can do white and green trim, thanks to the liberation of Contrast Paints! Sometimes though, it's just the scheme that looks do-able. No scales, flowers, stars etc - too fussy for me! No shading. But then I saw Neo-Tanuki's excellent-looking Mongrel in Steel Viper Rho colours, and suddenly that's on the to-do list. Steiner Strikers was a mixture of looked distinctive, within my grasp, and filled a hole in the Grand Plan. Seriously, browse the new CSO site - there's tons of new schemes, and many are quite feasible for ordinary folks.

So now the era & faction are sorted out, I look at my minis, and cross-reference with the MUL. I'm in an interesting place - waiting on the KS minis, and wanting to not mix older Alpha Strike plastics & similar sized metals with KS minis. I'm just about out - one lead Panther is about it. But there are some metals which are entirely suitable for use with LS plastics - the Templar, Thanatos, Hollander, Nightstar, Enfield ... rather a Davionista feel? And I have good-ish (if dwindling) stocks of DA plastic vehicles, BA, and infantry. So some paintscheme digging, and in this case word from a friend, and I found the Dawn Guard, and it's perfect for soaking up plastic Sorteks and Partisan AAs and DI Multipurpose VTOLS - even lets me slip some RotS gear in (Simians, Centaurs) just for git & shiggles.

Short form: it helps to have stocks, and the MUL is a joy.

However, stocks and DA plastics sometimes just won't cut it. I've got a Gyrfalcon trinary in metal, all the 'totem' Jade Falcon designs, plus Hels and Grand Summoners. Being non-CONUS, I planned a USD$250 purchase for over a year, finally dumping money to get the Raider fan-funded, and got a lot of metal shipped. Also got minis to bulk up a Hastati Sentinels battalion, vehicles for the MacIntyre House Guards, and some others. Planned, targetted purchasing - having the goals makes this work more efficiently.

The other thing is I don't necessarily want to do the same mini often. (Says the man with 18 Catapults ...) But they were common across several generations of minis. So I tend to get minis I like the look of (no Wyverns, ever! Not a cent for Hussars!), and if I get duplicates it'll often be modded to another config.

And then you discover the mini you really want to use/buy wasn't available in the era you intended ... throw it back, keep it for later, change the era? And sometimes you just go with it - my Late Republic Andurien are rocking a Grand Dragon. Heirloom, inheritance, salvage, or a Pesht Regular who took a wrong turn at Alberquerque? Who cares! :D

So looking in the MUL for that faction/era, knowing what you have, building up a list of wants ... Keeping an eye on ePay for lucky dip (scored 4 resculpted Omnis in one hit recently, 7 Ral Partha leads in another), and saving for the next big purchase (USD$250 is AU$400), tweaking here, polishing there ...

Hope that makes some sense.
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* The Housebook series is from the 80's and is the foundation of Btech, the 80's heart wrapped in heavy metal that beats to this day - Sigma
* To sum it up: FASAnomics: By Cthulhu, for Cthulhu - Moonsword
* Because Battletech is a conspiracy by Habsburg & Bourbon pretenders - MadCapellan
* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #11 on: 28 June 2021, 17:39:37 »
Makes very much sense. A bit more comprehensive answer than i expected!

But there are some metals which are entirely suitable for use with LS plastics - the Templar, Thanatos, Hollander, Nightstar, Enfield ... rather a Davionista feel?
I think the Templar doesn't fit with AS plastics or older metallic. At least when comparing to the KS Clan 'Mechs, the Templar feels more in scale with those, the Gargoyle being a good comparison (with some issues such as too long gun barrels). But i suppose mods can sort that out.


Currently pondering third CapCon company paint scheme (others will be House Hiritsu and a Capellan Hussars company, probably Red Lancers). I liked your 2nd St. Ives Lancers, and i'm inclined to do the same, would also fit my units nature very well. But i worry i'll be doing too much green, have the Star League unit to be done, House Hiritsu (though that is very different) and possibly a FDF vehicle camo.
My second choice would be the Blackwind Lancers, but i worry their scheme is too close to the Alliance Guards, though overall lighter.

Unit roster for this third company (essentially also shows how i organize my plans, above these lines would be company name and color scheme):
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Battle lance:
Blackjack Medium BJ-3
Helios Heavy HEL-3D
Blackjack Omni Medium BJ2-O
Avatar Heavy AV1-O

Assault lance:
Sunder Assault SD1-O
Victor Assault VTR-9D/9K
Pillager Assault PLG-3Z
Catapult Heavy CPLT-C4C?

Cavalry/pursuit lance:
Firestarter Light FS9-S/S1
Cossack Light C-SK1
Black Hawk-KU Heavy BHKU-O
Vindicator Medium VND-1SIC

Kinda inclined to ditch the Vindicator though, it is too slow and the St. Ives Compact doesn't have a faster variant. If i manage to strip paint from a Dervish, it would be a better fit, especially after i found that FMCC RATs imply the Dervish -7D is found among the St. Ives forces.

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« Reply #12 on: 28 June 2021, 22:22:02 »
Got some good big plans there, Kerfuffin! Nice to see the ambitions. And that Tyr cluster on Sheet 3 - nice!

Thanks. Your battalion level units along with the older call of war things inspired me to have units like that.

I plan on subtracting minis as the eras get earlier than current/dark ages. Luckily the KS makes that easier to do, with the DA updates to them all. I had to do a fair amount of looking to find units that are consistently around throughout time. Only exception is the Rasalhauge Galaxy. I was worried about my painting skill and budget so wanted to double up on my two favorite factions, Ghost Bears and Lyrans. Turns out I have fallen in love with the Cappies.  :o

I do the majority of my unit building/planning in the alpha strike builder and just draw numbers on the mech cards to equate to a lance or Star. I’ll probably add that info in later on in separate pages like with the Ghost Bears, although I have been waiting for the reg guide series to finish before I solidify them.

I don’t have much of a purchasing plan, as my Capellans as planned are something around 14 companies. It would make me sad to see the money expenditure. Plus my painting is very slow and haphazard so it makes not having some new pieces easier to swallow when I have so many unpainted.
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« Reply #13 on: 29 June 2021, 06:25:24 »
Epic!
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« Reply #14 on: 29 June 2021, 08:16:51 »
WOW!  :o

Way more intensive than mine.
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« Reply #15 on: 29 June 2021, 10:29:06 »
Man, organization around these parts is intense!

Myself, I've only got KS minis since I'm fresh into the hobby.  Plan is to round out my 4th Guards to a full battalion with Wave 2 of the KS.  Lyran Guards and Sword of Light up to a full company or a company plus a command lance.  I'll use the Clan salvage boxes (getting 7 or 8 more) with the Clan Star I have coming to upgrade both CW and CSJ to a full trinary each.  Lastly, I'll do at least a lance or two of Marik Militia and another lance or two of CCAF First Victoria Rangers.  So that will last me at least a year or two of painting. 

I still have roughly 15 mechs from Wave 1 I haven't painted yet because I wanted to see what salvage brought me before deciding what faction to stick them in. 

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« Reply #16 on: 29 June 2021, 13:41:34 »
Unit roster for this third company (essentially also shows how i organize my plans, above these lines would be company name and color scheme):

The Battle and Assault lances are solid, but not quite sure on the Cavalry lance.

Now it's all about the minis you have/can afford/can finangle, but I tend to look at movement, intended use, and whether the units work together. For Cavalry, yes, the Vindie (as much as I love them) is out, unless you want to take one of the newer 5/8/5 models. And having the Cossack (a tinfoil light) and the Blackhawk-Ku in the same lance seems to jar - either the Ku will be lagging behind the faster guys, or the Cossack's going to wither and die by itself (as opposed to withering and dying with friends ;) )

So thoughts: depending on the variants you pick, could the Cavalry lance become a Command lance? You need 50% Sniper, Missile Boat, Skirmisher, or Juggernaut, plus one Brawler, Striker, or Scout. You've got the Vindicator, definite brawler, Firestarter as scout, Cossack as striker, so it'd just be a case of finding a Ku config to meet the first set of requirements.  There's a nice Ku - the A - with an ERPPC in each arm which screams sniper to me, or the C with Gauss and one ML; or the missile boat D, which has an LRM-20 and ERLL. The A can be simply modded by putting a muzzle over each arm front, covering the ML holes, if that's important, and the C or D are not that much harder.

And when extending to a full combined-arms battalion (  :D ), you then complement the strengths of the 'Mechs, with platoons of scouts, strikers, and fire support. Depending on the era, a platoon of Regulators is sure to please, particularly if you Keystone Kops a platoon of Fa Shih on them :)
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* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #17 on: 29 June 2021, 14:09:15 »
The Battle and Assault lances are solid, but not quite sure on the Cavalry lance.

Now it's all about the minis you have/can afford/can finangle, but I tend to look at movement, intended use, and whether the units work together. For Cavalry, yes, the Vindie (as much as I love them) is out, unless you want to take one of the newer 5/8/5 models. And having the Cossack (a tinfoil light) and the Blackhawk-Ku in the same lance seems to jar - either the Ku will be lagging behind the faster guys, or the Cossack's going to wither and die by itself (as opposed to withering and dying with friends ;) )

Thanks for the feedback!

Off-hand, i think i basically made the last lance from whatever appropriate i had lying around.
I had ordered a Cossack because it was in my original plan, and probably was meant to be in a lance with Duan Gung, Anubis, 'Mechs like that. Or if not specifically those, it was with other St. Ives appropriate fast 'Mechs.
This reminds me, i need to craft an ushanka for the Cossack.

Tossed a Dervish along with other test 'Mechs into a pine oil-based cleaning stuff (not unlike Pine Sol apparently). We'll see in a few days if it strips the paint. If yes, i'll be able to replace the Vindicator with the Dervish.
For plastics, i have a couple of Panthers and Jenners, a Flea, a Spider and an Assassin. But i don't care for the first two outside Rasalhague/Kurita armies. The other three... well, i just don't particularly like any of them. This is why all these are relegated for paint scheme testing.
Also have a Raptor but that's basically unknown beyond the Draconis Combine, and a Strider sans one arm, which became a missile launcher for a Hunchback variant.

Functionally, yeah, the Cossack is not a good fit. Erhmm hmm, what can i say, the times are tough for the St. Ives Compact, and gotta support local industry.

So thoughts: depending on the variants you pick, could the Cavalry lance become a Command lance? You need 50% Sniper, Missile Boat, Skirmisher, or Juggernaut, plus one Brawler, Striker, or Scout. You've got the Vindicator, definite brawler, Firestarter as scout, Cossack as striker, so it'd just be a case of finding a Ku config to meet the first set of requirements.  There's a nice Ku - the A - with an ERPPC in each arm which screams sniper to me, or the C with Gauss and one ML; or the missile boat D, which has an LRM-20 and ERLL. The A can be simply modded by putting a muzzle over each arm front, covering the ML holes, if that's important, and the C or D are not that much harder.
Didn't actually occur to me it could be a Command lance. I'm pretty sure i didn't really follow Alpha Strike formation rules, though i do look at inspiration from them occasionally. I tend to group by speed and weight class, and name lance based on those. Though for some reason both of my other CapCon units have "Command Lances", i cannot recall when or why i named those. Must because of weight class mixing rather than specific classifications.
Guess it couldn't hurt to look at my options though.
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« Reply #18 on: 16 January 2025, 01:04:54 »
Necromancering a bit, I was truly delighted to see someone else's spreadsheet madness. Mine's just a tracker and nowhere near a planner with a serious intent :tongue: It started innocently, like so many other cases, as a single and simple list of the mini and its number, because I just wanted to keep them unique.

This would all be so much simpler had I just gone for a normalized db from the beginning. But here we are :cheesy:

Generic dashboard/tracker for the overall collection:

There's something off in the factions because there should be 5 Kell Hounds (the four from the 25th Anniversary box, now it just counts Morgan's Archer). Thanks for rubberducking! And yes, I have been optimistic and marked most if not all of the Mercs KS items in my tracker already.


I am most interested in keeping track of the progress on my attempt at the 9th Falcon Talon Cluster, so it has its own sheet with more fine-grained tracking and weight-watching. This accepts only the finished minis, the assigned but incomplete ones don't matter here:
Clan Jade Falcon
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« Reply #19 on: 16 January 2025, 03:00:22 »
I have 50 mechs from the first wave (money was tight to justify the second wave woithout finishing the first, even if I wanted some extra mechs AND vehicles), so it is way easier than yours. I have them in just a WORD document:

ARAN GUARD/LOTHIAN GUARD (12). DONE
Archer
Archer (use a mad dog clan mech. Periphery FTW)
Rifleman
Commando 1D

Griffin 1N
Wolverine 6M
Cronus 3M (use shadown hawk)
Wasp 1A

Marauder
Warhammer
Commando 1B (heavily modified Urbanmech)
Locust 1V




AN TING LEGION. Dark blue DONE except the Stinger LAMs


Dragon 1N
Wolverine 6R
Panther ALAG
Panther ALAG

Jenner 7D
Jenner 7D
Spider 5V
Locust 1V

Stinger LAM
Stinger LAM


CRUCIS LANCERS. DONE
Wolverine 6R
Griffin 1N
Phoenix Hawk
Valkyrie



TAURIAN/LIAO WANNABEES DONE. Green red. Scheme matches Taurian Lancers, Liao Dragoons, Marshals of Tikonov. TO DO
Catapult 1C
Thunderbolt 5S
Marauder
Stinger




LYRAN / CIRCINUS. Blue + grey  (12) TO DO
Cyclops
Banshee 3S
Battlemaster
Thunderbolt (using a clamn  mech)

Archer
Marauder (using a clan mech)
Blackjack
Centurion 9A

Griffin 1N
Wolfhound
Wolfhound
Commando 1B


MAL'S BROWNCOATS. TO DO. Tan Red. Scheme to match Punic Legio, and warrior house kamata or the taurian guards
Blackjack (Mal)
Thunderbolt 5S (Jayne)
Wolerine 6R (Zoe)
Nightsky (Using a hatchetman miniature, River)


SAFFRON'S REAVERS. TO DO Tan red. Compatible scheme with Mal's Browncoats in case I need to use them together.
Grasshopper
Catapult 1C
Wolverine 6R
Shadow Hawk 2H


ARMS OF THOR. TO DO
Awesome 8Q
Awesome 8Q
Battlemaster 1G
Thug 10E



As you can see, a lot of stuff to paint yet. The lasdt time I tried with Malcolm's Borwncoats, but I did not like the result, stripped them, and was sidetracked by lord of the rings, 5 parsecs from home and historical medieval miniatures. So, a long trip to completion.
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« Reply #20 on: 16 January 2025, 03:50:08 »
Great looking work, ISD & Elmoth!

The main difference I'm seeing is I keep the conversion notes in the unit build, then print out that sheet while I'm building it.

Waiting until KS2 hits Down Under before I update the stats again!
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* To sum it up: FASAnomics: By Cthulhu, for Cthulhu - Moonsword
* Because Battletech is a conspiracy by Habsburg & Bourbon pretenders - MadCapellan
* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #21 on: 16 January 2025, 05:36:09 »
I'll show the mini tracker sheet with colour codings and whatnot, just because you mentioned the conversions:


There's much too much manual updating and repetition in some columns to my liking, but this is loads better than the previous iteration. I have no real plan on what to do with the semicolon-separated equipment, but it's there if I want to do something with that.
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