BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat
BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Fan Financing 2.0 => Topic started by: speck on 02 February 2015, 21:26:10
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This is the Funding thread for Armored Personnel Carriers (Tracked, Wheeled, Hover) TRO 3039 and it needs $1000.00 to be Funded. This is for all three of the APC's, the tracked, wheeled, and hover versions.
This has been Funded.
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I am definitely in to fund this.
I'll pledge $150 to help make this happen.
I'd love to do more, but con season is around the corner, and I need to re-check the budget first.
I can pledge up to $200, which should cover what is needed to cap this off.
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I will be able to be more specific around the 15th, but about $150-200. Will update this when I know 100%.
I can do $200, however I do not have an active paypal account.
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In for 200.
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I'm in for $100
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Best I can do is $50-$75
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Please be specific on the amount you can pledge, when in doubt go low.
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Well seeing that the prim rifleman is getting done. The vehicles are getting $50
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$100 thanks.
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$20 is what I can promise
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I can add 30$.
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Please be specific on the amount you can pledge, when in doubt go low.
Yep. That's exactly what I did. I'm hoping I can push it upwards in a day or so, but I wanted to stay safe at the beginning.
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$50.
Thanks.
Mike
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$50 from me to these as well.
Heavyguard
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WOW! That's pretty impressive, if my math is right I think you guys have your $1000 already!
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If I am counting the posts right, I think the "conservative" options places us at $900, with $25 extra in "maybe" money.
Nope! I think you're right, wraith. The money is there!
(I think I missed the change in Mike19k's pledge, taking us up to 950-975, 1000 with my slight bump.)
At this stage, I think I can kick in the last bit to take us over. I'll update my main post, rather than adding it here. *Hopefully* that will avoid confusion.
I don't mind coordinating the payment, since it doesn't look like too many people are involved, and I do have a PayPal account, but I am also happy to defer to somebody else.
I have wanted these things, like, forever. 8)
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Having a few extra people pledge won't be a bad thing, some might have trouble transferring the money. Or if we had a real excess, I think that some of us would be willing to shift our share to the riflemen.
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Well, this thing is on 1050 $ right now. :)
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I can be lead contact if necessary. I organized the Bandersnatch group funding during Fan Finance 1.0.
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Thanks for volunteering Cache! O0
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Ok...so how many of each mini do you guys get for fan-funding it?
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None.
You get store credit in the amount you put into the project.
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None.
You get store credit in the amount you put into the project.
Heh...good to hear. So if you don't like the end result, you can purchase some other items instead.
Excellent call.
Has it always been that way?
Can you pick the sculptor?
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There are two sticky threads at the top of this board detailing the Fan Funding 2.0.
For the time being the sculptor for all fan funded items will be Behrle (b-3 on here).
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No you can't pick the sculptor. You're stuck with me for the time being. :D
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Awesome!
Now we just need to help Cache gather up the money so we can get Behrle sculpting. >:D
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I can be lead contact if necessary. I organized the Bandersnatch group funding during Fan Finance 1.0.
So we send the money to you or an account you set up, right?
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Wow, that got funded fast! Go Behrle!
I'll try to jump on the next one.
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Behrle Hubbuch has been one of, if not the main BT sculptor for many, many years, now for IWM, before that for Ral Partha.
Look, I don't usually self-arbitrate any threads on here, but there is a rule and a discussion thread right here in this sub-forum. Let's get with the FF sculpts in question, shall we? ;)
Behrle, the one question I have is - can we get you to go really small, tiny and cute with these? And to channel as much of Aliens as possible for the wheeled APC and as steampunk-ey as all heck for the tracked one? O:-)
Sure, 21mm long is the dimension I'm starting with. The wheeled APC was definitely inspired by the one in Aliens. The other two idano, I'll generate some orthos and let you see what I have in mind ASAP.
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Wow, that got funded fast! Go Behrle!
I'll try to jump on the next one.
Super fast! Go!
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Alright folks, I have to communicate with B-3 first to make sure I fully understand the PayPal portion of this. Once I hear back from him I will send PM's to each of you with my info and announce in this thread that I have done so. I ask that from this point forward please keep all replies to this thread to a minimum, and on the topic of the APC funding. The only members who need to be posting are those who have pledged, are doing the sculpting, or are running Fan Financing. I have a day job and work long hours so I would like to make this as easy for myself as possible. Financiers, please be patient with me. I will do my level best to reply to any questions once per day, after work. Thank you!
This is what I have down for financiers and funds:
$200 klarg1
$200 ]mike19k
$200 jymset
$100 Cache
$ 50 TS_Hawk
$100 Fletch
$ 20 beachhead1985
$ 30 Maingunnery
$ 50 The Wayfarer
$ 50 Heavyguard
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PM's sent to all APC financiers with PayPal info.
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Behrle, the one question I have is - can we get you to go really small, tiny and cute with these? And to channel as much of Aliens as possible for the wheeled APC and as steampunk-ey as all heck for the tracked one? O:-)
I have to confess, I was king of hoping this would come out a little oversized for 10-ton vehicles, so they'd look like 7 guys would fit inside. (Normally, I'd be right there with you on the tiny size.)
The notion of 28 troopers cramming into the old Maxim model is a little... improbable.
Oh well. I'm sure I'll be happy with the result.
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I have sent Cache my pledged amount.
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I sent Cache my amount earlier today. I think it is kind of cool that we are caching money with a bloke called Cache. O0
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I have to confess, I was king of hoping this would come out a little oversized for 10-ton vehicles, so they'd look like 7 guys would fit inside. (Normally, I'd be right there with you on the tiny size.)
The notion of 28 troopers cramming into the old Maxim model is a little... improbable.
Oh well. I'm sure I'll be happy with the result.
Give up your scale ideas my friend, it is the only way to harmony
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Give up your scale ideas my friend, it is the only way to harmony
A man can dream. ::)
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A man can dream. ::)
...but but but... if the Wheeled APC wants to stay true to its Aliens roots, it cannot possibly be in scale with a trooper :))
;)
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I'd like to see them between a Savannah Master and Blizzard. Probably a little closer to the Savannah Master. I'll use them for Mechanized Infantry and want to fit two on a base.
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Give me dimensions and I'll get going.
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Give me dimensions and I'll get going.
I don't have the miniatures handy to measure, but I think cache is suggesting something around 18-20mm in length, while I am suggesting more like 25-27.
I'll try to actually measure some existing minis and post better numbers by tomorrow, if nobody beats me to it.
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I'll go ahead with drawings, I can easily re-size them when dimensions are agreed on. If anyone wants to contribute drawings they will help speed this process.
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Paid.
And forget scale B-3. make em a bit smaller than the heavy APCs so we can get at least a Platoon's worth (4) in a pack. otherwise they'll be almost as big as a manticore.
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I will get the pledge out with my check next friday
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I don't have the miniatures handy to measure, but I think cache is suggesting something around 18-20mm in length, while I am suggesting more like 25-27.
One thing to remember is that once the money is paid to B-3, this is going to the QCC where they will decide on the dimensions. I'm posting my opinion with as much data as I can to justify it. Whether or not they listen is up to them.
That being said...
The 5 ton Savannah Master is 7mm wide x 12mm long.
The 20 ton Blizzard (with 6 tons of cargo space for up to 56 troopers) is 15mm wide x 25mm long without the spoiler.
I think 25-27mm long is way out of the ballpark. I don't think we should be looking to set a new scale standard with these. They should fit with existing vehicles. If the largest Maxim infantry variant (crew + 81 troopers) were sized properly it would be almost the size of the Leviathan warship. That just doesn't work.
You don't need to add a lot of size just to get 7 troopers on board. Take the real-world M1117 Guardian for example: It's listed at 3 crew and 1 passenger with an APC variant having 3 crew and 8 troopers. The standard length (according to the wikipedia) is 237 inches and the APC variant adds 24 inches to the length for the addition of 7 troops. That's only a 10% increase. The percentage size increase for larger numbers of troopers grows considerably.
I'm suggesting the wheeled and tracked APCs should be 12mm wide x 16mm long and the hover APC should be 13mm wide x 16mm long. Also, B-3, I have high resolution images of each of the APCs taken out of TRO: 3039 that I can email to you. They're too big to post.
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Funds received from: klarg1, jymset, Cache, Fletch, and beachhead1985
Received replies from: mike19k and TS_Hawk
No response yet from: Maingunnery, The Wayfarer and Heavyguard
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That being said...
The 5 ton Savannah Master is 7mm wide x 12mm long.
The 20 ton Blizzard (with 6 tons of cargo space for up to 56 troopers) is 15mm wide x 25mm long without the spoiler.
Sounds like I guessed high on the size of a savannah master, although I was basing it on your earlier suggestion that the end result come out between it and the blizzard.
I'd agree that 25 is too high based on that, although B-3's original guess of 20 or 21 might be in line with modern sculpts. (Width will depend on B-3's interpretation of the proportions suggested by the art.)
I'll wait and see how the QC thread comes out.
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Payment has been sent!
Heavyguard
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Funds received from: klarg1, jymset, Cache, Fletch, beachhead1985, The Wayfarer and Heavyguard
Payment in-route from: mike19k
Received replies from: TS_Hawk
No response yet from: Maingunnery
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Just back from a business trip. Payment has been sent!
Maingunnery
I'm suggesting the wheeled and tracked APCs should be 12mm wide x 16mm long and the hover APC should be 13mm wide x 16mm long.
Good suggestion.
ps. The wheeled variant has appeared in MW3. Soon I will have the minis to properly re-enact the game....
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Funds received from: klarg1, jymset, Cache, Fletch, beachhead1985, The Wayfarer, Heavyguard and Maingunnery
Payment in-route from: mike19k
Received replies from: TS_Hawk
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Funds received from: klarg1, jymset, Cache, Fletch, beachhead1985, The Wayfarer, Heavyguard and Maingunnery
Payment in-route from: mike19k
Received replies from: TS_Hawk
no change
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One thing to remember is that once the money is paid to B-3, this is going to the QCC where they will decide on the dimensions. I'm posting my opinion with as much data as I can to justify it. Whether or not they listen is up to them.
That being said...
The 5 ton Savannah Master is 7mm wide x 12mm long.
The 20 ton Blizzard (with 6 tons of cargo space for up to 56 troopers) is 15mm wide x 25mm long without the spoiler.
I think 25-27mm long is way out of the ballpark. I don't think we should be looking to set a new scale standard with these. They should fit with existing vehicles. If the largest Maxim infantry variant (crew + 81 troopers) were sized properly it would be almost the size of the Leviathan warship. That just doesn't work.
You don't need to add a lot of size just to get 7 troopers on board. Take the real-world M1117 Guardian for example: It's listed at 3 crew and 1 passenger with an APC variant having 3 crew and 8 troopers. The standard length (according to the wikipedia) is 237 inches and the APC variant adds 24 inches to the length for the addition of 7 troops. That's only a 10% increase. The percentage size increase for larger numbers of troopers grows considerably.
I'm suggesting the wheeled and tracked APCs should be 12mm wide x 16mm long and the hover APC should be 13mm wide x 16mm long. Also, B-3, I have high resolution images of each of the APCs taken out of TRO: 3039 that I can email to you. They're too big to post.
Sounds like wheeled and tracked APCs 12mm wide x 16mm long and the hover APC 13mm wide x 16mm long are good size(s) for these three. I think I have the book that has these in it but thanks for the offer. If I can get any more art and/or screen shots from MW3 of these it will really help solidify the designs.
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I'd just like to say that I've been wanting an APC model myself. ^^;
ps. The wheeled variant has appeared in MW3. Soon I will have the minis to properly re-enact the game....
Good luck :)
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Funds received from: klarg1, jymset, Cache, Fletch, beachhead1985, The Wayfarer, Heavyguard, Maingunnery, and mike19k
In contact with: TS_Hawk
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Cache money sent sir
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Typical. I get cash in hand, and the minis I would fund are funded. I feel like Magnum did I that episode where he won the trip for four to Hawaii.
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Somebody activate the Sculptor Signal!
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Typical. I get cash in hand, and the minis I would fund are funded. I feel like Magnum did I that episode where he won the trip for four to Hawaii.
Hahahaha...man Jal, you saying it and me getting this reference just shows how old we are doesn't it?
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Those who do not know Magnum live in a world of darkness.
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All funds received today. Full amount transferred to B-3 on the 11th. Financier info PM'd to speck today. Awaiting verification from both.
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In case I haven't said it, which I probably haven't, thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
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In case I haven't said it, which I probably haven't, thank you for doing this, gentlemen.
Agreed...and especially for Cache for being the guy to handle the transactions & following up with people!
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I want to say I'm glad to help contribute even though it wasn't a lot but I am grateful for being a part of this and this community
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Somebody activate the Sculptor Signal!
(http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2012/08/eso_vlt_laser.jpg)
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Funding received! Sculpting commencing after completion of Kodiak II sculpt on Wednesday. :D
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The Kodiak was one of my favorite MWDA sculpts.
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Funding received! Sculpting commencing after completion of Kodiak II sculpt on Wednesday. :D
There's sculptor confirmation and speck has PM'd that he will have the credit vouchers sent out soon.
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There's sculptor confirmation and speck has PM'd that he will have the credit vouchers sent out soon.
Thank you for your efforts and your professionalism, Cache.
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Funding received! Sculpting commencing after completion of Kodiak II sculpt on Wednesday. :D
Shazam! I like that one too!
We're coming along on the Rifleman as well, just waiting out on one guy.
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There's sculptor confirmation and speck has PM'd that he will have the credit vouchers sent out soon.
Just a FYI that I sent all of the vouchers out to the list that Cache sent me.
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Thank you for your efforts and your professionalism, Cache.
Second the motion; from where I sit everything has been smooth and without issue.
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Just a FYI that I sent all of the vouchers out to the list that Cache sent me.
Everyone has reported receiving their vouchers. Looks like everything is wrapped up except the sculpting of the mini and spending of the vouchers. Both are out of my hands. Thanks all for your prompt communications. It was a pleasure.
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Ortho, I think the 11mm wide option looks closer to the original art. Any comments?
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Tr3026-hover-apc.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Tr3026-hover-apc.jpg.html)
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While I'm not part of the founding, I agree with the 11 mmm option, it looks better. I have a question regarding the back area, in the picture it seems that it becomes wide and that the grill panel is angled in a 60ยบ from the main body line and the back is as wide as the cushion. Is this correct or a perspective mishap?
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I prefer the 11mm option, too.
Is there any way of fitting a 2nd (rotary) MG into the turret, as per stats? The second one may be obscured by the way the turret is oriented in the illustration.
Looking great, Behrle!
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I also think that 11mm would look better.
However I am a bit concerned about the air-intakes on the sides of the center body, I see them on the original and the side perspective, but they are missing on the top view.
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I also think that 11mm would look better.
However I am a bit concerned about the air-intakes on the sides of the center body, I see them on the original and the side perspective, but they are missing on the top view.
Orthos are generally used in the QCC process foe just getting the general shape and size of the mini established. The aren't meant to be detail complete but rather provide a guide to be used when scaling and sizing the mini. Have no fear, B-3 is excellent at getting all the details.
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11 it is! Thanks Stinger. ;)
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Ortho, I think the 11mm wide option looks closer to the original art. Any comments?
I'm cool with 11mm as well.
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11mm looks pretty good to me
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I think the 11mm looks better as well; not a fan of equally square vehicles myself.
Could we do a dual MG turret though as suggested above? Not sure that would show up that well at this size...but could it work?
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Dual gun barrels in the turret no problem.
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If anyone wants to help with orthos, your efforts will be MUCH appreciated. I need a place to start not alotta details.
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Ortho, I think the 9mm wide one works best with the proportions of the original art.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Tr3026-tracked-apc.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Tr3026-tracked-apc.jpg.html)
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I agree 9mm is the best view.
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Agree with 9 mm, though at that width, the tracks should probably be narrower. Also, the snout could probably be lower-slung, and vertically thinner. The angle of its top glacis should correspondingly probably be more severe and as a result, the whole body of the vehicle somewhat lower.
That said, the ortho is looking fantastic and this is exactly why I pledged my contribution. {>{>
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Just chiming in.
I agree w/ 11MM & 9MM options that most suggested.
Also agreed w/ 2nd MG for the Hover, it appears your looking at the turret in profile/at angle & so you only see the 1 MG in 3026.
At least that is how I'd always figured it.
Finally, I 2nd the suggestion that these be 4 to a pack.
They are smaller & should easily fit & it just makes sense to have a "Platoon" of infantry sized package.
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I'm torn between the 10mm and 9mm versions mainly because at that size the difference will hardly be noticeable. Assuming minimal shrinkage through the master to production mold process, either is fine for me.
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I'm torn between the 10mm and 9mm versions mainly because at that size the difference will hardly be noticeable. Assuming minimal shrinkage through the master to production mold process, either is fine for me.
Shrinkage is 1-dimensional, and as such, this thing will be losing height, not width. Keep that in mind.
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Shrinkage is 1-dimensional, and as such, this thing will be losing height, not width. Keep that in mind.
Seems like the Beginner Set/Lance Pack minis shrunk all around, not just along the mold lines. Those were near completely metal masters.
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Hover at 11mm and Tracked at 9mm look the best options to me. Excitement building!
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Hull dropped 10%, front track wheel moved forward a bit.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Tracked%20APC%20side%20view%2090%20height.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Tracked%20APC%20side%20view%2090%20height.jpg.html)
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Seems like the Beginner Set/Lance Pack minis shrunk all around, not just along the mold lines. Those were near completely metal masters.
I noticed that as well. Always wanted to ask Mike about it when I was out at the factory but forget when I am there. Usually distracted by looking for stuff.
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Ortho, I rendered the top view on this one without measuring width just doing what I thought looked right. It ended up 16mm long and 5mm wide. I tried it @ 12mm but it looked stupid. 7.5 looks okay but I prefer 5mm.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Wheeled%20APC%20j.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Wheeled%20APC%20j.jpg.html)
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I prefer the 7.5 mm one, the 5mm just looks too narrow, maybe a compromise?
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I'm okay with 7.5mm but no wider.
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6.5?
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Wheeled%20APC%206.5mm%20wide_1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Wheeled%20APC%206.5mm%20wide_1.jpg.html)
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5 is way too narrow. 7.5 is a little too wide. 6.5 looks pretty good. I definitely wouldn't go any narrower than that.
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6.5 does look much better
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6.5 it is! O0
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6.5mm for sure !
Question.
Why are the turrets off center?
And on the wheeled one, why does it appear to be over a side door?
That just doesn't seem like how the internals would be laid out.
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Question.
Why are the turrets off center?
And on the wheeled one, why does it appear to be over a side door?
That just doesn't seem like how the internals would be laid out.
I would guess that has a lot to do with IRL the sub-components of the turret that are in the body.
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Talking about doors, will all the APCs have them on both sides? They are a bit ambiguous now.
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The APC in Aliens had a sliding door on only one side and a driver door on the other and the turret was on a track and moved around the hull and had no internals. The Hover will have a big hatch/ramp on the back. It looked to me that the guns on the turrets or the whole turret were off to one side on the tracked and wheeled APC's, just my interpretation of the art. No waitaminit I have it! It's so they can depress the guns lower on that side to better cover the troops as they are coming and going. :D
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Wow B-3! these look great!
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Wow B-3! these look great!
Thanks!
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Loose's art took a lot of liberty with physics. For example, how does a wheeled vehicle whose front wheels clearly have no wheel wells make turns? Trying to translate some of that stuff into three dimensions must be a challenge. I'm really liking what I see so far, and look forward to the finished product on my painting desk.
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I figured the rear wheels turned.
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Loose's art took a lot of liberty with physics. For example, how does a wheeled vehicle whose front wheels clearly have no wheel wells make turns? Trying to translate some of that stuff into three dimensions must be a challenge. I'm really liking what I see so far, and look forward to the finished product on my painting desk.
They are really more towards the center of the vehicle w/ room behind the armor panel?
Yeah that its !
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I figured the rear wheels turned.
Yeah, I suppose rear-wheel steering is a possibility.
I like the compromise size at 6.5mm.
Man, I missed a lot in this thread.
On the one hand, I regret dropping out for a while and not keeping up with the updates.
On the other hand, I agree with all of the decisions made so far. ;D
I do still kinda wish they could be slightly larger. (Forgetting how other Battletech minis scale, at a "generic" 6mm scale, the wheeled version is now only about 7 scale feet wide.) I know I'm in the minority though. :-X
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I would gladly make them larger. Sculpting these this small might cause dain bramamge. :D
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I would gladly make them larger. Sculpting these this small might cause dain bramamge. :D
Well at least you aren't working in micron scale....... yet....... >:D
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Sculpting these this small might cause dain bramamge. :D
It's a risk we're willing to take. 8)
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I would gladly make them larger. Sculpting these this small might cause dain bramamge. :D
Do you sculpt in Green Stuff? I wasn't sure whether you worked "traditional" or with CAD.
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I would gladly make them larger. Sculpting these this small might cause dain bramamge. :D
I hear Tom Meier uses a microscope... 8)
Scaled up slightly, but with the same proportions, the wheeled transport might be about 7.3x18, but seriously, the current designs look really solid.
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I hand sculpt in brass, plastic, brown putty, whatever gets the job done. I use a jeweler's visor with an x5 lens......for now...
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Hi guys, this is my first contact with the fan financing of BT miniatures.
How does this work? Is it like kickstarter? The guys that "pledged" get the figures / money they spent as credit and then the mass production run begins? When can I as a non-pledger get my hands on the miniature? Can you say this in a general way? Is there an overview of what figures I could support or of the figures that were fan-financed during the last months? I read something about a Black Knight with a sword somewhere but lost the link. Is this the only place where figures are "kickstarted"? I only saw 1 kickstarter entry by IronWindMetals concerning some Comstar LAMs.
Thanks in advance for answering these dozens of questions :D
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Here you go Franky, see the fan finance guidelines thread (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/fan-finance-2-0-guidelines/) O0
If you have any further questions, post them in the fan finance questions thread (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/fin-finance-2-0-questions/)
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Thnx!
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thsoe wheeled APCs are gonna look so nice as my mechanized infantry transports...
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Ready to mold. That's a quarter it's resting on.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/APC%20Tracked%20PHOTO.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/APC%20Tracked%20PHOTO.jpg.html)
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I don't suppose you own a Savannah Master to compare it to, do you?
The shape looks great.
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I don't suppose you own a Savannah Master to compare it to, do you?
The shape looks great.
No, sorry. Glad you like the shape.
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Wow, looks great. Excitement building.
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Considering you can put a quarter in the middle of a hex base. Then you can fit 2 on a base. Looks good and you you managed to get more detail than I thought might be possible at that size. Great work!
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That Tracked APC is exactly what I was hoping for.
Thank you so much, Behrle. O0
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Sounds good guys thanks! :)
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Looks excellent! I am looking forward to the wheeled and hover versions.
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Wheeled APC! :D
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Wheeled%20APC%20sculpt.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Wheeled%20APC%20sculpt.jpg.html)
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I see the stealth armour is not activated :D
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This does mean that TPTB must release a Stealth variant...... please.... ;)
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Sure, 21mm long is the dimension I'm starting with. The wheeled APC was definitely inspired by the one in Aliens. The other two idano, I'll generate some orthos and let you see what I have in mind ASAP.
The closer to the M577 APC from Aliens, the more of my money you guys will take.
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Wheeled APC! :D
We apologise for this interruption to your service and any inconvenience caused. We are working to restore your services as soon as possible. May the Peace of Blake be with you . . . - Demi-Precentor XIII-Rho Joseph Bloggs, Comstar >:D
Edit - fixed Comstar rank
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I like it. Will get several of those when they get them cast and in production.
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I'm eliminating the notch in the back of the hull at the skirt mainly due to the fact that it will be a tear out point in the molds. It won't affect the overall look too much.
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Done!
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Hover%20top.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Hover%20top.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Hover%20left.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Hover%20left.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Hover%20R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Hover%20R.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Hover%20RF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Hover%20RF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Hover%20LF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Hover%20LF.jpg.html)
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All 3 together. :D
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/APC%202.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/APC%202.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/APC%201.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/APC%201.jpg.html)
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They really came out well. O0
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Beautiful! Can't wait to get these in metal. (It's difficult to tell for sure, but I think there's two MGs in the hover's turret, right?)
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Thanks! Yep two MG's in the turret. Also just for kicks I added a thin strip of material to the bottom of the Hover to give it a "hovering" effect.
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B-3, are there any pictures of Variant Bits?
8)
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Variant bits?! :P
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B-3, are there any pictures of Variant Bits?
8)
LRM5 here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4699
SRM2 here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4628
Quad MG here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4638
(Yeah... the archive bit hurts a little.)
;)
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LRM5 here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4699
SRM2 here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4628
Quad MG here: http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=4638
(Yeah... the archive bit hurts a little.)
;)
I think that B-3 can create better quality. And we won't have to deal with the extra junk. ;)
This had made me hopeful:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/1st-quarter-2015-fan-finance-poll/msg1025425/#msg1025425
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All 3 together. :D
Finally, after all these years I can sense the great void is about to be filled. Thanks you so much!
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Awesome Sauce! O0 O0
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Feenix, I feel some orders heading your way when these come up ;)
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No problems, happy to be of service (as always). I am sure we should be able to get a decent sized order together with Fletch, especially if they get released at roughly the same time as the primitive Rifleman.
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I have to say that these look much cooler than I expected. I help fund it because that we did not have them, but now seeing them I may have to get a bunch of them.
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I would like to say that 3026 was the first BattleTech book I ever actually bought (though I had been tangentially been involved before that) and since I became an infantryman much later in life, these three AFVs have always had a very special place in my heart and mind. So I heartily thank everyone who has been involved in this process; the models look exactly like what I have been looking for all these years.
I would also like to mention one additional tidbit:
Loose's art took a lot of liberty with physics. For example, how does a wheeled vehicle whose front wheels clearly have no wheel wells make turns?
This is actually a bit of a misconception; many real-world wheeled vehicles (and some fabulous military ones) can make turns without actually turning the wheels, such as the French AMX-10RC (and a prettier AFV you won't likely find, other than if it had four axles, perhaps):
(http://img.xooimage.com/files41/1/0/d/10rc_01_894-1fec47b.jpg)
They use skid-steering, which is essentially how tracked vehicles turn (short version: they stop one side's wheels and continue moving the other side's to accomplish the turn).
Anyways, thanks to all who were involved at every level; I only wish I'd gotten here earlier to be involved somehow. Hopefully, given their finished dimensions, they will be priced in accordance with similar microarmor kit allowing them to be procured in numbers commensurate with their usage in-universe... ;D
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;D
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I would also like to mention one additional tidbit:
This is actually a bit of a misconception; many real-world wheeled vehicles (and some fabulous military ones) can make turns without actually turning the wheels, such as the French AMX-10RC (and a prettier AFV you won't likely find, other than if it had four axles, perhaps):
They use skid-steering, which is essentially how tracked vehicles turn (short version: they stop one side's wheels and continue moving the other side's to accomplish the turn).
intriguing. I never knew such a thing existed. Kind of cool, actually. Thanks for the enlightenment! :) Now, if you can explain the Typhoon's front end (SRMs, headlights...), I'll give you double credit!
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Masters delivered! The next Mech can go into the funding cycle! Sculpting of the Rifleman has begun! :D
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Great job B-3! Can wait to get some and field them! Thanks for doing this and keeping us here in the loop along the way!
Heavyguard
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Great job B-3! Can wait to get some and field them! Thanks for doing this and keeping us here in the loop along the way!
Heavyguard
what he said
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Masters delivered! The next Mech can go into the funding cycle! Sculpting of the Rifleman has begun! :D
Woooo!
Now we just need IWM to find a slot in the molding and casting schedule.
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wow, great job B-3!
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Tanks Fellas! :D
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AP-pre-C-iate your hardwork on these B-3 ^-^
Really looking forward to seeing the master sculpts for the primitive Rifleman and when funded the primitive Griffin. O0
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Iamclanwolf is revamping my orthos for the Rifleman I think just the legs and feet AND he's doing Griffin orthos for me. I have started the Rifleman torso. :D
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AP-pre-C-iate your hardwork on these B-3 ^-^
I'm torn between "Well Played! O0" and "Groan! [metalhealth]".
;D
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I'm torn between "Well Played! O0" and "Groan! [metalhealth]".
;D
Your just upset because he thought of it before you did :P
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can't wait to buy these
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Seeing those...I must admit I have turned to other companies for my mechanized units...but no more.
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Seeing those...I must admit I have turned to other companies for my mechanized units...but no more.
O0
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Now the real question, does anyone know when we can buy them? I need at least a company of each.
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Will these be available at Gencon/origins?
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Will these be available at Gencon/origins?
Not Origins, GenCon I am hoping some of the pending web only stuff is out. First the new LE and 2nd quarter releases need to get through the mold room.
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So if they are available at Gencon will they also be available to order then? For those of us who can not make it to Gencon?
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Not Origins, GenCon I am hoping some of the pending web only stuff is out. First the new LE and 2nd quarter releases need to get through the mold room.
If they are available in GenCon, then I will predict that they will sell out. ;)
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So if they are available at Gencon will they also be available to order then? For those of us who can not make it to Gencon?
They are not a con special so as soon as molds are done and Mike give me the green light I will put them up on the web store.
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been holding off on my vouchers for some of the stuff. Looking forward to hearing when they get released
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Just a FYI, these will make there debut at Origins and then up on the webstore after the show.
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Happy to see these coming out earlier than expected! O0
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Awesome!
I'll be sure to put in an order when they appear.
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All 3 look quality! I especially want some of the wheeled variety!
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I wish there was some updated pics of these. I can't wait to see them and get them.
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Hover - Wheeled - Tracked APCs Rommel/Patton for scale. All them them cost a dollar or less per model :D
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Hover - Wheeled - Tracked APCs Rommel/Patton for scale. All them them cost less than a dollar per model :D
Aaaa so cute....
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Those are great ! O0
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Way smaller than 1/6th the size of the Rommel, as I feared, but beautifully sculpted.
Overall, a win. O0
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You could probably fit 6 of any of those on the Rommel hull.
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You could probably fit 6 of any of those on the Rommel hull.
And probably 3 more into the turret. ;)
Seriously, ignore me. They look good, and I will adjust.
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Hover - Wheeled - Tracked APCs Rommel/Patton for scale. All them them cost less than a dollar per model :D
Awesome I really can't wait to get a few of those.
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Locking this thread since the APC has been released.