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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #180 on: 01 August 2020, 11:19:58 »
One shirt: $25.

Shipping to Germany: $45.

Crazy. Absolutely crazy.   :-[
On the bright side of things, you'll have bragging rights as one of the few people in Germany who has one. :thumbsup:

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #181 on: 01 August 2020, 11:21:48 »
On the bright side of things, you'll have bragging rights as one of the few people in Germany who has one. :thumbsup:

I organized a large bulk order for a lot of people last year. There are quite a few around.
We ordered shirts, hoodies, maps and some more stuff for around 1k ;)
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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #182 on: 01 August 2020, 11:40:33 »
I'd have to reread the section to see if it fits, but the Cave Lion from Era Digest Dark Age is 75 tons, 5/8 XL engine, and 4x MPLs. Also it'd need new owners. The Sea Foxes helped upgrade Nova Cat factories in exchange for some of the production run.
Given the description in "Divided We Fall" as old Steel Viper design and the armament of Large Pulse Lasers it cries for Black Python / Viper.

Would be a logical choice to revive a dezgra design in renaming it. Snow Ravens could be done this, IIRC they do produce the Vapor Eagle (Goshawk).
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« Reply #183 on: 01 August 2020, 11:54:31 »
I'd have to reread the section to see if it fits, but the Cave Lion from Era Digest Dark Age is 75 tons, 5/8 XL engine, and 4x MPLs. Also it'd need new owners. The Sea Foxes helped upgrade Nova Cat factories in exchange for some of the production run.

Do not get me wrong, I would love for the Clan Protectorate to start fielding a Ferro-Lam Cave Lion . . . or even just the Sphinx.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #184 on: 01 August 2020, 12:30:07 »
Having looked at the TRO again, I'm really happy that the Pulverizer is still active, and with the Ravens, too.  I've liked it since it first came out.

It's also nice to have a list of official early-Clan refits.

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« Reply #185 on: 01 August 2020, 13:15:08 »
That reminds me. I have been meaning to point you towards the Minsk 2 for your urban renewal Star.

That's the one with the mortar, right? Very cool, just gotta figure out how to fit it into a faction I play. Maybe as Falcon isorla?

It's also nice to have a list of official early-Clan refits.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #186 on: 01 August 2020, 14:45:15 »
You know, I rather like the Molniya-class WarShip. I’d personally prefer some things be a little different, but overall, I rather like it.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #187 on: 01 August 2020, 18:35:50 »
So nice to see new and updated aerospace...I want minis of those ships and fighters.
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« Reply #188 on: 01 August 2020, 19:20:10 »
You know, I rather like the Molniya-class WarShip. I’d personally prefer some things be a little different, but overall, I rather like it.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #189 on: 01 August 2020, 20:05:41 »
I am really proud of the team on TRO:GC. A lot of effort was put in to make units that could conceivably be obsolete yet still be viable in the modern era.
For example with the Omnifighters you can see a tech progression from the Issedone to the Avar as they go from Omni but inferior to regular ASF, to superior. Yet the survivors in 3150 are still viable. Well done guys.

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« Reply #190 on: 01 August 2020, 20:58:27 »
I am really proud of the team on TRO:GC. A lot of effort was put in to make units that could conceivably be obsolete yet still be viable in the modern era.
For example with the Omnifighters you can see a tech progression from the Issedone to the Avar as they go from Omni but inferior to regular ASF, to superior. Yet the survivors in 3150 are still viable. Well done guys.

My thing on the fighters were how many of them had single heat sinks.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #191 on: 01 August 2020, 21:01:52 »
Its  was an interesting needle for the writers to thread and I appreciate  how well they did on improving on the SLDF designs without outclassing the invasion era omnis.

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« Reply #192 on: 01 August 2020, 21:05:50 »
My thing on the fighters were how many of them had single heat sinks.

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I think that's a plausible enough technical hurdle that they could have not quite overcome on the first few models.

Though it would have been nice if that was explicitly stated as such in the text.
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« Reply #193 on: 01 August 2020, 21:13:01 »
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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #194 on: 01 August 2020, 22:00:37 »
My thing on the fighters were how many of them had single heat sinks.

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There isn't enough Clantech with single heat sinks.

Clantech as a whole is vulnerable to XL/Endo/FF/DHS solutions. It was nice to work on a project where that was specifically avoided.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #195 on: 02 August 2020, 04:29:47 »
What are people's thoughts on the Minsk 2 (or the Slowerki, as I've taken to calling it)?


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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #196 on: 02 August 2020, 05:22:16 »
On the bright side of things, you'll have bragging rights as one of the few people in Germany who has one. :thumbsup:

But I bailed out.  :(

Shipping a t-shirt from Germany to worldwide (with DHL) would cost 9€. That's $10.60! Plus packaging and handling, let it be $15. He**, even $20 would be acceptable. But $45?

CGL does everything to discourage non-US customers to buy their (non digital) goods. The business must be really good that they don't want these additional customers.
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« Reply #197 on: 02 August 2020, 06:57:12 »
But I bailed out.  :(

Shipping a t-shirt from Germany to worldwide (with DHL) would cost 9€. That's $10.60! Plus packaging and handling, let it be $15. He**, even $20 would be acceptable. But $45?

CGL does everything to discourage non-US customers to buy their (non digital) goods. The business must be really good that they don't want these additional customers.
Alas, as has been said before, CGL have very little, if any, say over the shipping costs.  It's a perpetual issue but the US-based distribution centre is the one that doesn't seem to care.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #198 on: 02 August 2020, 08:24:35 »
They would need make partner overseas so European fans won't have to eat the fees.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #199 on: 02 August 2020, 11:23:10 »
Alas, as has been said before, CGL have very little, if any, say over the shipping costs.  It's a perpetual issue but the US-based distribution centre is the one that doesn't seem to care.

While this has been said several times, I cease to accept that CGL can do nothing about it. In this case CGL is the customer and should have leverage with the distribution center.

Paying twice as much of the actual product price for shipping is ridiculous. Paying 50% of the product price for shipping of the Puzzle/Poster bundle was steep, but this has reached new levels

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« Reply #200 on: 02 August 2020, 12:38:45 »
What are people's thoughts on the Minsk 2 (or the Slowerki, as I've taken to calling it)?

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #201 on: 02 August 2020, 13:18:35 »
What are people's thoughts on the Minsk 2 (or the Slowerki, as I've taken to calling it)?

My thoughts on the Minsk are simple enough.

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« Reply #202 on: 02 August 2020, 14:12:11 »
While this has been said several times, I cease to accept that CGL can do nothing about it. In this case CGL is the customer and should have leverage with the distribution center.

IIRC a short while ago Ray wrote somewhere here in the forums, that the DC doesn't offer/use the cheapest possible shipping method.

Personally i'd rather wait some weeks more for *not* expedited shipping for reduced costs.
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« Reply #203 on: 02 August 2020, 14:34:32 »
IIRC a short while ago Ray wrote somewhere here in the forums, that the DC doesn't offer/use the cheapest possible shipping method.

Personally i'd rather wait some weeks more for *not* expedited shipping for reduced costs.

I would not expect that to change in any number of weeks.
The distributor doesn't offer/use the cheapest possible shipping method, AND seems to have resisted any attempt to get them to do so.  I don't know if the distributor has some shipping agreement in place already that prevents them from doing so, or doesn't want to offer cheaper shipping because they are concerned they will be responsbile for more shipping errors, or what.  But I don't see it changing any time soon, it's been this way for years already without changing.
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« Reply #204 on: 02 August 2020, 15:36:45 »
Doing work at a shipping counter, all I can say internationally shipping rates can be weird for various stupid reasons. Shipping from Germany to the US via DHL is very different than shipping from US to Germany via UPS or FedEx (DHL still has a presence in the US but they lost allot of footing during the recession) Amazon built it's own shipping fleet just so they can have more control over their own shipping rates.     
     
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« Reply #205 on: 02 August 2020, 15:40:11 »
While this has been said several times, I cease to accept that CGL can do nothing about it. In this case CGL is the customer and should have leverage with the distribution center.

You're a customer too. How much leverage do you feel you have?

Catalyst is not a large company, and I doubt any shipping concerns are quaking in their boots at the thought of losing Catalyst as a client.
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« Reply #206 on: 02 August 2020, 17:23:48 »
You're a customer too. How much leverage do you feel you have?

Catalyst is not a large company, and I doubt any shipping concerns are quaking in their boots at the thought of losing Catalyst as a client.

I work for a distribution center.  While the big 3 customers get the most attention, heads still roll if we lose one of the smaller ones.  And even our small customers can fine us if we screw up.  Being a small fry doesn't mean they don't want CGL's business.  Of course, if they don't want their business then CGL is better going elsewhere.   I guess the real question is, is there an elsewhere?
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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #207 on: 03 August 2020, 02:53:57 »
Doing work at a shipping counter, all I can say internationally shipping rates can be weird for various stupid reasons. Shipping from Germany to the US via DHL is very different than shipping from US to Germany via UPS or FedEx (DHL still has a presence in the US but they lost allot of footing during the recession) Amazon built it's own shipping fleet just so they can have more control over their own shipping rates.     
   

a random one-person online shop or etsy or whatever is able to do 10 dollar shipping to Europe from the US, so I don't think your argument holds.

In any case, I don't understand why people don't want Catalyst to do something about it, it's just a question of will. Right now the shipping costs are a complete scam and actively deters all non-US customers from buying anything. It's simply a bad state of affairs that need to be corrected. 

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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #208 on: 03 August 2020, 05:09:31 »
So Honor's Gauntlet was slated for a July release and it is now August 1st...
icons of war and rock of the republic were due in june. there's been a delay on the fiction end all summer

This is why I'd like them to go back to just Surprising us with new releases.   ::)


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Re: Upcoming Releases XVII: Licensed to IlClan
« Reply #209 on: 03 August 2020, 07:34:15 »
This is why I'd like them to go back to just Surprising us with new releases.   ::)


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