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Title: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 17 March 2020, 08:30:20
And the 2020 league year kicks off with signings (https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/28878948/top-100-nfl-free-agents-2020-ranking-best-players-market)! And Brady saying goodbye (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28915341/tom-brady-says-goodbye-patriots-social-media) to New England! And Houston being stupid (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28911663/deandre-hopkins-trade-grade-texans-flunked-cardinals-got-elite-receiver)!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 17 March 2020, 10:32:09
Darth Bill has been trying to move on from Brady for a while now so it isn't surprising that he finally got his way.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 March 2020, 12:21:42
The end of The Evil Empire.   xp

The only question is what does Brady have left? His drop-off last season wasn't solely the Deflatriots giving him nothing to work with.

Can't wait to see the Bills win the AFC East.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 17 March 2020, 12:27:14
Is he not retiring?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 17 March 2020, 12:35:31
Brady has been phrasing things in a way to indicate he'll still be at the very least involved with football a bit longer.

I do tend to think it'd be best if he moved to some sort of off field role but there are teams that'd snap him up.  A couple that I'd even rate Brady as a downgrade versus what they have now.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 17 March 2020, 12:45:10
Brady current comments have been screwy much like his Hulu ad from the Superbowl?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: cavingjan on 17 March 2020, 14:43:25
Signing Brady to work with your future QB isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 17 March 2020, 15:16:33
They are reporting Rivers to the Colts and Brady to Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 17 March 2020, 15:27:50
Reports are Tom Brady will make an official announcement about moving on to the Bucs tomorrow.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 March 2020, 18:13:22
Apropos title, I wondering the same.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 March 2020, 12:49:26
Not many starting gigs left for Winston, Flacco and Newton. Someone's gonna lose out there.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 19 March 2020, 13:04:31
Nick Foles to the Bears! Finally, there is some hope...  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 19 March 2020, 21:54:50
The disgruntled Darius Slay was traded to the Eagles today, and in return Detroit gets a 3rd and 5th round picks. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 20 March 2020, 04:25:27
The disgruntled Darius Slay was traded to the Eagles today, and in return Detroit gets a 3rd and 5th round picks.
and Slay got 3yr/$50m extension.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2020, 10:30:31
if you can't be a legend on the field, be a legend at the bank
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 20 March 2020, 20:34:41
Speaking of legends at the bank, Tom Brady inked a deal with the Bucs worth $50 million over two years.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 21 March 2020, 00:31:09
Speaking of legends at the bank, Tom Brady inked a deal with the Bucs worth $50 million over two years.
That's a ton of cash for QB who is on the decline. Here's hoping that the Bucs OC can design an offense similar to what he ran in NE. If not, expect failure more than you would success.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 21 March 2020, 07:38:50
That's a ton of cash for QB who is on the decline. Here's hoping that the Bucs OC can design an offense similar to what he ran in NE. If not, expect failure more than you would success.
Tom Brady is the Bucs OC for for all intents and purposes- I heard he'll get a say in personnel too.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 21 March 2020, 07:41:32
Looking at cheering for the Bills this coming season, if Vedvik manages to grab a slot on the team.

Great thing about being a ferringer - I can cherrypick who I root for unbiased by location :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 10 April 2020, 14:05:01
The XFL is officially done.

No big surprise there.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 10 April 2020, 14:52:28
Yeah shutting it down when they did was a death sentence.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 April 2020, 00:22:42
all staff laid off and no plans for next year seems like the "mostly dead" situation in the princess bride. could billy crystal and carol kane pull out a miracle? possible, but unlikely
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 11 April 2020, 01:51:21
It was unlikely enough to get another season before all this mess so odds seem especially not good at this point.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 20 April 2020, 12:46:26
The end of The Evil Empire.   xp

Nah, Palpatine is still there, he's just ditched Vader.  Belichick has always been more  key to the Pats success than Brady.  Hell, the year Brady went down week 1, he handed the reins to a guy who hadn't started at quarterback since high school, and still went 11-5.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 April 2020, 13:26:19
interested to see who they bring in. currently the only QB on the roster is a 4th rounder out of Auburn
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 April 2020, 15:56:25
interested to see who they bring in. currently the only QB on the roster is a 4th rounder out of Auburn

That's no way to talk about Brian Hoyer!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 20 April 2020, 16:28:43
That's no way to talk about Brian Hoyer!

You're right, ignoring him is far more credit than be deserves.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 April 2020, 01:22:05
That's no way to talk about Brian Hoyer!

hoyer's not even on the official roster yet - not sure how i missed such a HUGE signing

i was referring to this specimen of football greatness

(http://puu.sh/FAlmb/b5221c2103.png)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 21 April 2020, 16:24:31
Gronk is back, and going to the Bucs.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 21 April 2020, 16:35:17
I’m not a Pats fan, so understand that this is grudging praise.  But I can’t help but be impressed with the Pats front office.  Gronkowski was retired.  They were going to get 0 production from him this year.  Instead, they send Tampa a retiree, and in return get to turn a 7th round pick into a 4th.  They literally got something for nothing.  Anybody that says the Pats dynasty was over because Brady left is fooling themsleves.  *This* is the wizardry that’s made the Pats dynasty.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 21 April 2020, 16:58:36
*nod*

It is one of the many reasons I don't accept Brady as the GOAT.

Well I'll be precise in my wording in that I don't mind he is in the discussion to be the GOAT, but undisputed?  No.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 April 2020, 17:06:41
Tommy Terrific and the the meathead ride again
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 21 April 2020, 17:36:51
The only objection to this I have is that this isn't Pats front office wizardry.  It takes two to tango, and the frustrating part is how they can still find teams begging to be fleeced for dust bunnies.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 April 2020, 19:20:44
Gronk in Florida.

It's gonna be a hell of a year-round spring break party. Woooooooo. *smashing beer keg on forehead*
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 21 April 2020, 19:26:02
Yeah I watched Gronk on Masked Singer and now I'm getting bad images of how those two will celebrate every time they manage to come off the field without needing assistance.

Any bets on who throws a hip out first? :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 April 2020, 19:32:54
Yeah I watched Gronk on Masked Singer and now I'm getting bad images of how those two will celebrate every time they manage to come off the field without needing assistance.

Any bets on who throws a hip out first? :D

Philip Rivers.  ^-^
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 21 April 2020, 20:14:40
Rivers will throw his back out long before his hip, what with that small army he has in tow that he calls his family. :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 22 April 2020, 00:19:34
The only objection to this I have is that this isn't Pats front office wizardry.  It takes two to tango, and the frustrating part is how they can still find teams begging to be fleeced for dust bunnies.

Eh, how is that different from all the other teams who trade picks?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 22 April 2020, 01:37:55
Eh, how is that different from all the other teams who trade picks?

Most teams don't trade 4th round picks for retired players.  It's a draft capital windfall that should frankly be impossible and the frustrating part is how consistently the Patriots manage to fleece everyone else as badly as everyone else fleeces Bill O'Brian.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 22 April 2020, 07:41:17
Most teams don't trade 4th round picks for retired players.  It's a draft capital windfall that should frankly be impossible and the frustrating part is how consistently the Patriots manage to fleece everyone else as badly as everyone else fleeces Bill O'Brian.

Meh, Brett Farve was retired and traded for a 4th rounder. Marshawn Lynch was retired and traded for a 5th round pick. Carson Palmer was retired and traded for a 1st round pick! Besides, it's not like the Patriots could afford him with their cap situation.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 22 April 2020, 09:35:29
According to the reports I’ve read, he didn’t want to play for NE anyway.  He unretired for the express purpose of rejoining Brady outside New England.  The Pats were never going to have him on their cap.  Also, the fact that other teams have made bad deals for retired players doesn’t really excuse the Bucs also doing so.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 22 April 2020, 11:19:38
It all depends, if it's a success it was a smart deal. Time will tell.

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 23 April 2020, 23:59:16
I have to admit just because it is virtual I am having much less interest in following the draft but so far there look to be no real surprises.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 24 April 2020, 07:21:42
Oh, the Raiders made sure to reach and the Packers kind of caught everyone by surprise. A few other teams seemed to reach, as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 24 April 2020, 12:33:07
Okay I guess I should rephrase that I wasn't all that surprised.  A little sure but not much.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 03 May 2020, 08:21:48
https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/radiocom/bengals-release-long-time-starter-andy-dalton

meanwhile in CVG, things get really interesting...?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 03 May 2020, 10:53:35
Dalton is one of the QBs I do consider better than most people give credit for but still not terribly surprised since the Bengals got their QB of the future in Burrow.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 03 May 2020, 11:03:02
Dalton took $3m to hold a clipboard in Dallas for a year. Incentives could raise it to $7m if he’s pressed into actually playing.

Meanwhile the bears declined Trubisky’s 2021 option. Looks like it’s full speed ahead on foles as a bridge to the Next Guy™️
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 03 May 2020, 12:18:08
Dalton took $3m to hold a clipboard in Dallas for a year. Incentives could raise it to $7m if he’s pressed into actually playing.

Meanwhile the bears declined Trubisky’s 2021 option. Looks like it’s full speed ahead on foles as a bridge to the Next Guy™️
It’ll be interesting to see if he does actually just hold a clipboard.  That’s an awfully strong backup. Could significantly weaken Dak’s hand.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 03 May 2020, 12:43:25
Part of the negotiations to be sure. It makes holding out seem much more foolhardy
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 03 May 2020, 13:09:45
Part of the negotiations to be sure. It makes holding out seem much more foolhardy

And if Prescott actually does end up walking (either his doing or Jerrah, pulling the tender), Dalton makes for good insurance. He's no Dak, for sure, but it beats being stuck in the spot the Colts were in last year- franchise QB is gone suddenly and no good replacement option. (Brissett, sadly, wasn't really the replacement they needed, thus Rivers' arrival)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 May 2020, 08:02:52
Bonus for Dalton, he lives in Dallas. It should be interesting to see if Dallas or New Orleans (Winston) snags a decent comp pick next year when these guys try to find another starting job.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 15 May 2020, 13:04:42
Well, the Giants and Seahawks may both be down a starting cornerback...because they robbed people at gunpoint (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29176557/nfl-cornerbacks-deandre-baker-quinton-dunbar-wanted-armed-robbery-charges).

Some people just can't leave the thug life behind, I guess....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 15 May 2020, 13:59:17
Fully understandable, with the salary cap they have to freelance to supplement their income.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 15 May 2020, 14:45:00
Damned socialism, how can millionaires survive?   :P
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 15 May 2020, 14:54:03
initially i read cornerbacks as quarterbacks and lost my shit over Russell Wilson and ****** DANIEL JONES robbing people at gunpoint
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 15 May 2020, 15:02:59
initially i read cornerbacks as quarterbacks and lost my shit over Russell Wilson and ****** DANIEL JONES robbing people at gunpoint
Don't feel bad you aren't the only one
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 15 May 2020, 16:24:55
i don't feel bad. i feel disappointed that it wasn't the real story
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 May 2020, 09:21:16
The story of Danny Dimes becoming Danny Dimebags would be riveting, I'm sure.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 May 2020, 08:44:46
two thoughts

1) i'm going to be intensely annoyed if belichick trots out a 4th round nobody and makes the playoffs

2) i wish more athletes would say The Thing out loud https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29240242/melvin-gordon-says-chargers-home-games-prepped-playing-no-fans
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 29 May 2020, 10:53:03
two thoughts

1) i'm going to be intensely annoyed if belichick trots out a 4th round nobody and makes the playoffs

2) i wish more athletes would say The Thing out loud https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29240242/melvin-gordon-says-chargers-home-games-prepped-playing-no-fans (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29240242/melvin-gordon-says-chargers-home-games-prepped-playing-no-fans)
You mean like when he trotted out a 6th round nobody and made the playoffs?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 May 2020, 12:38:50
wow what a different world. at that point the franchise history was

*cartoonish incompetence out of the gate as an expansion club
*being on the business end of one of the most complete ass kickings in Super Bowl history against perhaps the greatest defense in the modern history of the league
*A moderately competitive loss to the packers under Parcells

bill was nothing special at that point. he had done well under parcells in new york (he was the DC when they beat the broncos) but his gig in cleveland wasn't exactly hall-of-fame worthy.

out of nowhere you get tommy boy filling in for bledsoe, the tuck rule game, and bill crafting one of the great defensive gameplans of all time to stifle the Greatest Show on Turf™. at the time it was kind of cute. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 29 May 2020, 14:50:37
It's strange to see the Patriots star falling. Since Canadians generally don't have regional allegiances to NFL teams, those who are American football fans have replaced their Patriots jerseys with Chiefs jerseys.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 29 May 2020, 14:53:11
We'll see how the Pats do this coming season, was it the magic of Brady, or is it the magic of Bill?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 29 May 2020, 18:42:12
Belichick made Brady.  Just look at the year Brady went down Week 1: the Pats still went 11-5, with a QB who hadn't started a game at QB since high school.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 30 May 2020, 01:20:19
two thoughts

1) i'm going to be intensely annoyed if belichick trots out a 4th round nobody and makes the playoffs

2) i wish more athletes would say The Thing out loud https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29240242/melvin-gordon-says-chargers-home-games-prepped-playing-no-fans

My guess is prepared to be annoyed

And wow you never really hear about players talking about lack of fans
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 June 2020, 13:04:33
Saw a CNN headline "NFL star organizing protest with police" but they never said who the star was, they just kept talking about Leonard Fournette.

 ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 09 June 2020, 13:22:35
Saw a CNN headline "NFL star organizing protest with police" but they never said who the star was, they just kept talking about Leonard Fournette.

 ;)

Zing.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 29 June 2020, 09:31:16
Pats signs Cam Newton.

https://www.nfl.com/news/it-s-official-cam-newton-signs-1-year-deal-to-join-patriots
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 June 2020, 10:23:43
The only question I have is what took thePatriots so long to pull this trigger?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 June 2020, 11:13:32
Probably knew they had time. The longer wait probably saved them some money (knowing the pats it was probably like $200k). As much as cam wants to be a starter he also wants to pay his bills.

Early returns on college workouts and positive Covid tests in college summer camps do not bode well for the season starting on time

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 29 June 2020, 11:31:09
Probably knew they had time. The longer wait probably saved them some money (knowing the pats it was probably like $200k). As much as cam wants to be a starter he also wants to pay his bills.

Early returns on college workouts and positive Covid tests in college summer camps do not bode well for the season starting on time

My nephew just reported for camp at the University of Utah and the whole family is pretty concerned.  I played Div III college basketball and can attest to the fact that when guys get sick on your team when all you are doing is training (for us it was winter break when everyone was home for Xmas) everyone catches things instantly.  I'm really hoping the football programs around the country are doing some testing and trying to keep the kids focused on ball and playstation because otherwise we're going to have a really sad football season this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 June 2020, 13:54:46
The only question I have is what took thePatriots so long to pull this trigger?

Maybe they were waiting to pull it out until the official report of their fine and loss of draft pick (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29380577/new-england-patriots-fined-11-million-lose-draft-pick-film-crew-fallout) over their recording scandal was out so people would be distracted and not notice as much.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 29 June 2020, 21:08:55
Maybe they were waiting to pull it out until the official report of their fine and loss of draft pick (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29380577/new-england-patriots-fined-11-million-lose-draft-pick-film-crew-fallout) over their recording scandal was out so people would be distracted and not notice as much.
You mean the scandal that took way to long to finish up the penalty.  The one where the Browns knew the crew was there and gave them credentials to shoot video for a Patriots web series called "Do Your Job."
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2020, 07:36:08
You mean the scandal that took way to long to finish up the penalty.  The one where the Browns knew the crew was there and gave them credentials to shoot video for a Patriots web series called "Do Your Job."

No, the one where they were at the Bengal's stadium, were caught filming the sidelines against rules and offered to to delete the filming so no one would know to the security guard who caught them while they were being recorded.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 30 June 2020, 08:44:14
and the security guards were acting like they caught some spies stealing nuclear secrets
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2020, 10:46:46
and the security guards were acting like they caught some spies stealing nuclear secrets

C'mon, if you're a security guard for the Bengals, what's going to top that in your career?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 30 June 2020, 11:41:49
No, the one where they were at the Bengal's stadium, were caught filming the sidelines against rules and offered to to delete the filming so no one would know to the security guard who caught them while they were being recorded.
Wasn't it in Cleveland, which is why the Brown who okayed the credentials for the crew to go in and film the piece.  Now the Pats say well we didn't tell the NFL or the Bengals we filming this series there, but really if I have received proper credentials from the ownership of the Stadium I am there to film a program at (especially an away not filming in NE), and they know what I am doing, why do I have to tell everyone.  Shouldn't that be the job of the people who handed out the credential, to let anyone else know that they okayed the shooting of that piece.
Not really seeing the issue, and even Max Kellerman on ESPN who not a Pats fan at all saying "that the only reason NE was even given a slap on the wrist, was their history not because this was wrong."

Benegal employee saw them, thought they were illegally onsite...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2020, 12:03:12
It's illegal to film the sidelines and they did it.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 30 June 2020, 13:03:20
It's amazing the lengths to which Pats fans (presumably) will go to justify the Patriots' cheating as anyone's fault but the Patriots.

It's illegal to film the sidelines and they did it.

This is not arguable.  The cameraman telling the guard "I'll delete this if you don't tell anyone about it" is extra damning.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 30 June 2020, 13:16:20
C'mon, if you're a security guard for the Bengals, what's going to top that in your career?

did one of them get to escort johnny football of the premises? maybe that
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 30 June 2020, 13:24:53
My nephew just reported for camp at the University of Utah and the whole family is pretty concerned.  I played Div III college basketball and can attest to the fact that when guys get sick on your team when all you are doing is training (for us it was winter break when everyone was home for Xmas) everyone catches things instantly.  I'm really hoping the football programs around the country are doing some testing and trying to keep the kids focused on ball and playstation because otherwise we're going to have a really sad football season this year.
I have a friend who’s an athletic trainer for a D-II school, and they’re limiting to ten players at a time in the weight room (among other precautions).  Her main worry is that there may not be enough hours in the day for all the players on all the teams to work out unless they’ve literally got an AT stationed there and players lifting all night, which would be kind of nuts.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 01 July 2020, 10:28:32
did one of them get to escort johnny football of the premises? maybe that

Do Ohio football teams all look the same? Sheesh, you guys have Browns on the brain!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 01 July 2020, 12:22:39
Back before the Bungholes added the tiger stripes to their uniforms, they actually did!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 01 July 2020, 12:50:47
Back before the Bungholes added the tiger stripes to their uniforms, they actually did!

You guys act like both teams were started by the same guy....

 ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 01 July 2020, 14:28:55
I'm honest as much as I'm looking forward to activities back.   I'm not sure how at this time they are going to do it and not end up with Covid outbreaks.  Especially with School sports, they are not going to be able to Bubble them like the pro plan on it...

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 01 July 2020, 15:48:27
Do Ohio football teams all look the same? Sheesh, you guys have Browns on the brain!

all punching bags look more or less alike...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 06 July 2020, 15:16:55
I guess Mahomes is going to stick around KC for a bit.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 06 July 2020, 15:21:59
the back end of those deals are always funny money as once the guaranteed portion is paid out they can just cut him if he ends up in an albert pujols-level decline. he has two years left as-is so i'd say they're with him for at least 7-8 more seasons minimum
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 06 July 2020, 16:17:25
For those not willing or interested in googling, it's a 10-year extension for $450 million dollars, putting his remaining contract for the Chiefs at 12 years, through 2031 minimum.

It's insane and honestly given that half of KC seems ready to sacrifice their first born, less than I was expecting.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 07 July 2020, 09:15:08
it's looking like if things go sideways it's at worst a 6yr/$185m deal (more in line with goff). there's an injury guarantee in there too but unless he performs at a high level into his mid 30s (not impossible), he'll never see the full $503m

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 July 2020, 10:48:55
According to Over the Cap (https://overthecap.com/thoughts-on-mahomes-450-million-contract/), his next year guarantees, so he's going to get even more than that.

Quote from: Over the Cap
EDIT: Since writing the guarantee structure was reported on and it is very strong for Mahomes. Basically with the exception of the final year of the contract any release of Mahomes would require payment of his entire next years salary. For the most part he is likely virtually guaranteed to earn all but the paragraph 5 of the 2031 season. For the Chiefs there is no out unless they can convince him to agree to a trade.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 07 July 2020, 10:53:59
yikes. he would have to decline into a truly wretched state for the chiefs to want to take that cap hit. i guess if they devolve into irrelevance (say bottom five in the league) and knew the next season was going to be 3-13 anyway, you could probably justify it.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 07 July 2020, 12:08:25
Barring career-ending injury in the next 2-3 years, this contract absolutely looks like the kind of contract you'd give a QB you expect to be first-ballot Hall of Fame for over a decade and still have a team around him.

I have no idea how Veach managed this sorcery but holy crap it's good.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 07 July 2020, 12:23:58
the biggest sorcery is how their cap is barely affected until ~2023. what was the burden from the contract this year? $30k? this is the triumph of new school GMing
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 July 2020, 13:58:43
the biggest sorcery is how their cap is barely affected until ~2023. what was the burden from the contract this year? $30k? this is the triumph of new school GMing

Just over $5.3M this year, they didn't have a lot of room. The $60M cap hit in 2027 might require some belt-tightening, though. Of course, they could cut him and only have a cap hit of $105M....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 07 July 2020, 14:18:11
I've heard within the next few years because of legalized gambling and other factors the salary cap may go up by as much as 50%. If true, this contract isn't nearly as nuts as it seems.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 08 July 2020, 01:53:30
Desean Jackson is in a bit of trouble for his latest comments.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 08 July 2020, 09:03:52
not much to say about it without immediately stepping directly into a rule 4 minefield

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 08 July 2020, 14:11:19
Some people's kids, I tell ya...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 08 July 2020, 15:28:35
other people's children cause a majority of the world's problems
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 08 July 2020, 15:33:51
Even if they're older than us.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 08 July 2020, 15:41:39
correct
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 09 July 2020, 00:16:45
Seems the 'skins are finally coming to their senses:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/washington-******-to-remove-native-american-imagery-from-logo-report

Sounds like a namechange is also in the pipeline..
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 09 July 2020, 00:57:50
It would be nice if they could find a way to honor native Americans with name and logo change.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 09 July 2020, 18:32:09
It would be nice if they could find a way to honor native Americans with name and logo change.
I'd prefer the Redwolves or Redtails.   I don't want Warriors but that appears to be the front runner.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 09 July 2020, 18:33:39
From a comical POV, I prefer Swamp Rats.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 09 July 2020, 19:22:27
From a comical POV, I prefer Swamp Rats.
Lmao....

Speaking of the infamous current residents of the area, I'm glad it's not going to be the Generals or the Senators or some other easy, go-to DC type of name.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 10 July 2020, 07:35:17
Lmao....

Speaking of the infamous current residents of the area, I'm glad it's not going to be the Generals or the Senators or some other easy, go-to DC type of name.

Monday Night Football, the Cowboys vs. the Lobbyists.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 10 July 2020, 11:25:17
Monday Night Football, the Cowboys vs. the Lobbyists.

The whole game is bogged down in procedure and tabled indefinitely.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 10 July 2020, 12:55:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfduUFF_i1A&feature=youtu.be&t=180
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 July 2020, 14:43:51
The whole game is bogged down in procedure and tabled indefinitely.
Sounds like the start of Game 27 from 17776.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 10 July 2020, 18:45:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfduUFF_i1A&feature=youtu.be&t=180
Socrates was offside  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 10 July 2020, 19:34:42
Desean Jackson is in a bit of trouble for his latest comments.
Some people, the lack of historical knowledge...  It was nice to see his own teammates who called him out as well s players on other teams.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 10 July 2020, 20:02:41
Socrates was offside  ;)

It wasn’t until years after seeing this that I learned the rules and discovered this wasn’t just a joke
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 10 July 2020, 20:11:16
Sounds like the start of Game 27 from 17776.

They had to strike remote teleporting the ball from QB to receiver from the game that year.  No pick 6s or any other interception for half a century made the game boring and predictable.  Not to mention that careers only average 1.67 seasons by that point.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 12 July 2020, 14:12:15
Football during a pandemic.

For the 2020/2021 season the NFL will not allow players from opposing teams to shake hands, hug, or exchange jerseys after the game.

This after they just spent the last three hours literally butting heads, with sweat, spittle, and even blood flying everywhere.  ???
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 12 July 2020, 15:15:08
Social distancing will apply to the on-field players as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 12 July 2020, 19:14:58
Social distancing will apply to the on-field players as well.

for the first time, a wide receiver will actually be as open as he claims he is
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 12 July 2020, 19:22:51
Social distancing will apply to the on-field players as well.
Won’t really affect the rules for tackling a QB.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 13 July 2020, 03:20:43
Reports that the ****** will announced a name change today, monday.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 13 July 2020, 14:54:48
Kansas City?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Decoy on 13 July 2020, 15:35:17
Well, now 's the time to swap the Panthers with the Cowboys as far as divisions go. If you're changing things, then make it complete.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 13 July 2020, 15:42:31
Kansas City?

The Washington Kansas Cities just doesn't sound good.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 13 July 2020, 16:12:32
The Washington Kansas Cities just doesn't sound good.
No, no give it some time...it might grow on you.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 13 July 2020, 16:28:49
Fungus can grow on you too, if you sit very still for a while. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 13 July 2020, 17:16:01
as long as the current ownership controls the team, they should just call themselves the Washington Clownshow
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 13 July 2020, 19:07:11
as long as the current ownership controls the team, they should just call themselves the Washington Clownshow
I'm sorry to inform you that many clowns are professionals and shows are typically well organized.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 13 July 2020, 19:14:43
I'm sorry to inform you that many clowns are professionals and shows are typically well organized.

True that.  A circus only appears to be scarcely controlled chaos to the onlookers.  To the performers, its thoroughly practiced and executed chaos.

****** ownership and management has been rehearsing.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 13 July 2020, 19:39:43
I'm sorry to inform you that many clowns are professionals and shows are typically well organized.

You know what you’re absolutely right
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 13 July 2020, 19:50:50
You know what you’re absolutely right
This acknowledgement:  it means a lot.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Smegish on 14 July 2020, 00:13:10
Washington Swamp Rats?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 14 July 2020, 02:37:04
Hey someone else came up with the same name as me.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 14 July 2020, 07:51:53
A real estate agent from Alexandria, VA appears to have snapped up the trademarks on many of the odds-favored choices
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 July 2020, 09:18:13
I hope the new name they choose get's added to the Censortron, just for fun.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 14 July 2020, 12:21:23
A real estate agent from Alexandria, VA appears to have snapped up the trademarks on many of the odds-favored choices
Well, that's one opportunistic douchebag.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 July 2020, 14:01:23
Well, that's one opportunistic douchebag.

To be fair, he's been doing it since 2004 and selling merchandise based on them. Snyder might have had better choices if he hadn't waited two decades to fix his team's name.

Also, Chris Jones is rich and Kansas City has got to be running low on actual cash.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 14 July 2020, 15:12:52
Kelce will be revealed as an robot that will work for the league minimum worth of SAE 30
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2020, 12:36:56
Mahomes's signing bonus was only 10 million, they have plenty.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 15 July 2020, 12:57:20
That ignores Andy Reid's all-you-can-eat bonus.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2020, 13:01:32
If you think he's paying for a meal in KC ever again...  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 23 July 2020, 12:45:11
https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-football-team-nfl-name-change (https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-football-team-nfl-name-change)

Washington Football Team.   :toofunny:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 23 July 2020, 13:00:18
The haggling with the copyright holder must have gone poorly  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 23 July 2020, 13:10:00
Only a temporary name until the real name and logo is revealed.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 23 July 2020, 13:48:21
I for one will proudly (and ironically) buy the shit out of t-shirts that say "Go Football Team" on them and I hope they keep the name forever.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 23 July 2020, 14:39:41
Only a temporary name until the real name and logo is revealed.

Doesn't make it any less ridiculous.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 23 July 2020, 14:42:36
I for one will proudly (and ironically) buy the shit out of t-shirts that say "Go Football Team" on them and I hope they keep the name forever.

the pro sports equivalent of
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q~QAAOSwRRVbqTVC/s-l300.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 23 July 2020, 18:38:22
the pro sports equivalent of
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q~QAAOSwRRVbqTVC/s-l300.jpg)
Except in burgundy and gold; totally diggin' it.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 24 July 2020, 07:30:51
Also doubles for Florida State games!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 24 July 2020, 09:38:24
I for one will proudly (and ironically) buy the shit out of t-shirts that say "Go Football Team" on them and I hope they keep the name forever.

I'm doubting any merch will be made this season, butbim with you- if I see any, I'm grabbing it purely for my own amusement.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 24 July 2020, 14:03:02
Also doubles for Florida State games!

shirt and booze both
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 24 July 2020, 18:51:30
I'm doubting any merch will be made this season, butbim with you- if I see any, I'm grabbing it purely for my own amusement.
I think they already announced merchandise will go on sale within the next few weeks around the first preseason game so there's hope yet for the greatest potential t-shirt ever
I for one will proudly (and ironically) buy the shit out of t-shirts that say "Go Football Team" on them and I hope they keep the name forever.
Go Football Team generated a number of chuckles in the office today.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 25 July 2020, 14:22:58
Kansas City Chiefs’ Laurent Duvernay-Tardif is the first NFL player to opt out of the season, saying Friday that he doesn't want to risk transmitting the virus just “to play the sport that I love.”
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 July 2020, 16:52:35
Well, the Jets pulled it off. They got Seattle to hand over 2 firsts, a third and a safety for Adams and a fourth. That seems way too much for a safety that will be expecting $15M a year soon.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 July 2020, 17:58:51
Kansas City Chiefs’ Laurent Duvernay-Tardif is the first NFL player to opt out of the season, saying Friday that he doesn't want to risk transmitting the virus just “to play the sport that I love.”
Not coincidentally, he’s the only MD on an NFL roster.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 25 July 2020, 18:00:04
Well, the Jets pulled it off. They got Seattle to hand over 2 firsts, a third and a safety for Adams and a fourth. That seems way too much for a safety that will be expecting $15M a year soon.
That is some Pats level draft pick wizardry by the Jets.  Or Seattle is just idiots.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 26 July 2020, 07:55:20
That is some Pats level draft pick wizardry by the Jets.  Or Seattle is just idiots.
A combination of both, most likely.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 26 July 2020, 10:25:46
I usually fault the team getting the player for overpaying. The Seahawks either believe they were a piece away from a title shot or are desperate to wedge open a closing window. Wizardry is usually just good scouting and understanding a player’s value in your system (admittedly this is a rare quality)

At least Herschel Walker type trades aren’t allowed any more
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 26 July 2020, 16:33:23
Well, the Jets pulled it off. They got Seattle to hand over 2 firsts, a third and a safety for Adams and a fourth. That seems way too much for a safety that will be expecting $15M a year soon.
:o :o :o :o  Wow and people say the Pats pull off some great trades
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 02 September 2020, 01:56:40
Off Fournette goes! Where will he end up?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 02 September 2020, 23:57:48
And the player I hope gets lots of playtime is now at the Panthers..... %D

Kaare Vedvik has been waived by the Bills and picked up by the Panthers, and been training punting and kicking (including FGs).

Hopefully he'll do allright there :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 03 September 2020, 09:56:40
Off Fournette goes! Where will he end up?

Looks like the Tampa Brady's.

And the player I hope gets lots of playtime is now at the Panthers..... %D

Kaare Vedvik has been waived by the Bills and picked up by the Panthers, and been training punting and kicking (including FGs).

Hopefully he'll do allright there :D

If he gets lucky, he could be the second best European kicker ever.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 03 September 2020, 11:00:39
And the player I hope gets lots of playtime is now at the Panthers..... %D

Kaare Vedvik has been waived by the Bills and picked up by the Panthers, and been training punting and kicking (including FGs).

Hopefully he'll do allright there :D
If he could over his real game yips (anxiety/nervousness) he might turn into a decent NFL kicker. From I hear and see he looks great in practice, but when it comes to a real game he's not as good.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 03 September 2020, 14:52:26
If he could over his real game yips (anxiety/nervousness) he might turn into a decent NFL kicker. From I hear and see he looks great in practice, but when it comes to a real game he's not as good.

Yepp, so hopefully he's learned a lot in his year since his bad results last year.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 05 September 2020, 15:14:11
Crap, Vedvik was cut from the Panthers.

Guess it's back to rooting for the Pats :(
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 September 2020, 22:04:12
Well, if the Chiefs keep playing like this it's going to be tricky to call who they take on in the Superbowl.  Solid play, LOTS of offense options, and another hot-stuff rookie in Edwards-Helaire.  My mother remains pleased with the football gods.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 13 September 2020, 15:20:46
Nice, two rushing touchdowns for Cam Newton today.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 13 September 2020, 16:21:00
I'll admit I expected the games to look a fair bit uglier/less polished than they did today but I am pleasantly surprised at how well all the games I watched looked.

Seattle/Atlanta both looked pretty tired by the end though but even then it was a better game than I had expected.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 13 September 2020, 17:04:26
bill and cam should win that division. will probably come down to what the bills and pats do head to head

meanwhile i can report from watching the game that aaron rogers is indeed back to regularly doing aaron rogers things. there were four throws in that game that were absolutely filthy
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 13 September 2020, 19:46:44
Go Football Team!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 14 September 2020, 05:24:34
Go Football Team!

Best record in the NFC Least.    ???
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 14 September 2020, 14:13:56
Watching Josh Allen is the most entertaining way to watch American football.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 14 September 2020, 14:46:35
I'm a Lions fan, so things like football leagues and championships and "cultures of winning" are irrelevant and meaningless in many, many ways.

But I'm still glad football's back.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DEZOAT on 16 September 2020, 04:06:08
 :P Hey rebs we have the same old Lions and yes NFL is back. We shall see how long it last.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: S2pidiT on 16 September 2020, 07:15:39
As a Lions fan, the best thing I've read so far is this WSJ title: The Year 2020 Is Already Sideways. So Let’s Just Pick the Detroit Lions to Win the Super Bowl (https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-year-2020-is-already-sideways-so-lets-just-pick-the-detroit-lions-to-win-the-super-bowl-11599742820)

I can't see behind the paywall, but the title made me laugh. I'm not sure the Lions winning the Super Bowl would be the strangest thing to happen this year...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 16 September 2020, 07:26:45
you're right. that would be the jets
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 September 2020, 06:53:29
Looking at tonight's match-up, I'm glad there's hockey on I can watch instead!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 September 2020, 12:05:40
Stupid NFL network, we don't get it here.  No Thursday Night Football for me.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 17 September 2020, 12:36:21
Considering who's playing tonight, that may be a good thing!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 17 September 2020, 12:55:06
Being in the time zone I am I can't watch the late games :)

But we get, what, 5 games a week here. Monday Night, Thursday Night, and 3 on Sundays.

I tend to watch the first two (or most of the second anyways) on sundays.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 17 September 2020, 13:30:29
yeah i don't get any of the supplementary sports channels on my cable package so no ohio toilet bowl for me. probably will watch celtics-heat game 2 and keep an eye on hockey
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 September 2020, 13:40:14
"Ohio Toilet Bowl" just became my favorite thing.  Now I want to see this game, augh!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 17 September 2020, 22:49:43
The Bears shouldnt have won that game, but I'll take it, I guess. I'm still hoping the coaches see the light and dump Trubisky- that kid is wildly inconsistent.  ???
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 18 September 2020, 07:53:43
So an NFL team from Ohio can win a game?   :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 18 September 2020, 09:48:08
So an NFL team from Ohio can win a game?   :D
And these days, even though it is uncommon, it's usually Cleveland that wins.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 18 September 2020, 10:56:07
So an NFL team from Ohio can win a game?   :D

new rule: both teams can lose if they're poop
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 September 2020, 11:18:22
Hey, it can always end in a tie.  Didn't this time, but you never know.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 19 September 2020, 14:36:55
And these days, even though it is uncommon, it's usually Cleveland that wins.

It would have been more entertaining IF the Clowns lost. More than 50% of callers [during the week before Thursday's game] to the morning, mid day and afternoon shows seemed to favor a QB change because they really felt Mayfield was turning into a Non-Bipolar Manziel (or something. BM is NOTHING like Manziel's issues). Of course, since public opinion goes with the direction of the wind, we need several more honest-to-god losses before we actually see any change.

I still to the view that the Clowns are meant to be a AAA-team to the rest of the league. They need to have a winning season before i put any stock into them.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 September 2020, 16:29:04
falcons fans must be DEPRESSED. the last i saw it was a 15 point game with seven minutes left. how do you blow that? (oh, right. 28-3)

i'd say gase is on the hot seat, but who cares? it doesn't matter how good the diver is if the car is always on fire.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 September 2020, 18:59:17
So does Butker get any kind of a bonus for winning the same game three times in a row?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 20 September 2020, 19:31:22
Butker's kicks that game:

PAT Blocked
58 yard FG GOOD (franchise record)
30 yard FG GOOD (as time expired to force OT)
53 yard FG GOOD (called back by false start)
58 yard FG GOOD (called back by timeout)
58 yard FG GOOD (game winner in OT)

this is absolutely insane and the man better be getting paid.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 21 September 2020, 07:54:05
The Buffalo Bills are in sole possession of the AFC East lead.

2020 is truly the beginning of the end of days.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 September 2020, 08:07:20
falcons fans must be DEPRESSED. the last i saw it was a 15 point game with seven minutes left. how do you blow that? (oh, right. 28-3)


I'm wondering if Zuerlein secretly put glitter on the ball and bedazzled the Falcons.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 21 September 2020, 09:08:26
So what is the butcher's bill? I was listening to game stats/updates yesterday (before FUN began at work) and apparently there are TONS of injuries across multiple teams... in many cases, season ending? Oh My...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 21 September 2020, 09:24:56
Well, we knew the lack of a preseason would likely result in this.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 September 2020, 13:23:44
the cancellation of off-season workouts was also theoretically bad for this.

football outsiders has an interesting analysis for up through last season. it will be interesting to see how 2020 fits into the trends. right now we're looking for and expecting more injuries so it may end up being a case of confirmation bias. i'd expect things to level out by mid season once people start getting in better shape - until then, bubblewrap your starters  xp

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/2019-adjusted-games-lost-part-i
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 21 September 2020, 14:13:57
So what is the butcher's bill? I was listening to game stats/updates yesterday (before FUN began at work) and apparently there are TONS of injuries across multiple teams... in many cases, season ending? Oh My...

With Bosa out and several other injuries, I think the 49ers hopes for another deep playoff run are hurting, to say the least.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 21 September 2020, 19:24:32
Well, we knew the lack of a preseason would likely result in this.

It's worse than a normal week 1 or week 2, but I don't believe for a second that it's worse than any given Preseason.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 September 2020, 20:30:43
a few more starters hurt, maybe (though i'd hesitate betting that it's been worse than preseason + a normal week one and two, by the numbers). we don't hear about a lot of the preseason injuries because they're generally not starters, dudes you draft in fantasy, or guys that move the betting line. a good number probably get cut.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 September 2020, 21:09:17
the one stat worth keeping tabs on - Torn ACLs so far: 7

(http://puu.sh/Gv87D/1f72f84657.png)
(2019 was 47)

if we take the average of 50 over the past ten years, we're only slightly ahead of the average (about 2.9 per week)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 22 September 2020, 05:26:15
Da Bears won, but barely. Trubisky looked like Tom Brady in the first half, then turned into Ryan Leaf in the 2nd. Ugh.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 22 September 2020, 05:58:24
Da Bears won, but barely. Trubisky looked like Tom Brady in the first half, then turned into Ryan Leaf in the 2nd. Ugh.
The Buccs would like thier Brady back so he plays the full game, not just two quarters. THey dislike the Bears sending him interceptitons and such. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 22 September 2020, 14:02:29
Ahhh, the Broncos prayers have been answered, Blake Bortles will sign with them.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 September 2020, 15:44:18
John Elway strikes again!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 22 September 2020, 16:18:28
John Elway strikes again!

The biggest reason Denver is looking up at Cleveland in the standings.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 22 September 2020, 20:11:31
Football Team!!...is not good.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 September 2020, 20:18:52
the one thing you can count on in the nfl. even the jets have made the AFC championship in recent memory
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 23 September 2020, 09:34:33
Football Team!!...is not good.

And if the season ended today, they'd win the NFC Least.   :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 September 2020, 13:26:12
As much as I'm saying GO RAIDERS, watching Burkhead crowd-surf into the end zone at the end of the 2nd was pretty bloody impressive.  Fly on, you crazy diamond.

But go Raiders.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DEZOAT on 27 September 2020, 13:38:25
 :P :P :P Well let see if the Lions will crash and burn or win a game today. I think they'll crash and burn today.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 September 2020, 16:02:51
Cincy and Phily are truly the two worst teams in the NFL.   :toofunny:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 27 September 2020, 19:21:04
Cincy and Phily are truly the two worst teams in the NFL.   :toofunny:
Did you see Denver play today?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 27 September 2020, 19:25:14
Guys. The Jets exist
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 September 2020, 19:37:39
Guys. The Jets exist
They just haven't been the same since Flash's disappearance cost them their star quarterback.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 27 September 2020, 20:09:27
Okay Seattle, that's enough heart attack inducing theatrics.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 27 September 2020, 20:22:26
And if the season ended today, they'd win the NFC Least.   :D
And still leading The Least at 1-2.  Go Football Team...stop turnovers though.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 28 September 2020, 00:38:49
How about them Falcons?
They really need to work on making their defence last past 3 quarters.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 28 September 2020, 01:56:38
How about them Falcons?
They really need to work on making their defence last past 3 quarters.

Da Bears shouldnt have won that game, but I'll take it, I guess. At least now Foles is the starter from here on out.

Tom Brady looked like his old self in Tampa Bay- that game wasnt even close.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 September 2020, 04:19:11
The Browns have as many wins as the entire NFC Least.    ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 September 2020, 07:46:00
Okay Seattle, that's enough heart attack inducing theatrics.

DK Metcalf knows how Leon Lett feels.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 28 September 2020, 08:46:44
Nah, it wasn't as bad as what Leon Lett did.  Plenty of players have made the same mistake though.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 28 September 2020, 10:45:33
The Browns have as many wins as the entire NFC Least.    ;D
and we (apparently) still have fans complaining that we didn't pass enough this week...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 September 2020, 10:52:18
apparently unless you go full mike leach 2009 NCAA spread and pass 65 times it's not enough
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 28 September 2020, 10:57:04
apparently unless you go full mike leach 2009 NCAA spread and pass 65 times it's not enough

Having watched the Pac-12 play against Mike Leach for years, I've been wondering how other leagues would do.  I think this was a tough year for LSU to play them--having just lost a lot of players after a great national championship team.  That being said:  it won't be the last team to fall to that kind of spread attack.  Without the bigger 'NFL-average' D-backs and linebackers taking up space and possessing insane NFL level footspeed, you're going to see a lot of NCAA defenses get embarassed.  Even when Mississippi State loses, they are going to put up yards on you.  That much is clear.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 September 2020, 19:37:36
The Browns have as many wins as the entire NFC Least.    ;D
Football Team...still bad.  Losing Ioannidis sucks.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 28 September 2020, 20:46:06
I regret to inform the rest of the league that the Chiefs are unstoppable.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 September 2020, 22:44:08
Agreed.

I expected that to be much closer.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 28 September 2020, 22:48:07
So the Chiefs join the Bills, Steelers, Titans, Seahawks, Packers, and Bears with no losses on the season.  Steelers and Titans play each other next week, so someone there's going to end up 3-1, thinning the first-place herd a little.

Agreed.

I expected that to be much closer.
I was expecting the same, but Baltimore's vaunted defense just couldn't hold the Chiefs.  Not that I'm complaining much, go KC.

Idly has there been any Football Team merchandise yet or are they just labeling everything Washington instead now?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 September 2020, 23:03:45
Did you see Denver play today?

Guys. The Jets exist

Guess who plays who this Thursday.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 September 2020, 23:09:53

Guess who plays who this Thursday.


And as Cincy/Phily proved, it doesn't mean somebody is going to win.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 September 2020, 00:31:35

Guess who plays who this Thursday.

My score prediction, a 3-3 tie. Pure ineptitude by both teams.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 September 2020, 06:35:41
What a blessing to not have NFL network

Chiefs-Packers Super Bowl with an over/under of 85 incoming
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 29 September 2020, 09:24:49
I enjoy watching the reruns of games - the late ones I missed are aired the next day without any breaks.

And during the main games on sundays we get Red Zone during the commercial breaks :)

All included in my cable package.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 September 2020, 09:27:48
redzone is football heroin
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 29 September 2020, 17:54:04
Tennessee and Minnesota are going to have a hard time.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30001007/tennessee-titans-close-facility-multiple-players-test-positive-covid-19
Both are closed, with three Titans players and five personnel sick with the bug, while the Vikings are not taking any chances considering they just played them.  Virtual team meetings only which is gonna play hob with training and game prep this week.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 01 October 2020, 10:48:44
The Steelers-Titans game is postponed to "later in the season" due to additional positive cases Wednesday.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 01 October 2020, 11:04:14
Also consider the referee crew for that game.  I would say that they shouldn't work for 14 days and some isolation.  Better to be overcautious so we can enjoy some games this season than to have things spiral early. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 01 October 2020, 12:29:39
especially since they seem to have it contained. the vikings are not showing any positive tests
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 01 October 2020, 23:33:58
I see the Jets have a 100% record in the league still.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 02 October 2020, 00:23:22
That Darnold TD run was incredible.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 02 October 2020, 00:46:16
I'm surprised the Broncos actually had a comeback victory.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 02 October 2020, 01:03:45
gase already got the dreaded vote of confidence from ownership. he's cooked.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 02 October 2020, 01:04:38
gase already got the dreaded vote of confidence from ownership. he's cooked.
Gase has to be the worst head coach in the NFL. Absolutely clueless.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2020, 01:52:40
How can you say that when Bill O'Brien is still dismantling what was a perfectly fine Texans team.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 02 October 2020, 03:27:51
How can you say that when Bill O'Brien is still dismantling what was a perfectly fine Texans team.
Good Coach. Terrible GM.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 02 October 2020, 07:34:04
Gase has to be the worst head coach in the NFL. Absolutely clueless.
Clearly you already have forgotten Freddie Kitchens...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 02 October 2020, 10:31:04
Clearly you already have forgotten Freddie Kitchens...

Well, he's out of contention, being fired and all last year....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 02 October 2020, 13:41:14
Good Coach. Terrible GM.

Good coaches win games.  The part where he's also directly contributing to not winning games is damning.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 02 October 2020, 16:37:26
Good coaches win games.  The part where he's also directly contributing to not winning games is damning.

O'Brien need a win this weekend.

On the subject of Gase being a bad coach: He has actually been successful getting wins. He took the awful 2018 Dolphins roster and the horrible 2019 Jets team to 7-9 records.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 02 October 2020, 17:33:50
good news for him, Kirk Cousins and the 0-3 vikings are in town
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 03 October 2020, 12:42:48
Cam Newton has tested positive and is out for Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 03 October 2020, 13:40:31
Cam Newton has tested positive and is out for Sunday.
More than a dozen Titans players have been tested positive for covid. This could get real ugly.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 04 October 2020, 01:40:21
Are we quickly approaching the end of the NFL season?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 04 October 2020, 02:33:48
It's one team plus Cam Newton, so far.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 04 October 2020, 03:33:32
It's one team plus Cam Newton, so far.
Not exactly- theyre now saying multiple players from the Pats and the Chiefs have also tested positive, so its 3 teams and counting.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 October 2020, 08:48:41
It was cam and a member of the chief’s practice squad. We’ll see what that looks like in next couple days. The titans are up to 18 - miraculously the Vikings didn’t seem to catch it.

This is not dissimilar to baseball’s early outbreaks. Obviously there are a lot more players in the NFL, but evolving protocols should reduce the potential for major outbreaks over time. The season is most imperiled by super spreader events where asymptotic carriers expose dozens of people

Ultimately there is too much money on the line to pull the plug too quickly
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 04 October 2020, 08:51:27
Yeah I doubt the plug will get pulled.

Plus it should provide some interesting data for the studies seeing how all this develops.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 04 October 2020, 10:47:26
So does this mean the Titans are out for two weeks?  How do those games get made up?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 October 2020, 12:01:45
The schedule is not forgiving. It’s not like baseball where you can play a double header or eight games in six days - that’s how the cardinals got caught up after being sidelined for most of the first part of the baseball season.

Depending on how many games get canceled, they may extend the season for makeups by a few weeks and delay the playoffs. Like with basketball, teams playing irrelevant games at the end of the season may just see them canceled. How that affects things like the draft is up to rog’s brain trust in New York
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 October 2020, 15:32:51
In the battle of give the game away, the Texans managed to not score on first and goal from the two down 8 with nearly two minutes left. The Vikings, up 15 with 8 minutes left had already attempted to give said game away by making overtime a possibility in the first place

0-3 vs 0-3 produces an on-brand result
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 05 October 2020, 09:56:29
The Browns still have as many wins as the entire NFC Least.   :toofunny:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 05 October 2020, 19:04:44
O’Brien canned by the Texans after 0-4 start
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 05 October 2020, 20:08:15
O’Brien canned by the Texans after 0-4 start
Go, Football Team!  It could be worse.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 05 October 2020, 20:25:09
Congratulations to the Texans for their first good personnel move in two years.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 October 2020, 09:25:57
I think Da Bears might be for real.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 09 October 2020, 09:36:43
their defense is. they have a top ten DVOA rank. so far their offense is bottom of the barrel bad. a couple of games with foles will let us know on that side of the ball. regardless, they're not going to compete with the packers or other upper tier NFC teams scoring twenty points unless their defense turns all time good
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 09 October 2020, 09:45:36
It's football.  Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 October 2020, 15:13:23
Things happening in KC 👀👀👀
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 11 October 2020, 16:58:43
What happened in KC?  According to Google the game ended 40-24, not 40-32.  Did I miss something at the end?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 11 October 2020, 18:16:05
What happened in KC?  According to Google the game ended 40-24, not 40-32.  Did I miss something at the end?
KC scored again and converted the two.

I'm other news: Football Team is bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 October 2020, 19:56:54
the jets have never fired a coach in-season. they should not start now. they need the draft picks

also that's a tough one for dak. the football gods did him dirty


this is your reminder that Andrew Gregory Dalton is the cowboy's backup
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 11 October 2020, 20:05:43
My ankle hurts just looking at Dak's.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 11 October 2020, 22:33:13
That Seattle Minnesota game, ******.

I will say though I think that should have been an incomplete pass there at the end not a fumble but I'm not sure it would have made a difference at that point.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 11 October 2020, 23:34:21
So is CLE's ranking equal to the NFC Least still? Four Wins in a row. I'm actually worried that the Clowns are NOT wearing clown gear this season...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 11 October 2020, 23:48:39
It is Cleveland.

As such it would not be the first time that there was a glimmer of hope to latch onto but later turn into a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 12 October 2020, 06:53:28
That Seattle Minnesota game, ******.

I will say though I think that should have been an incomplete pass there at the end not a fumble but I'm not sure it would have made a difference at that point.

Very entertaining second half. Minnesota sports radio going to be HOT about zimmer not kicking the field goal to go up 8. Can’t fault him as they were getting madden-on-easy yards on the ground the whole quarter and would have ended it right there.

Russel Wilson definitely added to his MVP front runner portfolio
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 12 October 2020, 07:13:08
As it stands now the MVP race is down to just two players, Russell Wilson and Josh Allen of the Bills.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 12 October 2020, 12:30:40
So is CLE's ranking equal to the NFC Least still? Four Wins in a row. I'm actually worried that the Clowns are NOT wearing clown gear this season...

Yes, still as many wins as the entire Least combined.

I can easily see them beating Pittsburgh next week.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 12 October 2020, 13:12:28
Cleveland vs Pittsburg with stakes? is it 1981?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 12 October 2020, 13:33:17
this is your reminder that Andrew Gregory Dalton is the cowboy's backup
It could be worse. I’d take Dalton over any Denver QB between Elway and Tebow (Jake Plummer excepted). Or any Denver QB since Manning, for that matter.


Hey, there’s a thought.  Dallas should bring Tebow in.  The NFC East may be even worse than the AFC West was when he took Denver to a Division Title and playoff win.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 12 October 2020, 13:45:13
Cleveland vs Pittsburg with stakes? is it 1981?

As far as football goes, everyone in my neck of the woods wishes it was:  those 49ers were dope.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 12 October 2020, 15:14:57
Hey, there’s a thought.  Dallas should bring Tebow in.  The NFC East may be even worse than the AFC West was when he took Denver to a Division Title and playoff win.

No one would mix up the 2020 Dallas defense with that Denver defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 13 October 2020, 07:04:48
Poor Dak. I think the Cowboys season is over.

On the other hand, I hope Jerry Jones trades for Trubisky so the Bears can have more picks in the draft.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 13 October 2020, 07:13:39
Poor Dak. I think the Cowboys season is over.

Well, luckily they chose a division where even the 0-5 Giants aren't out of it quite yet.

Quote
On the other hand, I hope Jerry Jones trades for Trubisky so the Bears can have more picks in the draft.

I've not heard that, but I have heard the possibility of Darnold if Dalton falls apart.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 13 October 2020, 10:56:49
Dalton is competent enough so I expect a few good weeks before everyone finds all the old film. Fortunately for the ‘boys it seems 8-8 is going to be good enough to win the division and I definitely think they can stumble into that with several games against absolutely putrid division opponents left... assuming their defense figures out that they’re supposed to actively oppose the other team
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 13 October 2020, 10:58:00
5-11 may be good enough to win the Least!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 13 October 2020, 17:23:22
Poor Dak.

If he never plays another game in the NFL he can live like a king for the rest of his life.

Poor isn't a descriptor I'd use.    ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 13 October 2020, 21:23:51
Cleveland vs Pittsburg with stakes? is it 1981?
CLE vs PIT was still a thing just into the 90's, as i recall (But don't quote me. i spent those years ether 6 hours ahead of EST or raising back forth to 6 hours ahead so i wasn't exactly current on events daily)....
 

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 15 October 2020, 18:54:55
bell to the chiefs. he'll have a 1000 yards from scrimmage by week 13  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 18 October 2020, 18:52:22
Football Team, "the only way to learn to win is to play to win."

Stop playing Kyle Allen Football Team.

Also, that wasn't an interception although I think highly of Kendall Fuller and they should have been flagged for delay of game on the last touchdown.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 19 October 2020, 08:15:24
Another ugly win by da Bears, but I'll take it. 5-1 is better than 1-5.  8)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 20 October 2020, 01:54:37
Andy Dalton being himself once again...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 October 2020, 07:05:38
To say he was robbed on that first interception is putting it mildly.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 October 2020, 07:41:27
Cowboys and top ten pick

Collision course
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 20 October 2020, 07:43:25
But they lead the division. If that stands, they will be blessed with a pick in the high teens, low 20s
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 October 2020, 08:07:14
Can’t even fail properly
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 20 October 2020, 10:37:18
Which has the best chance of happening:

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 20 October 2020, 10:52:28
Which has the best chance of happening:

  • The Jets going 0-16?
  • The NFC Least being won by a team with a losing record?
Both, of course.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sani_2341 on 20 October 2020, 10:59:59
Which has the best chance of happening:

  • The Jets going 0-16?
  • The NFC Least being won by a team with a losing record?

Does one stop the other from happening?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 October 2020, 11:19:25
Jets have the NFC West this year so they are not mutually influential


went back and looked at the schedules

wins for the J E T S look very unlikely. which means they'll win four after they fire gase and lose the first pick

in order for the cowboys to go 8-8 they have to go 6-4 in their final ten games. not impossible since they have two against the eagles and football team plus one more against the giants. also winnable games against minnesota and cincinnati

i'll go with the 'boys going 8-8 over a winless jets squad. it's REALLY hard to lose all the games
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 October 2020, 07:46:11
According to ESPN, it's likely to be Football Team again in 2021.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 October 2020, 07:48:34
Virginia trademark hoarder apparently drives a hard bargain

Also it’s Tua Time
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 21 October 2020, 19:41:06
According to ESPN, it's likely to be Football Team again in 2021.
Whoot, whoot, it is so stupid as to fit my feelings about the franchise well.  Earn your name dumbasses.

Speaking of which, I just pulled this from Twitter via the Tae & Todd Washington Football Podcast.

Dallas Rushing Defense - 31st
Washington Rushing Offense - 32nd

Dallas Defense Points Allowed - 32nd
Washington Offense Points Scored - 30th

What happens when a stoppable force meets a movable object?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 October 2020, 20:26:40
Bad football
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 21 October 2020, 20:31:14
Bad football
Go, Football Team!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 21 October 2020, 20:52:19
Go, Football Team!

Score all da points!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 22 October 2020, 16:40:17
I’m late to the party but I have to say: The Broncos best the Pats!?  What the what?  (And I say this as a Broncos fan.)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 October 2020, 16:59:28
Worst pats start in twenty years
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 22 October 2020, 17:22:28
Worst pats start in twenty years

And I'm loving every minute of it!

Anybody going to waste their time on tonight's NFC Least toilet bowl?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 22 October 2020, 17:36:50
I’m late to the party but I have to say: The Broncos best the Pats!?  What the what?  (And I say this as a Broncos fan.)
and in New England which has never happened before.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 23 October 2020, 05:47:13
I’m late to the party but I have to say: The Broncos best the Pats!?  What the what?  (And I say this as a Broncos fan.)
Without Tom Brady the Pats are just another team. In fact it puzzles me that they got Cam considering he was never that good in the first place.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 23 October 2020, 09:28:28
better than anything else you could get for a million bucks
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 23 October 2020, 13:25:01
So much for the Patriot's magic being Belichick's doing.  He's a great coach I'm sure, but Brady was the greater part of the brew.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 23 October 2020, 13:26:21
Ack!  I HATE praising Tom Brady! 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 23 October 2020, 14:16:33
Without Tom Brady the Pats are just another team. In fact it puzzles me that they got Cam considering he was never that good in the first place.

NFL MVP winner Cam Newton was never that good.  I'd say you heard it here first, but I've heard it before, and it was just as incorrect then.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 23 October 2020, 16:28:52
So much for the Patriot's magic being Belichick's doing.  He's a great coach I'm sure, but Brady was the greater part of the brew.
It’s too early to say that with confidence.  Give them another year or two to retool and see if they come right back up.  If they stay down, then maybe it was Brady after all.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 24 October 2020, 14:10:14
The saga refused to end: https://www.nfl.com/news/buccaneers-wr-antonio-brown-agree-to-one-year-deal (https://www.nfl.com/news/buccaneers-wr-antonio-brown-agree-to-one-year-deal)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 24 October 2020, 14:20:43
Tommy Boy’s idea probably. He was irked when they jettisoned AB from New England
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 25 October 2020, 21:42:09
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/can-you-believe-how-the-cleveland-browns-and-baker-mayfield-pulled-out-this-victory-terry-pluto/ar-BB1anJWP?ocid=msedgdhp

IDK anymore... i wanna a new QB... then he goes Super Saiyan (Pretty sure THAT happened sometime after OBJ got hurt)...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 25 October 2020, 21:57:04
Ohio Toilet Bowl II: Dirty Plunger Boogaloo
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 25 October 2020, 23:30:22
That nailbiter between the Seahawks and Cardinals, that was some excellent football and really a good watch.  Seahawks should have won in OT with that touchdown, but...he just gotta hold the jersey, so it came back.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 26 October 2020, 01:13:34
I honestly feel like Seattle has been overachieving their talent level all year so far.

There are a lot of games they really should have lost and there is still some serious weaknesses offensively and defensively.

So not terribly surprised that Arizona pulled that one off.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 26 October 2020, 09:50:13
cam's issue now is that he can't be a tailback in the same way he was with the panthers. he's never been an accurate passer in the way that's expected now. if injuries prevent him from being a similar threat on the ground to before the foot injury, the Pats are going to have to trot out the auburn kid pretty quick
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 26 October 2020, 14:16:59
TBOAT :D

https://sports.yahoo.com/brady-throws-four-touchdowns-lead-021017444.html

Brady has passed Brees as the all-time NFL leader in touchdown passes.
Granted it's only by 1, but still :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 26 October 2020, 14:53:41
cam's issue now is that he can't be a tailback in the same way he was with the panthers. he's never been an accurate passer in the way that's expected now. if injuries prevent him from being a similar threat on the ground to before the foot injury, the Pats are going to have to trot out the auburn kid pretty quick

Cam has been good in the past.  QB durability in the NFL has always been an issue, and if the injury gods hit you up with something that slows you down, that durability is going to adversely affect your quality.

I really liked Patrick Mahomes advice to the Chargers Herbert earlier this season "Ay, just stay away from those big hits. I learned early, you’ve got to stay away from them.” 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 October 2020, 17:03:04
Go Football Team!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 26 October 2020, 17:29:32
Cam has been good in the past.  QB durability in the NFL has always been an issue, and if the injury gods hit you up with something that slows you down, that durability is going to adversely affect your quality.

I really liked Patrick Mahomes advice to the Chargers Herbert earlier this season "Ay, just stay away from those big hits. I learned early, you’ve got to stay away from them.”

problem is he's never been a get out of the way runner. he's a freight train. lebron james running read option. i think that should have been implicitly understood from the outset - this cannot last, especially since his accuracy has not improved as he isn't able to run as much (carolina understood this and pulled the cord). the car accident plus the foot injury have made him a pedestrian runner and a disaster under center. the only reason he has a starting job is because he was signed for pennies on the dollar.

the bill/tom who's who face-off is a false dichotomy (even if those two treat it like someone has to "win"). precisely because of tom's greatness, the pats were able to field a bucket of spare parts at the skill positions for nearly two decades and spend money in other places (the defense). now that bucket of parts is catching balls from a quarterback at the current low point of his career.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 October 2020, 07:15:50
Go Football Team!

Only half a game out of first.  ???

Up-thread I joked 5-11 would be good enough to win the Least. It's increasingly looking like that might be an accurate prediction.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 27 October 2020, 09:01:33
they've won two (2) games against non-nfc east teams (and one was that wild game against the equally inept falcons)

i'm mostly hoping one of them can turn it around so we don't have six weeks of fakerage on sports radio about how a sub-.500 team shouldn't make the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 October 2020, 09:23:13
This season reminds me too much of 2015, where Dallas lost their QB and should have packed things in earlier but the East was so bad they were in it until the last few weeks. Ugh.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 27 October 2020, 09:25:46
that sound you hear in the background is miami calling off the hook to fleece jerry for FitzMagic
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 October 2020, 10:00:44
that sound you hear in the background is miami calling off the hook to fleece jerry for FitzMagic

The last 7th round pick to start multiple games as a rookie? C'mon, we've got the next one in Ben De Nucci!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 27 October 2020, 11:32:29
i sense a ryan lindley situation brewing (that cardinals quarterback about 8-10 years back who was potentially the worst at the position i've ever seen). obviously i want to see a de nucci-led circus because few things warm my heart more than repeated shots of a sullen, defeated jerry jones in his suite.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 October 2020, 11:34:27
Oh, the fun isn't just now. The Cowboys and Eagles have some tough salary cap decisions to make in the offseason, so the NFC East could be worse next year!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 27 October 2020, 11:37:15
that would be ideal because multiple years of a singularly putrid team making the playoffs over a ten win team simply on the balance of being the best of the most miserable group might actually get the nfl to change the rules
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 October 2020, 12:21:54
that would be ideal because multiple years of a singularly putrid team making the playoffs over a ten win team simply on the balance of being the best of the most miserable group might actually get the nfl to change the rules

 :stupid:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 October 2020, 10:01:35
that would be ideal because multiple years of a singularly putrid team making the playoffs over a ten win team simply on the balance of being the best of the most miserable group might actually get the nfl to change the rules
Yeah, but that would make the game worse. Why have divisions if winning the division doesn’t mean anything?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 28 October 2020, 10:35:23
Yeah, but that would make the game worse. Why have divisions if winning the division doesn’t mean anything?

 ???

Scheduling, just like now.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 October 2020, 10:59:23
Yeah, but that would make the game worse. Why have divisions if winning the division doesn’t mean anything?

because people want their rivalries. i'm generally ok with abolishing regional divisions in professional sports where travel costs are not a major concern
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 28 October 2020, 12:30:42
I remember watching a snippet a long while back, pretty sure it was on the Herd, where someone re-did the divisions to make it easier for fans to road trip then tail gate but kept a lot of the rivalries pretty well intact.

Might have to track it down again.

But yeah to me it should be possible to be rivals with someone without having to be in the same division and there should also not be anything against new rivalries developing due to a more sane restructuring of the divisions.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 October 2020, 13:22:48
Scheduling, just like now.

yeah. the NBA has divisions, but no one cares about them. occasionally you get some weirdness with records and winning a division swapping a 3 and 4 seed or something but it's nominally the eight best teams from east and west in the playoffs.

i was in college when my alma mater went from division 2 to what is now the FCS. our rival of a century did not so within a few years they did not play each other any more. after less than a decade the old rivalry had been completely replaced with a new one. football especially is fine without them - nfl games sweep tv ratings every week. even a turd of a Thursday night game out-performs every other show on television.

there is compelling evidence that west coast teams flying east suffer a competitive disadvantage, so i probably would split the league in half by east/west to reduce that as much as possible (though the pacific time zone teams really muck this up overall)

East/West football league

(these are purely geographically split)
EAST:
Pats
Jets
Giants
Bills
Eagles
Steelers
Browns
Bengals
Ravens
Football Team
Panthers
Falcons
Jaguars
Bucks
Fins
Lions (detroit is farther east than atlanta. yeah, that surprised me too)

WEST:
Seahawks
Niners
Rams
Chargers
Raiders
Cardinals
Broncos
Cowboys
Texans
Chiefs
Vikings
Packers
Bears
Titans
Saints
Colts

six games - home and home with three teams in your quadrant ranking from the previous season (eg if you finished 6th in the west, you play the 5th, 7th, and 8th place western teams from last year)

six games - play six additional games against conference teams (six of the twelve other teams in your conference, three others from the top 8 of the previous year's standings, three from the bottom 8)

four games - play four teams from the opposite conference

17th game - randomized pairing, any team in the league you're not already playing (it's fun!)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 28 October 2020, 13:56:53
The Pacific Time Zone mucks everything up.  It is our right to do so!  (Niners fan here)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 October 2020, 14:01:46
the geography is just so funny to me. it's like the teams' placement was planned from east to west via fibonacci sequence
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 October 2020, 15:32:38
that would be ideal because multiple years of a singularly putrid team making the playoffs over a ten win team simply on the balance of being the best of the most miserable group might actually get the nfl to change the rules

I'm pretty sure the 3rd Wild Card will get rid of that.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 October 2020, 15:45:22
is that a permanent fixture?

the playoffs should be treated like that progressive commercial where the guy asks flo if he can have sprinkles on his ice cream cone and flo shuts him down with "sprinkles are for winners" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7FRhGCOaAE)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/92/40/0c924023258a31e89c2d449ed96336c1.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 28 October 2020, 15:57:21
It's permanent until it stops making money, so yes it's permanent.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 28 October 2020, 16:32:02
is that a permanent fixture?

the playoffs should be treated like that progressive commercial where the guy asks flo if he can have sprinkles on his ice cream cone and flo shuts him down with "sprinkles are for winners" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7FRhGCOaAE)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/92/40/0c924023258a31e89c2d449ed96336c1.jpg)


Then Washington needs to trade this guy:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg/512px-Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg) (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 October 2020, 17:00:00
It's permanent until it stops making money, so yes it's permanent.

i wasn't sure if it was a covid year thing or not

yes, that will make money forever


Then Washington needs to trade this guy:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg/512px-Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg) (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jeremy_sprinkle_2017.jpg)

poor dude. no one deserves that
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 October 2020, 19:53:07
Only half a game out of first.  ???

Up-thread I joked 5-11 would be good enough to win the Least. It's increasingly looking like that might be an accurate prediction.  ;D
It's so stupid that it's funny.  I'm all for it.  Washington has been so bad for so long that it is a nice change.  I can watch out of amusement and not be angry.  I suspect some credit can go to the Caps and Nats but the shift in tone locally from the organization has been welcome to me at least.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 01 November 2020, 17:51:56
Not sure what I did to offend the football gods but my current options are NO@CHI or LAC@DEN

woof
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 01 November 2020, 23:36:54
LAC@DEN ended up being entertaining despite looking pretty pukey for most of it

that PHI@DAL game was a fitting performance for control of the nfl's septic tank
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 01 November 2020, 23:47:26
I watched most of the LAR@Miami game and man did Miami just seem to have LAR's number.

SF@Seattle was also largely a good game.  For most of it Seattle seemed to actually know how to play defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 02 November 2020, 08:16:53
I watched most of the LAR@Miami game and man did Miami just seem to have LAR's number.

SF@Seattle was also largely a good game.  For most of it Seattle seemed to actually know how to play defense.
So did LAS yesterday. It's starting to look (since the view changes weekly) for CLE 8-8...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 November 2020, 15:53:14
Awww, Ben DiNucci is going back to the bench.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 04 November 2020, 16:29:31
So who's starting then? Dalton is still out AFAIK
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 November 2020, 16:34:07
he had that one throw where he whipped it well under sidearm down the sideline on a rope. it's a pity the receiver was running out of bounds (mahomes would have had a guy there waiting for the ball).

love that one of their options is a guy with no linked bio on espn

So who's starting then? Dalton is still out AFAIK

a sixth year clipboard specialist out of SMU and a kid from central michigan. so that should go well.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 06 November 2020, 01:09:49
packers confirmed bullies. their last eight look very favorable

JAX
@IND
CHI
PHI
@DET
CAR
TEN
@CHI

at colts and titans are the toughest two games. with a crowd at bears would be a much more difficult game. they have a good shot at 6-2. 12-4 or even 11-5 should handily win the division, especially if they sweep the bears.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 08 November 2020, 00:29:49
packers confirmed bullies. their last eight look very favorable

JAX
@IND
CHI
PHI
@DET
CAR
TEN
@CHI

at colts and titans are the toughest two games. with a crowd at bears would be a much more difficult game. they have a good shot at 6-2. 12-4 or even 11-5 should handily win the division, especially if they sweep the bears.

The real question is, who can best them from the NFC? The Saints and Bucs are good, but have demonstrated some very poor games at times this season. 49ers and Rams are not the teams that they were, leaving Seattle as the main contender with an atrocious secondary. And of course, forget the East.

Not to say that their path is guaranteed, but the NFC looks to have few contenders compared to the cavalcade of AFC teams looking to win it all.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 08 November 2020, 00:42:11
the bucks are good - #1 in overall DVOA per football outsiders. the defense is good (#1). even before AB their offense was pretty lethal (#6). they have the #2 point differential in the league after the flying mahomeses. their worst game of the year was week 1. if brown gives them an extra dimension and stays clean enough to not get cut, they're going to mess people up.

the seahawks are also Very Good. they have one loss and that's to the second place team in their division. wilson would be on track for MVP except mahomes has a 21-1 TD-INT ratio in their new relatively conservative offense (lol). if the playoffs started today the seahawks would get a bye.

rams and cardinals are also good teams. even the bears are going to give the pack trouble in at least one of their head to head games. the packers lost to the semi-putrid vikings at lambeau so it's not like they're untouchable. the playoffs should be pretty entertaining overall. lots of really talented teams.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 08 November 2020, 18:32:08
Fair enough. We'll see how the NFC South comes out tonight. Very excited to see Michael Thomas playing again.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 08 November 2020, 20:17:15
Go Football Team...play both halves and hang on to the ball.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 09 November 2020, 13:24:47
espn must be happy they paid a billion for monday night football to get

NE(-10)@NYJ
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 09 November 2020, 13:31:01
I watched just enough of the Saints Bucs game to see just how lopsided it really was.  I mean yeah the score gives a really good idea but actually watching it was just another level.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 09 November 2020, 13:33:17
drew brees announcing rumors of his demise are greatly exaggerated
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 09 November 2020, 13:36:13
That Saints-Bucs game was highly enjoyable. Savoured every moment.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 November 2020, 15:06:48
espn must be happy they paid a billion for monday night football to get

NE(-10)@NYJ

As much as I'd like to see the Jets go 0-16, I'd like to see them beat the Deflatriots even more.  >:D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 09 November 2020, 15:16:12
My wife and I are both behind in our respective fantasy football match-ups, but since I have a Patriot running back and she has their defense, we have a shot, because...Jets.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 09 November 2020, 15:44:42
i'd also like to throw in that i am FURIOUS that the ari@mia game wasn't on locally here. in tangential news, that's the first time those words have ever been put together in english.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Arkansas Warrior on 10 November 2020, 00:11:37
espn must be happy they paid a billion for monday night football to get

NE(-10)@NYJ
Pretty good game, as it turns out.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 10 November 2020, 02:10:28
if it's got a 20% chance of being good, the d10 still gives you a 1 or 2 occasionally. it's a testament to how far the pats have fallen that they found themselves in a competitive game with a team trotting out flacco and frank gore
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 10 November 2020, 08:54:18
if it's got a 20% chance of being good, the d10 still gives you a 1 or 2 occasionally. it's a testament to how far the pats have fallen that they found themselves in a competitive game with a team trotting out flacco and frank gore

That's a pretty good backfield for 2010....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 15 November 2020, 19:16:30
Football Team:  All Bad!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 15 November 2020, 20:00:58
I was a little puzzled as to Seattle’s struggles. But it didn’t take an advanced metrics deep dive. Wilson is responsible for ten turnovers in the last four games. Not a recipe for success

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 16 November 2020, 01:13:18
Nick Chubb for President!! https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/jim-donovan-cleveland-browns-houston-texans/95-ceacd1b0-4c93-43b0-ae4d-c48ea22197d9

Actually that was pretty savvy for him to step out of bounds at the 1-yard line to win smartly.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 16 November 2020, 17:05:20
I was a little puzzled as to Seattle’s struggles. But it didn’t take an advanced metrics deep dive. Wilson is responsible for ten turnovers in the last four games. Not a recipe for success

Yeah Russ is getting sloppy/greedy.  I can understand why and defend it a bit but there is definately some blame to go his way too in all this despite how much he's been balling out until now.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 17 November 2020, 04:54:19
Well, there goes the Bears season, down the drain again. everybody needs to be fired.  :ticked:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 19 November 2020, 10:37:13
decent matchup with real playoff implications tonight. and it's on a channel i can actually watch  :o
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 November 2020, 16:19:54
And the Cleveland Browns are 7-3.

2020 will never end.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 22 November 2020, 16:36:13
And the Cleveland Browns are 7-3.

2020 will never end.

And they just passed the Ravens in the standings.

The playoffs are actually a possibility.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2020, 17:29:56
Who the hell is PJ Walker?

Ask the Lions.  They know.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 November 2020, 17:49:06
Some Vikings wearing those obnoxious gold sneakers so it looks like there are a half dozen flags on every play
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 November 2020, 19:08:36
Some Vikings wearing those obnoxious gold sneakers so it looks like there are a half dozen flags on every play
Thrown by the fashion police no less.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 22 November 2020, 19:44:50
Go Football Team!  The Least is awfully tight these days!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 November 2020, 19:48:08
This Packers/Colts game is never going to end.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 November 2020, 20:07:12
Pleased the cowboys came back and won for the sole reason that the division standings are now

PHI 3-6-1
NYG 3-7
DAL 3-7
WAS 3-7


Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 November 2020, 20:14:22
I feel sorry for the Iggles, that tie is the only reason they're not tied for last place in the division.  Also, go Football Team!

Time for KC/Vegas; glad I'm seeing this game before I move back there.  Makes rooting for the Chiefs easier.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 22 November 2020, 23:07:42
And the Cleveland Browns are 7-3.

2020 will never end.

I'll admit, i wasn't expecting a win because of the number of toons on the Zombie List. I'm actually nervous (Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!)...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 23 November 2020, 08:32:58
Some Vikings wearing those obnoxious gold sneakers so it looks like there are a half dozen flags on every play

One fell off and convinced the broadcast crew there was a flag for a bit.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 26 November 2020, 19:53:53
 :o

Go Football Team!

First place. With four wins. On Thanksgiving. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 26 November 2020, 20:13:34
They certainly pulled away at the end

The cowboys going for it twice deep in their own end might be a fireable offense (especially that atrocious fake punt)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 November 2020, 20:13:45
That first game definitely felt appropriate for Turkey Day
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 26 November 2020, 21:36:44
FOOTBALL TEAM!!!!

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DEZOAT on 27 November 2020, 05:05:41
 :brew: Well what do you expect from SFH the new owner of Detroit Lion. I love the picture of SFH with her hand to the face when the Lion drop pass in the fourth Q. I know Matt and Bob are gone after this season ,I'll be surprise if she fire them both today. I doubt it. I know everyone talking about the Lion on radio right now about how bad they have been, its been very long time . I know they are cursed. Why you should say they are cursed. Bill Ford got full control of the Detroit Lion on November 22 1963  :o . What happen on that date everyone. Later from a burn out Detroit Lion fan from 1995.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DEZOAT on 28 November 2020, 16:17:21
 :o WOW!!! SFH just fired Matt and Bob of the Detroit Lion . Now I'am surprise. Well we shell see what she will do now and she going to hire in there place.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 28 November 2020, 17:53:35
I like the moves, firing both Bob Q. and Matt P. WILL shake things up for sure.  Not sure it will do anything right away, but it will change the future we're headed toward.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Nibs on 28 November 2020, 23:58:27
Denver is starting a receiver at quarterback tomorrow!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 November 2020, 00:01:54
It appears they do that or forfeit. If I’m a top team I’m putting my QB in a panic room that only opens on Sunday’s

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 November 2020, 01:46:54
Denver is starting a receiver at quarterback tomorrow!  ;D
Kendall Hinton. Remember that name as he will have a glorious game  :o  :D ;D  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 November 2020, 11:19:24
it gets better

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30413697/sources-denver-broncos-bid-start-assistant-coach-qb-denied-league
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Gigastrike on 29 November 2020, 12:52:25
it gets better

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30413697/sources-denver-broncos-bid-start-assistant-coach-qb-denied-league

At least that game is happening.  The Ravens might get shut down at this rate.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 29 November 2020, 17:19:22
That last third of the Raiders-Falcons game...youch.  That hurt.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 29 November 2020, 23:08:53
Someone explain why CLE should keep Mayfield, as opposed to shop for a QB in the draft next season? I found it humorous to hear in mention suggestions of hiring Dorsey as a GM for any of the 4 currently available slots... and Baker was Dorsey's pick. we're 8 & 3 for the first time in forever but i actually want a QB who actually Can QB...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 29 November 2020, 23:17:58
You're 8 and 3 and your first instinct as a Browns fan is to.... blame the quarterback for holding you back? ???
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 29 November 2020, 23:31:33
It is the Browns.  They're not allowed anything nice.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 29 November 2020, 23:42:40
Someone explain why CLE should keep Mayfield, as opposed to shop for a QB in the draft next season? I found it humorous to hear in mention suggestions of hiring Dorsey as a GM for any of the 4 currently available slots... and Baker was Dorsey's pick. we're 8 & 3 for the first time in forever but i actually want a QB who actually Can QB...

who are the replacement options? they've gone and had a decent season so they'll have to mortgage a pile of picks to trade up
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 30 November 2020, 01:25:54
That last third of the Raiders-Falcons game...youch.  That hurt.
Where has that Falcons team been all season?

They usually loose a big lead in the end of the game.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 06 December 2020, 19:13:54
Seattle did so close to what I expected today it was not funny.

How much New York really dominated that game is not reflected in the final score.

And yeah I think Russ is cooked after having to carry the team for so long.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 December 2020, 19:40:21
Last two minutes of the Lions game was worth every second of that game.  Never give up!

Also Cleveland is 9-3 on the season, what planet am I on?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 06 December 2020, 21:29:55
1994. bill is the coach. you are very happy to be getting a 33.6k modem for christmas
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 06 December 2020, 21:34:41
Lions' new coach is undefeated!  Boo ya! 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 06 December 2020, 22:09:55
1994. bill is the coach. you are very happy to be getting a 33.6k modem for christmas

I need therapy, badly. I'm still distrustful of BM but... we have a winning record since... holy crap (and to add to my phobia? BM had like 4 TDs in a half, something not done since Otto Gramm? 

If Coach Ski does not get CotY, he will be the first runner up at the very least. That guy, is amazing (so far).

Last two minutes of the Lions game was worth every second of that game.  Never give up!

Also Cleveland is 9-3 on the season, what planet am I on?

I have to give credit to the Titans on their come-back-almost. A few things going their way and the roles reverse. They did not die at the half.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 December 2020, 22:14:22
1994. bill is the coach. you are very happy to be getting a 33.6k modem for christmas
Y'know, you're not wrong.

Meanwhile I've never seen a receiver give up a touchdown like poor Tyreek Hill...that's gotta smart when he saw the video and realized the ball never hit the ground.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 06 December 2020, 22:35:45
Y'know, you're not wrong.

Meanwhile I've never seen a receiver give up a touchdown like poor Tyreek Hill...that's gotta smart when he saw the video and realized the ball never hit the ground.

I 100000% blame the refs for ****** this up.  It is literally your entire job to rule that as a TD on the field and then review it.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 07 December 2020, 00:09:16
In all fairness to the refs, even the broadcasters thought that was an incomplete pass and didn't notice it until they started seeing other views, and by then the ball was already snapped for the kick.  I agree the refs should have called that better, but it's pretty convincing when even the receiver basically tells you "nope, I dropped that ball."

That TD and the one called back for holding hurt; that should have been another 11 points.  Ugly win, but a win.

Time for Monday Night Football, followed by Tuesday Night Football...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 07 December 2020, 13:43:54
It doesn't look good for Wentz right now....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 07 December 2020, 19:57:28
I don't care how this football game ends:  GO FOOTBALL TEAM!

Also, TJ Watt lines up in the neutral zone nearly every play.  I do like him on Ultimate Tag, though.

EDIT:  HA HA, suck it Yinzers!  (please note that as I was a freshman at Carnegie Mellon when Washington last won in Pittsburgh I feel well within my rights to taunt the locals as their team goes deep in the playoffs)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 08 December 2020, 13:06:34
It doesn't look good for Wentz right now....

What a fall. A few years ago he looked to be one of the bright young franchise QBs, now he's the sixth rated (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nfl-predictions/quarterbacks/?ex_cid=endlink) active QB in the underwhelming NFC East.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 08 December 2020, 13:11:25
he played at ndsu (my alma mater) so I watched pretty much every one of his games when he was in college. he was injury-prone then as now... ironically his draft status was helped by basically missing his entire senior season and riding into the fcs championship like the lone ranger. that ACL tear vs the rams was the inevitable outcome, unfortunately.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 13 December 2020, 19:07:01
That Jets Seahawks game...

Ouch.  I don't want to read into it too much because it is the Jets but still it made me wish there was a mercy rule.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 13 December 2020, 20:50:45
GO FOOTBALL TEAM!

QB situation could be a problem.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 13 December 2020, 22:54:03
Lions lose.  Green Bay clinches the NFC North.

This is rebs' complete lack of shock.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 December 2020, 13:03:57
GO FOOTBALL TEAM!

QB situation could be a problem.

That's par for the division, along with suspect offensive line.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 December 2020, 21:40:00
Sad to hear the Jets broke their perfect season...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 20 December 2020, 23:34:43
And drop to the #2 pick
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 21 December 2020, 01:39:42
and CLE is still in it (10-4). At least the Jets no longer have as much incentive next week...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 21 December 2020, 07:21:26
FOOTBALL TEAM!  Plays less and less of a full game each week.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 21 December 2020, 11:16:23
Oh so Trubisky wins a couple of games  (and against bad teams I might add), and now the Bears fans want him to stay? I cant believe this.  ???
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 21 December 2020, 20:16:22
Well they're football fans.  Most don't look deeper than if their team won or lost.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 21 December 2020, 21:35:34
it's one thing to demand to toss the bums out. it's another thing to avoid just picking another bum
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 22 December 2020, 00:01:47
Sad to hear the Jets broke their perfect season...
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

and the Pats are out of the playoff for the 1st time since 08..
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 December 2020, 00:02:56
it should be noted that the browns can go 11-5 and still miss the playoffs with an expanded field

that would be maximum browns
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 22 December 2020, 01:33:42
it should be noted that the browns can go 11-5 and still miss the playoffs with an expanded field

that would be maximum browns
and a complete injustice IMO. Or they could win out and win the division if the Steelers continue their losing streak
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 December 2020, 01:45:22
winning the division seemed unlikely about twenty days ago but it is obviously now very much in play
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Gigastrike on 22 December 2020, 06:12:12
'Member back in the fall when the Steelers were good?  I miss those days.  :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 22 December 2020, 10:08:48
'Member back in the fall when the Steelers were good?  I miss those days.  :'(

One: I'm a %$#^ing worry wart because of of 30+ years of NOT knowing excitement to the degree of Kosar and Ozzy Newsome.

Two: Baker... has finally earned my seal of approval (but still gonna buy the Punter's shirt # because).

Three: PIT 11-5, BAL 11-5, CLE 11-5?

Four: Jets Game is must win for play offs, i thought?

Five: Explain how CLE can go 11-5 (and still miss a berth)?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 22 December 2020, 10:19:40
7 AFC teams in
Colts (12-4), Ravens (11-5), Fins (11-5) win out
Cleveland could drop to #8 based on an arcane combination of tie breakers
Cleveland misses the playoffs

unlikely but not strictly impossible
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: battleman033 on 22 December 2020, 19:59:47
Steelers being good is seen as a throwback. That is enough for me to fall in depression. We will see what this season and the year 2021 will bring. Hope for something interesting because the NFL needs it.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 23 December 2020, 00:38:57
I'm still laughing about the commentator's unintentional line about the planets aligning to bring the Bengals victory, and finding out after the commercial break that that was precisely what happened.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 23 December 2020, 00:53:31
Steelers being good is seen as a throwback.

Well they're sure as hell not good right now, what more do you need to qualify? ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Gigastrike on 23 December 2020, 08:51:28
I'm still laughing about the commentator's unintentional line about the planets aligning to bring the Bengals victory, and finding out after the commercial break that that was precisely what happened.

Oh, so the Steelers aren't bad.  It's just space magic.

Good to know.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 December 2020, 20:45:28
Well.

Alvin. ******. Kamara.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 26 December 2020, 10:23:31
Your fantasy opponent this week had him?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 26 December 2020, 10:38:08
I haven’t done fantasy in years but this feels like championship week
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 26 December 2020, 12:03:50
It is and I'm happy to see that my opponents in the two leagues I'm in did not have Kamara on thier respective rosters. In the leagues I'm in, he scored 54.7 points. That's nearly half of my average weekly total.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 27 December 2020, 09:33:01
I'm officially worried. I went to bed with the Raiders leading with that Field Goal.... and now, IDK who the hell is gonna be grabbing balls today for Baker...

https://www.radio.com/923thefan/sports/dolphins-stun-raiders-26-25-to-move-step-closer-to-playoffs

https://www.radio.com/923thefan/sports/cleveland-browns/cleveland-browns-at-new-york-jets-preview

Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 December 2020, 10:59:21
Hey, it only took 16 weeks for one of the NFC East teams to get eliminated. Now the rest get to decide: top-10 draft pick or playoffs?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 28 December 2020, 11:14:06
J E T S
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 December 2020, 13:30:03
It's official. The NFC Least will be won by a team with a losing record.    :toofunny:

Meanwhile, teams in real divisions with ten wins will miss the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 28 December 2020, 14:09:10
FOOTBALL TEAM: taking culture change one step forward and two steps back just like always.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 28 December 2020, 14:32:18
Dwayne Haskins cut by Washington after what we'll charitably call a subpar week on and off the field.

Staggering. How does that franchise continue to stick their feet in this kind of thing?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 December 2020, 14:37:30
Dwayne Haskins cut by Washington after what we'll charitably call a subpar week on and off the field.

Staggering. How does that franchise continue to stick their feet in this kind of thing?

An owner with the attention span of a goldfish?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 28 December 2020, 15:09:57
An owner with the attention span of a goldfish?

Hey, that's insulting to goldfish!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 30 December 2020, 03:42:23
I guess some of the debate about if Patriot's success was all Brady or Evil Bill can be shelfed.

It's pretty clear that Brady is exceptional - his stats this year is some of his best of his career.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 January 2021, 01:33:05
that was the most fitting end for the NFC East
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 04 January 2021, 01:54:05
Don't care what Pederson says, he tanked it. If only to piss off the Giants.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 04 January 2021, 07:52:06
The FOOTBALL TEAM has never failed to make the playoffs!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 January 2021, 08:56:24
The FOOTBALL TEAM has never failed to make the playoffs!

That claim doesn't count if it only occurs in years that Cleveland makes the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 January 2021, 09:31:45
Don't care what Pederson says, he tanked it. If only to piss off the Giants.

"I was playing to win by sending in a QB literally no one but his mom had heard of before this"
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 04 January 2021, 09:42:19
I beleive that Sudfeld has played at least one game in each of the last three seasons, mainly due to injuries  to Wentz/Foles and whomever the backup was at the time.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 04 January 2021, 12:00:56
there are few people more anonymous in sports than the itinerant backup qb

if they come in the game, that's Very Bad
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 05 January 2021, 10:49:26
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30652624/joe-judge-reacts-philadelphia-eagles-effort-snf-says-new-york-giants-never-disrespect-game

today's special flavor in new york: salt
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 05 January 2021, 11:19:18
That will be the last laugh the Eagles get for a while. It's gonna be a rough off season.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 06 January 2021, 11:11:21
trevor lawrence declares for the draft... the minute he knew he didn't have to play for the jets
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 09 January 2021, 23:33:44
FOOTBALL TEAM!!!!!  Bummer on the playoff loss but a pretty decent future looks to be in the offing.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 10 January 2021, 01:33:49
I'll say it.  Russ is cooked.

Plus I saw a hit by a Rams player that was obviously late and I'm pretty sure on someone who was out of bounds that really should have gotten a personal foul flag it was that late and the receiver didn't even have the ball.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 10 January 2021, 23:37:06
CLE..... Clowns. No. More.

this victory over PIT is literally the first in eons.... and it's delicious!!!!!

Now i have no reservations on next week. But it's unbelievable to reach it... :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 11 January 2021, 00:24:51
I tuned in late and was completely shocked to see it 28-0 in the first quarter.  I take back everything I've said about the Browns, they're definitely taking names this time around. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 00:51:41
felt like the steelers had a marginal chance at the beginning of the 4th. they were down 13 and had the ball on their own 40. instead of going for it on 4th an 1 they punted and the browns scored on the next drive.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 11 January 2021, 02:24:44
I'm not a Browns fan, but it's good to see one of the most moribund franchises in sports get a shining moment at last. What a first quarter!

I however loathe Ben Roethlisberger, and seeing him throw four picks and be miserable on the bench at the end warmed my evil little heart. May this be his finale, going out via an upset of his own making against a team that by all rights he's owned more than Haslam himself has owned the Browns over the past couple of decades. If that's the last image we get of him on an NFL field, I'm quite content with that outcome.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 11 January 2021, 09:31:23
Congrats Browns!  I'm sorry you have to come to KC next week.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 January 2021, 11:26:50
Browns 38, KC 35 on last second field goal by Cody Parkey. Just a wild assed prediction from a Broncos fan.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 11:42:23
pretty good slate of games next weekend

LAR@GB
BAL@BUF
CLE@KC
TB@NO

my very early KC vs GB super bowl pick still lives
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 January 2021, 12:31:49
I'll be mildly upset if Brady makes it to the SB again.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 11 January 2021, 13:06:43
I'll be mildly upset if Brady makes it to the SB again.

Better Brady in a new setting with a new club than the 'Brady, Belichick and the Pats AGAIN.'
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sharpnel on 11 January 2021, 13:13:51
True Dat
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 11 January 2021, 14:13:14
Congrats Browns!  I'm sorry you have to come to KC next week.

My thoughts were similar.  Browns showed up and were ready to play--more than I can say for the Steelers.  Now they get to be tested against the very best the NFL has to offer.  Ouch.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 11 January 2021, 14:33:14
I don't think improving the Eagle's draft position is going to do much for Doug Peterson now....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 14:39:04
he who leads the team into and through the muck rarely gets to lead them out
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 11 January 2021, 15:40:25
I'm cheering on the Buccs.
Would be great to see Brady vs Drew, then Brady vs Rodges, then finally Brady vs Mahones :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 11 January 2021, 15:42:21
I'm cheering on the Buccs.
Would be great to see Brady vs Drew, then Brady vs Rodges, then finally Brady vs Mahones :D

What about Brady vs. the Pats...oh....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 11 January 2021, 15:51:00
he who leads the team into and through the muck rarely gets to lead them out

For all the folks who thought Carson Wentz was the future....you had a guy that out-dueled Tom Fricking Brady in a SUPER BOWL.  You had a winner.  Now you've got nothing.  Hindsight is 20/20, but you shoulda thought a bit harder on this one.....
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 16:01:17
nick doesn't really have much to show for the last couple years either. he's another second-tier journeyman that had a legendary hot streak
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 11 January 2021, 16:45:43
he's another second-tier journeyman that had a legendary hot streak

That kind of sounds like Wentz.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 17:03:24
especially this past year, yeah. but at the time, you had a mvp contender coming off of an injury whose long-term best was better than a few year stopgap was going to be able to provide. drafting quarterbacks is hard
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 11 January 2021, 18:23:56
especially this past year, yeah. but at the time, you had a mvp contender coming off of an injury whose long-term best was better than a few year stopgap was going to be able to provide. drafting quarterbacks is hard

I get the conventional wisdom, it makes sense too.  You just hate to see a team move away from a proven big stage winner.  The hourglass isn't empty for Carson Wentz, but there is no guarantee he'll even make it to the stage again.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 11 January 2021, 18:33:55
contract. they would have had to match the jag's $88m offer. i'm not intimately familiar with the eagles' cap situation that year but wentz would have still be under contract and you can't pay two qbs that money. trading would have brought poor value
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 17 January 2021, 10:03:56
So the Bears dont fire anybody and expect fans to just swallow their ridiculous excuses? Thats it. Im not even gonna bother watching next season.  :ticked:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 17 January 2021, 17:30:08
They Mahomey is officially concussed
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 17 January 2021, 18:02:17
Ouch.

This has a lot of implications now.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 17 January 2021, 18:06:34
And Kansas gamble and grab the win with a 4th down convertion :D
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 17 January 2021, 18:12:37
That was a tough one for me.

Part of me wanted the Browns to pull off the upset(three times) and win it all just so I could watch certain talking heads explode but it is the Browns and they're not allowed anything nice.

Now I have to root for the Saints.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 17 January 2021, 18:32:22
And Kansas gamble and grab the win with a 4th down convertion :D

Really well-designed speed option. Let no one say Andy Reid is bad at coaching
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: ThePW on 18 January 2021, 00:22:44
*sigh* That Fumble is literally this decade's Ernest Byner moment... Oh well. It wasn't like i thought it would be a cake walk (although i was surprised: I'm sure everything though the Chiefs would have scored twice as much as they did). That fumble was literally the difference...
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 18 January 2021, 01:17:58
Go Buccs!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Gigastrike on 18 January 2021, 11:28:37
That was a tough one for me.

Part of me wanted the Browns to pull off the upset(three times) and win it all just so I could watch certain talking heads explode but it is the Browns and they're not allowed anything nice.

Now I have to root for the Saints.

Hey, do me a favor and root for the Buccaneers.

That concussion is going to screw everything up.  The Chiefs won, but at what cost?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: monbvol on 18 January 2021, 11:40:48
Hey, do me a favor and root for the Buccaneers.

That concussion is going to screw everything up.  The Chiefs won, but at what cost?

The trouble is if I do that they'll win just to spite us.

By the same token I still can't root for the Packers.

Only safe option is to not root for anyone.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 18 January 2021, 11:44:37
depends on if he can pass protocol before the game.

i was really confused about how he ran that play. oldschool option calls for the quarterback to be decisive one way or the other (watch how Navy runs it) and he kind of meandered out toward the sideline. if he was going to take it that casually, he should have pitched the ball - i was certain he was going to. turning yourself into a target when you're standing straight up and down like that is no way to live life.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Gigastrike on 18 January 2021, 12:26:59
Seems like Patrick Mahomes never had a concussion in the first place, and just had a pinched nerve or something.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: I am Belch II on 18 January 2021, 13:43:43
I think its going to be the State Farm Superbowl with KC and GB going for the big prize
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 January 2021, 14:01:44
I think its going to be the State Farm Superbowl with KC and GB going for the big prize

Who will Jake root for? Will Jim Harbaugh lend his khaki-legged support?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 18 January 2021, 18:27:15
I think its going to be the State Farm Superbowl with KC and GB going for the big prize

If Mahomes can play all 4 quarters, I'm inclined to agree.  Buffalo is surprisingly good this year, but I think KC has all the tools to win it all.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 19 January 2021, 13:03:23
Seems like Patrick Mahomes never had a concussion in the first place, and just had a pinched nerve or something.
He's still on concussion protocols, so we'll see if he plays.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 19 January 2021, 13:14:59
the bills were 12th in defensive DVOA, which is in the Good Enough range to win it all. they probably have a much better shot at winning a 27-22 game than if they have to score 35+ as putting josh allen in too many positions to be josh allen isn't necessarily a good thing. he's made largely unprecedented progress as a thrower, but it only takes one bad quarter to end a season.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 19 January 2021, 13:51:00
He's still on concussion protocols, so we'll see if he plays.

If he clears protocols, the next question is if he is 100%.  I know most clubs would play a Mahomes if he was 80%, but a pinched nerve in the neck could definitely mess up his timing, passing strength, and all the things that make him the beast that he is.  Does Mahomes at 80% beat the Bills?  No idea. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 19 January 2021, 15:23:22
definitely the wild card. if i sleep the wrong way i can't turn my neck completely to the side for a couple hours. if that's a complication, i put the number of needles injected in his neck before the game a +/- 2.5
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: DOC_Agren on 19 January 2021, 19:29:34
So which is the better story for the Super Bowl

Mahomes vrs Brady?
The Bills vrs Brady?
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 19 January 2021, 19:32:22
The best super bowl story is where Brady watches from home
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Fat Guy on 20 January 2021, 05:12:24
The best super bowl story is where Brady watches from home

 :stupid:
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 20 January 2021, 10:58:07
The best super bowl story is where Brady watches from home

Agree.  I wouldn't bet against the Packers this year, Aaron Rodgers playing with a chip on his shoulder because they drafted that QB from Utah State, Jordan Love (I think).  Then again, I think we all know, that in the playoffs, Brady's gonna Brady.  And that is scary to watch.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 20 January 2021, 11:27:08
So which is the better story for the Super Bowl

Mahomes vrs Brady?
The Bills vrs Brady?

Mahomes vs Brady :)
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 24 January 2021, 16:15:52
End of an era in Detroit.  Matthew Stafford and the Lions agree to go separate ways.  He is officially on the trading block.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 24 January 2021, 18:19:50
Woohoo, a soso second half for Brady, but they clinched the win so yay!

GOAT is going to the Supah-bowl!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 24 January 2021, 19:43:12
Three interceptions is not so so-so. Their only second half TD came off a fumble resulting in the shortest of fields. That combined with the absolute brainfart by king in coverage before the half was the balance

Amusingly, short field drives off turnovers was how I heard TB would need to win the game so good call there.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 24 January 2021, 19:51:30
Every time I turn on a chiefs game I see mahomes do something absolutely ridiculous within ten offensive plays
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 24 January 2021, 20:39:26
That doesn't seem right.  The rest of us are experiencing some brand of pure bullshit every eight or so plays.

Pays to be a Chiefs fan lately.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 24 January 2021, 21:35:46
as an outsider, i'm sure my analytics are off

my favorite thing in this game was on this last drive where they went up 38-15. on third and goal the chiefs come up to the line and you hear buffalo's mike linebacker yell "FIFTEEN! FIFTEEN!" yeah no shit that's mahomes. i too assume he will be central to this play
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: rebs on 24 January 2021, 22:20:57
KC has one hell of a team.  The goat has his work cut out for him, even if he is at home. 

Soooo...  Chiefs 41 Bucs 28
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Triptych on 25 January 2021, 00:51:56
Packers lose.... woohoo!

And Tom Brady is ageless!  :o
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 25 January 2021, 01:37:17
I dunno 3 INTs seems pretty aged to me.  It took one of the most cowardly coaching decisions of all time to really end the Packers' momentum.  Brady doesn't play defense or coach for the opposing team, last I checked.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Øystein on 25 January 2021, 02:07:29
It should hopefully be an funpacked Superbowl. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 25 January 2021, 16:18:20
"Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers have now one the same number of NFC championship games"
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 25 January 2021, 16:42:54
"Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers have now won the same number of NFC championship games"

I saw a meme that brought that up...along with Drew Brees and Rex Grossman.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: MarauderD on 25 January 2021, 17:15:30
I dunno 3 INTs seems pretty aged to me.  It took one of the most cowardly coaching decisions of all time to really end the Packers' momentum.  Brady doesn't play defense or coach for the opposing team, last I checked.

Agreed.  Tom Brady's second half looked really bad, and the Packers didn't have near the defensive pass rush that the Bucs brought.

Turns out you can't give up a 14 point swing in the NFL playoffs. 
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 25 January 2021, 17:35:02
I saw a meme that brought that up...along with Drew Brees and Rex Grossman.

oh my god rex grossman. now i'm going to have to waddle over to pro football reference and look up trent green's 2000 and brad johnson's 2002 stats in comparison 

mayfield knocked out my favorite stat  - that the winningest quarterback at the brown's stadium was ben roethlisberger
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Scotty on 25 January 2021, 19:21:53
Josh Allen did the same thing to Brady's Bills Stadium triumph - at least since 2000.
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Charlie 6 on 25 January 2021, 19:23:21
I dunno 3 INTs seems pretty aged to me.
Apparently he's been doing it since 2006...
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/24/tom-brady-is-now-3-1-when-throwing-three-interceptions-in-a-playoff-game/
Title: Re: NFL 2020-Hopefully starting on time
Post by: Sartris on 25 January 2021, 20:02:32
Whatever demonic pact he signed back when they took out the greatest show on turf has paid for itself many times over