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Re: DFW Mechwarrior's Guild: Same great flavor, 50% less dignity!
« Reply #60 on: 12 June 2022, 04:01:20 »
Sweet!  Gaslands.  I should one of these days learn how to make a unit (unless Whistler wants to make them for me).
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« Reply #61 on: 13 June 2022, 18:20:04 »
Ok, so outside of moving me to a Sunday and not telling me, it looks like my schedule is still the same. I know a couple of people will be unavailable, and a few others talked about axis and allies miniatures. I’ll probably show up to just hangout, unless somebody wants to help beta test these alpha strike rules I’m working on. I’ll try to get those posted here in a day or so and see what people think.

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« Reply #62 on: 15 June 2022, 17:03:26 »
Ok, here is the bare bones basics for now. I'm already working on scenarios and more force building rules, but I wanted to start off simple and work up to those. If anybody has something they have concerns with or thinks would be cool, let me know.

I'll be up at Gen-X Sunday(19th) to hangout, if anyone wants to run some test games with me, that's cool with me. Build a appropriate force or two according to the composition rules. Feel free to try to break the rules wide open, that's kind of the whole point of testing these, but if you want to just create a fun force and play, that's perfectly fine as well.

DFW Mechwarriors guild Alpha Strike Tournament rules

Basic Rules, first draft.

Force composition:

- 250 PV.

- There is a limit of five of any unit chassis (e.g., you can have five Atlas mechs of any variant in your force. This only applies to a individual chassis, a Atlas, Atlas II and Atlas III are all considered separate unit chassis for purposes of list building. If unsure, consult tournament TO.)

- A force must have at LEAST one ground based unit. (e.g., A force could be comprised of a single Savannah Master and four Aerospace fighters, but not five Aerospace units only.)

- A force can only have a maximum of four units with the ART-X special ability.

- A force must be faction specific, but not era specific. Consult the MUL for unit availability for your faction of choice.

- Unit base skill is 4. Skills can be upgraded by spending the appropriate amount of PV to increase them. A unit skills CANNOT be decreased for a reduction in its PV cost.

- Proxies allowed. A proxy must be of a matching unit type and size. A proxy cannot be the same miniature as another unit in your force. Proxies must be explained to your   opponent before the game starts.


Rules:

- All standard Alpha Strike rules

- Hexed play

- Movement modifier dice.

- Variable Damage rolls: Multiple attack rolls.

- Optional Special Abilities

- Optional Unit Types

- Aerospace Rules.

- Advanced Infantry rules.

- Augmented Warriors. (A Augmented unit MUST be at least skill 1, and belong to the Word of Blake faction.)

- Attacker/Defender.
 
  - The player with the lower PV total chooses to be Attacker or Defender. The Defender chooses two map sheets to be setup length wise next to each other. Attacker chooses which short board edge to deploy from. Certain scenario elements will be affected by which player is Attacker/Defender. In-case of a tie in PV, roll a pair of dice or some other kind of randomizer to determine who chooses Attacker/Defender.
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« Reply #63 on: 15 June 2022, 20:13:45 »
Looks good to me! Interested to see what the scenarios would be like...
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« Reply #64 on: 16 June 2022, 04:14:22 »
Looks good to me! Interested to see what the scenarios would be like...

Debating between having a set of scenarios(2d6 random table) or a set of scenario cards(like Star Wars legion) that you randomize between rounds.

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« Reply #65 on: 17 June 2022, 11:14:54 »
Looks cool as hell.  >:D

I know I'm the resident artillerist here but I dare say that for 250 points four units with ART specials is too high. Might want to chop that in half, and possibly shift from 'units carrying' to 'points of' ART. It may be a moot point seeing as we only have 250 to work with but still.

I'll have to look up the advanced infantry rules.
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« Reply #66 on: 17 June 2022, 14:13:34 »
I'm fine with four tubes. Either you're bringing easily-destroyed towed guns, or you're sinking a lot of points into SPGs, and thus shorting your regular combat units.
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« Reply #67 on: 17 June 2022, 15:37:04 »
Yeah, those were my thoughts as well. I settled on our standard four tubes as a default limit, but like all of these rules so far: if you think something’s too strong…prove it! >:D

Everything is open to be changed, it is a first draft after all. If you think of something that is abusable, let’s try it out. I’ve already made three lists for the clans to try out, nothing super crazy, but I think they are three decent examples of what a average player may field.

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« Reply #68 on: 17 June 2022, 17:00:16 »
Don't issue me a challange... that's a path to the dark side. I feel like I could make it work, and I even sorta want to pursue it. But... yeah, I feel like the results of this thought exercise could be dangerous. :P
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« Reply #69 on: 17 June 2022, 17:07:33 »
Don't issue me a challange... that's a path to the dark side. I feel like I could make it work, and I even sorta want to pursue it. But... yeah, I feel like the results of this thought exercise could be dangerous. :P

But, I said that was the point ;D

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« Reply #70 on: 19 June 2022, 06:58:24 »
Ugh, I’ve managed to avoid getting sick for three year now, and of course I come down with strip throat Friday :-[ I’m not gonna make it to the store today.

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« Reply #71 on: 20 June 2022, 18:07:56 »
I'll bring the Battletech cards again for this Sunday.

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« Reply #72 on: 20 June 2022, 19:04:26 »
Sounds good to me. I've still got a fair collection of them myself, would it be useful to bring them?
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« Reply #73 on: 20 June 2022, 22:26:53 »
I've got all we'll need, but if ya want to bring some to look through we can.

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« Reply #74 on: 21 June 2022, 20:20:17 »
Welp, first doctor was obviously bad at his job. I went to go get a stronger prescription to treat my throat, and that doctor was like: “you got the roni, bro.”

I’ll be out for at least a week or two into next month, till I know I’m not contagious, don’t wanna risk others. You guys keep safe out there, and I’ll see ya when I know I’m not spreading it around.

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« Reply #75 on: 22 June 2022, 00:43:48 »
Good luck!
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« Reply #76 on: 22 June 2022, 18:54:33 »
https://freerangepumpkins.com/

New game store in Pantego. Haven't been inside yet, but it looks like they have Battletech stuff.
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« Reply #78 on: 25 June 2022, 01:11:39 »
HUZZAH!!

Just ordered TWO of those and a copy of Shrapnel #9

On a sad note, while building a deck for the Battletech card game I realized that not only did I lose the pre-made decks in the storage unit break-in, but also the bulk of my duplicate cards primarily the first set. Still, I did manage to build a Kurita deck (and work on a Liao/ St. Ives deck)
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« Reply #79 on: 25 June 2022, 11:29:16 »
I still need to go through my box and see if I can actually build a deck of any single faction. Most of the time I-don't-wanna-know long ago, I settled for simply doing a generic Clan or generic Inner Sphere deck.
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« Reply #80 on: 26 June 2022, 16:16:35 »
Gents,

Going to be in Texas for the holiday, bringing forces for a Davion vs Kurita battle at Gen-X at the usual time on Sunday the 3rd

Hope to see ya'll there
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« Reply #81 on: 26 June 2022, 17:32:24 »
Here's the discord for anyone that needs it, https://discord.gg/VFUnHYYtM2.

I'm interested in some Alpha Strike for next weekend.

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« Reply #82 on: 27 June 2022, 14:32:09 »
Will be at GenX next week on Tuesday the 5th, noon to 5, for a game with a friend who isn’t available on weekends.
 
Force construction will be same as Psofan89’s post above.  Only changes are this will be hexless Alpha Strike and units are limited to Inner Sphere introduced in 3042 or earlier.

I’ll bring a force for both sides and depending on time and how many players we get we can drop in reinforcements for each side.

Scenario:
[3042] In advance of the planned invasion of the planet Suzano by the Federated Commonwealth’s Fifth Syrtis Fusiliers, several mercenary forces have been dispatched to one of the polar regions to capture a key hydrocarbon processing facility.  FedCom hopes the fuel stockpiles there will be secured in time to help supply their invasion force.

Attacker [Mixed Mercenary Forces] Objective – Destroy any defending Free Worlds League forces.  Avoid extensive damage to the facility.

Defender [1st Free Worlds Legionnaires] Objective – Destroy any attacking forces. 

FedCom Intel – The facility is located by a frozen lake which is surrounded by rolling hills.  Bitter cold temperatures will have pros and cons.  First point of overheat gained per turn is ignored.  Heavy snowstorms in the area will likely hinder visibility occasionally.  Yes the buildings will explode if you shoot them.
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« Reply #83 on: 28 June 2022, 00:53:10 »
HUZZAH!!

Just got a text from our fearless leader Darrell: Marc Bradle will be running a Battletech  game this Sunday (July 3) at Gen X.
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« Reply #84 on: 29 June 2022, 11:16:02 »
Will be at GenX next week on Tuesday the 5th, noon to 5, for a game with a friend who isn’t available on weekends.
 
Force construction will be same as Psofan89’s post above.  Only changes are this will be hexless Alpha Strike and units are limited to Inner Sphere introduced in 3042 or earlier.

I’ll bring a force for both sides and depending on time and how many players we get we can drop in reinforcements for each side.

Scenario:
[3042] In advance of the planned invasion of the planet Suzano by the Federated Commonwealth’s Fifth Syrtis Fusiliers, several mercenary forces have been dispatched to one of the polar regions to capture a key hydrocarbon processing facility.  FedCom hopes the fuel stockpiles there will be secured in time to help supply their invasion force.

Attacker [Mixed Mercenary Forces] Objective – Destroy any defending Free Worlds League forces.  Avoid extensive damage to the facility.

Defender [1st Free Worlds Legionnaires] Objective – Destroy any attacking forces. 

FedCom Intel – The facility is located by a frozen lake which is surrounded by rolling hills.  Bitter cold temperatures will have pros and cons.  First point of overheat gained per turn is ignored.  Heavy snowstorms in the area will likely hinder visibility occasionally.  Yes the buildings will explode if you shoot them.

Sorry man, should checked sooner :/

HUZZAH!!

Just got a text from our fearless leader Darrell: Marc Bradle will be running a Battletech  game this Sunday (July 3) at Gen X.

Mark is coming to town eh? Excellent!
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« Reply #85 on: 02 July 2022, 21:02:43 »
A question just occurred to me about the proposed Alpha Strike format:

Will the lance formation rules be used? And if yes, are combined-arms lances/stars/other allowed? Such as a lance with two mechs and two vees?
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« Reply #86 on: 03 July 2022, 04:21:13 »
A question just occurred to me about the proposed Alpha Strike format:

Will the lance formation rules be used? And if yes, are combined-arms lances/stars/other allowed? Such as a lance with two mechs and two vees?

Yes, that was something I was gonna review in the next update. I’d need to sit down and go over all of them and see. At first glance though: I’d probably have no problem with allowing them to be mixed unit formations. If I recall off of the top of my head, they mostly only care about: speed, damage, unit role. So I’d think they would be fine if you could meet the requirements with every unit.

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« Reply #87 on: 03 July 2022, 10:26:18 »
Cool. As soon as you posted it initially, I started thinking about Dark Age-style forces, but those are gonna be at a severe disadvantage if pure lances were needed.
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« Reply #88 on: 03 July 2022, 14:18:59 »
Yeah. The few formation rules I remember only ever said mech only, or they implied it at least. But that’s an easy enough fix I think. I’ll start going over them when I have time.

Also on that front: I’d love to hear any feedback if you guys have been playing some games with the format. I’m obviously stuck here and really haven’t had anyway to test stuff. Though I could just set stuff up and run some vague simulations on how games would go…

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« Reply #89 on: 03 July 2022, 23:00:38 »
I dont think we've played it yet, tbh.

I too believe unit formations should be a thing for this... especially since we are going to be getting a bunch of new ones with the new faction manuals. Whenever they come out.
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