BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion, Vol. 1

[ANS Kamas P81]

And it's not like "Choice Of Miniatures Box Set" can't be an option; this lets players get what they want.  Again, wait until next month and we'll see what we see.

[kinwolf]

No details on shipping or  friendly shipping options so far. We'll know in 30 days though.

[Weirdo]

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[Charbok]

First off, I'm beyond excited for this.  I've been playing Battletech since 1988, and the models and art they're based on look incredible.  You've got my money.

Secondly, please don't screw this up.  Charge shipping after the campaign ends.  Be communicative and transparent throughout this process.  Kickstarter Campaigns have a lot of moving parts, therefore lots of failure points.  Every add on that isn't the core project is an additional failure point, so consider that stuff carefully.

Best of luck, CGL!  Looking forward to having cool new mechs to paint sometime in 2021! (No pressure!)

[Bedwyr]

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[Adrian Gideon]

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[RomulusDC]

Just tucked $200 under the mattress. I’ll see what else I can add to the stockpiles over the next month. Time to return the empty bottles next

[Colt Ward]

I know what I want to do . . . and I am looking for pennies in parking lots to add to the pile.  Found 3 today, if I can keep them from ending up in my old piggy bank I gave the kid . . .

 . . . hm, it is MY piggy bank . . . besides, the toddler will not miss the coins- he already is grabbing my minis que the pew pew & bangbang sounds.

[H.B.M.C.]

Been a very long time since I posted here.

Anyway, yes, the Kickstarter. I think it's a great idea, just add +1 year to whatever they say the delivery time is as that's how Kickstarters always work.

I'll see how modest I can be with my spending, but if I see a plastic Turkina or Night Gyr show up I may not be able to control myself.  :D

BYE

[kinwolf]

Been a very long time since I posted here.

Anyway, yes, the Kickstarter. I think it's a great idea, just add +1 year to whatever they say the delivery time is as that's how Kickstarters always work.

Now, now, let's not make this a rule. In fact, I just received an email for the Ogre kickstarter(Steve Jackson games) that they received everything a week sooner!  And all Kickstarter from Sin Nominee(rpg books) were all delivered right on time. So, they DO exist  :)

[Joewrightgm]

I think the key will be how much are we actually funding; not the art/CAD work, based on Anthony Scroggins Patreon (proud patron here, woo!) that is mostly in the can.  If we’re funding the production of molds+distribution, then it may not take that long or it may have a lower funding goal.

[Sartris]

i think in this particular case, the bigger bottleneck on art is time rather than money (though the money is important too - it freed up the time in the first place). the early work has allowed cgl to go into the kickstarter with a full set of renders and prototypes rather than posting a few concept sketches and getting people to buy into an idea. i think that's where people get into trouble with KS is that they don't have a complete vision of what they're going to do and have to bang it out once the money has been collected, which leads to a whole host of problems.

[Joewrightgm]

i think in this particular case, the bigger bottleneck on art is time rather than money (though the money is important too - it freed up the time in the first place). the early work has allowed cgl to go into the kickstarter with a full set of renders and prototypes rather than posting a few concept sketches and getting people to buy into an idea. i think that's where people get into trouble with KS is that they don't have a complete vision of what they're going to do and have to bang it out once the money has been collected, which leads to a whole host of problems.

‘Failure to plan is planning for failure’.  Truth!

[NeonKnight]

Can not agree more. And a lot of the preliminary works were in development I would say months before MechCon last Year (First weekend of December/2018) as I saw them when Shimmering Sword was talking with Brent and I. I had been sworn to secrecy about them, and now that the 'cat's out of the bag' so to speak, all I can think is if this goes well, there are a lot of other nuggets that CGL could do in the future.

[Charlie Tango]

Can not agree more. And a lot of the preliminary works were in development I would say months before MechCon last Year (First weekend of December/2018) as I saw them when Shimmering Sword was talking with Brent and I. I had been sworn to secrecy about them, and now that the 'cat's out of the bag' so to speak, all I can think is if this goes well, there are a lot of other nuggets that CGL could do in the future.

And the renders for the IS stuff have been running around well before that in some cases; they were clearly just waiting for the best vehicle to get them moving forward.

[NeonKnight]

And the renders for the IS stuff have been running around well before that in some cases; they were clearly just waiting for the best vehicle to get them moving forward.

True, so very true. I know I saw the Shadow Cat 3-d Render/image at mechCon, so, yes, these were in work for quite a while. Of course, you I believe have an even bigger inside scoop over me due to you doing a Lot of the 3D printing.

[MarauderD]

I'm excited for this.  I'll definitely be down for a clan invasion set for my shelves, but mostly interested in the nuseen lance packs!  Hopefully I can get a few of each of those beautiful lance packs.  Strangely excited for the Stinger/Wasp/Phoenix Hawk!

[Charlie Tango]

True, so very true. I know I saw the Shadow Cat 3-d Render/image at mechCon, so, yes, these were in work for quite a while. Of course, you I believe have an even bigger inside scoop over me due to you doing a Lot of the 3D printing.

That's someone else here, not me.

[NeonKnight]

That's someone else here, not me.

Oh, I thought it was you who helped out with the 3D printing for gen Con a few years back...My apologies then!

[Bedwyr]

Oh, I thought it was you who helped out with the 3D printing for gen Con a few years back...My apologies then!

Mostly it's Greatsarcasmo who is the impresario of 3D printing services and artistry.

[Shin_Fenris]

I've backed numerous KS campaigns over the past five years or so, and I can say without any hesitation that none of them have come close to my level of excitement for this one. The sculpts themselves are beautiful, and will be great to expand some of my Succession Wars/Clan Invasion era units (stuff I'm teaching my kid with) without worrying so much about shattered metal. I (think?) read that new map(s) will be included as well? And if so, assuming they're anywhere near as glorious as the Grasslands pack, I might actually be looking forward to that part the most.

[Lorcan Nagle]

I (think?) read that new map(s) will be included as well? And if so, assuming they're anywhere near as glorious as the Grasslands pack, I might actually be looking forward to that part the most.

The Clan Box is stated to have brand-new maps, rather than a new map pack being part of the Kickstarter.

[Charlie Tango]

Oh, I thought it was you who helped out with the 3D printing for gen Con a few years back...My apologies then!

Mostly it's Greatsarcasmo who is the impresario of 3D printing services and artistry.

Yup,  that. All the credit goes to GS for his amazing work at rendering the 3-d prints.

[Joewrightgm]

Shimmeringsword posted some new concept art for clans on his patreon.  Not going to share it here, it’s $2 a month, pay the man and soak in the glorious sights!

[NeonKnight]

Yup,  that. All the credit goes to GS for his amazing work at rendering the 3-d prints.

I stand Corrected - Certainly want the credit to go where it is deserved!

[Joewrightgm]

So what if we get plastic elementals? That would be a neat stretch goal

[Empyrus]

Clan 'Mechs ain't worth it without Elementals!
OK, i'm not entirely serious but all my (yet unfulfilled) plans to get Clan minis involve getting Clan battle armor too.

If the Clans get Elementals, i wonder if the IS might get IS Standard as counterpart? While they aren't as integral to IS combat doctrine as Elementals are to the Clans, gameplay-wise having both is nice symmetry.

[Sartris]

Every clan Omni pilot needs a little modular armor!

[Pat Payne]

Every clan Omni pilot needs a little modular ablative armor!

fixed that for you  ;D

[Two Guns Blazing]

Plastic Elementals as well as some IS Standard BA, all sculpted to scale, would be fantastic. I guess I'd like to see at least 3 poses for each...but you could do a small amount of reposing with some hot water, at least their arms, and to a lesser degree their legs.