BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion, Vol. 1

[Lynx]

I'm actually a bit surprised to see the Bombardier in the next IS target. I mean, the Archer and the Longbow are both in here, I'm not so sure why the Bombardier gets in.

I supposed I could wave my DCMS flag here and suggest the Dragon, but why not an Ost- ? We really hadn't seen a redesign on those for the longest time.

[RomulusDC]

$550k. That sweet, sweet new star unlocked.
Seriously. Is no one going to talk about the Elephant in the room?
Where is the Urbanmech?

[Lorcan Nagle]

I'm actually a bit surprised to see the Bombardier in the next IS target. I mean, the Archer and the Longbow are both in here, I'm not so sure why the Bombardier gets in.

I supposed I could wave my DCMS flag here and suggest the Dragon, but why not an Ost- ? We really hadn't seen a redesign on those for the longest time.

It's in TRO: Succession Wars, I assume that's part of the decision-making process for the minis getting added.

[Lynx]

Where is the Urbanmech?

Probably in its own Lance pack.

Nay. Its own Company pack.  :P

[Sartris]

all of the minis announced so far are found in TRO: Succession Wars or TRO: Clan Invasion except the Crusader and Longbow. a good test of what cgl is thinking for the limits of stretch goals will come after the $650k, which are the last five clan mechs in TRO: CI

[Two Guns Blazing]

all of the minis announced so far are found in TRO: Succession Wars or TRO: Clan Invasion except the Crusader and Longbow. a good test of what cgl is thinking for the limits of stretch goals will come after the $650k, which are the last five clan mechs in TRO: CI

If this Kickstarter's Mech-reveal pace keeps going at break-neck speed like it has been so far, my money udders are going to be milked bone dry, I already have chafed nipples...

[GreekFire]

I'm happy that CGL is finally doing a kickstarter. It's been a while coming, so I hope the team has been prepped enough so that the fulfillment process goes as smoothly as possible.

I do hope that down the road, if everything goes well, all of the volunteers who will have helped this come about will be given a bonus for their work in all of this.

[PyreLight]

I hope Anthony Scroggins is surviving all of this with all the modeling he has to do  ;D

[H.B.M.C.]

I still think they need to do an "Eggheads" Lance:

2x Urbanmech
1x Urbanmech IIC
1x Imp

I'm actually a bit surprised to see the Bombardier in the next IS target. I mean, the Archer and the Longbow are both in here, I'm not so sure why the Bombardier gets in.

Do you want yet another Catapult? ;)

BYE

[Geont]

I hope Anthony Scroggins is surviving all of this with all the modeling he has to do  ;D

He and the art team are wailing how much of work they have ahead. :D

[Lynx]

Do you want yet another Catapult? ;)

Could be worse. I was actually looking at possible 65 tonners. I ended up with Jagermech...

[00Dawg]

So the $600k level also opens up the Great Houses for coin and dice options. 
If you have the collector gene and you didn't reevaluate your pledge when you saw that, your Collector Midichlorian count is too low to qualify for membership in the order. 

[marauder648]

We need a hunchie too :D

And yeah I bet it was a case of

"Don't worry lads, it won't be that many of those backers."

20 seconds later.

"Oh no...oh no...oh no!"

For the art team :D

[The_Livewire]

QUESTION: and really, who's not going to use their own name!? 

If I get the package or add on, I'd be just as likely to add my late fiance's name as mine.  She played Battletech as a kid, and we never got a chance to sit down and play ourselves.

[Sartris]

If this Kickstarter's Mech-reveal pace keeps going at break-neck speed like it has been so far, my money udders are going to be milked bone dry, I already have chafed nipples...

it's wild. when they first announced the campaign i was thinking we'd get the base five plus the two lances and two stars if things went well. now even the $600 tier has to add on packs. we're also nearly up to 20 dice options  xp

Do you want yet another Catapult? ;)

...is it a -K2?

otherwise i'm solid
x4 plastech fatapults
original daddy long legs RP sculpt
IWM C4
IWM K2
2007 and 2011 cgl box set lo-fi & 2013 box / AS Support Lance RavenPult
IWM DA sculpt
Catapult II
GoAC scroggins special

[Weirdo]

Interesting tidbit: As a thought experiment, I built a force of Beginner+AGoAC mechs vs the Clan Box. For the IS, I used 3050 variants when practical(kept the -C1 Catapult for practicality reasons), and since many of the 'main' variants described in the original TRO 3050 were -Ms, I used Marik variants when possible. For the Clan force, I stuck with Prime configs, and lasers for the Elemental Points. Here's the results:

Inner Sphere:

Battlemaster-3M
Awesome-9M
Thunderbolt-7M
Catapult-C1
Shadow Hawk-5M
Wolverine-7M (x2)
Griffin-3M
Commando-5S
Locust-3M

Clan:

Gladiator Prime
Mad Cat Prime
Black Hawk Prime
Grendel Prime
Puma Prime
Elemental (Laser) (x2)

Inner Sphere total: 13761 BV
Clan total: 13416 BV

Seems like a pretty even fight to me. And if you throw in a second Beginner Box to make it an even company, you'd probably have enough BV to improve the skills of several Clan units. :)

[Foxx Ital]

What in kerensky's name does cgl have against my bank account. I mean yes I could live without some of these mechs...but do I want to?

[MarauderD]

it's wild. when they first announced the campaign i was thinking we'd get the base five plus the two lances and two stars if things went well. now even the $600 tier has to add on packs. we're also nearly up to 20 dice options  xp

...is it a -K2?

otherwise i'm solid
x4 plastech fatapults
original daddy long legs RP sculpt
IWM C4
IWM K2
2007 and 2011 cgl box set lo-fi & 2013 box / AS Support Lance RavenPult
IWM DA sculpt
Catapult II
GoAC scroggins special

I am beyond excited for all these new minis!  But for putting the Catapult in the lance pack?  I don't think that makes sense.  That mini is in the GoAC box, and it is excellent.  The evidence thus far is that the lance packs are resculpts of the TRO:SW and TRO:CI  (Crusader and Longbow as the welcome exceptions).

I doubt we'll see a Catapult in one of the lance packs, but we'll see.  My inner squeeeee is a roar right now, deafening out nearly everything else!

[Sartris]

similar parity to the pre-elemental reveal setup i had looked at with the eight GoAC mechs (no griffin) as their 3025/39 stock variants with 3/4 pilots vs the clan same star with 4/5 pilots.

now you've got me going down that rabbit hole with all the options for early invasion matchups...

[Cubby]

Cubby, I have a pretty serious question to add to your list when you're up and about in the morning. Addresses. If there will be wave splits for product delivery, how will CGL handle people needing to change addresses in the interim? Some baker systems and campaigns lock addresses at a fixed time before delivery. With wave delivery, that's not tenable if the interval is long enough. Some people simply have to move frequently.

Good question. Passed it along.

You might even say that they timed the KS to occur right around GenCon on purpose! ;)

It's kinda like that, yeah.

Cubby, after you've had your morning coffee, a question: Are the additional Star/Lance Packs included in the Orbital Drop ($500,001) stretch goal for Star Colonel and higher are doubled under "doubled forces"?  (I suspect they're not but I wanted to confirm for planning's sake.)

Asking.

Seriously. Is no one going to talk about the Elephant in the room?
Where is the Urbanmech?

I was going to joke that it's a the $10M level, but after seeing eight people buy the Full Kerensky, I'm afraid someone is going to liquidate some stock and make it happen.

all of the minis announced so far are found in TRO: Succession Wars or TRO: Clan Invasion

Both of which are books you can either buy right now, or will soon be able to.

What in kerensky's name does cgl have against my bank account. I mean yes I could live without some of these mechs...but do I want to?

Remember that most or all of this will be available eventually through normal retail and the CGL web store, except for the items clearly marked as exclusives. Not to dissuade anyone from pledging or pledging more, but my understanding at this point is that getting your hands on them won't be a one-shot deal.

[Talen5000]

Good question. Passed it along.

It's kinda like that, yeah.

Asking.

I was going to joke that it's a the $10M level, but after seeing eight people buy the Full Kerensky, I'm afraid someone is going to liquidate some stock and make it happen.

Both of which are books you can either buy right now, or will soon be able to.

Remember that most or all of this will be available eventually through normal retail and the CGL web store, except for the items clearly marked as exclusives. Not to dissuade anyone from pledging or pledging more, but my understanding at this point is that getting your hands on them won't be a one-shot deal.

That's good, but even the exclusives are getting unmanageable right now.

Still...if the neoprene maps, faction dice, faction kits, museum scale models, dropship and star/lance packs and map sets will be available later, that will be a relief.

No offense, I'm glad its going well but, dangnabit, I have to live and you guys are making it just so hard...

I think I'm going to have to give up on Alpha Strike and TRO CI this month as it is, and heaven help my wallet of you have any more Jag exclusives at GenCon...the eBay scalpers usually make a killing ;)

[Lynx]

Remember that most or all of this will be available eventually through normal retail and the CGL web store, except for the items clearly marked as exclusives. Not to dissuade anyone from pledging or pledging more, but my understanding at this point is that getting your hands on them won't be a one-shot deal.

This is actually an important point. If you are gaming at a store, and they are willing to stock these products, it may be better in the long run to get some of the stuff from the store instead. In my case, there are stuff that I want doubles (or more) of, and those packs I'm likely to use this KS to get. But others, which I might be able to contain my enthusiasm for, I probably will wait for my LGS to stock/ order in for me, so that I can help sustain a locale to game in.

[norge71]

This is actually an important point. If you are gaming at a store, and they are willing to stock these products, it may be better in the long run to get some of the stuff from the store instead. In my case, there are stuff that I want doubles (or more) of, and those packs I'm likely to use this KS to get. But others, which I might be able to contain my enthusiasm for, I probably will wait for my LGS to stock/ order in for me, so that I can help sustain a locale to game in.

Well said. And since I WANT THEM ALL (but can't afford them all) this helps my anxiety.

[H.B.M.C.]

Yeah, I beg of you, no more Catapults or Zeus! I've got 6 and 7 of them respectively (and will have another Catapult when the starter box arrives) and don't need any more.  :-\

So the $600k level also opens up the Great Houses for coin and dice options.

Means I can finally get some FedSun dice to go with my ancient ClickyTech Jade Falcon dice. :)

BYE

[pheonixstorm]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Retaliation add-on as its own retail package. Would save money for those of us that only want the minis and save GoAC for the new players.

[MarauderD]

Im generally not much of an add-on type guy; and my contribution is pretty much what I can afford.

That being said, the leather bound limited edition of MechWarrior: Legends?  Total no brainer.  If you guys can tempt me with an add on, yer doing it right.

Carry on CGL.  I’m scared to think where this Kickstarter will end up in 30 days, but I’d you don’t hit 2 million easy, I’ll be shocked.

[Foxx Ital]

Some fun facts I noticed while checking the community section of the ks, 448 of the backers including me have never backed a project before! It was also nice to see the top city's and various country's some backers are from.

[PsylockeSmythe]

I second this Print on Demand request if it's possible. It's so nice to have physical copies of these books.

I agree I perfer physical copies of novels over PDF.  So Print on Demand would be nice to have.

Psy

[RomulusDC]

This is my first Kickstarter. I hope it won’t be my last Battletech Kickstarter though.

[Talen5000]

Some fun facts I noticed while checking the community section of the ks, 448 of the backers including me have never backed a project before! It was also nice to see the top city's and various country's some backers are from.

Its been a bad month for me....the TORG Aysle Kickstarter is ongoing as well