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VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« on: 05 February 2019, 21:08:34 »

An edge case question that I'm not finding a clear answer to elsewhere...

Aerospace fighters operate at altitudes on aerospace maps.  VTOLs operate at elevations on ground maps.

Because of this, aerospace fighters attack VTOLs as if the VTOLs were ground units (i.e., strafing, etc.).  And conversely, VTOLs attack aerospace fighters as if the VTOLs were ground units (i.e., AA fire, etc.).

If I have a booby-trapped VTOL, can it get close enough to an aerospace fighter to detonate its booby trap and damage the aerospace fighter in the the resulting explosion?

Or is the aerospace fighter simply too high and/or too fast for a VTOL to ever employ a booby trap against it?

Thanks for any insights or (better yet) rules references.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #1 on: 06 February 2019, 01:35:50 »
By the rules the only way that can happen is if using the Aerospace Units on Groundsheets rules while they fly at Altitude 0.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2019, 09:58:40 »
And by flying at Altitude 0, he means landed. Any aero that is airborne is automatically out of reach.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #3 on: 06 February 2019, 11:04:07 »

Thanks, gentlemen.  That's what I figured but wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #4 on: 07 February 2019, 15:13:50 »
No NOE?  I want to say some of the DA fiction has them being on the level.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #5 on: 07 February 2019, 15:24:38 »
Altitude 1 is NOE. And while it is that low in-universe, by the rules ALL Elevation levels are lower than even the lowest Altitude level. Having them overlap would make the rules vastly more complex than they already are.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #6 on: 07 February 2019, 15:43:39 »
Sure, I understand the abstract nature . . . but if this is some character's attempt to take out a pesky fighter, I would say that is a GM call.  I want to say one of the ASF going after VTOLs on Archenar overcorrected when taking return fire and created a new ditch.
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Re: VTOL w/ Booby Trap vs. Aerospace Fighter
« Reply #7 on: 07 February 2019, 16:10:31 »
Oh yeah, stuff like that can totally happen in fiction, or in an rpg. :thumbsup:
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