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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #180 on: 26 February 2018, 12:40:36 »
I wish they'd included cardstock  punch outs to the additional 2 plastic minis.  That wont satisfy someone who wants more.

Punch-out playing pieces are included in both boxes.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #181 on: 26 February 2018, 12:58:45 »
And that's pretty much what the $20 "Beginner's Box" is supposed to be...(Rules, a map, two minis...)

Honestly in today's market, that's a close as anyone's going to get to that concept.
I think you are underestimating the store space factor.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #182 on: 26 February 2018, 13:54:20 »
Punch-out playing pieces are included in both boxes.

That is some interesting new information. I like it. :)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #183 on: 26 February 2018, 14:13:58 »
Punch-out playing pieces are included in both boxes.

You mean we don't have to use other players for this anymore?? ;D

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #184 on: 26 February 2018, 16:13:25 »
Punch-out playing pieces are included in both boxes.

High quality Infantry, Battle Armor, and Vehicle cardstock tokens.
I need them.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #185 on: 26 February 2018, 16:25:00 »
High quality Infantry, Battle Armor, and Vehicle cardstock tokens.
I need them.
I need them a lot.
I'll take even, uh, medium quality ones.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #186 on: 26 February 2018, 16:32:42 »
The punchout pieces are 'Mechs only.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #187 on: 26 February 2018, 16:34:02 »
The punchout pieces are 'Mechs only.

Still pretty dang cool. Linen finish? ;)
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #188 on: 26 February 2018, 16:35:01 »
The punchout pieces are 'Mechs only.

That's a good move.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #189 on: 26 February 2018, 16:38:20 »
Still pretty dang cool. Linen finish? ;)

Eggshell. Looks better on walls.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #190 on: 26 February 2018, 16:39:06 »
it's not unlike the BattleDroids box with two minis and cardboard standups - though this time I suspect the standups will decidedly lack the original Macross art

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #191 on: 26 February 2018, 16:39:43 »
Still pretty dang cool. Linen finish? ;)
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« Reply #192 on: 26 February 2018, 16:46:06 »
Eggshell. Looks better on walls.

oil or latex?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #193 on: 26 February 2018, 17:01:30 »
Punch-out playing pieces are included in both boxes.

I wholeheartedly and unreservedly agree with this decision.

The minis in this game are certainly fantastic, but having an official option for mech tokens for those that can't put big dollars into minis is a fantastic nod to making the game accessible. Hopefully new players appreciate it as well.

SIDE NOTE ON THE UNSEEN: In my opinion, the game does need the unseen, but mostly for balance reasons. In the 3025 era, which is one of the simpler and more easily balanced eras, taking out the unseen removes some really important units and leaves some rather annoying gaps when you try to actually play there. In my opinion anyway. The Heavy bracket especially gets gutted without the unseen. So, while the game doesn't really need the unseen to look any specific way, I feel like it DOES need units with their stats available in 3025. Make 'em look like whatever you have to, but you really need things like Warhammers and Crusaders if you want to play in the late succession wars, which are still a fun place to play. Does it need to happen ASAP? Probably not, but no matter which way the lawsuit goes, I hope we get those mechs visible and with new minis, whatever they look like, again.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #194 on: 26 February 2018, 17:13:19 »
The minis in this game are certainly fantastic, but having an official option for mech tokens for those that can't put big dollars into minis is a fantastic nod to making the game accessible.

That's the idea--to get as much play out of each box as possible while keeping costs low.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #195 on: 26 February 2018, 17:26:40 »
Make an expansion set that also has vehicles and infantry and i'll get a couple of them even.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #196 on: 26 February 2018, 18:04:16 »
Make an expansion set that also has vehicles and infantry and i'll get a couple of them even.

I'd actually agree to something like this too.
Something like the Citytech Box Set from back in the day. That could be something interesting...

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #197 on: 26 February 2018, 18:14:25 »
Make an expansion set that also has vehicles and infantry and i'll get a couple of them even.

Well, Brent has been pretty vocal in wanting to have products that allow you to play major events, which often involve vehicles... so it is possible that they might be thinking along the lines of the dragonfire campaign sets.... aka: you get the rules for the scenario, and counters for the important units (outside what is in the box sets).   

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« Reply #198 on: 26 February 2018, 18:26:26 »
Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is what they are planning or not, and am not aware of anything other than Brent's comments about wanting to allow players to play the story.

No vehicle or infantry punch-out pieces of any kind are planned at this time.

Remember when these pieces weren’t on the menu at all, six hours ago? One step at a time, folks.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #199 on: 26 February 2018, 18:33:30 »
No vehicle or infantry punch-out pieces of any kind are planned at this time.

Remember when these pieces weren’t on the menu at all, six hours ago? One step at a time, folks.

I don't think anyone's expecting a OMG turn-around to see something like that. But even as a stand alone kind of thing, it would be cool to see happen.

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« Reply #200 on: 26 February 2018, 18:44:10 »
No vehicle or infantry punch-out pieces of any kind are planned at this time.

Remember when these pieces weren’t on the menu at all, six hours ago? One step at a time, folks.

In fairness, vehicle tokens have been a request for years. The return of stand ups for the first time since the FanPro box set have people imagining the possibilities.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #201 on: 26 February 2018, 18:51:49 »
Not sure why folks who want them have not already made them using the .jifs from MegaMek . . . some folks who have made those did excellent work.
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« Reply #202 on: 26 February 2018, 19:11:18 »
Because people don't have printers anymore, and those who do aren't interested in crappy paper pieces or going through the hassle of gluing them to cardstock. Look, if people want to spend the money to skip the hassle, why is there a problem?
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« Reply #203 on: 26 February 2018, 19:13:36 »
Because people don't have printers anymore, and those who do aren't interested in crappy paper pieces or going through the hassle of gluing them to cardstock. Look, if people want to spend the money to skip the hassle, why is there a problem?
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« Reply #204 on: 26 February 2018, 19:18:31 »
Because people don't have printers anymore, and those who do aren't interested in crappy paper pieces or going through the hassle of gluing them to cardstock. Look, if people want to spend the money to skip the hassle, why is there a problem?

I am not saying there is a problem, but just pointing to a source with good art.
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« Reply #205 on: 26 February 2018, 19:19:47 »
Because people don't have printers anymore, and those who do aren't interested in crappy paper pieces or going through the hassle of gluing them to cardstock. Look, if people want to spend the money to skip the hassle, why is there a problem?
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #206 on: 26 February 2018, 20:00:08 »
Make an expansion set that also has vehicles and infantry and i'll get a couple of them even.

Honestly, I want to see this sort of thing for the whole line. Rulebooks and all. Start with the mechs, then produce addons for the other unit types that can be bought as desired. I feel like the attempt to cover everything the way they did in total warfare was a mistake.
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« Reply #207 on: 26 February 2018, 20:15:44 »
The punchout pieces are 'Mechs only.

I meant as an expansion, not with the intro boxes.
The intro products need to focus just on mech combat. 

Not sure why folks who want them have not already made them using the .jifs from MegaMek . . . some folks who have made those did excellent work.

I have done that, actually. With pretty good success.  I would love an official option, though, that lets me support CGL and save printer ink.
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« Reply #208 on: 26 February 2018, 20:24:43 »
Remember when these pieces weren’t on the menu at all, six hours ago? One step at a time, folks.

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« Reply #209 on: 26 February 2018, 20:46:04 »
Honestly, I want to see this sort of thing for the whole line. Rulebooks and all. Start with the mechs, then produce addons for the other unit types that can be bought as desired. I feel like the attempt to cover everything the way they did in total warfare was a mistake.

Oooh. Future TROs with Punch-out pages in the back. Or a Q&D TRo Supplemental sealed page sold separately of the book with said counters.

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