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Kasaga

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Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« on: 20 April 2018, 19:29:52 »
As with my OmniMech Challange I am looking for Medium and Heavy Omni-Fighters that use the best of the technology available to the Society.  Think flying versions of the Osteon, Septecima and Cephelus. 

The medium ASF should be a general purpose dogfighter for use as an air superiority fighter for ground units and as the main fighter aboard carriers for suppression of enemy ASF.

The Heavy ASF should be focused as a strike fighter for both carrier and ground operations. Capable of taking on Dropships in Squadron size formations and prevailing handily.  Again think airborne Osteon but with heavier firepower to weight ratio but bleeding edge of Society technology.

If anyone has a light fighter they want to toss in feel free but I’m mainly looking for a medium and heavy design for these OmniFighters.

Thank you all looking forward.

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #1 on: 21 April 2018, 03:36:39 »
Axion Heavy Fighter

The Axion is designed to be a hard hitting and extremely durable aerospace fighter and features bleeding edge technology that The Society incorperated into its sleek frame.  Fast for a 75-ton fighter the Axion is as fast as a Visigoth, a fighter 15-tons lighter and can outrun and out turn any other heavy fighter in Clan service.  This is thanks to its hugely powerful 400 rated XXL engine as well as a 5-ton fuel tank which allows the fighter to remain in combat longer than most of its Clan opponents.  For survivability the fighter is draped in 18 tons of Ferro-Lamellor armour which offers protection equal to all but the heaviest assault fighters like the Scytha and Kirghiz, and thanks to the special properties of Ferro-Lamellor plate the Axion can take a huge amount of damage for a craft its size.

Unfortunately for The Society the resources involved in building the Axion meant that production numbers remained very low and the fighter would act as an Osteon would on the ground, as a flying command and control craft able to bring devastating fire to bear when needed.

Variants

Prime - Capable of bringing huge firepower to bear against any threat whilst out manouvering other air threats the Prime is a fearsome combattant.  Its paired improved heavy large lasers can boil through armour with terrifying ease and make it a fearsome strafing craft, whilst the gauss rifle, fed by a large 3-ton ammo bin can deliver heavy damage at long range.  Like its ground based counterparts the Prime features a Nova CEWS which can share targetting data with friendly fighters or even ground units.

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Axion Prime
Clan experimental
75 tons 
BV: 2,849
Cost: 70,819,375 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 375 XXL
Heat Sinks: 21 [42]

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 252 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       81
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        41


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Improved Heavy Large Laser     LWG    18
Improved Heavy Large Laser     RWG    18
Gauss Rifle                    NOS     1
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8
Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8
Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


A - Designed as a generalist and 'support' unit the A features a pair of iATM-9's each with their own 3-ton ammunition bin.  A RAC-5 with another 2-tons of ammunition can provide heavy hitting firepower at good range whilst an ER medium and small laser provide additonal firepower.  When reciving targetting data through its Nova CEWS, the A can be fearsomly accurate and is a threat that should not be ignored.

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Axion A
Clan experimental
75 tons 
BV: 3,365
Cost: 71,910,781 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 375 XXL
Heat Sinks: 15 [30]

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 252 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       81
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        41


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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iATM 9                         LWG     6
iATM 9                         RWG     6
Rotary AC/5                    NOS     1
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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iATM 9 Ammo                    RWG     7
iATM 9 Ammo                    RWG     7
iATM 9 Ammo                    RWG     7
iATM 9 Ammo                    LWG     7
iATM 9 Ammo                    LWG     7
iATM 9 Ammo                    LWG     7
Rotary AC/5 Ammo               NOS    20
Rotary AC/5 Ammo               NOS    20

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


B - Designed for long range engagements the B is armed with a pair of nose mounted ER large lasers whilst a Artemis V enhanced LRM-15 is installed under each wing.  Each LRM has 3-tons of ammunition whilst for defence a Laser AMS is fitted in the nose with an ER small laser firing to the rear.  When reciving targetting data from Photon's the B could cripple targets outside their ability to accurately respond.

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Axion B
Clan experimental
75 tons 
BV: 2,932
Cost: 71,606,563 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 375 XXL
Heat Sinks: 19 [38]

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 252 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       81
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        41


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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LRM 15                         LWG     5
LRM 15                         RWG     5
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
Laser AMS                      NOS     5
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Artemis V FCS                  LWG
Artemis V FCS                  RWG


C - Designed to be a ground attack fighter the C's pure energy armament is all linked into a targetting computer for maximum efficiency.  A trio of large pulse lasers provide the main punch and the fighters cooling systems allow them to all be used without any heat woes that so often plagued Clan aerospace fighters.  A pair of medium pulse lasers can be brought to bear at shorter ranges whilst an ER small laser covers the fighters tail. 

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Axion C
Clan experimental
75 tons 
BV: 3,277
Cost: 70,150,781 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 375 XXL
Heat Sinks: 17 [34]

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 252 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       81
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        41


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Large Pulse Laser              NOS    10
Large Pulse Laser              LWG    10
Large Pulse Laser              RWG    10
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Targeting Computer             NOS


D - Designed as a generalist and dogfighter the D features an Improved heavy large laser in the nose as well as a gauss rifle for long range firepower, each with is armed with a pair of Improved heavy medium lasers whilst a pair of Micro lasers cover the fighters rear.  Of all the Axion variants the D is the only one that suffers notable heat issues, but as it has nothing explosive onboard a pilot can ride the fighters heat scales.

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Axion D
Clan experimental
75 tons 
BV: 2,965
Cost: 71,264,102 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 375 XXL
Heat Sinks: 21 [42]

Structural Integrity: 7
Armor: 252 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       81
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        41


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Improved Heavy Large Laser     NOS    18
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    LWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    LWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    RWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    RWG     7
Gauss Rifle                    NOS     1
ER Micro Laser                 AFT     1
ER Micro Laser                 AFT     1

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8
Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8
Gauss Ammo                     NOS     8

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT



Photon Medium fighter

Designed to be the Societies general purpose fighter the 55-ton Photon, despite being heavier than the Turk has the same performance as the Sulla and Batu and thanks to its large fuel tank has greater endurance than most Clan fighters.  Covered in 10 tons of Ferro-Lamellor armour the Photon's protection make it hard to cripple and its speed make it a formidable interceptor.  As with other Society Mech's and the larger Axion, the Photon is equipped with a Nova CEWS to share targetting data with friendly forces.  Unfortunately the performance does cut into the fighters warload, leaving it with 21-tons of pod space.  Like the Axion, the Photon was quite rare due to the resources used in its creation. But, despite this it was quite common and produced in large moderate numbers.

Prime - Designed as a generalist and air-superiority fighter the Prime can engage at long range with its ER large laser and iATM-6 which feeds from a 3-ton ammuniton hopper. At shorter ranges a quartet or ER Medium lasers can be brought to bare whilst an ER small laser covers the fighters rear against any craft that are able to slot in behind the nimble Photon.

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Photon Prime
Clan experimental
55 tons 
BV: 2,719
Cost: 40,318,220 C-bills

Movement: 9/14
Engine: 385 XXL
Heat Sinks: 16 [32]

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 140 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       50
Left Wing                  35
Right Wing                 35
Aft                        20


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
ER Medium Laser                LWG     5
ER Medium Laser                RWG     5
ER Medium Laser                LWG     5
ER Medium Laser                RWG     5
iATM 6                         NOS     4
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10
iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10
iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


A - A dedicated interceptor the A is armed with a HAG-20 fed by a 3-ton ammuniton hopper, the HAG can cripple hostile fighters control surfaces and sandblast ground targets.  At shorter ranges a pair of medium pulse lasers can engage targets and all three weapons are tied into a targetting computer and of course the fighter has a Nova CEWS installed to make it even more accurate.

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Photon A
Clan experimental
55 tons 
BV: 1,928
Cost: 39,805,351 C-bills

Movement: 9/14
Engine: 385 XXL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 140 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       50
Left Wing                  35
Right Wing                 35
Aft                        20


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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HAG/20                         None     4
Medium Pulse Laser             None     4
Medium Pulse Laser             None     4

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
HAG/20 Ammo                    None     6
HAG/20 Ammo                    None     6
HAG/20 Ammo                    None     6

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Targeting Computer             None

B - Armed with a pair of massive iATM-12s each with their own 3-ton ammunition hoppers the B can engage at all ranges with its missile barrages. A single ER medium laser is installed in the nose for self-defence, but the B mainly serves as a ground attack aircraft, using its speed to get into position to attack targets from behind with its missiles.

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Photon B
Clan experimental
55 tons 
BV: 3,290
Cost: 41,450,101 C-bills

Movement: 9/14
Engine: 385 XXL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 140 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       50
Left Wing                  35
Right Wing                 35
Aft                        20


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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iATM 12                        LWG     8
iATM 12                        RWG     8
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


C - Capable of engaging at long and short range the C is armed with a pair of ER large lasers and at shorter ranges a pair of SSRM-6 launchers, one under each wing can engage targets.  A pair of ER small lasers are also fitted, one in the nose and the other covering the tail. 

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Photon C
Clan experimental
55 tons 
BV: 2,354
Cost: 40,002,339 C-bills

Movement: 9/14
Engine: 385 XXL
Heat Sinks: 14 [28]

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 140 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       50
Left Wing                  35
Right Wing                 35
Aft                        20


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
Streak SRM 6                   LWG     4
Streak SRM 6                   RWG     4
ER Small Laser                 NOS     2
ER Small Laser                 AFT     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Streak SRM 6 Ammo              LWG    15
Streak SRM 6 Ammo              RWG    15

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT



D -  Built as an interceptor the D also makes a fearsome ground attack craft.  With its improved heavy large laser in the nose providing the main punch, a quartet of medium pulse lasers can produce a storm of fire that can chew through hostile fighters.  The electronics suite is also expanded to include a TAG and active probe, allowing the D to act as a heavy scout fighter.

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Photon D
Clan experimental
55 tons 
BV: 2,220
Cost: 40,113,901 C-bills

Movement: 9/14
Engine: 385 XXL
Heat Sinks: 17 [34]

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 140 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       50
Left Wing                  35
Right Wing                 35
Aft                        20


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Improved Heavy Large Laser     NOS    18
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
Clan TAG                       NOS     0

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Active Probe                   NOS


Meson Light Fighter

The first Society OmniFighter to be produced the Meson is fantastically fast thanks to its XXL engine and can outrun and out turn the Avar and Batu and thanks to its 6.5 tons of Ferro-Lamellor armour it can take a surprising amount of damage for a 35-ton fighter.  Its 5-ton fuel tank also allow it to outlast other Clan fighters and remain in the field for longer.  Produced at secret sites and orbital facilities in out of the way locations, the Meson was the most common of the Society's Omnifighter designs but it still remained rare due to the resources required to build it and the dispersed nature of its production sites meant that getting parts and resources was a challenge. 

Prime - A hard hitting interceptor and generalist the Prime's main punch comes from a pair of improved heavy medium lasers and an iATM-6 mounted in the nose.  With 3-tons of ammuniton the Prime can make full use of the wide range of ammuniton available to the ATM system.  An ER medium laser is also installed and the fighters electronics are hard-wired into a Nova CEWS, allowing pilots to share targetting data with friendly forces.

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Meson Prime
Clan experimental
35 tons 
BV: 1,922
Cost: 20,974,749 C-bills

Movement: 11/17
Engine: 315 XXL
Heat Sinks: 12 [24]

Structural Integrity: 11
Armor: 91 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       35
Left Wing                  20
Right Wing                 20
Aft                        16


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Improved Heavy Medium Laser    LWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    RWG     7
iATM 6                         NOS     4
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10
iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10
iATM 6 Ammo                    NOS    10

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


A - Designed as a ground attack craft the A is formidably armed for strafing runs with a battery of laser weapons.  An Improved heavy large laser can provide a brutal punch whilst a quartet of ER medium lasers can burn through armour with ease.  A light TAG also allows it to spot for friendly artillery assets, a common thing in Society ground forces.  Unfortunately the weapons tax the fighter's heatsinks and firing all the lasers will cause a severe heat spike and risk the pilot loosing control of the aircraft.

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Meson A
Clan experimental
35 tons 
BV: 2,040
Cost: 20,693,924 C-bills

Movement: 11/17
Engine: 315 XXL
Heat Sinks: 13 [26]

Structural Integrity: 11
Armor: 91 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       35
Left Wing                  20
Right Wing                 20
Aft                        16


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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ER Medium Laser                RWG     5
ER Medium Laser                LWG     5
ER Medium Laser                LWG     5
ER Medium Laser                RWG     5
Heavy Large Laser              NOS    18
Light TAG                      None     0

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT


B - A hard hitting scout the B features a wealth of advanced electronics including an ECM, active probe and TAG as well as a recon camera fitted into the belly of the fighter.  Firepower comes from a quartet of Improved heavy medium lasers which give the scout a nasty bite.

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Meson B
Clan experimental
35 tons 
BV: 1,308
Cost: 20,994,724 C-bills

Movement: 11/17
Engine: 315 XXL
Heat Sinks: 14 [28]

Structural Integrity: 11
Armor: 91 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       35
Left Wing                  20
Right Wing                 20
Aft                        16


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Clan TAG                       NOS     0
Heavy Medium Laser             LWG     7
Heavy Medium Laser             RWG     7
Heavy Medium Laser             LWG     7
Heavy Medium Laser             RWG     7

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Active Probe                   NOS
ECM Suite                      NOS
Recon Camera                   NOS


C - An interceptor from the ground up the C is built to dogfight and secure the air over a battle ground or defend against hostile attack craft moving in on friendly DropShips, JumpShips or the few captured WarShips the Society possessed.  With a single ER Medium laser acting as the 'long-range' weapon the fighter was also armed with a quartet of medium pulse lasers, and all five weapons were linked into a targetting computer, making it fearsomly accurate.  A light active probe was also installed to allow it to help feed targetting data to friendly heavy units and burn through hostile DropShip's ECMs.

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Meson C
Clan experimental
35 tons 
BV: 2,224
Cost: 20,414,274 C-bills

Movement: 11/17
Engine: 315 XXL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]

Structural Integrity: 11
Armor: 91 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       35
Left Wing                  20
Right Wing                 20
Aft                        16


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Targeting Computer             NOS
Light Active Probe             NOS


D - A missile support unit and not too popular as the weapons encourage staying at long range and not engaging in a dogfight where the Meson's speed is best utilized the D is armed with an Artemis V enhanced LRM-20 which draws from a generous 3-ton ammunition locker.  Its energy armament is limited to a quartet of ER Small lasers but pilots do appreciate the big LRM launcher.

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Meson D
Clan experimental
35 tons 
BV: 1,702
Cost: 20,702,149 C-bills

Movement: 11/17
Engine: 315 XXL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]

Structural Integrity: 11
Armor: 91 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       35
Left Wing                  20
Right Wing                 20
Aft                        16


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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ER Small Laser                 LWG     2
LRM 20                         NOS     6
ER Small Laser                 RWG     2
ER Small Laser                 LWG     2
ER Small Laser                 RWG     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
LRM 20 Ammo                    NOS     6
LRM 20 Ammo                    NOS     6
LRM 20 Ammo                    NOS     6

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
Artemis V FCS                  NOS


 
Note - Following the defeat of the Society, the Axion, Photon and Meson are all being studied for reproduction by the Homeworld Clans, although at this time both fighters, like the Osteon undergoing review.  In all three fightrs the Nova CEWS is integral to the fighters electronics suite and removing it would mean a complete rebuild of the electronics.  Whilst this might be done in the future, the Homeworlders have bigger things to worry about and any authorisation for renewed construction of the craft is currently on hold.




Here you go, thats my entry for this challenge :)

And part of me sees the Photon as looking a bit like this



or



A blended wing/lifting body kind of shape to reduce the profile and try and encourage stealth.













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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #2 on: 21 April 2018, 06:33:19 »
Haha thanks I like them all. I’m keeping my options open.  I have to dbl check what the max weight is for ASF I do know they are split on 3 classes.  But I was looking for something more in the assault weight class for the strike fighter. But I do like all three of your designs.  I am going to seriously consider them.

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« Reply #3 on: 21 April 2018, 07:16:12 »
Max weight for a fighter is 100 tons but they have a weird designation for them, there's not the typical light, medium, heavy, assault divide, instead its light 20 - 45 tons, medium 50 - 70 tons, heavy 75 - 100 tons and there's no assault weight, so you got a light, medium and heavy :D  And i'm glad ya like 'em, was gonna name them after infections (see Septecimia) but naming them after particles made more sense, the Society was basically the science club gone bad.
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« Reply #4 on: 21 April 2018, 07:22:15 »
Agreed on both the naming and weight conventions.  I might hold off on your Heavy but the light and medium look good. I am going to see if anything heavier comes in for the Strike Fighter.

Thanks so much for all of the help.

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« Reply #5 on: 21 April 2018, 07:47:16 »

I will take a stab at an heavy fighter (Hadron 90t) later today.
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« Reply #6 on: 21 April 2018, 08:28:42 »
I will take a stab at an heavy fighter (Hadron 90t) later today.

Awesome thanks

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« Reply #7 on: 21 April 2018, 08:53:58 »
I'm working on an assault now :p

And speaking of which

Tachyon Assault Fighter

The last and rarest of the Societies Omnifighters, the Tachyon was seen only a handful of times but was an unholy terror to face.  A group of Tachyon's engaged the Aegis CSA Stellar Serpent and although there was only two Trey's of the fighters making a attack runs they severely damaged the Adder cruiser forcing her to spend months in a shipyard undergoing repairs.

Despite massing 100-tons the Tachyon was fast for a craft its size, matching the Falcons fearsome Scytha as well as the Sabutai and Jagati, outrunning both the Kirghiz and Jengiz thanks to its huge 400 rated XXL engine.  Draped in 19-tons of Ferro-Lamellor armour the fighter was very heavily protected, allowing it to take levels of damage normally reserved for DropShips. 

All of the electronics were linked into a Nova CEWS allow the fighter to share data with wingmates and other friendly forces and bring its considerable firepower to bare. 


Prime - Concentrating on raw firepower the Prime is designed to destroy hostile fighters and maul DropShips quickly and efficiently.  Built for long range engagements, a massive HAG-40 can sandblast targets and cripple flight surfaces at extreme range whilst a pair of ER large lasers add to the punch.  At short range a pair of improved heavy large lasers can boil through the most heavily protected fighters in service as well as punch through most DropShip hulls.  The rear firepower is rather weak with a single ER medium laser providing cover for the fighter but it is meant to out run or out turn other fighters so rear firepower was not seen as too important.  The biggest drawback of the Prime is its fearsome heat-load, even with 23 double heatsinks installed, a full forwards alpha strike will come incredibly close to causing an automatic shutdown.

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Tachyon Prime
Clan experimental
100 tons 
BV: 4,155
Cost: 109,187,500 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 400 XXL
Heat Sinks: 23 [46]

Structural Integrity: 10
Armor: 266 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       84
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        52


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
ER Large Laser                 RWG    12
ER Large Laser                 LWG    12
Improved Heavy Large Laser     LWG    18
Improved Heavy Large Laser     RWG    18
ER Medium Laser                AFT     5
HAG/40                         NOS     8

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3
HAG/40 Ammo                    NOS     3

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Nova CEWS                      AFT


A - Although somewhat undergunned compared to the Kirghiz or Hydaspes, the A is brutally efficient.  A pair of gauss rifles, each with 3-tons of ammunition provide the main long ranged punch and can shatter almost any fighter with a few hits.  At shorter ranges a trio of large pulse lasers can engage and cripple almost anything in space as well as making it a fearsome strafing platform.  The A does not have the Prime's heat problems and can engage a target with all three weapons without any concerns. 

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Tachyon A
Clan experimental
100 tons 
BV: 3,576
Cost: 107,655,625 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 400 XXL
Heat Sinks: 16 [32]

Structural Integrity: 10
Armor: 266 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
-----------------------------
Nose                       84
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        52


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                    LWG     1
Gauss Rifle                    RWG     1
Large Pulse Laser              LWG    10
Large Pulse Laser              RWG    10
Large Pulse Laser              NOS    10

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Gauss Ammo                     RWG     8
Gauss Ammo                     LWG     8
Gauss Ammo                     RWG     8
Gauss Ammo                     LWG     8
Gauss Ammo                     LWG     8
Gauss Ammo                     RWG     8

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Nova CEWS                      AFT



B - A more traditional design that was based on the Hydaspes, the B is armed with a pair of ER large lasers and a pair of iATM-12's as its main armament.  For shorter range barrage work, paired medium pulse lasers in the wings can engage whilst a fifth medium pulse laser covers the fighters stern.  Like the Prime this variant suffers heat issues but careful weapon selection should negate the worst of the heat spikes.

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Tachyon B
Clan experimental
100 tons 
BV: 4,289
Cost: 110,578,750 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 400 XXL
Heat Sinks: 25 [50]

Structural Integrity: 10
Armor: 266 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       84
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        52


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
iATM 12                        LWG     8
iATM 12                        RWG     8
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
ER Large Laser                 NOS    12
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             RWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             LWG     4
Medium Pulse Laser             AFT     4

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   RWG     5
iATM 12 Ammo                   LWG     5

Equipment                      Loc
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Nova CEWS                      AFT
ECM Suite                      NOS


C - Designed as a barrage craft, the C is armed with four Artemis V enhanced LRM-15's with two-tons of ammunition per launcher. Additional long range firepower comes from an ER PPC in the nose.  Shorter range firepower is covered by four forwards firing ER medium lasers and one covering the fighters stern.  Twenty five heatsinks deal with the worst of the firepower but a full alpha strike will still cause a significant heat spike.

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Tachyon C
Clan experimental
100 tons 
BV: 3,941
Cost: 110,372,500 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 400 XXL
Heat Sinks: 25 [50]

Structural Integrity: 10
Armor: 266 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       84
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        52


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
LRM 15                         LWG     5
LRM 15                         LWG     5
LRM 15                         RWG     5
LRM 15                         RWG     5
ER PPC                         NOS    15
ER Medium Laser                AFT     5
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5
ER Medium Laser                NOS     5
ER Medium Laser                LWG     5
ER Medium Laser                RWG     5

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    LWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8
LRM 15 Ammo                    RWG     8

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Nova CEWS                      AFT
Artemis V FCS                  RWG
Artemis V FCS                  LWG
Artemis V FCS                  RWG
Artemis V FCS                  LWG


D - Designed to attack ground targets the D is a fearsome strike craft.  A pair of ER PPCs form its main armament whilst a pair of LB-10X autocannons can engage at shorter ranges as can a pair of improved heavy medium lasers with a third covering the fighters rear. 

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Tachyon D
Clan experimental
100 tons 
BV: 3,206
Cost: 108,981,250 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 400 XXL
Heat Sinks: 25 [50]

Structural Integrity: 10
Armor: 266 (Ferro-Lamellor)
                        Armor
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Nose                       84
Left Wing                  65
Right Wing                 65
Aft                        52


Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
LB 10-X AC                     LWG     2
ER PPC                         NOS    15
ER PPC                         NOS    15
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    LWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    RWG     7
Improved Heavy Medium Laser    AFT     7
LB 10-X AC                     RWG     2

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
LB 10-X AC Ammo                LWG    10
LB 10-X AC Ammo                LWG    10
LB 10-X AC Ammo                RWG    10
LB 10-X AC Ammo                RWG    10

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Nova CEWS                      AFT


Deployment

The Tachyon was a very rare sight, it was only seen during the air and ground battles on and around Stacha during the Wars of Reaving due to the world being its primary production centre.  These facilities were later captured but they had been badly damaged by Society forces and the computers were wiped, but a set of plans were found and it is possible that the Tachyon might fly again in the future.



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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #8 on: 21 April 2018, 10:34:26 »

Strange, I don't seem to be able to get a Nova CEWS in MegaLab, any clues?
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« Reply #9 on: 21 April 2018, 10:36:37 »
Try putting it on experimental rules, its found in there :)
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« Reply #10 on: 21 April 2018, 12:27:02 »
Strange, I don't seem to be able to get a Nova CEWS in MegaLab, any clues?

Where can I find MegaLab? I still have Heavy Metal. But it has been updated in about a decade.

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« Reply #11 on: 21 April 2018, 13:13:04 »
Where can I find MegaLab? I still have Heavy Metal. But it has been updated in about a decade.
https://github.com/MegaMek/megameklab/releases/tag/v0.43.9


Try putting it on experimental rules, its found in there :)
I was already on experimental, but I found it after turning on 'extinct' equipment.
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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #12 on: 21 April 2018, 14:38:03 »
While I'm unable make clean designs....

Why not a Society based Voidseeker- Mk.39-007 and Mk.39-006, both backed by clantech weapons and a Nova CWES... The Striker upgrades the LRM rack, adds more ammo and the Interceptor swaps the ER Ms for iHMs.

Should be able to use....

And keeps the drones!

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #13 on: 21 April 2018, 16:00:25 »
While I'm unable make clean designs....

Why not a Society based Voidseeker- Mk.39-007 and Mk.39-006, both backed by clantech weapons and a Nova CWES... The Striker upgrades the LRM rack, adds more ammo and the Interceptor swaps the ER Ms for iHMs.

Should be able to use....

And keeps the drones!

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Oh that’s good as my Hegemony force already uses the Reagan SDS system for the home worlds this would prove a nasty surprise.  And I could make these carrier based ships for fleet operations which could explain away a lot of the ASF numbers.

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« Reply #14 on: 21 April 2018, 18:40:29 »

Hadron OmniFighter

In the early 32nd century the Society decided to design a new Heavy
OmniFighter to meet the emerging new doctrines. Based upon various versions of
the Scytha, the Hadron ASF sacrifices some effective pod space and utilizes an
XXL engine to allow mount over 22 tons of reflective armor. This armor has
been distributed in such a way that even the heaviest energy hits on the aft
facing have little chance of causing internal damage.


Prime: The primary configuration is based upon the XR version. It replaced the
LPL for additional Rotary AC in the nose. The wing-mounted Improved Heavy
Large Lasers have each been replaced by three ER Medium Lasers, while the aft
weapons have been downgraded to small versions. To improve the electronics
suite the Hadron mounts a Nova CEWS in both the Prime and all other official
loadouts. 

Alt-A: One of the big problems with the Scytha A had always been the low ammo
endurance. This had been solved with the Hadron by focusing heavily on the
LRM launchers. The additional of AMS systems allow it to more effective at
missile exchanges. If enemies get too close, then the pilot can decide to
switch to the wing-mounted Improved Heavy Large Lasers. 

Alt-B: The reduced cooling potential of the Hadron required large changes in
the B configuration. It was decided to make it capable of dropping two Uns of
Battle Armor and for executing heavy strafing attacks. The payload uses two
Large Pulse Lasers and seven Medium Pulse Lasers. The six ton transport bay in
the aft allow for the dropping of cargo or Battle Armor.

Alt-C: The Society doubled the ammo endurance on the Hadron C, however this
required the removal of the small weapons and moving the ERPPCs to the nose.

Alt-D: The Alt-D is unusual for an Heavy ASF as it designed to function as an
anti-fighter loadout. The nose mounted HAG-40 can accurately target other
fighters, while the Plasma Cannons can cause other fighters to overheat and
loose control. At closer ranges it can use Streak SRMs to exploit weak points
and any fighter that managed to get in the rear of the Hadron D can be shot
with a Medium Pulse Laser. 

Alt-E: When expecting extreme range combat or enemy WarShips the Society
prefers to employs this loadout, as it uses three iATM-12s in combination with a
single ERLL. This makes it quite capable at extreme harassment and short
range anti-shipping runs. The two Micro Pulse Lasers in the aft can be used
for improvised point defense.   





Hadron OmniFighter
Base Tech Level: Experimental (Clan)
Level          Era
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Introduced     3120
Tech Rating: F/X-X-F-E

Weight: 90 tons
BV: 1,642
Cost: 81,275,944 C-bills

Movement: 6/9
Engine: 360 XXL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Fuel Points: 0/400 (5.0 tons)

Structural Integrity: 9
Armor: 360 (Reflective)
            Armor 
-------------------
Nose          105 
Left Wing      90 
Right Wing     90 
Aft            75 


48.5 tons of pod space


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Prime
BV: 4,164
Heat Sinks: 24 (14 Pod) [48]

Weapons          Loc  Heat  Omni
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Rotary AC/5      NOS    1   Pod
Rotary AC/5      NOS    1   Pod
ER Medium Laser  LWG    5   Pod
ER Medium Laser  LWG    5   Pod
ER Medium Laser  LWG    5   Pod
ER Medium Laser  RWG    5   Pod
ER Medium Laser  RWG    5   Pod 
ER Medium Laser  RWG    5   Pod
ER Small Laser   AFT    2   Pod
ER Small Laser   AFT    2   Pod

Ammo              Loc  Shots  Omni
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Rotary AC/5 Ammo  NOS    120  Pod

Equipment                Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                NOS  Pod

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Alt-A
BV: 4,069
Heat Sinks: 23 (13 Pod) [46]

Weapons                     Loc  Heat  Omni
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LRM 20                      RWG    6   Pod
LRM 20                      LWG    6   Pod
LRM 20                      NOS    6   Pod
Anti-Missile System         NOS    1   Pod
Anti-Missile System         NOS    1   Pod
Improved Heavy Large Laser  RWG   18   Pod
Improved Heavy Large Laser  LWG   18   Pod

Ammo                             Loc  Shots  Omni
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Anti-Missile System Ammo [Clan]  NOS     24  Pod
LRM 20 Ammo                      NOS     18  Pod
LRM 20 Ammo                      RWG     18  Pod
LRM 20 Ammo                      LWG     18  Pod

Equipment                Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                NOS  Pod

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Alt-B
BV: 3,517
Heat Sinks: 25 (15 Pod) [50]

Weapons             Loc  Heat  Omni
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Large Pulse Laser   LWG   10   Pod
Large Pulse Laser   RWG   10   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  NOS    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  NOS    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  NOS    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  LWG    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  RWG    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  AFT    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  AFT    4   Pod

Equipment                 Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                 NOS  Pod
Cargo (6 tons)            AFT  Pod

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Alt-C
BV: 4,159
Heat Sinks: 17 (7 Pod) [34]

Weapons      Loc  Heat  Omni
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ER PPC       NOS   15   Pod
ER PPC       NOS   15   Pod
Gauss Rifle  LWG    1   Pod
Gauss Rifle  RWG    1   Pod

Ammo                     Loc  Shots  Omni
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Gauss Rifle Ammo [Clan]  RWG     16  Pod
Gauss Rifle Ammo [Clan]  LWG     16  Pod

Equipment                Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                NOS  Pod

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Alt-D
BV: 4,215
Heat Sinks: 16 (6 Pod) [32]

Weapons             Loc  Heat  Omni
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HAG/40              NOS    8   Pod
Plasma Cannon       NOS    7   Pod
Plasma Cannon       NOS    7   Pod
Streak SRM 6        RWG    4   Pod
Streak SRM 6        LWG    4   Pod
Medium Pulse Laser  AFT    4   Pod

Ammo                               Loc  Shots  Omni
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Hyper-Assault Gauss Rifle/40 Ammo  NOS     18  Pod
Plasma Cannon Ammo                 NOS     30  Pod
Streak SRM 6 Ammo                  RWG     15  Pod
Streak SRM 6 Ammo                  LWG     15  Pod

Equipment                Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                NOS  Pod

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Alt-E
BV: 5,016
Heat Sinks: 19 (9 Pod) [38]

Weapons            Loc  Heat  Omni
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ER Large Laser     NOS   12   Pod
Improved ATM 12    NOS    8   Pod
Improved ATM 12    RWG    8   Pod
Improved ATM 12    LWG    8   Pod
Micro Pulse Laser  AFT    1   Pod
Micro Pulse Laser  AFT    1   Pod

Ammo                   Loc  Shots  Omni
---------------------------------------
Standard iATM/12 Ammo  NOS     20  Pod 
Standard iATM/12 Ammo  RWG     20  Pod
Standard iATM/12 Ammo  LWG     20  Pod

Equipment                Loc  Omni
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Nova CEWS                NOS  Pod

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #15 on: 22 April 2018, 00:05:24 »
Really nice design Maingunnery :)
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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #16 on: 22 April 2018, 10:12:46 »
I do like this Maingunnery. Now I need to sit down and make some decisions.

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #17 on: 22 April 2018, 15:02:49 »
Let me sweeten the pot by saying Titan-C with ARTS for the possible win?

They weigh only 25% more than the weight of the aero in question. So in other words, assign the largest target weight you want to transport, add 25 percent more!

Striker would be 94 tons per bay, compared to the standard manned bay of 150! So dropping 2 bays for 3 ARTS equipped and 18 tons for extra cargo...

The repairs must come from somewhere...

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #18 on: 22 April 2018, 15:44:23 »
Let me sweeten the pot by saying Titan-C with ARTS for the possible win?

They weigh only 25% more than the weight of the aero in question. So in other words, assign the largest target weight you want to transport, add 25 percent more!

Striker would be 94 tons per bay, compared to the standard manned bay of 150! So dropping 2 bays for 3 ARTS equipped and 18 tons for extra cargo...

The repairs must come from somewhere...

TT

So my understanding is 25% of the bay total so ARTS bays are like 187.5 tons for aerospace fighters. I just doubled checked. But I have a Lee that will be handleing this for me as well as the M-10 (drone Titan)

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #19 on: 22 April 2018, 17:42:03 »
No...

25 % added per each fighter.

150 is standard bay.

75 ton for the Voidseeker Striker.
60 tons for the Interceptor.

You need to add 25% more to each for final weight of bay, example a 100 ton fighter needs 25% more for an ARTS bay, not 187.5 as you said. Consider this unpressurized bay, not one where you need to add air to work in.

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #20 on: 22 April 2018, 18:25:08 »
Well I was reading the rules for the bay out of liberation I

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #21 on: 22 April 2018, 18:38:26 »
Kasaga is correct:

Also see IO p147.
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The ART system increases the transport bay’s normal weight by
an additional 25 percent over its standard version (rounded up to the
nearest half-ton), so an ART system fighter bay would weigh 187.5
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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #22 on: 22 April 2018, 18:46:39 »
Your right.. I did miss read it...

BUT you wouldn't need that much more lifesupport...

MG could you give us a direct line using a Titan-C with crew and standard Aerobays vs. same but with ARTS? Wouldn't the extra tonnage in Life Support be dropped give more tonnage back?

Ideally, you should have a single Star worth of manned units, and the rest droned ARTS. Just a data line here, as this isn't the correct thread. Unless you do link it here.

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #23 on: 22 April 2018, 19:49:57 »
Yeah I could work something like that up in heavy metal if I still had my PC I have Mac now and no builders.  I did have an ARTS Carrier version of the Lee CV as I don’t like the Titan.  I think I lost the SC Bays and kept everything else the same but expanded the cargo.  Might have dropped a squadron of fighters and kept the SC Don’t remember.  But all bays were converted to ARTS to include the SC bays because they work for manned fighters as well.

I’m seriously tempted to use these on destroyers and cruisers in order to replace manned fighters with Voidseekers to open up more pilots for ground ops.
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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #24 on: 15 May 2018, 11:10:06 »
I'm surprised none of these designs make use of something like vehicular stealth or similar "weird" technology. It would certainly fit with the Society.

Although I like the choice to go with unit names based off particle physics. Might want to ignore quark names, though...
« Last Edit: 15 May 2018, 14:37:08 by Xeno426 »

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Re: Design Challange: Society Aerospace
« Reply #25 on: 15 May 2018, 17:10:21 »
Well I'm not going with the stealth armor just yet but might towards the 3070's.  Right now these will all debut between 3058 - 3062 thanks to the Hegemony's access to uninterrupted R&D and the wholesale evacuation of the Advanced Research Labs of the Hegemony Research and Development Department.

 

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