'Lil Karnov

[Retry]

Just a super lazy redesign/fix to the original Karnov Transport Helicopter.  By simply putting the machine on a diet, the 'Lil Karnov manages to fulfill the exact same mission profile as the original while being faster and cheaper (both in C-Bills and in BV).  As such, the 'Lil Karnov is categorically superior to the original in the transport role.

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'Lil Karnov UR Transport (Standard)

Mass: 22 tons
Movement Type: VTOL
Power Plant: 125 ICE
Cruising Speed: 129.6 kph
Maximum Speed: 194.4 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2600
Tech Rating/Availability: E/C-C-C-C
Cost: 342,276 C-bills

Type: 'Lil Karnov UR Transport
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Introductory)
Movement Type: VTOL
Tonnage: 22
Battle Value: 122

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  2.5
Engine                        125 ICE                 8
Cruising MP: 12
Flank MP: 18
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  1.5
Lift Equipment:                                     2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor                  24                    1.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   3         6     
     R/L Side               3/3       5/5   
     Rear                    3         6     
     Rotor                   3         2     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Infantry                Body        6.0     



[Giovanni Blasini]

Wow, that's actually pretty cool.

[acksed]

So all that weight was a ComStar plot. I knew it! :D

Here's something for it to do:

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My Little Bridgelayer

Mass: 22 tons
Movement Type: VTOL
Power Plant: 125 ICE
Cruising Speed: 129.6 kph
Maximum Speed: 194.4 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2600
Tech Rating/Availability: E/C-C-C-C
Cost: 342,276 C-bills

Type: 'Lil Karnov UR Transport
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Introductory)
Movement Type: VTOL
Tonnage: 22
Battle Value: 122

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  2.5
Engine                        125 ICE                 8
Cruising MP: 12
Flank MP: 18
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  1.5
Lift Equipment:                                     2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Armor Factor                  24                    1.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   3         6     
     R/L Side               3/3       5/5   
     Rear                    3         6     
     Rotor                   3         2     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Bridgelayer (Heavy)    Body        6.0

[Daryk]

Did they nerf the ability of VTOLs to sling loads up to their tonnage externally?  ???

[Wolf72]

Did they nerf the ability of VTOLs to sling loads up to their tonnage externally?  ???

dunno,

very good question.  Are rules for external/extra cargo in TO or TW? (I only have TO, TM, IO) ... isn't extra cargo the same for all vehicles?

[Daryk]

I thought it was, and they're in TW (primarily... I had a rules question ages ago trying to sort out the various references).

[Goose]

Did they nerf the ability of VTOLs to sling loads up to their tonnage externally?  ???

The old Planetlifter write-up? I don't think anyone's' ever persued it …

[Daryk]

Planetlifters weren't VTOLs...

[Slightlylyons]

Did they nerf the ability of VTOLs to sling loads up to their tonnage externally?  ???

I don't think so, all vehicles can carry their own weight at half speed, so this loses the ability to carry a heavier cargo load, it carries a lighter one faster.

[Adastra]

Just for fun, checked how well fuel-cell engines improved it. Optimal weight is a tad higher, which allowed me to increase cargo capacity by 25% and add enough armor to survive a Gauss Rifle shot from any angle (though you have to pray crits don't get you). Those things sure are game-changers.

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Karnov Combat-Rated

Mass: 25 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-X-D-C
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 730,889 C-Bills
Total Cost: 730,889 C-Bills
Battle Value: 216

Power Plant:  160 Fuel Cell Engine
Cruise Speed: 129.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 194.4 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                2.50
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine             160                       7.50
    Cruise MP:  12
    Flank MP:   18
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  56                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     15       
                                          Left/Right   13/13       
                                                Rear     13       
                                               Rotor     2         

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Infantry Compartment (7.5 tons)              BD        0         1         7.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 2
12v        0       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, EE



[Hellraiser]

Did they nerf the ability of VTOLs to sling loads up to their tonnage externally?  ???

Exactly what I was thinking, this isn't an improvement 100% since you loose the ability to air lift a Valkyrie/Panther out of the combat zone after a battle.

Planetlifters weren't VTOLs...

Yeah, shame, I loved the Warhammer fluff of moving it as Cargo at 1/2 speed.