Battle with Naval Units in the history of Battletech?

[Leslie Flynn]

Hello

For a small Diorama I am looking for some information. Did somebody know in the history of Battletech battles where Naval Units was involved? Like the nice boat Monitor?

Best regards

[Wrangler]

Best written battles naval wise was in Historical Reunification War.

The best of them was The Malagrotta Crisis, Case Amber and The Battle for Tentativa

Case Black is one where the Taurians were using their fleet as part of an operation to try assassinate a leading Star League commander as the might of the League began swallowing up words of the Concordat. Fleet's actions were feint in number of engagements while ground forces assassinated General Kincaid.

As for more modern (31st Century) engagements you want look at Jihad, Operation SCORCH in Jihad Hot Spots Terra.  With the invasion of Terra, take it from the Blakist.  It was large engagement of Warships by the Inner Sphere, while Clan Nova Cat's Trial of Possession for the Ghost Bear's incompleted Leviathan II Battleship, (not yet named yet) Rasalhague was one of the bloodiest, where both Clan's WarShips fleet were nearly wiped out.  Though there isn't alot of details of the battle unfortunately but short mention (i'm aware of) in Field Manuel: Update.

Wars of Reaving has some good battles, specially at the end with Leviathan Prime fighting off the other Clans

[Baldur Mekorig]

Hello

For a small Diorama I am looking for some information. Did somebody know in the history of Battletech battles where Naval Units was involved? Like the nice boat Monitor?

Best regards

Wait, blue water naval battles, or black "water" (space) battles? Your reference to the Monitor makes me think you mean blue water.

[Weirdo]

He's talking about waterborne fights, though any fight involving a Monitor would probably be a brown or green water fight, they don't look like the kind of boats to handle true blue water deployments, unless 31st-century river barges are a lot more ocean-worthy than they look.

If you want a good naval fight, try to find the Battlecorps story Blue Waters, a two-parter by Steven Mohan. It's a story of the Periphery Star Guard mercenaries guarding an Interstellar Expeditions operation to salvage a submerged DropShip, and most of the combat action focuses on their naval detachment. At the least, they possess a Mauna Kea, a Monitor, an unstatted sub, a Silverfin hydrofoil, and an unstatted hydrofoil. By description, the sub sounds like a Neptune by another name, and the foil is likewise probably an off-brand Sea Skimmer. They end up going against mechs and hovers.

If you want a good wet-navy

[TwinkieMonkieIIC]

Or anything involving Kraken Unleashed.

[Weirdo]

True, but I can't think if any specific battles they took part in, at least nothing covered in enough detail to diorama.

[Luciora]

Could do the Lyran Sea Skimmer vs Dam as mentioned in the fluff texts?

[Tai Dai Cultist]

The Neptune TRO writeup describes how one punked a lance of Dragons in underwater combat.

[Wrangler]

I have agree with Weirdo, i was mistaken thinking Lesila wanted Black Navy verses Blue Water Navy info.   Well, only one or two events i heard of involving the Blue-water stuff.  One was one done for Turning Points Galtor, where the Neptunes were used during fighting against the Draconis Combine, but that was more vehicle vs mechs sort of thing.

I wish some had been done in fiction beyond the Steven Mohan stories.  Vehicle Annex TRO had alot great large naval vehicles that hadn't gotten used before. 

Wait, i just remember that Mauna Kea's TRO 3075 info, included one of ships on Helm fighting wet campaign in 2500s against pirates on Helm's Yehudan Sea.

[Colt Ward]

The Rapiers the Cappies rebuilt as Long Tom ships (2 of the 3) and the last as a carrier were on Liao.  Fluff indicates they may have faced the Blakists . . .

The Blakists destroyed one Tharkad based Luftenburg carrier, likely in the company of some of the Jormungand battlecruisers that were also destroyed, by orbital fire.  Irony?  You have a very good chance it was the former Lyran battlecruiser Tharkad that bombarded them from space.

[Leslie Flynn]

Hi

I am looking for Blue sea Operationsor River operations and i am thinking about an Alpha Strike Szenario with a Lance of Monitors

[Easy]

Carver V, aka Liberty

This was the site of a significant campaign at the end of the Star League that involved a large number of 'conventional' forces on a water world with significant island chains. Although not specifically listed, one must assume a high number of blue-water naval assets were involved on both sides of the conflict with many actions such as that one your describing.

[Colt Ward]

Yeah, they specifically get listed for CAANs . . .

Problem is this is a game about Stompy Robots, we have very few actual ships (you can search and find previous discussions about their use/construction) for the 3050s-3080s so for the SL-era you would have to make them all up . . . even the era I listed will likely require you to create a few using TM.

One other that occurred to me that you might wish to do . . . Halloran V or whatever from MW4 Mercs, at the end you fend off mechs, hovers, VTOLs and a few ships.

[Easy]

Yeah, they specifically get listed for CAANs . . .

Problem is this is a game about Stompy Robots, we have very few actual ships (you can search and find previous discussions about their use/construction) for the 3050s-3080s so for the SL-era you would have to make them all up . . . even the era I listed will likely require you to create a few using TM.

One other that occurred to me that you might wish to do . . . Halloran V or whatever from MW4 Mercs, at the end you fend off mechs, hovers, VTOLs and a few ships.

I might also suggest Coventry. Although the volumes of campaign info don't include any detailed accounts of significant naval battles, Coventry is another water world with significant surface vessel port facilities like Port St. Williams and Port Lawrence, which were the locations for well-known battles. The Coventry Provence Militia is not really known as a sea power, per se, but given what we know about the world, it would be a very likely location for some of the premier surface naval ships like you've been discussing, including carriers and riverine craft.

Well-known campaigns, Jade Falcon Incursion (3058), FedCom Civil War (3063) and Jihad (3067-74ish), are right in that 3050-3080s sweet spot.

[cypher226]

I'm sure one of the worlds in 3039 was described as an archipelago world, with the Blue Star Irregulars fighting Kurita (Dieron?) regulars. I think there was mention of wet navy forces there too.

[truetanker]

Check out HTP: Galtor, Koryu sub.

TT

[Wrangler]

Hello

For a small Diorama I am looking for some information. Did somebody know in the history of Battletech battles where Naval Units was involved? Like the nice boat Monitor?

Best regards

There maybe a unit you could use.  This was temporary formation used during the 4th Succession War named 1st Provisional Lyran Water Navy.  It was assigned to General Roman Steiner's invasion force for their action on Buckminister.  It essentially had supporting the 3rd Royals, it describes consisting of Sea Skimmers, Monitors and many hovercraft that were used for two Beach assaults.

[Exilyth]

There are multilpe account of battlemechs being sneaked in under the water surface in the lore, but blue water navy fights are rather rare.

One story I know of is the short story blue waters from Steven Mohan (was included in the battlecorps anthology volume 5: counterattack). It describes some blue water navy maneuvers and a fight over an underwater archeological dig site which is fought boats vs. mechs/vehicles. Story features  a leopard seal sub, a monitor class gunboat, some skimmers and a mauna kea command vessel.And some hovertanks and mechs ofc. I don't know about the canonicity of the story though.

[Colt Ward]

its absolutely canon having come from BC

[Dayton3]

To me one of the best (and realistic) Battlemech wet navy military engagements was during  Wolf's Dragoons attack on Hesperus on behalf of the Free Worlds League.

The Dragoon mechs tried a river crossing but even as Steiner mechs entered the other side of the river to engage the Dragoons on the river bottom,   Steiner hovercraft sped across the river surface and dropped bombs on the Dragoon mechs basically depth charging them.     The Dragoons tried to use air burst artillery to stop the Steiner hovercraft but were  never able to halt the depth charging entirely.

One of the Dragoons regimental commanders,   Harold Jones was killed in one of the depth charge attacks.

[pat_hdx]

The campaign to destroy the Blakist Wrym Space Defense System Fortress Subs on Terra. Described as exiting stuff including some boarding actions.