Mech of the Week: Turkina

[Iron Mongoose]

While I don't doubt that that's true for you Eric, I also expect you'd take a Summoner over either.  Which one can't help but think makes you a little off   :D

[Dread Moores]

Excellent review, but I still can't bring myself to like the Turkina.  While the jump jets don't make it as slow as the Dire Wolf, it still feels too slow to me.  I'll take a Warhawk any day of the week.

Warhawk? Is that even very common amongst the Falcons? (Am I misremembering again? I thought I remembered you mentioning you were a Falcon player.)

[Moonsword]

Warhawk? Is that even very common amongst the Falcons? (Am I misremembering again? I thought I remembered you mentioning you were a Falcon player.)

He is.  It doesn't seem to be too common among them from what I know but they do have some of them.

[E. Icaza]

Warhawk? Is that even very common amongst the Falcons? (Am I misremembering again? I thought I remembered you mentioning you were a Falcon player.)

No, it isn't very common, but it is very uncommon that I use Assault 'Mechs anyway.  If it doesn't move at least 5/8 then I'm usually not interested in it and that usually limits my options to Heavies and to the Gargoyle (which I have three of) for the upper end.

While I don't doubt that that's true for you Eric, I also expect you'd take a Summoner over either.  Which one can't help but think makes you a little off   :D

Very true.  On taking the Summoner and on being a little off.  :))

[Kit deSummersville]

Why are you not busy playing with your Thunderbolt IIC?

 ;D

[E. Icaza]

Why are you not busy playing with your Thunderbolt IIC?

 ;D

'Cause I don't have TRO: Prototypes?  I'll get it when it comes out in .dtf since I prefer TROs that I'm going to actually use somewhat often in that format.

Then I'll be sure to use it and I'll buy a couple of the minis when IWM makes 'em!

[Weirdo]

Hmm...a star containing a T-bolt IIC, Battlemaster C, an unpopular IS-built Turkina, and some other random stuff. I think we might have a surprisingly scary star here...

[Giovanni Blasini]

What do you do if you're caught overnight in a Castle Brian being chased by baddies in a corvette (presumably Vincent class)?

And what 'Mech is the Porsche 911 of the 'Mech world?  I already figured the Urbie is either a Morris Marina or Dacia Sandero.

Also, needs more pianos falling on Urbies.

[Neufeld]

What do you do if you're caught overnight in a Castle Brian being chased by baddies in a corvette (presumably Vincent class)?

And what 'Mech is the Porsche 911 of the 'Mech world?  I already figured the Urbie is either a Morris Marina or Dacia Sandero.

Also, needs more pianos falling on Urbies.

Nah, the Urbie is the Austin Allegro. I reserve my pianos for the Dasher II.

[Diplominator]

Hmm...a star containing a T-bolt IIC, Battlemaster C, an unpopular IS-built Turkina, and some other random stuff. I think we might have a surprisingly scary star here...

Maybe a Jupiter and an Onager? The Falcons have a lot of good second-line stuff. Well, the Onager isn't exactly good, but it's probably a good fit here.

[JadeHellbringer]

You mean the Jade Turkeys actually made a decent design?  :D

Sure. Bane 4, Battlemaster IIC, Cougar, Night Gyr, Jupiter, Locust IIC, Black Lanner, Fire Falcon (SOME versions), Summoner...

...oh, and the Turkina too. ;)

Maybe a Jupiter and an Onager? The Falcons have a lot of good second-line stuff. Well, the Onager isn't exactly good, but it's probably a good fit here.

Give it a try sometime- I was a little iffy on it at first, but if you start thinking of it as an urban warfare machine like a second-line version of the Turkina C, it really starts to shine. In open terrain, yeah, it's pretty much depantsed.

[Moonsword]

I noticed you left the Flamberge off of that list.

[JadeHellbringer]

I noticed you left the Flamberge off of that list.

It wans't really intended to be a full comprehensive list... I'm still trying to get '85 into my head, so yes, I did forget it and the Onager. Apologies.

[Kit deSummersville]

I noticed you left the Flamberge off of that list.

Heresy!

 ;)

[Iron Mongoose]

I also noticed the Couger on the list...  ::)

The Falcons do have plenty of good mechs, both from their slow phase in the late 50s and their old and new fast phases.  Though like any faction with plenty of designs, they've got their share of stinkers.

[Moonsword]

I also noticed the Couger on the list...  ::)

I decided not to go there.  At least he left the Hellbringer off of it.  I think around here pretty much all of us know why he left the original Bane off of it.

[Krieghund]

On a list of mechs designed by the Falcons, does the Hellbringer belong? For some reason I though the Horses designed that one.

[Moonsword]

They did.  I was making a crack about the fact that he's a fan of it.

[Arkansas Warrior]

Heresy!

 ;)

[Grunts]He-Re-Tic!  He-Re-Tic![/Grunts]

[Rael]

At least with a Hellbringer you can pair it with a Turkina B, then when someone moans about you bringing the Turk B you can just say "Well look, I've got a bloody Hellbringer too".

(Personally I'm fond of the Hellbringer but no need to argue about the mech's virtues here ;) )

Hmm...a star containing a T-bolt IIC, Battlemaster C, an unpopular IS-built Turkina, and some other random stuff. I think we might have a surprisingly scary star here...

Toss in one of the better Royal SL mechs and a Canis 2, that's a cool off-beat Falcon star with all factional mechs.

[Arkansas Warrior]

A Canis 2?

[Rael]

Yep, milspecs fluffed it as a Jade Falcon variant. It's listed as Falcons (and Diamond Shark) on the MUL as well now. There probably aren't many of them about, it seemed to be a refit and I doubt the Falcons had many original Canises in the first place.

[JadeHellbringer]

To be fair, I'm a huge Cougar fan- as long as you don't treat it like a light Mech, it ends up being a pretty good ass-kicker in duels. It has limitations- it won't take a Mad Dog in a fight, and it won't win a race against a Mist Lynx. But in a duel, it's a light Mech that can dish out like a heavy. That's freaking gold, to me. Especially the D config.

But that's for another article (hint! HINT!)

[Moonsword]

I'll put it on the list right after the Spider, then.

[wantec]

To be fair, I'm a huge Cougar fan- as long as you don't treat it like a light Mech, it ends up being a pretty good ass-kicker in duels. It has limitations- it won't take a Mad Dog in a fight, and it won't win a race against a Mist Lynx. But in a duel, it's a light Mech that can dish out like a heavy. That's freaking gold, to me. Especially the D config.

But that's for another article (hint! HINT!)

So you're saying you want to get back into article writing?

[Moonsword]

So you're saying you want to get back into article writing?

I'll be happy to cede the claim to it.

[Iron Mongoose]

Come on Helbie, you know you want to...  :-*

[JadeHellbringer]

MotW was never mine anyway- I subbed in when CWD was busy, and that was it. After I got bumped out of the way on VotW, I never really wanted to do it anymore. Besides, I'd rather people with something interesting to say get to do these. Mine are pretty painful to go back and read again several years later, and despite that I'm just not sure that I'd be able to do any better these days.

This is something best left to the professionals. I won't try it at home. ;)

[Moonsword]

Well, at least don't be a stranger.  Without guys like you to forge the trail, I wouldn't be here to subject people to my hack writing.

[Arkansas Warrior]

MotW was never mine anyway- I subbed in when CWD was busy, and that was it. After I got bumped out of the way on VotW, I never really wanted to do it anymore. Besides, I'd rather people with something interesting to say get to do these. Mine are pretty painful to go back and read again several years later, and despite that I'm just not sure that I'd be able to do any better these days.

anybody know how old CWD's doing these days?  It's been years since he visited these parts.