Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread IV - READ THE FIRST POST

[Sartris]

this is the correct place and so is your observation. unsure where the 2029 value came from but it is now fixed, thanks

[Moragion]

this is the correct place and so is your observation. unsure where the 2029 value came from but it is now fixed, thanks

Thanks to you! Happy to help

[Moragion]

I see the BV at MUL is now 2767. I suppose that means the value at the RS is also wrong?

[DoubleScion]

Hi there! In Era Report 3062, bottom of pg. 149, the RAT shows that Clan Steel Viper, Clan Nova Cat, and Clan Diamond Shark have the Canis and Thunder Stallion, but it is not available to them on MUL. Clan Wolf also has the Canis on that same page (but not the Thunder Stallion).

Canis: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/459/canis
Thunder Stallion: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3224/thunder-stallion

[Sartris]

I see the BV at MUL is now 2767. I suppose that means the value at the RS is also wrong?

No the RS is fine I was looking at the wrong data. I’ll update it when I get to a real computer

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I just noticed that the BVs listed for all the Aries variants on the MUL differ from the ones printed in TRO 3145.  Was that a mistake or did the BV calculations get changed at some point?

[Sartris]

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=33847.msg810575#msg810575

[Moragion]

No the RS is fine I was looking at the wrong data. I’ll update it when I get to a real computer

Thanks Sartris for all the good work.

[Empyrus]

A time traveling Gunslinger GUN-2ERDr MechWarrior appears to have founded the Republic of the Sphere before its appointed time.
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1350/gunslinger-gun-2erdr

Noticed the Republic faction page leads to Jihad era availability, after filtering out IS General this guy was left. I would think RotS is not meant to appear in Jihad era at all, or have link to that era in their faction page.

[Sartris]

Looks like it was inadvertently added to jihad when other eras were populated for RotS. Removed

[Sartris]

Hi there! In Era Report 3062, bottom of pg. 149, the RAT shows that Clan Steel Viper, Clan Nova Cat, and Clan Diamond Shark have the Canis and Thunder Stallion, but it is not available to them on MUL. Clan Wolf also has the Canis on that same page (but not the Thunder Stallion).

Canis: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/459/canis
Thunder Stallion: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3224/thunder-stallion

"secondary invader" is sort of a mishmash. the Canis and Thunder Stallion were only produced for a very short time and only in the homeworlds their position on the RAT was likely meant to reflect low quantity salvage. if a proper coyote RAT appeared in this volume it would feature the canis more prominently.

[Empyrus]

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5861/grasshopper-reynolds
Erroneously classified as Inner Sphere tech base. Should be mixed, has pure Clan laser armament.

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4871/prometheus
Same here too, mixed tech.

[nckestrel]

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5861/grasshopper-reynolds
Erroneously classified as Inner Sphere tech base. Should be mixed, has pure Clan laser armament.

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4871/prometheus
Same here too, mixed tech.

Thanks.

[ocherstone]

The MUL lists the Luxor and Naga class vessels as available to the SLDF in Exile in the early SW period, but no later. TRO3057Revised is pretty clear on the numbers that survived (or didn't). Would the MUL be in error or can 3057R be assumed to be missing information? It looks like 3057R errata isn't being collected or listed anywhere I could find so sorry if this has been corrected already.

[Sartris]

Naga: Mothballed units aren't in use, which doesn't count as in use. 3057r is written from ComStar's PoV so they wouldn't be aware of every ship taken on the Exodus that were later destroyed in the Pentagon Civil War or mothballed after the fact. If lists were limited to explicit text, they would be very small indeed. Sounds like something someone should write about it.

Luxor: This is explicit. Changed to extinct after the Star League era

[Empyrus]

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/2428/parash

A minor art thing. The Parash and Parash 2 entries appear to use the Parash 3's image from XTRORepublic3, rather than the original image from TRO3085. The Parash 3 is noted to have different looking head assembly in the XTRO for what it is worth.

[Joel47]

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/2825/schrek-ppc-carrier-armor

Moved to https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=5927.msg2002470#msg2002470 per Sartris' comment below.

[Sartris]

BV on the MUL follows the RS. Please report the BV error in the appropriate product thread

[Xotl]

Reposting MUL report from Nerroth that I accidentally deleted in the Operational Turning Points: Hanseatic Crusade errata thread:

Apologies in advance: I'm not sure if this is a MUL issue, or one with this volume itself.

Original release PDF, Page 19 - Personalities

Over on the Master Unit List website, it is possible to create custom Alpha Strike Unit Cards - say, by accounting for the Skill value of the pilot.

In this case, I tried generating a Unit Card for Khan Magon Scott's Warhawk Prime. The base unit is shown as having a Point Value of 52; the Khan is noted as having an AS pilot Skill of 1, which when fed into the MUL card generator results in a Point Value of 82. However, in OTP:HC itself, the PV is marked as 51 (81).

Further, on the MUL Unit Card, one of the Specials listed for this OmniMech is IF0*. However, this Special is not among those listed over on OTP:HC.

Which version of this unit would be correct?

[nckestrel]

The Warhawk's IF0* was missing on the MUL for a time, when Hanseatic Crusader came out.  The MUL is currently correct (and the increased PV due to having IF0*).

[Nerroth]

Thanks for the clarification. (I was wondering if the "missing" IF0* and the difference in BV were connected in this instance...)

So as to avoid duplication, is it enough for the above errata answer to be left here; or would it need to be (re-)posted in the OTP:HC thread, so that it is not overlooked if or when that volume is being revised?

[ArcFurnace]

The Clantech Pulverizer has a note of "Reintroduced in 3149" after going extinct in the Late Succession War era, but actually has availability listed for Clan Snow Raven / Raven Alliance starting from Jihad era up. Presumably this should only be Dark Age / ilClan? Alternately, the reintroduction date in the note is incorrect and should be changed, but at least one of those seems wrong.

[Nerroth]

KCG-000b King Crab

According to this unit's MUL entry, Clan Goliath Scorpion had access to it through to the time of their Abjuration from the Homeworlds. At this time of typing, it is not available to the Imperio/Empire thereafter.

However, on page 6 of Operational Turning Points: Hanseatic Crusade, the Seeker Galaxy RAT has this unit listed as one of the 'Mechs liable to be rolled for by players seeking (ahem) to use that branch of the Imperio's touman - at least as of 3140.

Is this enough to adjust the unit's MUL entry so as to grant the Imperio access to it? And if so, might enough samples of this unit survive the Hanseatic Crusade to make it available to the Scorpion Empire through to the ilClan Era?

[ocherstone]

I know of Objective Raids'...tenuous grasp on canonicity. Is the following enough to get the Achilles DropShip added to at least the Smoke Jaguar's invasion list?

Objective Raids: Page 113, Schuyler, Galileo Instruments

"The Clans favor the Achilles, however, and production of that Dropship will probably be accelerated."