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HPG's and Black Boxes
« on: 06 March 2014, 00:24:49 »
OK, War of 3039 has this to say about Black Boxes: "Unlike HPGs, which transmit a burst message instantaneously to a target fifty light-years away, a black box radiates a signal that propagates outward from the transmitter at a steady rate as “ripples” in the fabric of hyperspace (a phenomenon that Star League technicians believed might interfere with KF drives or HPG transmitters, which prompted the SLDF to abandon the technology) "

But StratOps says this about Hyperspace: "Jump travel does not involve wormholes, or somehow ripping holes between two points of the universe and stepping through, or travel through some alternate “dimension”—to use the science fi ction term for another plane of existence—at faster than light speeds. Jump travel entails a transformation of the ship through hyperspace, and I mean hyperspace in the classic mathematical- topographical sense."

Clearly these two paragraphs contradict each other, which is correct?

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #1 on: 06 March 2014, 00:47:38 »
Hi,

I see no contradiction there. The hyperspace JumpShips travel to can be affected by Black boxes, just not enough to disrupt shipping (so far), because JumpShips are far "heavier" than signals.

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #2 on: 06 March 2014, 01:00:57 »
The first one seems to operate on the principal of a classic Sci-Fi hyperspace, another dimension, while the second explicitly denies that happening. Additionally the second paragraph is rather firm on this, JumpShips do not travel or move when they jump, they simply change postion

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #3 on: 06 March 2014, 01:24:28 »
Hi,

They change position through a medium that can (potentially) be perturbed by a Black Box signal. They may not do so via physically moving as we interpret the action in our limited four-dimensional existence, but they definitely transit through hyperspace in order to get where they're going. Mess with hyperspace too much, and the ships don't arrive where they should--if at all.

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #4 on: 06 March 2014, 01:53:30 »
Does that mean an errata for StratOps is needed?

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #5 on: 06 March 2014, 01:58:50 »
No. There is no inconsistency to resolve. You just seem to misunderstand the concepts involved.

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #6 on: 06 March 2014, 02:28:56 »
Just too be clear, there aren't two hyperspaces, correct? (The mathematical one and the transmission media one)

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Re: HPG's and Black Boxes
« Reply #7 on: 06 March 2014, 08:22:45 »
Hi,

Nope. Just the one.

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