BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion, Vol. 4, The Madness Begins

[pixelgeek]

In my defense I am not mentally stable and have very poor impulse control

Like any of us have any impulse control  :))

[Annwn]

Like any of us have any impulse control  :))

Credit limits are the new impulse controls?   ;D

[victor_shaw]

In my defense I am not mentally stable and have very poor impulse control

+1

[Colt Ward]

So this is a place that almost anyone who has been on Ft Sill might recognize- Four Mile Crossing, which is the main link to the North portion of the main range.  Tank trails are not something easy to include since BT maps do not grade roads.  To the left/east of the bridge is the water crossing- if it has tracks it goes through the water (unless you are That Guy, swear, driving through the water and I look over to see the idiot taking his track across the bridge . . . with the BC waiting for him on the other side) while the wheels.  I guess mechs and hovers would also use the water crossing rather than the bridge, but on base you avoided the hardball in certain places . . . this is also IIRC just north of the black out line.

I did a elevation change where the lines were, each should have been 10 meters.  The topo maps shade areas with green where trees are even if they are not as dense as we say BT woulds would be . . . and the water would honestly depend on the season, this would be 'wet' and one with less water but featuring mud would be 'dry' season.

[massey]

So this is a place that almost anyone who has been on Ft Sill might recognize- Four Mile Crossing, which is the main link to the North portion of the main range.  Tank trails are not something easy to include since BT maps do not grade roads.  To the left/east of the bridge is the water crossing- if it has tracks it goes through the water (unless you are That Guy, swear, driving through the water and I look over to see the idiot taking his track across the bridge . . . with the BC waiting for him on the other side) while the wheels.  I guess mechs and hovers would also use the water crossing rather than the bridge, but on base you avoided the hardball in certain places . . . this is also IIRC just north of the black out line.

I did a elevation change where the lines were, each should have been 10 meters.  The topo maps shade areas with green where trees are even if they are not as dense as we say BT woulds would be . . . and the water would honestly depend on the season, this would be 'wet' and one with less water but featuring mud would be 'dry' season.

I was not aware that Ft Sill had a wet season.   ;)

[Sharpnel]

I was not aware that Ft Sill had a wet season.   ;)

The Great Plains states get plenty of rain. July and August canbe quite wet.

[Daryk]

My wife was stationed there back in the '80s... I'll have to ask her about this...  :thumbsup:

[Precentor Scorpio]

too bad the Kickstarter didn't break $3,000,000.  Maybe the mini for Morgan Kell would have been made out of clear plastic.  Of course they could still go with an empty base to represent his Stealth ability. :)

[ANS Kamas P81]

Of course they could still go with an empty base to represent his Stealth ability. :)

"The empty hex is Morgan Kell in his Archer.  In fact every empty hex is Morgan Kell in his Archer."
"You suck."

[Sartris]

No plastic mold could contain that much fiat. The entire factory would go up

[nckestrel]

The mech will be normal grey plastic.  There will be a clear plastic shield around it? :)

[Daryk]

Colt: my wife confirms everything you said about Four Mile Crossing... she drove the ammunition trucks that used the bridge, and they had standing orders to call the Provost Marshal IMMEDIATELY if they saw fresh track marks on the bridge.  As she put it: "We were driving five-tons loaded with WP and towing a trailer full of detonators...".  The bridge wasn't built for tracks, and NOBODY wanted any of that white phosphorous in the water.

[massey]

The Great Plains states get plenty of rain. July and August can be quite wet.

I live about 90 minutes away.  The summer is miserable.

[Fat Guy]

I hope another scenario drops soon. Diminishing Returns was actually pretty fun, and hammered home the old adage about winning the battle but losing the war.

[Colt Ward]

I was actually wondering where we were at with the fiction.

[Weirdo]

Which update gave us the link for Diminishing Returns? I never saw it.

[Fat Guy]

Wasn't in a Kickstarter update, rather a direct email from Catalyst on Aug 17th.

[Weirdo]

Thanks!

[Cubby]

Wasn't in a Kickstarter update, rather a direct email from Catalyst on Aug 17th.

You know, I was looking for it last night too, and could not find anything. I don't seem to have the e-mail either, but August 17 was, uh, quite the day for my inbox.

I wrote the scenario--with lots of input from Adrian Gideon and Paul, so I'm interested to hear any feedback.

[pheonixstorm]

Which update gave us the link for Diminishing Returns? I never saw it.

You know, I was looking for it last night too, and could not find anything. I don't seem to have the e-mail either, but August 17 was, uh, quite the day for my inbox.

I wrote the scenario--with lots of input from Adrian Gideon and Paul, so I'm interested to hear any feedback.

It was a dropbox link for it and another pdf.

[Robroy]

There are two links in the e-mail from August 17 th. It is one by itself. I missed it till someone mentioned it up thread and went looking for it. Glad I save those e-mails.

[DarkSpade]

Wow, the CAV kickstarter has been begging people to lock in, in some cases, LOG in at all, to their pledge manager and get their orders done.  Got to the point they had to list names of who's missing.  I hope all the battletech backers are a little more on the ball when our pledge manager is released.  ;D

[Fat Guy]

I wrote the scenario--with lots of input from Adrian Gideon and Paul, so I'm interested to hear any feedback.

As I said before, you nailed the winning the battle but losing the war aspect.

Pretty much the loss of a single 'Mech will result in you losing even if you win.

In our game the Vegan Rangers destroyed all four Dieron Regulars 'Mechs (+100 for holding the field). Unfortunately, two of those kills were from ammo explosions, so we could only salvage two (+50 x 2, plus holding the field =200 total).

 The Rangers lost their Wolverine (-200), and it was to the AC ammo exploding so no salvage bonus. The Commando had to withdrawal after losing an arm and a torso (-50 x 2). The Griffin had internal damage in 3 locations (-10 x 3) and criticals to the right shoulder, right lower arm actuator and both left torso jump jets (-10 x 4).

Final totals: Vegan Rangers -170. Deiron Regulars -750.

Since any negative score is a loss, the Rangers won the battle but lost the war.

[Adrian Gideon]

Wow, that is rough, but pretty much exactly the idea.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

An excellent demonstration of the Pyrrhic victory.

[Greatclub]

Wow, the CAV kickstarter has been begging people to lock in, in some cases, LOG in at all, to their pledge manager and get their orders done.  Got to the point they had to list names of who's missing.  I hope all the battletech backers are a little more on the ball when our pledge manager is released.  ;D

There will be some who won't be.

For that matter, there will likely be some who die or have died before then.

[SCC]

Going back to the discussion on maps/fighting terrain, battles are fought over something, be it a city, mine or some weird remote factory. Now unless the objective is deliberately sited for defensive reasons the terrain around it is generally flat for easy access. If the objective is defensively sited the terrain will overwhelming favor the defender. And if it is hard to access, well that makes starting a siege easy.

[Mendrugo]

I wrote the scenario--with lots of input from Adrian Gideon and Paul, so I'm interested to hear any feedback.

I was curious when it was intended to be set, roughly. 

I looked through my source material, and there's no documented case of those two units coming into contact during a major conflict, meaning it was probably during a 3rd Succession War border raid, or something during the lulls between the 4th Succession War and War of 3039 and/or War of 3039 and Clan Invasion.

[KhanPhelanWard]

Nice update, but whay I want to see are new designs and know what lances are going to be in wave 1...

[The_Livewire]

Hmm, I didn't seem to get the mail. :-(